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Next address field adjustments

By Blazej Kazmierczakbkazmierczak. Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:55:59 AM

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With this snapshot we have put a great deal of attention on searching via the address field.

Previously there were some complains that Opera fails on searching parts of URL. From now on it should be much easier to find your favorite pages simply by typing words in address field.

For example, lets say you have important friends on Facebook. Assume you have visited https://www.facebook.com/barackobama previously. You would expect to be able to find it by typing "barack" in the addressbar. Starting from this snapshot you will be able to see proper suggestions in the drop down for the address and title of secure pages.

Handling more than one word provided in the address bar was not handled really well previously, as it resulted in matching only page content. This meant that the URL and title was not taken into account when typing multiple words. This has now been improved upon as well, allowing you to better norrow down your searches.

Try visiting example http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z77-express-virtu-mvp-benchmark,3174.html and than typing "virtu" or "virtu mvp" in addressbar, like so:

In addition, the ordering of items in the drop down has been improved to better promote nicely matching rows when multiple words have been provided.

Providing entries with patterns similar to "5.60 NOK in USD", "foo.bar baz" or "Info.plist" should now execute the default engine searching instead of trying to open the page, rather than resulting in the "Invalid URL" page being displayed. Though we realise that there is still a little bit more work to be done to improve this even further.

Finally the "Show more" button will not be visible now, if there is only one more row to be displayed wink

Note that if you don't like to see Google suggestions in front of other items in the dropdown, you might turn it off in the config (this is not a new thing).

Known Issues
  • DSK-358448 Runtime error 6025 pure virtual function call at startup Opera Next for some users
  • DSK-359770 Out of Process Plugins causing tab related freezes (mostly on startup)
  • HTML5 Drag and Drop is work in progress. Things like dragging to and from external applications may not work. Some existing demo sites may not work fully
  • HTML5test.com could freeze or show other problems on Mac
  • OTW-8246 Opera 64-bit on Windows not supported on Google+ (google plus)
  • DSK-361109 Address dropdown not populated when searching page content with multiple words

WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

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Changelog
  • Improved heuristics in addressbar drop down suggestion
  • Adjusted number and placement of search suggestions in the address field drop down
  • Added some preferences to change default URL search behavior
  • CORE-45071 (Address field drop down does not show matches for page titles or address for https pages or with no-store, no-cache)
  • DSK-357357 (Fix for crash on exit): "This should fix 'Pure Virtual' problems for some users but further work will be needed"
  • DSK-359671 (Searching from address bar doesn't work if first word(s) resembles a domain or a protocol)
  • DSK-354079 (Turbo badge flickers when typing in the address field)
  • DSK-357056 (Do not show search engine keyword in address field when selecting search suggestions)

Hardware Acceleration fixes and the new opera:cpuCamera support

Comments

Frederick Barnettfred8615 Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:22:00 PM

Win 7 64 bit Home Premium SP1

Found this out with the 1359 build, and it's still in 1360. I can't upload to MediaFire. The upload program loads and displays properly, but it won't let me add files. Not even with drag and drop. I had to use IE9 (64 bit) to upload.

Other bug, I can't get the POP e-mail to work still, but did get IMAP to work, though I get an occasional error message with it.

Otherwise this and the last build have been pretty stable for me.

woj-tek Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:38:16 PM

Originally posted by bkazmierczak:

Nope, but we are thinking about redesigning that "feature".
What would you say if we just remove the button and don't provide option to show all the possible matches, resulting in limit to only 10 rows?



I say NO. I want all the results and no arbitrarily selected 'top ten' wich will probably doesnt' match what I'm looking for. I have 24" for a reason - and I want to use it.

nahtanoj999 Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:00:03 PM

Note that if you don't like to see Google suggestions in front of other items in the dropdown, you might turn it off in the config (this is not a new thing).



This doesn't do what I want. Is there a way to get it to the way it used to be, where suggestions from search engines would only appear if their shortcut was typed, as in "g <foo>". Also, I'd like it if normal history entries didn't show when I did that. Is there any way to get this behavior back?

inDigazzZAnuarSh Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:04:33 PM

Originally posted by DjiXas:

Can anyone confirm if the internet connection issues from previous build were fixed?


Nope sad

alexl1984 Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:05:00 PM

R6025!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DAMN AND BLAST!!

In the middle of my session too, nothing to do with startup or shutdown.

There are now LOTS of people complaining bout this error. It started just after the HWA update by that guy who then left the company.

kanstisama Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:06:26 PM

This version is better than previous 2 snapshots. I'm yet to see this famous virtual function error (where on the last 2 snapshots it was a constant event). Either way as it is now it feels slow especially when you launch it for the first time or when you have left some tabs open from previous session. Browsing and scrolling pages takes much CPU, some extensions doesn't work as they should (noads++ shows menu, but it's unclickable). Adress field adjustments are pretty neat and work for me.

Ok after about hour of playing with Opera I got 6025 when I closed it, but it showed just for a second. Still it's better than previous snapshot.

Opera x32 - Win7x64

highstream Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:06:50 PM

This x64 build still "freezes" while reloading Speed Dial and while navigating pages, such as this one. Thumbnails now respond before the reloading has 100% completed, or so it sems, but with anywhere from a one second to a minute or more delay. One part of that seems to be that SD isn't caching thumbnail images like 1328/earlier builds or like 11.62, but has to rewrite some when coming back to the SD page. Throughout the freeze the thumbnail chosen remains highlighted. Between the starts and stops, it took me about 10-15 seconds to scroll from the top of page 1 of these comments to the bottom login link. During all this, Opera shows as using 20-25% CPU in Task Mgr. On initial look, this build is still unusuable or close to being so here. Win 7/64

P.S. Had to close 1360 to write the post in 1328 because of CPU usage. But even with 1328, i.e., x32, Opera sometimes wnet (goes) into 20-25% CPU usage and becomes very jerky for several minutes for no obvious reason (e.g., right now, after closing 1360). The only way to stop it for sure is to close and use 11.62.

Muneer Hassan Abdullamha2999 Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:09:04 PM

bigsmile

King Crimson Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:27:17 PM

Originally posted by nahtanoj999:

Note that if you don't like to see Google suggestions in front of other items in the dropdown, you might turn it off in the config (this is not a new thing).



This doesn't do what I want. Is there a way to get it to the way it used to be, where suggestions from search engines would only appear if their shortcut was typed, as in "g <foo>". Also, I'd like it if normal history entries didn't show when I did that. Is there any way to get this behavior back?

+1

Fluxid Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:27:27 PM

Originally posted by bkazmierczak:

Originally posted by minho:

Is there any way to disable the "Show more" in the address field?
I want address field suggestions use ALL my screen.



Nope, but we are thinking about redesigning that "feature".
What would you say if we just remove the button and don't provide option to show all the possible matches, resulting in limit to only 10 rows?

Uh, this is a joke, right? You mean, if something doesn't get to the first 10 results, I'd need to use separate history search and/or bookmark/history panels? I guess I could just try to type more text to find what I'm looking for, but what I always liked, and I think I'm not the only one, is that I can always "do more/other way", instead of "no you can't" like in other browsers.

led9 Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:42:17 PM

Search in the address bar does not understand the dot!

I want to go to the site "ural.onno.ru"

I typing in the address bar "ural" - opera offers 4 different addresses - without the dots!

I typing "ural." - Opera removes all variants of the addresses and does not offer anything!

I continue to type the address - until you enter the full address of the opera does not offer any variants of the addresses.

but the version of Opera 12 1090 understand the dot and search in adress bar right!

janaco Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:44:12 PM

I don't know if this is related to the new drag/drop, but the Drag-Distance configured in the OS (WinXP) is not respected. If I drag ANYTHING within Opera then even a distance of 1px starts the Dragging, resulting in
a) creating a "default"-Entry in the Transfer-Window
b) dragging and not selecting a Tab in a Tab-Thumbnail-Group
etc.

(XPSP3)

rseiler Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:47:24 PM

The dream of 2008 is alive in Opera:
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=244641

CJLP Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:00:15 PM

Disable all plugins and restart Opera. The next time Opera freezes up on you, you can kill it in Task Manager and when you restart it won't be frozen. (This is in XP 32-bit.)

Dave WillisDavWil Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:04:00 PM

Couple of observed problems with most releases of 12:
1)I have a folder of 10 bookmarks - blogs I follow - so I "Open all folder items" as a matter of routine. This process works fine in 10 and 11. In 12 -
1) very slow
2) doesn't seem to go to completion - the "loading icon" keeps on revolving in the tab, even though the page seems to be completely loaded

2) Netflix problems:
1) At film start, opens small window, upper left of the screen - using reload fixes it
2) Occasional freezes during showing of the film

Win7x64
Hardware acceleration enabled
Realtek video

Toxigene Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:07:36 PM

Originally posted by Fluxid:

Uh, this is a joke, right? You mean, if something doesn't get to the first 10 results, I'd need to use separate history search and/or bookmark/history panels? I guess I could just try to type more text to find what I'm looking for, but what I always liked, and I think I'm not the only one, is that I can always "do more/other way", instead of "no you can't" like in other browsers.



You only feel that way because Opera so far has been really, really horrible with addressbar searches. If it was remotely as good as FF in searching for stuffs (and Ff searches in full address and title, not even content) you would not need more than 10 results for finding stuffs. Previously I had to enable content search in Opera to even have a remotely feasible chance to find anything; and even then it was bad and unreliable because it would only search by whole words and not strings, not to mention searching content is really slow if you have a large cache.

Really so far the most effective kind of addressbar search, IMHO, is what you get in FF with FastestFox extension, which gives suggestions (below the history search) with page titles and direct links to pages (http://i.imgur.com/lPF5B.jpg), instead of the fail way Opera does it which is going to search and makes addressbar suggestions almost absolutely useless. I hope Opera implements something like that in the future.

minho Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:10:55 PM

This build has many NSL bugs when I load several pages at the same time.
win 7 x64, x64 build

OlegYch Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:17:49 PM

oh, sorry for the noise
i disabled CSS PrefixR extension and now uefa.com, vaadin.com (and i guess other sites) and wand are working properly

OlegYch Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:24:28 PM

Originally posted by Toxigene:

Really so far the most effective kind of addressbar search, IMHO, is what you get in FF with FastestFox extension, which gives suggestions (below the history search) with page titles and direct links to pages (http://i.imgur.com/lPF5B.jpg), instead of the fail way Opera does it which is going to search and makes addressbar suggestions almost absolutely useless. I hope Opera implements something like that in the future.


Are you talking about the two row display in firefox? because this looks like the only distinction from what Opera does currently (compared to your picture)
if so, then i second your opinion (like many others do http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1188962 )

polosatus Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:29:26 PM

Since you're putting so much attention to address field, maybe you would fix that annoying bug when as plugins load at startup they steal focus from addressbar and reset it?

Please?

nimu_channimuchan Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:36:47 PM

Thank you very much!!smile

EricJH Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:40:49 PM

Originally posted by bkazmierczak:

Nope, but we are thinking about redesigning that "feature".
What would you say if we just remove the button and don't provide option to show all the possible matches, resulting in limit to only 10 rows?

I am by no means fanatical about how exactly this should work but my answer is a clearcut NO.It's good to have choice.

Added some preferences to change default URL search behavior

Where are they?

Originally posted by OlegYch:

huh
i just lost a comment because of "Bad request"
seriously, can you fix commenting and 'remember me' on this page?
it been bugging me for over a year

Consider to set Opera to Fast History Navigation (go back to pages as they are stored in memory (no reload of pages)); History Navigation Mode = 3 in opera:config.

Chocimierchocimir Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:43:20 PM

Originally posted by bkazmierczak:

Finally the "Show more" button will not be visible now, if there is only one more row to be displayed wink

cheers

Originally posted by bkazmierczak:

What would you say if we just remove the button and don't provide option to show all the possible matches, resulting in limit to only 10 rows?

Please, don't do it!

coww Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:57:12 PM

1)play a video from youtube
2)click Bookmarks
3)wait a bit
4)Stop YouTube Videos from Automatically Playing in Opera

Version
12.00 alpha
Build
1360
Platform
x64

Marcodsp418 Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:01:55 PM

Is the CSS overlay issue finally fixed?

Rustamrupunk Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:04:41 PM

Fix work with computeruniverse.net!!! for example https://www.computeruniverse.net/groups/e30000814/cell-phones.asp (right side doesn't work).

Rustamrupunk Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:10:16 PM

i mean "Attribute Search"

OlegYch Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:19:02 PM

Originally posted by EricJH:

Consider to set Opera to Fast History Navigation (go back to pages as they are stored in memory (no reload of pages)); History Navigation Mode = 3 in opera:config.



interesting, thanks for the pointer
actually this is how it was working for me in previous builds, dunno if it's something with this build or something else reset this setting
i've changed it from 1 to 3, let's see how it goes
but that annoying thing with "Bad Request" on this forum should be fixed!

OlegYch Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:22:41 PM

Originally posted by rupunk:

Fix work with computeruniverse.net!!! for example https://www.computeruniverse.net/groups/e30000814/cell-phones.asp (right side doesn't work).


works for me (i'm able to perform search using that menu), check if some of your extensions broke it

SasaRI Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:27:24 PM

Originally posted by hpearce:

Originally posted by SasaRI:

Can somebody test if M2 (fetching mails) is working and report back?




Crashes opera on my 64 bit .... 32bit seems to work ok ... on the last 3 builds.

Thanks! Saved me from another unusable snapshot.

ricksper Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:35:01 PM

Some images in M2(??those that are embedded??) do not open automatically. It requires opening manually by clicking on the attachment

Win XP SP3

igorigor2209 Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:41:06 PM

Originally posted by King Crimson:

Originally posted by nahtanoj999:

Note that if you don't like to see Google suggestions in front of other items in the dropdown, you might turn it off in the config (this is not a new thing).



This doesn't do what I want. Is there a way to get it to the way it used to be, where suggestions from search engines would only appear if their shortcut was typed, as in "g <foo>". Also, I'd like it if normal history entries didn't show when I did that. Is there any way to get this behavior back?

+1 .

Blazej Kazmierczakbkazmierczak Wednesday, April 11, 2012 7:11:00 PM

Originally posted by OlegYch:

Originally posted by Toxigene:

Really so far the most effective kind of addressbar search, IMHO, is what you get in FF with FastestFox extension, which gives suggestions (below the history search) with page titles and direct links to pages (http://i.imgur.com/lPF5B.jpg" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/lPF5B.jpg), instead of the fail way Opera does it which is going to search and makes addressbar suggestions almost absolutely useless. I hope Opera implements something like that in the future.


Are you talking about the two row display in firefox? because this looks like the only distinction from what Opera does currently (compared to your picture)
if so, then i second your opinion (like many others do http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1188962 )

I'm also interested in that answer.

Blazej Kazmierczakbkazmierczak Wednesday, April 11, 2012 7:12:45 PM

Originally posted by polosatus:

Since you're putting so much attention to address field, maybe you would fix that annoying bug when as plugins load at startup they steal focus from addressbar and reset it?

Please?

I thought that was already fixed. I will dig that.

Blazej Kazmierczakbkazmierczak Wednesday, April 11, 2012 7:13:33 PM

Originally posted by led9:

Search in the address bar does not understand the dot!I want to go to the site "ural.onno.ru"



I will check this.

dizdizlexik Wednesday, April 11, 2012 7:49:50 PM

Scrolling is a bit broken with flash plugin. The flash elements break *when* I scroll.

Win 7 x64

Newest Opera Next 64 bits, newest flash plugin, usb installation.

Hardware acceleration status
Hardware acceleration
Enabled
Graphics backend
OpenGL
OpenGL
Blocklist status
Blocklist version
1.0.5
Blocklist status for 2D
Supported
Blocklist status for 3D
Supported
Graphics hardware and driver details
GL_VENDOR
ATI Technologies Inc.
GL_RENDERER
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series
GL_VERSION
3.3.10317 Compatibility Profile Context

edit:

I forgot to write when.

setsutekh Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:49:13 PM

Why are all the new opera:config options you implemented (related to the address field) not restartless?

krychu90 Wednesday, April 11, 2012 9:03:11 PM

Originally posted by bkazmierczak:

Originally posted by OlegYch:

Originally posted by Toxigene:

Really so far the most effective kind of addressbar search, IMHO, is what you get in FF with FastestFox extension, which gives suggestions (below the history search) with page titles and direct links to pages (http://i.imgur.com/lPF5B.jpg" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/lPF5B.jpg" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/lPF5B.jpg" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/lPF5B.jpg), instead of the fail way Opera does it which is going to search and makes addressbar suggestions almost absolutely useless. I hope Opera implements something like that in the future.

Are you talking about the two row display in firefox? because this looks like the only distinction from what Opera does currently (compared to your picture) if so, then i second your opinion (like many others do http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1188962" target="_blank">http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1188962 )

I'm also interested in that answer.



IMO:

Opera:
- no favicons (on default)
- search results before history
- no dropdown button (on default)
- one row instead of two per result (title-description, url)

This is why Opera address field is worse. Better was in Opera 9-10

SuilAmhain Wednesday, April 11, 2012 9:03:20 PM

Definitely having intermittent issues with urlfilter Content blocking. It's not repeatable as far as I can see. It will be fine for a few sites than wammo it stops working again.

If I disable Application Cache. It's still getting used.

New Google+ layout is slow and sometimes just doesn't work.
Could not do a video chat in gmail. Opera locked and hung. It's been a while since I tried too but annoying when I need to that it does not work.

32 Bit Opera
64 Bit Win 7
GL_RENDERER
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650
GL_VERSION
3.3.10524 Compatibility Profile Context
Driver version: 8.821.0.0

TomisTomis451 Wednesday, April 11, 2012 9:22:34 PM

This is a really difficult to reproduce bug, but when I have a large number of tabs open and my laptop crashes (runs out of power suddenly, in my case) I often lose my session (which probably becomes corrupted, maybe because of disk fragmentation and frequent writing, I don't know) and in one occasion I lost the whole history as well.

This happened in both 11.61 and recent 12.00 build. Please have a look at the IO routines and make sure everything is ok in the event of system crashes. You could have a look at the "eat my data" talk, it might help ( link here - flamingspork.com/talks/2007/06/eat_my_data.odp ).

Thank you, and keep up the good work.

siamak5561 Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:00:07 PM

Hi guys, can u make an option to we can use AdressBar on FullScreen? yes
sorry for bad english worried

Snow of Marchsnowofmarch Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:10:58 PM

Caused by unknown action;
All dropdown (including address field) cannot open, and all text field cannot input.
Reloading has no effects.
I can use these fields once I restart Opera.

Win7 32bit.

PengePenge4 Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:31:46 PM

Originally posted by siamak5561:

Hi guys, can u make an option to we can use AdressBar on FullScreen?


http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog/full-screen-mode-with-toolbars-in-opera

Mag Malguumagu2k Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:35:21 PM

I am also finding in this x64 build and previous x64 build that cPanel code editor is verrrry slow and seems to give a false positive crash quite often.
Also finding this build chokes up when starting it, the window comes up pages start loading then it just stops for 10-15 sec before I can use anything.

ricksper Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:54:34 PM

After typing and posting in the Opera forums, the text area does not refresh with a cleared text area. Easy to double post until you realize that something's wrong.

[Edit] In this case it became a "feature" because when I tried to post this, I got the Bad Request screen. But my original post was still there when I hit the Back button.

Erik HauboldAltarius Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:08:35 AM

Originally posted by SasaRI:

Originally posted by hpearce:

Originally posted by SasaRI:

Can somebody test if M2 (fetching mails) is working and report back?




Crashes opera on my 64 bit .... 32bit seems to work ok ... on the last 3 builds.



Thanks! Saved me from another unusable snapshot.

working here with 64bit win7 and 64bit linux, using lots of imap accounts

highstream Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:01:18 AM

Update to "freeze" report: Turning off hardware acceleration allows the Speed Dial to work normally. However, none of the SD sites load. Just a blank page and the loading circle in the tab running on and on. In fact, my home page, Yahoo.com, shows as it should but hasn't finished loading either and it's been over two minutes now.

Also now and before disabling HWA, I'm getting the R6045(?) Runtime error (two boxes) on forced closing (only kind of done).

Have to head back to 11.62, something I haven't done in quite awhile.

Update: Spoke too soon. Came back later with HWA off and SD locks up Opera. Thumbnails don't seem to cache between sessions and everytime I return to the SD within a session Opera freezes. Look forward to developers getting this problem worked out.

xecoli Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:49:44 AM

Same problem with last build, it basically FREEZES in gmail.com, with either HWA on or off. However, from task manager, the CPU loading is low (<10%), but Opera goes to Not Responding.

I tried a clean install and this problem persists.

but other sites seems OK.

Platform Win32
System Windows XP

Toxigene Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:11:51 AM

Originally posted by OlegYch:

Are you talking about the two row display in firefox? because this looks like the only distinction from what Opera does currently (compared to your picture)if so, then i second your opinion (like many others do http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1188962 )


Not just that. The search suggestion LINKS to websites and their titles appear on the dropdown list, so you can easily find relevant sites and click on any of those items and go directly to the website. In Opera you just get keyword suggestions and have to search first then find the relevant website from there, which is not very useful and I think one of the reasons people do not appreciate the feature in Opera and keep asking how to disable it.

Moreover, in my example, you can see the suggested sites appear below your history search, so they do not get in the way. In Opera the keyword suggestions appear above history items, which is an impediment in regular browsing. Also, the search algorithm for FF seems to be much better as it'll prioritize the websites you visit often when searching strings and tends to be much more relevant. Maybe the fastness and accuracy of FF comes from storing the history in SQLite databases, I donno. Opera has a long way to go in this aspect.

Tiago Wakabayashiozoratsubasa Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:27:20 AM

Originally posted by mr0nline:

Please make bookmarks appear above history results, there is a dedicated search field anyway.



all the bookmarked should appear first. For example, I type "my." looking for "myopera links". I see to appear sometimes one or two firstly and more some histories, when I click on "more" it's when I see I have more bookmarks that weren't shown before.

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