"DSK-341531 Hovering the close button on Speed Dial steals its hover state, while it should propagate it."

Same thing happens with the tab bar(close button on each tab is stealing the tabs hover state).

Thanks for the new build!

My graphic card seems to be running fine acording to opera:gpu (ati hd4250 with directx10 on windows 7, build x64). About the performance improvements, I see a big regression. It's actually slower in every instance with gpu acceleration turned on. Website scrollign, speeddial zooming is slower. I like that directwrite is finnaly working! Another thing that make my eyes bleed: it seems that the whole rendering is locked to 50Hz ? I kind of see some kind of flickering like when you used 60Hz on a CRT monitor. Is this normal or I'm seeing things?

Keep up the good work!

Getting a "Server Connection Error" trying to login to iCloud with this build.
(OSX Lion)

I think this is recurrent since some versions ago. windows xp 32 bit, updated. latest nvidia fx 5500 drivers.

Originally posted by ayespy:

After what is admittedly a very brief testing period, I see no obvious problems.

Spoke a little too soon, unfortunately.

A page with some sort of embedded flash video or similar froze the browser right up. Had to force-kill it with task manager.

This, fortunately, created a crash log I was able to send in.

Originally posted by Meddio:

Not only the input fields on the pages become unclickable but also Opera address-field and search-field are inaccessible. Moreover Opera stops processing keystrokes. I wasn't able to check if it processes the standard keys (because all the intput fields were inaccessible), but it surely ignores F-keys (like F5) and different key combinations.

On the prior build, I experienced this while trying to compose an email. Re-starting the browser fixed it. I still don't know what caused it. Haven't seen it in this build YET.

Originally posted by minho:

Nice mail changes!

I cant start Opera on win 7 x64 when the HWA is enabled, it crashes all the time.
Video card: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10)
opera:gpu says...
http://files.myopera.com/minho/albums/3631672/hwa.png

same here. it's crashing for me especially when I switch tabs.

Originally posted by rekkoo:

Originally posted by Altarius:

well...this is a pre alpha (or maybe alpha already). in this state it's normal to include new features. when they're all in, bugfixing and polishing starts. (and the beta comes around...)

Yep, maybe you're right. But based on my experience, as happens before with Opera, many bugs will remain unfixed, RC starts and, no matter if people will report bugs or not, final version will be released with lot of "hurra!" comments posted by worshipers. I am regular user, not worshiper, so I am not some kind of maniac who believe in everything. You should not add new ornaments to your car if engine is still broken.

i'm not saying they shouldn't fix bugs. but there has to be a time to get new innovations in a longer test period would be very nice

no autoupdate

http://pc.qq.com/
in this page,download any program not succeed.I find in download url “.qq.com” is overage.
i don't know what yao can get!

Page scrolling is choppy at almost all sites
Widows 7-64 SP1 Ultimate

Originally posted by highstream:

Originally posted by frankdd89:

I will not stop asking this, because I really care about this argument, try to make the UI more captivating, especially for Windows and Linux users, many users care more on the UI then the brute browser speed. Thank you.

And then there are those of us who find simpler better and depend on the skin for our action. It's like the MS Office ribbon vs. the earlier more linear menu style, which a whole lot of people, me included, prefer for its simple functionality over the later artistry focus. To each their own...

Off-topic, but not to mention the fact that it now takes literally twice as many actions to do most of the tasks I regularly perform in Office... with more visual clutter, less useable UI space, etc. etc. (and that's still leaving out the fact that 2007 UI is simply BROKEN in many cases (I can not use cursor keys in many dialogues for graphs etc. since it will move the cell selection instead of the dialogue cursor) and performs *much* slower than 2003 - for a certain complex Excel database it now takes TEN TIMES longer to process!)

Sorry - I have a bit of a chip on my shoulder about this following an "upgrade" of my work machine last year...

Moving map on http://maps.google.pl/ moves tile's image (show in another tab) instead of moving the map.

Opera link synchronization - still nightmare, tiles are moving from one place to another, Speed Dial configuration is not synchronized so I have to adop all the time the sizings and zoom level manually.

I'm sorry, but I found it mildly amusing that things managed to get even worse in this build. Now, Youtube videos don't even appear. I tested both without and then with HWA enabled (restarting the browser in between), and in both cases, there was just a black box where a video would normally appear. What's more, I then scrolled up and down a few times on the page to test the scrolling performance only to have Opera crash, bringing up the crash dialog. I filled in the report, then double clicked the page address in the crash dialog hoping to copy it, only to have the crash dialog crash.

This was all within five minutes of installing a fresh portable install with default settings in Windows XP. And of course, clicking links is still broken, as they continue to open in background tabs half the time. I was hoping when you mentioned getting ready for a beta release that these things would at least be improved to some degree. As it is, I'm still sticking with the 1328 release, which works almost entirely fine for me with HWA enabled. The build that added out-of-process plugins and drag-and-drop functionality totally broke the browser, and I haven't noticed any improvement to stability or usability in the several builds since. Sure, these are alpha builds adding new features, but when they can't even support basic browsing, adequately testing for less-obvious bugs is also out of the question.

On the topic of disabling Hardware Acceleration by default to avoid potential performance issues on certain systems, might it not be a better idea to build a simple performance test to be run during installation for those systems with non-blacklisted video cards? Have opera's rendering engine invisibly render some elements both ways, time the results, and default to the better performing option. It could be mostly invisible to the end-user, with perhaps a simple line of text indicating which method will be enabled, and possibly the option to override the recommended setting. That is, if the hardware renderer is just about as stable as the software renderer, of course.

Reported DSK-361982: Freeze/no-repaint of Opera window problem when entering Google Docs (restart of Opera needed)

Steps to reproduce:
1. Send yourself an e-mail on Gmail e-mail account with attached pdf or ppt (probably any Google Docs file - also .doc, .xls) file.
2. Open the e-mail in your Gmail inbox anc click View near the attachement.

What happens:
Google Docs start loading but it doesn't finish. The whole Opera window with all other tabs stops repainting. Opera is still responsive but switching to other tabs in the same window does not display them, only title in the title bar changes. It is possible to open a new window and normally work in it as well as in other previously opened windows. But the one with Google Docs will not repaint until restart of Opera.

It happens on Knoppix 6.2.1. Does it happen on your systems also?

Originally posted by bkazmierczak:

Are you using some custom skin?

Ah, yes. I'm using Z1-Ultra 1.21. Switching to Opera skin fixes the issue on Speed Dial, but still can't drag the Address bar from the Customize menu (Buttons > ...)

More info: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1372182

WTF is happening with "Quote" codes? Damn.

Originally posted by irdose7:

Page scrolling is choppy at almost all sites
Widows 7-64 SP1 Ultimate

It's finally working fine for me. What GPU are you using? Do you have HW turned off/on?

Originally posted by Meddio:

Not only the input fields on the pages become unclickable but also Opera address-field and search-field are inaccessible.

Confirm. Sometimes even focused fields (with blinking cursor) do not receive key presses.

These OOP builds are unusable for me. They bork video players half way through streaming (32-bit, XP).

Originally posted by Nasty:

Reported DSK-361982: Freeze/no-repaint of Opera window problem when entering Google Docs (restart of Opera needed)

Steps to reproduce:
1. Send yourself an e-mail on Gmail e-mail account with attached pdf or ppt (probably any Google Docs file - also .doc, .xls) file.
2. Open the e-mail in your Gmail inbox anc click View near the attachement.

What happens:
Google Docs start loading but it doesn't finish. The whole Opera window with all other tabs stops repainting. Opera is still responsive but switching to other tabs in the same window does not display them, only title in the title bar changes. It is possible to open a new window and normally work in it as well as in other previously opened windows. But the one with Google Docs will not repaint until restart of Opera.

It happens on Knoppix 6.2.1. Does it happen on your systems also?

This happened in Ubuntu as well.

Getting a server certificate/hostname mismatch on Salon with this build.
(OSX Lion)

Originally posted by Quadunit404:

For those of you complaining about the font rendering with DirectX - open up the Control Panel, go to Display, click on "Adjust ClearType Text" and disable it.

Disabling ClearType is the cause of the blurry mess I get in Opera 12, IE 9+ and Firefox 4+. I disabled ClearType long ago because I got sick of the blurry rainbow pixels (blue and red shadows on all letters) it produces.

I created a forum post about blurry fonts with Direct3D on and ClearType disabled: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1369942

Originally posted by Thiemo:

Disabling ClearType is the cause of the blurry mess I get in Opera 12, IE 9+ and Firefox 4+. I disabled ClearType long ago because I got sick of the blurry rainbow pixels (blue and red shadows on all letters) it produces.I created a forum post about blurry fonts with Direct3D on and ClearType disabled: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1369942

Yeah, I realized that after I disabled it.

Vista 64, Opera 1380

Lot more stable very nice preview build excited for final.

I'll be posting in the correct build page also, but HW acceleration isn't working on the newest build (and yes, I restarted)
Version
12.00 alpha
Build
1385
Platform
Linux
System
x86_64, 3.2.0-1-amd64

Enable WebGL 1
Enable Hardware Acceleration 1
Hardware acceleration Disabled

Originally posted by Quadunit404:

For those of you complaining about the font rendering with DirectX - open up the Control Panel, go to Display, click on "Adjust ClearType Text" and disable it.

Really, it's not a bug with Opera, and it's quite easy to fix. In fact, I've just said the fix right here, right now.

Also, changing your ClearType settings works too and doesn't have the unintended consequence of making fonts everywhere blurry.

You're mistaking ClearType with DirectWrite. Those are two separate font rendering techniques, really. ClearType is what you see in Windows in general, DirectWrite is what you see in HW accelerated browsers when using DirectX. You can't adjust DirectWrite font rendering by adjusting ClearType. You can probably completely disable DirectWrite font antialiasing by disabling ClearType, but that's more likely because it will simply tell the OS to not antialias fonts at all (which looks horrible if you care about glyph shapes at all). But yeah, ClearType isn't much better for quality font rendering than DirectWrite (that's why I'm using GDIpp, myself). But still it's better than the terrible DirectWrite. I really don't know what was Microsoft thinking (now there's an oxymoron for you...)

Go opera team go good work

Nice job well done.

Opera 12 is an ultimate upgrade from the other versions. The Dev. team added loads of features. But im still having Adobe flash freezing. But anyhow, great work!

great!

Opera 12b. still lacks displaying 2 out of 7 HTML capabilities according to peacekeeper......

HTML5 Capabilities
5/7
webglSphere
N/A
videoPosterSupport
Yes
videoCodecH264
N/A
videoCodecTheora
Yes
videoCodecWebM
Yes
workerContrast01
Yes (7048.83 ops)
workerContrast02
Yes (6634.19 ops)
gamingSpitfire
Yes (51.37 fps)

Hello, thanks for the excellent browser of the new version ending! But unfortunately in it the problem concerning CSS3, here my site http://pixelstyle.ru/photo/ was noticed when we on 1 click of a castor of a mouse waste page in a bottom and we direct at any work, above in a cap from animation on CSS3 different artifacts start to appear, on the previous assembly 11.64 such problems aren't observed...

P.S. In a social network www.VK.com when viewing photos and when prompting on a heart similar artifacts are observed...

It would be nice a list with graphic cards models working fine with this hardware acceleration.

I'm going to buy a graphic card, is it better Nvidia or Ati?. Is it good a Nvidia GT520?. I'm using Arch-linux OS.

My hardware is: PC on AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core (ACPI\AUTHENTICAMD_-_AMD64_FAMILY_15_MODEL_107), Graphic Card is NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT, PhysX is enable (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0421&SUBSYS_23001682&REV_A1\4&243D7BD0&0&0070
); Operation System is XP64. In new Opera x32 after config#UserPrefs|EnableHardwareAcceleration and opera:config#UserPrefs EnableWebGL (Turn Value is 1) - after icon images for pages starting BUGS - all screen in random poligons!

For Opera Next 64 bit - for first page - after icon images for pages starting BUGS - all screen in random poligons!

For Opera Next 32 bit - from sevral minits after many elements (vk.com - many small pictures + JQuery) starting BUGS - all screen in random poligons!

Microsoft Direct is 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

My hardware is: PC on AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core (ACPI\AUTHENTICAMD_-_AMD64_FAMILY_15_MODEL_107), Graphic Card is NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT, PhysX is enable (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0421&SUBSYS_23001682&REV_A1\4&243D7BD0&0&0070
); Operation System is XP64. In new Opera x32 after config#UserPrefs|EnableHardwareAcceleration and opera:config#UserPrefs EnableWebGL (Turn Value is 1) - after icon images for pages starting BUGS - all screen in random poligons!

For Opera Next 64 bit - for first page - after icon images for pages starting BUGS - all screen in random poligons!

For Opera Next 32 bit - from sevral minits after many elements (vk.com - many small pictures + JQuery) starting BUGS - all screen in random poligons!

Microsoft Direct is 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

In Opera 12 enabling hardware acceleration and WebGL messed up Opera in Windows 7 Ultimate using Club 3D HD 5750 Noiseless Edition graphics card. I can't use Opera 12 anymore, because there is no address bar, menus or buttons. Screenshot: http://bit.ly/Lu3u92

OK guys that's SO great (not).

Now you've done the same as Mozilla has done with the step to Firefox 3.6 with it's oh so fantastic "hardware aceleration" (that has completely ruined the possibility to run Firefox on weak hardware e.g. Netbooks, once and for all).

Now with Opera 12, it is exactly the same. I can't believe that in order to introduce this supposedly new hardware "acceleration", Opera 12 now scrolls TERRIBLY bad and jerky on all my netbooks, no matter if the new hardware "acceleration" is switched on or off.

This is what I call hardware DE-celeration, not acceleration!

Sorry guys but this is useless! It completely ruins Opera as the former #1 choice for netbooks and other not-so-fast hardware.

I really don't get it why "progress" at a certain stage always seems to kill its own previous achievements -- now even with the (once amazing) Opera Browser.

:-(

can't you just turn it off?

The 12th is so slow on a newly installed Win7 both with and w/o HW acceleration and extentions

Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; U; ru) Presto/2.10.289 Version/12.00
Windows 7
Intel i7 920, Radeon HD4870

w7 x64 + DirectX 11 with Opera 12.00 x86:

With youtube video playing, changing the video size or clicking the forward/backward video bar leads to a blank video screen for at least few seconds and Opera not responding for a while. Many other web pages with flash video exhibit same behavious. HWA on/off does not matter hence I suspect windows 32 bit thunking delay so I tried x64.

However, this problem is eradicated when I use Opera 12.00 x64 build 1467.

Even then all is not well with Opera 12.00. There is an obvious lag with plug-in. Best example is the yahoo interactive stock chart. Not only fonts are invisible, the chart cursor and sub-menus lack visibily behind the mouse. This does not happen at all with 11.6x.

Machine: Samsung XE700T with i5-2467
OS: Windows 7 Professional SP1 x64
GPU: Intel HD3000

Originally posted by ahoj1234:

stability heh..,but yes,keep it going.. but Opera still crash on start-up (at 90% and 10% is after a few minutes) when I have set up email acc on M2 with x64 build on x64 machine.. If I use Opera without mails it works good (some problem with lagy scrolling.. and other problems are permanently here,so..)
mail problem reported as DSK-361671,still here
scrolling problem reported as DSK-361672,still here so " and should speed up scrolling with plugins significantly." is not true for me or the problem is not with plugins on the web.. edit: yes,some speed increase is probably here,but it is still not as good as I want..

But I have to say.. HWA and WebGL is set on 1 for now (not on 2) and scrolling is smoother but Opera is still not good in scrolling as for example chrome is..
W7 x64;this build x64;GTS 250,Driver version - 8.17.13.124;Graphics backend - Direct3D 10.1 (Level 10.0);HWA,WebGL set on 1 (sometimes on 2 but as you said Opera is not ready now for HWA anywhere and anytime - set on 2)

I've been test driving it for a while this morning on OSX, so far no crashes or bad scrolling. Actually quite impressive, at least on MAC.

robertoffrance
I get message "Error initializing Opera : module 15 (logdoc) when I try to open Opera and the same message when in desperation I try to uninstall it. How do I get rid of this message ??

charliebob25@gmail.com