Hi there.

Great work so far
Just one thing: Programmed mouse buttons (Logitech SetPoint software) still revert back to standard behavior

Greetings

IT

Originally posted by xeon0541:

too many bug on oopp such as
1) can't play mytv (http://mytv.tvb.com/live/hdj#page-1)
2) can't pdf file (http://people.opera.com/howcome/2005/ala/sample.pdf)
3) can't play embedded youtube on web page (http://www.hkepc.com/7732)

please fix them before final version

1) Dunno about first

2) Pdf's work just fine. Just make sure you have the latest Reader (10.1.3) and that BOTH Adobe Reader plug-ins are enabled in opera:plugins

3) YT works just fine here with Flash 11.3 x64 (the x86 is disabled through opera:plugins, although the Opera_Plugin_Wrapper is still in 32 bits, weird)

running fedora 64-bit on fedora 17 (beta) rpm, and there seems to be an issue with the fonts specially in facebook. here's a screenshot - http://files.myopera.com/afsilva/blog/0opera.png

When I enable WebGL and Hardware Ac. Opera 12 so slow ; page load is slow.

Originally posted by sebagun:

....

http://i.imgur.com/aVtxa.png
When you check for updates, when the process finishes without finding new updates, the accept button doesn't close the dialog (doesn't do anything).

Using 12.00 beta build 1387 on Windows XP.

Best regards

confirmed on win 7 x64 for opera x32 and x64
for close dialog i can only click on "X" in the upper right dialog window

Originally posted by PatrynXX:

Have some java issue's or script issue's on http://natalieportman.com/npcom.asp?page_number=176&parentId=57319 when clicking on a pick and it expands , flashes sometimes if the mouse is over it.

Unconfirmed here.

Originally posted by kamalesh:

I'm getting a UI freeze-up when watching http://www.youtube.com/html5">YouTube videos in HTML5 WebM in full-screen, after they end. When hovering mouse over thumbnail choices for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0zgj2p7Ww4&feature=player_embedded">videos in full-screen, Opera freezes.

Happening about 75% of the time. (Note that just WebM video is full-screen, not Opera window using the OSX Lion full-screen feature.)

Confirmed here.

Originally posted by ayespy:

Win7 X86, HWA off.

It's impossible to predict when it will do it, but a microscopic/undetectable motion while left-clicking a link will sometimes do one of two things:

It will display the right-click context menu for links or, it will highlight anywhere from one letter of the relevant link, to half a page of all similar links at the same time.

I can reproduce that behavior here.

Originally posted by kamalesh:

Flash videos http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/12322">not initializing at CR.
(OSX Lion)

Not confirmed here.

Originally posted by Nasty:

BUG: On https://www.r-bank.pl/newsbi/index.jsp?lang=en]Raiffeisen Bank Poland login page, characters inputed in Username and Password fields are entered two at one keypress. Knoppix 6.2.1 and Shockwave Flash Plugin 10.3 r183.

Do you confirm or is it a bug in my version of Flash Plugin?

Try updating Flash Player first. I'm on the latest version and that does not occur here.

- Windows 7 SP1 64-bit;
- Opera Next 12.00 build 1387 x64;
- HWA disabled, WebGL and WebSockets enabled;
- no extensions installed.

Originally posted by movax:

Not in this century.

I'm not sure if that was ironic or not but Opera is really adding the -webkit prefix to Core.

Originally posted by mubaidr:

But why it is present in syswow64 folder? and 64bit plugin file is present under system32? Must be something wrong with Adobe installation or it is purposefull?

It has to do with how 64-bit versions of Windows work. WOW64 (Windows-on-Windows 64) is the subsystem on these versions that allows them to run 32-bit software. The system files contained in %SystemRoot%\SysWOW64 are for use with 32-bit software. ;-)

Originally posted by umzillo:

Opera degrades. Waiting for a version w/o mail / bittorent / unity. Just a browser.

What you just said is a lie. First, Voice was removed because IBM stopped maintaining it, since the mechanism Opera used for that technology was co-developed with them. Second, Widgets and Unite were deprecated already to focus on a single add-on platform, though it brings some negative consequences, at least in short term. Third of all, if you're not using other features in Opera, then they're not interfering because they're not active in the first place. And Opera is an Internet suite and has always been. Stop trolling.

Originally posted by Galnospoke:

Beta?! This is some kind of Opera funeral?

Stop trolling.

RSS icon on address bar can be clicked but is not visible on mac except if opera standard skin is used. In native skin mode or theme skin mode the RSS icon is gone.

I think there is also memory leak. The memory often climbs up and uses the whole of my computer's memory.

You had to fuck up the address-bar size again didn't you? Yes you just had to fuck it up again after fixing it before..

"Top-line" is 1px bigger than the "lower-line"...

Windows 7 x64 Pro..

Regression over 11.63

Address field in "Go To Page" window is broken
1 - Text is overlapping the favicon icon
2 - drop down list goes hidden after entering colon ":"
http://files.myopera.com/nimeshthakkar/files/go%20to%20page%20-2.png -

+1 for adding "Camera permissions" in "Delete Private Data" window, but the window is growing in height and does not fit properly on small screens, it can be revamped by splitting the options in 2 columns and remove the delete/clear word as it's understood, like here
http://files.myopera.com/nimeshthakkar/files/delete_private_data.png -

Originally posted by nimeshthakkar:

Address field in "Go To Page" window is broken1 - Text is overlapping the favicon icon

Confirmed.
Ubuntu 12.04 amd64, x64 build, no hwa

Originally posted by Grasli:

You had to fuck up the address-bar size again didn't you? Yes you just had to fuck it up again after fixing it before..



"Top-line" is 1px bigger than the "lower-line"...



Windows 7 x64 Pro..

Do you really have to cuss about such an irrelevant issue? It's an oversight that they need to fix but do you really need to be so melodramatic about it?

Originally posted by nimeshthakkar:

+1 for adding "Camera permissions" in "Delete Private Data" window, but the window is growing in height and does not fit properly on small screens, it can be revamped by splitting the options in 2 columns and remove the delete/clear word as it's understood, like here
http://files.myopera.com/nimeshthakkar/files/delete_private_data.png]

I definitely agree with your suggestion. The options should be split in two columns to increase the window's size in width and decrease its height for improving the layout significantly.

Well... with this one I've lost:
1. my bookmarks: can't read them from .adr file or sync with link;
2. all dictionaries (even trying to reinstall them with no luck, the only one is english US);
3. in french, there is no text displayed on the master password dialog window when Opera ask for it at startup.

Still quite unstable with 45 tabs in 4 windows, with a graphic card with 256 MB (NVIDIA Geforce 9400M, OpenGL, 10.6.8)

@alharawi, did you try a clean profile?

Anyone having trouble connecting to TWITTER with OPERA 12?

Can sign in with other browsers but not OPERA12BETA

Originally posted by MUSCLFURPEX:

Anyone having trouble connecting to TWITTER with OPERA 12?

Can sign in with other browsers but not OPERA12BETA

No problem here.

- Windows 7 SP1 64-bit;
- Opera Next 12.00 build 1387 x64;
- HWA disabled, WebGL and WebSockets enabled;
- no extensions installed.

Originally posted by satomew:

Originally posted by Nasty:

BUG: On Raiffeisen Bank Poland login page, characters inputed in Username and Password fields are entered two at one keypress. Knoppix 6.2.1 and Shockwave Flash Plugin 10.3 r183.

Do you confirm or is it a bug in my version of Flash Plugin?

Try updating Flash Player first. I'm on the latest version and that does not occur here.

I updated Flash Player to latest version 11.2 r202. It didn't help.
This must be a bug in Opera. I believe it worked fine with previous version of Flash but earlier Opera builds. I filed a bug report DSK-362584.

This beta is considerably slower in my personal benchmark tests than 12.00.1293 (the first Labs OOPP build which was one of the fastest so far) and not much faster than 11.11 when it comes to JS performance when manipulating several hundred elements, no matter if HWA is on or off.

During some tests for the new version of my extension I recognized too, that 11.62 renders everything in a blink while 12 takes it's time, especially when reading values of HTML elements with element.getPropertyValue("foo")

Timing it showed a up to 3 times worse performance compared to the above mentioned Versions.


Normally I don't benchmark unstable versions, but this is a Beta you can find on the Opera download page and such must hold up to higher standards than the usual snapshots we get here.

Originally posted by Nasty:

I hope you indeed finally will focus on stabilization and improving performance and that you will achieve serious progress, because through many builds performance was getting worse and worse, including freezes/hangs (requiring killing Opera) and 100% CPU issues happening on a daily basis... Beta also has these issues. I can see it on a measurable scale on a session which includes 360 tabs in 5 windows.

I must add something about performance of startup times.

Yet 3 months and over 115 builds ago Opera startup took 45 seconds (on 270 pages), a bit later, in build 1272 it doubled to 82 seconds. Through last 3 months it grew up again almost 3 times, to a whopping 220 seconds (with 360 pages though).

But that's not all!
3 months ago Opera 12 ended startup phase reliably upon *every* single startup (CPU usage went down from 100% to 0% thus Opera became fully responsive and started to work smoothly). In current builds including Beta it happens like 1 in 10 times - it's like winning in a lottery... 9 in 10 times Opera stays with 100% CPU usage forever so I have to launch and close Opera many times, wait 4 minutes each time, until I encounter a time when Opera loads properly.

And opera:cpu is lying too now - it shows usage of 12% CPU upon startup, when it really is 100%. I guess the most part of CPU usage that previously was displayed as "Other" is now not counted at all. Please fix it too, if it is Vega engine, show it in opera:cpu. Should I file a bug report?

The only good thing I can tell about this buggy and low-performance Beta is that it does not crash for me.
Opera Desktop Team, you really have much to fix - at least revert to the state from 3 months ago - to deserve to boast "improved performance" in news release of Opera 12 final.

Win 7x64. Played video at https://my.opera.com/community/operalink/ in YouTube. After playing, try to close page and Opera locks up and has to be closed entirely from the X. Works fine with 11.62.

Moderator edit: This comment was removed for breaching our terms of service.

I filed a bug report No. DSK-362600 for the following bug:
"Opera Next" menu button disappears after closing Preferences

Steps:
1. Open pages in few Opera windows.
2. Press Ctrl+F12 to enter Preferences. Change some option in Preferences, e.g. switch off and on "Use Password manager" checkbox on Forms tab.
3. Click OK.

The problem:
The Preferences window closes, but after it disappears, in some Opera windows the "Opera Next" menu button disappears from the tab bar, in some Opera windows it moves to a second line - above tab bar.

I have tested this build and so far it's slower than Firefox and Chrome in Google v8, SunSpider and Dromaeo. The results are quite bad compared to the other browsers.
I have tested the x64 version with hardware acceleration enabled.
Can anyone account for the poor test results?

Originally posted by Nasty:

Originally posted by Nasty:

I hope you indeed finally will focus on stabilization and improving performance and that you will achieve serious progress, because through many builds performance was getting worse and worse, including freezes/hangs (requiring killing Opera) and 100% CPU issues happening on a daily basis... Beta also has these issues. I can see it on a measurable scale on a session which includes 360 tabs in 5 windows.

I must add something about performance of startup times.

Yet http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/show.dml/40132942?startidx=250#comment82123052]3 months and over 115 builds ago Opera startup took 45 seconds (on 270 pages), a bit later, in build 1272 it doubled to 82 seconds. Through last 3 months it grew up again almost 3 times, to a whopping 220 seconds (with 360 pages though).

But that's not all! 3 months ago Opera 12 ended startup phase (CPU usage went down from 100% to 0% thus Opera became fully responsive and started to work smoothly) reliably upon *every* single startup. In current builds including Beta it happens like 1 in 10 times - it's like winning in a lottery... 9 in 10 times Opera stays with 100% CPU usage forever so I have to launch and close Opera many times, wait 4 minutes each time, until I encounter a time when Opera loads properly.

And opera:cpu is lying too now - it shows usage of 12% CPU upon startup, when it really is 100%. I guess the most part of CPU usage that previously was displayed as "Other" is now not counted at all. Please fix it too, if it is Vega engine, show it in opera:cpu. Should I file a bug report?

The only good thing I can tell about this buggy and low-performance Beta is that it is stable for me - does not crash.
Opera Desktop Team, you really have much to fix - at least revert to the state from 3 months ago - to deserve to boast "improved performance" in news release of Opera 12 final.

Sorry for the long quote but it relates to this. It's not just cpu time that opera eats up, I also noticed heavy disk access(disk access led on my laptop blinks heavily) during the times opera is so slow(and I'm pretty sure it's opera that's causing it because closing Opera through the task manager calms it down). Enabling my antivirus(Avast, I disable it for increased performance when I'm not paranoid about security) helps ease that out.

Opera:

IE:


Conlusion:

Originally posted by BakLAN:

Opera:
http://uaimage.com/t/1910957_d40bd0ea.jpg>

Assuming your first image is referring to the overwrite error, it was discussed here on the last build. Turn off "enable hardware acceleration" (0) in opera:config

You complain about long Opera startup. Problem was in AV software that check all files and Opera read all files in cache instead of read one file with index of all cache files. So - if you have 10 thousand files in cache - Opera starts loooong time.

When installing one of the "Themes", this version behaves extremely jittery when resizing the browser window. This does not happen with proper skins, even skins with extreme customizations behave well and resizing is ultra smooth.

Test it by comparing the resize performance of a theme from the official themes page and a proper skin from the official skins page.

Please don't test with a computer with an ultra high end X-treme gamer 10 gazillion Gigabyte DDR 100 grapics card mounted, but with an every day solution. The effect is best visible with on-board graphics like they are used in many business computers.

Originally posted by rekkoo:

You complain about long Opera startup. Problem was in AV software (...)

Nope, I wondered too about the slow starts because my 12 Version started fast (no wonder, it was an ultra clean install), so I imported the profile of 11.62 in 12 to produce a real world use case and started it. It took ages. 11.62 with exactly the same data started up almost instantly.

I closed 12 and started it again and it took ages again. I cleaned the private data and restarted but that didn't change much.

Both locations were checked by my AV software. The impact of the AV Software is less than 2% in startup time, even with cache files of about 500MB size in total.

btw: i don't care about startup times in every day life. Normally I start the stable browser version once a day, so 1 or 5 minutes more or less don't make a real difference compared to the hours I use it - but - if one version is so much slower with the same data set I can only adapt a quote: "Oslo, we have a problem."

I've noticed on a couple sites I'm getting corrupted date info showing it's the year 2148. I didn't realize you sneaked in that HG Wells enhancement into Wahoo.

See here (see copyright date at bottom). Seems to be showing the current date, as June 5.

Anyone confirm? (OSX Lion)

Lots of problems on Opera / Linux with Flash videos on websites like dailymotion and vimeo... can't play any video, player crashes everytime.

Opera 12 beta
Flash 11,2,202,233
Linux x86_64

DuckDuckGo is not included in Opera 12 ?

And also I can't listen to my music on Google Play Music with Opera.
I activated html5 support (via Google Music Labs) because flash is a pain but it still doesn't work

Dots of list items staying on left in some pages, in chrome not a problem.

http://tr.wikiquote.org/wiki/Nâzım_Hikmet
Opera: http://prntscr.com/8nqay
Chrome: http://prntscr.com/8nqbi

Hello!

Although it began to use a 64-bit version, it is the very much good result.
Since a problem is in the site side, and there is also a site referred to as useless if it is not IE even if it is using which Browser now, although is that right and this is troubled too although it is the touch whose site which does not carry out intended operation also increased, IE cannot be parted with.
Since M2 has a direction of Opera currently used for years since Mozilla also still has IE dependence after all, I think that it is easy-to-use.
that the security of e-mail is required these days merely increased -- although OpenPGP is still required hardly, S/MIME which can also do a setup simply is becoming quite general.
Since it is unavoidable, it has now a puzzling form which S/MIME says to a required partner as M2 using Thenderbird except it.
Since it introduces the concept of security also into M2 soon or it becomes unnecessary to use a mailer properly also on ? and an individual target, it is very helpful, and I think that you may say that mounting is already indispensable since the security in e-mail has also already been halfway lent with common sense.

Mod edit: Too many off-topic comments, causing a flood of noise which drowns out relevant feedback.

Originally posted by satomew:

@alharawi, did you try a clean profile?

Yep !
I got my bookmark back, but can't sync Opera Link at all : "A unknown error occured..." and don't have any dictionaries except the default one.
The master password window still present no text at all.

Really awful decision. OperaUnite is a (was ...) exclusive nice feature, sharing files with cool features, probably not very understood by many users. I hope Opera Team reviews their project plans about it..However i think they will supports OperaUnite features inside some add-ons extensions, with compatible files management. I love&support this amazing browser since 1.0, always leavin' others competitors always in a second position. regards AC

Originally posted by devloop:

And also I can't listen to my music on Google Play Music with Opera.
I activated html5 support (via Google Music Labs) because flash is a pain but it still doesn't work

Opera doesn't support mp3 natively and the Google use browser sniffing instead of feature sniffing, so the patched opera.dll also useless. You can't masking Opera as Chrome.

Probably this is the same problem as many other people are reporting . . . I found that this Opera build was using 1GiB of virtual memory and 500MB of actual memory!!! on my Mac with 1GB of memory. And there were only two tabs.

I guess this is the reason why my machine often slows down recently, when Opera Next is running.
(No, Opera doesn't use much CPU time unless it runs flash.)

This behavior is not "decent." Can't Opera automatically limit its memory use? For example, if the machine has 1GiB of actual memory, Opera should limit itself to, say, 300MB.

Originally posted by furue:

Probably this is the same problem as many other people are reporting . . . I found that this Opera build was using 1GiB of virtual memory and 500MB of actual memory!!! on my Mac with 1GB of memory. And there were only two tabs.

I guess this is the reason why my machine often slows down recently, when Opera Next is running.
(No, Opera doesn't use much CPU time unless it runs flash.)

This behavior is not "decent." Can't Opera automatically limit its memory use? For example, if the machine has 1GiB of actual memory, Opera should limit itself to, say, 300MB.

Have you tried turning off memory cache?

Originally posted by QuHno:

Nope, I wondered too about the slow starts because my 12 Version started fast (no wonder, it was an ultra clean install), so I imported the profile of 11.62 in 12 to produce a real world use case and started it. It took ages. 11.62 with exactly the same data started up almost instantly.

When importing profile data from another Opera installation make sure to never to import the operaprefs.ini as it contains absolute paths.

Originally posted by kamalesh:

I've noticed on a couple sites I'm getting corrupted date info showing it's the year 2148. I didn't realize you sneaked in that HG Wells enhancement into Wahoo.

http://www.booknotes.org/default.aspx">See here (see copyright date at bottom). Seems to be showing the http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/showtimes/">current date, as June 5.

Anyone confirm? (OSX Lion)

Unconfirmed on Win 7 SP1 x86.

Please solve Huge memory usage on GPU. (~900Mb)

AMD 5750 1Gb
Windows 7 64bit

The last image (second hvhs-7-1999-600dpi-unoptimised-jpeg.jpg) doesn't load with HWA on (Win 7 x64 + Opera x64)

http://hydro.electric.gen.nz/photos/hvhs/leaving%20photograph/

If the HWA is off, it works fine. Anyone confirm?

Originally posted by Penge4:

The last image (second hvhs-7-1999-600dpi-unoptimised-jpeg.jpg) doesn't load with HWA on (Win 7 x64 + Opera x64)http://hydro.electric.gen.nz/photos/hvhs/leaving%20photograph/If the HWA is off, it works fine. Anyone confirm?

Working fine here!

AMD 5750
Windows 7 64bit
H/W On

"Go" button (browser view) has larger vertical size than other buttons, causing the address bar height to increase.

Good work!

Originally posted by QuHno:

When installing one of the "Themes", this version behaves extremely jittery when resizing the browser window. This does not happen with proper skins, even skins with extreme customizations behave well and resizing is ultra smooth.

Same with scroll on speed dial page when theme is applied and the speed dial icons are more and the page has to be scrolled.

Originally posted by mubaidr:

Working fine here!

I tested in clean profile (USB install), and I can reproduce. The second "hvhs-7-1999-600dpi-unoptimised-jpeg.jpg" doesn't load, only an white "Image" placeholder.
(Nvidia 7600GT)

Originally posted by kamalesh:

I've noticed on a couple sites I'm getting corrupted date info showing it's the year 2148. I didn't realize you sneaked in that HG Wells enhancement into Wahoo.

http://www.booknotes.org/default.aspx">See here (see copyright date at bottom). Seems to be showing the http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/showtimes/">current date, as June 5.

Anyone confirm? (OSX Lion)

Yes, I'm having the same problem, same date. Also using OSX Lion.

Originally posted by Penge4:

The last image (second hvhs-7-1999-600dpi-unoptimised-jpeg.jpg) doesn't load with HWA on (Win 7 x64 + Opera x64)

http://hydro.electric.gen.nz/photos/hvhs/leaving%20photograph/
'>http://hydro.electric.gen.nz/photos/hvhs/leaving%20photograph/

If the HWA is off, it works fine. Anyone confirm?

No problem for me. OSX 10.6.8, Nvidia Geforce 9400M, OpenGL

Originally posted by robmsegal:

Originally posted by kamalesh:

I've noticed on a couple sites I'm getting corrupted date info showing it's the year 2148. I didn't realize you sneaked in that HG Wells enhancement into Wahoo.

http://www.booknotes.org/default.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.booknotes.org/default.aspx">See here (see copyright date at bottom). Seems to be showing the http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/showtimes/" target="_blank">http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/showtimes/">current date, as June 5.

Anyone confirm? (OSX Lion)

Yes, I'm having the same problem, same date. Also using OSX Lion.

No problem with OSX Snow Leopard