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Beta stabilisation and Mac clean-up

By Adam Minchintonminch. Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:48:00 PM

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In the run up to the Opera 12 final, we have been busy working hard on improving stability, and fixing bugs! Our HTML5 Drag and drop support has major improvements in this snapshot, along with all the other fixes.

On Mac we are endeavoring to become better by making Opera faster, easier and smarter. To achieve this we are with this snapshot adding more native OS X features as well as discontinuing some less relevant features.

Opera was the first major web browser in the Mac App Store, and we are making sure we stay there by introducing support for OS X Sandboxing in Opera 12. Sandboxing is a operating system level security measure that limits an applications access to the system to prevent malicious code from taking over an app and causing damage to the system. OS X Mountain Lion also introduces Gatekeeper, protecting users by only allowing Apple developer signed or sandboxed applications run on the system. Opera will be one of these applications. Look forward to even more of OS X Mountain Lion's new features in the future.

This snapshot also includes a more focused user interface for Mac. Legacy toolbars such as the start bar, navigation bar and the bar that once upon a time was the “main” browser toolbar, are all gone. Furthermore, the introduction of Themes in Opera 12 have made us remove the advanced preferences overriding things like the default icon size and the color tone of the skin. Finally, we have removed some little used features on Mac; IRC chat and BitTorrent. For these we believe there are better alternatives than the current features, and this move allow us to focus our resources on the stuff that really makes the browser better.

All these changes are only applicable for Mac for now.

Known issues
  • DSK-363145 (Tab close button is not ignored over inactive background tab when tab width is narrow)
  • DSK-362951 ([Mac] Only English dictionary and dict. installer is non-functional)

WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes, and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

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Sandboxed Mac version

We have included with this snapshot a sandboxed version of Opera so you can try out what we will be distributing though the Mac App Store in the future. Please give it a try and let us know if you have any problems, and remember to read the extra information and warnings below. If in doubt stick to the standard snapshot smile

Important notes for Mac users: Auto-update is disabled for the sandboxed build. It will not receive newer snapshots or final releases automatically. Your Opera Next profile will be migrated into a sandboxed profile when running a sandboxed build for the first time. Please backup your profile before running the build in case you want to go back to a non-sandbosed build.

MAC WARNING: Mac users who opt for the sandbox build must backup their Opera Next profiles. The profile will be migrated to the sandbox when running a sandboxed build for the first time.


Changelog

Desktop
  • DSK-360046 Crash in mail list view
  • DSK-359288 Hovering the close button in an inactive tab steals its hover state, while it should propagate it
  • DSK-361399 Dragging street view icon on the the map doesn't work
  • DSK-358350 Can't drag and drop mail labels
  • DSK-360118 Dragging and dropping extension's config.xml installs extension in developer mode twice
  • DSK-360566 Drag and drop of categories in mail panel doesn't fully work
  • DSK-358888 Clicking the middle mouse button does not cancel drag
  • DSK-358980 Modifier keys don't work
  • DSK-359363 Wrong icon when dragging bookmark to empty part of the bookmarks panel
  • DSK-359434 Dragged object is lost when hovering over side panel
  • DSK-359456 Drag and drop an attachment in the mail body opens the file instead of attaching it
  • DSK-359753 empty file 'defaults' created when dragging file from and dropping it on the downloads manager
  • DSK-362022 [Linux] Forms look weird when using opera and gnome 3.4 using Adwaita as GTK+ theme

Mac
  • Removed IRC client
  • Removed Start bar
  • Removed Navigation bar
  • Removed Main bar
  • Removed BitTorrent support
  • Cleaned up Appearance dialog
  • DSK-361325 'macappstore' protocol links cannot find App Store.app
  • DSK-360541 Links from external programs opens in private tabs when a private tab is focused
  • DSK-361587 Minimized window temporarily brought back up from the Dock when creating a new window
  • DSK-360769 Wrong key name Atl for Alt key in menus
  • DSK-362826 Some deep nested sub menus do not appear on hover
  • DSK-359600 Dragging on scrollbar fails

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Comments

Wojciech EysymonttNasty Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:48:57 PM

Originally posted by highstream:

I've come across a few videos at Yahoo that don't run (most do). For example, just now the one at the link below doesn't. I have the latest Adobe Flash for non-IE browsers and the video does run with FF, which uses the same plugin.

http://news.yahoo.com/121-megapixel-photo-earth-jaw-drop-044832441.html;_ylt=Ao83OauptBwY3zAZJupzSffbFr8C;_ylu=X3oDMTRvMnJtbmxyBGNjb2RlA2dtcHRvcDEwMDBwb29sd2lraXVwcmVzdARtaXQDTmV3cyBmb3IgeW91BHBrZwNjNzM4MjBkMi0yNjM0LTM5NjctYjIwOC02NmU3ODNiODU4YWUEcG9zAzIEc2VjA25ld3NfZm9yX3lvdQR2ZXIDNGIwMjI5ODItOWUwYS0xMWUxLWI3ZmYtZDJmMjM0YzJmOWZl;_ylg=X3oDMTNhaGhvN2MzBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDNDkxMzBkNzctNTI1OS0zN2YyLTk0MTktMWM1MGMzYjhkMmI4BHBzdGNhdANlbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50fGNlbGVicml0eQRwdANzdG9yeXBhZ2U-;_ylv=3


Confirmed on Knoppix 6.2.1 32-bit. Does not work, also in new build 1413 released today, 15 May.
I have also seen today few videos on Youtube that did not work - Opera behaved the same way as on the Yahoo page you gave link to.

Please report it to Bug Tracking system.

Wojciech EysymonttNasty Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:52:18 PM

Originally posted by minho:

I cant open this link
http://www.mediafire.com/?qe68d4cz529slf9

I see only a blank page. No problem on Firefox 12.
Fedora 16 x32


I confirm. I also see only blank page, even on build 1413 released today. Knoppix 6.2.1. x32.

However main page http://www.mediafire.com displays properly.

Rafael Luikrafaelluik Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:23:11 AM

Originally posted by MossMan:

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

It has been never there as far as I know... Menu -> Settings -> Preferences... (Ctrl + F12) -> Forms tab.



Yeah - that's a much "cleaner" way of getting to it than using a clumsy, cluttered, ugly, old-fashioned menu bar... rolleyes

(directed at the Opera-button designers, not you)

Care to elaborate? It has never been in the old-fashioned menus.

QuHno Wednesday, May 16, 2012 5:49:14 AM

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

Care to elaborate? It has never been in the old-fashioned menus.


ironic - I think he meant a good old, old fashioned menu bar would have been the better way instead of the way it is.

Rafael Luikrafaelluik Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:51:20 AM

I'm lost! p

Tiago Wakabayashiozoratsubasa Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:02:17 AM

Originally posted by MossMan:

- if they do go the extension route, then Opera really MUST support, maintain and promote a core set of "official" extensions. This extension set could be the place to launch new features (with plenty of promotion and continued support!) - and if features prove to be very popular, innovative or useful then they should be migrated into the browser by default!



This would be good smile


Originally posted by Claudio791:

The IRC client for me really makes the browser better.There are not better alternatives than the current feature.I don't want to install another program.The IRC chat of Opera is perfect for me and many others users.I'm a daily user.In our italiano+ room's we have helped many people with Opera. We solved many problems.How many things I knew thanks to the IRC client of Opera ...I hope in the next snapshot you restore the IRC client for Mac and you want to maintain this for all operating systems.Only Opera has an integrated IRC client.No other browser.You would lose a big advantage



Opera should do a search and see +/- how many peoples uses IRC and becoming those IRC users in Opera users.


Originally posted by patkoscsaba:

I was thinking... maybe Opera is just getting a big enough company to ignore it's users. All the examples in computer history that I can remember ended in the same way. Little company, very responsive, doing what users want, resulting in happy users and happy company. After some time company gets richer and richer, bigger and bigger, and the products start to reflect more and more company policy and less and less user requests.Did Apple ask anyone when they removed the "Save as..." feature from MacOS? Did they even care that many of their users were upset?Did Microsoft ever asked a user before dropping a feature?... It seems like this is how things are evolving. When a product has enough momentum and size, the user becomes second-class citizen.What does this tell you? To me, it tells that it may be time to move on, to find a smaller company or group of programmers who are doing more user oriented applications... Or is it?



A 2% market share browsing company doesn't have moral/respect to do that, and shouln't anyway.

Originally posted by FataL:

I would agree with removing those only if these panels can be recreated with add-ons. Ability to create custom panels was asked many times before.



I'm not according to. Not totally, How woulbe a custom panel example?

discerr Friday, May 18, 2012 4:59:18 AM

Just want to throw my two cents in here; I'm a start-bar loyalist. I love running a minimal UI (i.e., just the tab-bar and the address-bar) but the start-bar allows me to stash my infrequently used buttons (eg., bookmarks, fit-to-width, closed tabs, etc.) The start-bar provided me a perfect place to hide these buttons during normal browsing, yet access them with a simple click of the address bar. PLEASE reconsider this.

Lots of people are complaining about the loss of IRC client, and while I have used the feature in the past and found it satisfactory, it is somewhat removed from the core objective of web browsing. The same can't be said about the start-bar though.

MossMan Friday, May 18, 2012 11:12:20 AM

Originally posted by QuHno:

Originally posted by rafaelluik:
Care to elaborate? It has never been in the old-fashioned menus.
ironic - I think he meant a good old, old fashioned menu bar would have been the better way instead of the way it is.



Nope.

Turn on menu bar.
Tools -> advanced -> password manager

Basically they threw away (or forgot) the "advanced" menu when they introduced the Opera button.

MossMan Friday, May 18, 2012 11:19:13 AM

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

I'm lost!



I mentioned somewhere the old days of the Opera newsgroups...

It was SO MUCH EASIER then to follow special topics about certain functions! Another example where the Facebook age has reversed some progress...

I just had a look for old times' sake but the newsgroups have been dead since 2010... Last articles are all spam and then it just stops. sad

EricJH Friday, May 18, 2012 1:25:35 PM

Originally posted by discerr:

Just want to throw my two cents in here; I'm a start-bar loyalist. I love running a minimal UI (i.e., just the tab-bar and the address-bar) but the start-bar allows me to stash my infrequently used buttons (eg., bookmarks, fit-to-width, closed tabs, etc.) The start-bar provided me a perfect place to hide these buttons during normal browsing, yet access them with a simple click of the address bar. PLEASE reconsider this.

Lots of people are complaining about the loss of IRC client, and while I have used the feature in the past and found it satisfactory, it is somewhat removed from the core objective of web browsing. The same can't be said about the start-bar though.

+10 from another start bar loyalist.

QuHno Friday, May 18, 2012 2:47:32 PM

Originally posted by discerr:

The start-bar provided me a perfect place to hide these buttons


I use the view-bar instead. Just drag the view button to the address bar, click it and start adding buttons ...

... but be aware of the buttonitis, it is contagious bigsmile

Rafael Luikrafaelluik Friday, May 18, 2012 11:11:48 PM

Originally posted by MossMan:

Originally posted by QuHno:

Originally posted by rafaelluik:
Care to elaborate? It has never been in the old-fashioned menus.
ironic - I think he meant a good old, old fashioned menu bar would have been the better way instead of the way it is.



Nope.

Turn on menu bar.
Tools -> advanced -> password manager

Basically they threw away (or forgot) the "advanced" menu when they introduced the Opera button.

Ohh, right! smile And there's the cookies manager I missed the other day! Haha, only available through the preferences dialog now...

Rand Saturday, May 19, 2012 10:52:10 AM

Originally posted by discerr:

Just want to throw my two cents in here; I'm a start-bar loyalist. I love running a minimal UI (i.e., just the tab-bar and the address-bar) but the start-bar allows me to stash my infrequently used buttons (eg., bookmarks, fit-to-width, closed tabs, etc.) The start-bar provided me a perfect place to hide these buttons during normal browsing, yet access them with a simple click of the address bar. PLEASE reconsider this.



I've always found the start bar useful for that purpose too, it's seldom used but would be sorely missed if I had to do without.

WJ waj1944 Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:37:40 PM

Certain videos refuse to play with Opera 12 b.1429 on MAC 10.7.4.
Especially when on www.espn.com. I updated the Flash still no luck. I noticed that they will not play on Opera 11.64 either. Also I noticed that embedded flash videos don't seem to play correctly.

WJ waj1944 Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:59:24 PM

I have reported this in previous releases and it seems to be an issue in Opera 12 b.1429 for OSX as well.

When you click on "send link by mail" the sites subject moves over to the subject line but the URL / link does not move over to the subject box. Is this a real issue to fix?

Yuri Constantinofffatnoob Sunday, May 27, 2012 2:33:35 AM

By killing server and voice, Opera becomes yet another browser. Why try to blend in if Chrome, the browser everyone mimics, drew inspiration from you? Try to keep leading rather than blend in! BTW, why did 11.50 kill theme compatibility (i.e. theming of mainbar)? This really annoys me to no end. sad

Alice Greenalicesports Monday, June 4, 2012 7:19:56 AM

smile

Артур mrshtirlic Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:58:52 AM

In fact the browser was better to work

Dennis w Colebigdee Monday, August 20, 2012 7:17:48 PM

Dennis # had to uninstalled opera 12.01 from my intel mac always freezing up 12.01 is junk i have reinstalled it 2 times on my mac and on a dell xps 9100. opera user for 9 years.

Damon Andersonartpoetryfiction Monday, August 27, 2012 4:06:08 AM

I must strongly disagree!!!! I have tried the other IRC clients, and none compares to Opera!!! Bring it back!!!

EricJH Tuesday, August 28, 2012 11:38:44 AM

Originally posted by hargagadget:

this very wonderfull, but sometimes i very tried with IRC clients, may opera be better browser(removed link)

Stealth spam message...

Haavardhaavard Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:08:30 AM

Originally posted by EricJH:

Stealth spam message...

Which is why it shouldn't be quoted...

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