There seems to be a new problem in this build either with the reload-button or the caching behavior (did you guys change something in there?):
I reloaded this blog 3 times via the button and then via the mouse gesture. The first three times, nothing showed up. When using the mouse gesture it finally showed that there were new subscriptions...

Moreover when there have been new subscriptions and you viewed them, the icon vanishes, but if you click on the desktop team logo, the icon shows up again without new subscriptions...
But this might be a problem of this blog as well since I encountered this situation a lot of times with safari on my phone (but I never saw it in Opera before...)

I also have a quesion. What is the real purpose of hardware acceleration? I always thought that it is to move the computations from CPU to GPU. So why there is so big CPU usage when HW is enabled and playing flash videos? Hardware acceleration seems to be very counter-productive in Opera...

So strange. You would think that maintaining a smooth video flow and high frame rate would be EASIER in a smaller, embedded video, than in full screen, full resolution.

However, even with the brand-new driver, Opera Next with HWA enabled still displays little embedded videos on my machine all jerky, with tons of dropped frames, and then if I switch the video to fullscreen mode, it smooths right out. Makes no sense to me.

https://battlelog.battlefield.com crushes...

on clicking closed tabs (down arrow) opera window is closed. (It's not a crash, but a bug/strange behavior).

Windows XP with windows classic theme only (Windows XP theme works great).

ayespy, when you make it full screen it gets hardware rendering, otherwise it's software rendered.

I'm stupid, I do not know English that is written here, I installed Opera in their native language

Wow! That was hilarious!! Here I am, working away in Opea Next, HWA enabled on my W7 SP1 X86 machine with my Nvidia 6150SE purring away under the management of the new driver that came out today, looking at a fairly complex news aggregating magazine page with ads, embedded video, links to here there and everywhere, when BAM!

Opera closes in the blink of an eye, and my monitor goes completely black. Moments later, the display is back, at a resolution of 640 X 480 !!! It's not even possible to SET the resolution that low, using Windows or the proprietary Nvidia control panel!

Windows allowed me to select the proper resolution, again, 1920 x 1080, but it was unable to apply my selected value. the Nvidia control panel came to my rescue, however, and put everything back to normal.

Funny, really. How do you guys do that?

Originally posted by sie65:

ayespy, when you make it full screen it gets hardware rendering, otherwise it's software rendered.

Curioser and curioser. It's always software rendered under 11 and that's smooth, and when you turn off HWA, it's smooth under 12 as well.

So, something about having HWA on must make the software rendering under 12 faulty.

Still having video corruption: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/Delerue/Clipboard01-1.jpg

Opera x86 + XP x64 + 9600 GT driver 285.58 + Enable Hardware Acceleration + Enable WebGL + at random websites at random moment (this SS was taken inside Facebook).

Originally posted by sabisan:

Thx for a new build .

Things are getting better and better .

Everything seems much snappier.

Though:

- scrolling performance is still bad
- favicons disappearing from bookmarks-bar
- (when using visual tabs) it's a GUI-request thing, but anyways. It's very hard to spot a selected tab on a first glance.

Win7x64, Opera x64

I totally agree with you.

Originally posted by ahoj1234:

Originally posted by EricJH:

Type opera:plugins in the address bar and push enter. Go trough the list of loaded plugins. If you see a plugin, Flash in this case, loaded twice disable one of the two. Do this for all plugins.

good point.. why we have more than 1 plugin for for example flash,java etc.. enabled or loaded in Opera..? Why is not 1 plugin for 1 thing enough..?

Here is the history.

Many programs with plugins did not put their plugins in the Opera plugins folder. Back in the days you would copy the plugin from another browser or from the installation folder of the program to the Opera plugins folder.

Next thing Opera tried was looking in the Firefox plugin folder as well. Now the double loading of plugins started to appear. A next step was to also look in the installation folder of the providing programs. You could now end up with a plugin loaded both from the FF and from the installation folder; think two times of nppdf.dll, NPSWF32_11_2_202_235.dll etc...

The problem was finally tackled by making sure to load a plug in only once. But apparently that regressed in Opera Next. I filed a bug report about it with number DSK-363982.

Originally posted by BigMuscle:

I also have a quesion. What is the real purpose of hardware acceleration? I always thought that it is to move the computations from CPU to GPU. So why there is so big CPU usage when HW is enabled and playing flash videos? Hardware acceleration seems to be very counter-productive in Opera...

Opera is aware that the Direct X back end needs more work and disabled HWA by default with the beta. Open GL is currently better than Direct X (Opera started HWA with Open GL; hence the difference).


@Ayespy. I doubt that what you are describing is on Opera's end. Its the driver doing something weird. May be the driver is not tested in scenarios like this.

I noticed before that its best not to have Opera running when updating my ATI Catalyst drivers. Opera will freeze or so but I have never seen anything like this while installing a driver with Opera active.

When you say bug fix and then this; "WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all." Well you must see the irony. I'll try to check it out and criticize. Avoid my temptation to use incognito comodo (which has a huge down side, yes blocks extensions.

Originally posted by EricJH:

@Ayespy. I doubt that what you are describing is on Opera's end. Its the driver doing something weird. May be the driver is not tested in scenarios like this.

There's no question it's the driver doing something weird. However, it's been clear for some time that it's Opera (HWA enabled) that makes my video driver do weird things.

Under different driver versions, as Nvidia has (rather rapidly) rolled out new drivers for even my old gpu, Opera, and Opera only, (one can tell, as the first thing that happens is Opera 12 freezes or crashes, and it happens under NO other program) has caused :

a) jagged and fragmented images and image borders in the whole system, appearence changed by hovering affected objects, (Open GL)

b) display consisting of thin, patchy black and white alternating horizontal lines with some web page images isolated upon the field of "static," (DirectX)

c) The scenario above, where display adapter is placed in coma and upon awakening is reduced to moron/zombie state incapable of showing more than 640x480 resolution. (DirectX)

Obviously, it is my system doing this. Just as obviously, Opera's HWA gives my video card a nervous breakdown first. In the a) scenario above, only a system restart was able to restore normal video. In the other scenarios, I was able to return the system to normal by closing Opera or restoring settings.

I am not a "compleat idiot" (after the book titles of the same name), so I do not update drivers with anything running.

Originally posted by kikos90:

https://battlelog.battlefield.com crushes...

Works perfect here.

Win7 32 bit
GeForce 7600 GS - driver version 301.42
Opera settings: HWA + WebGL turned on

Originally posted by sabisan:

favicons disappearing from bookmarks-bar

I concur.

Originally posted by BigMuscle:

What is the real purpose of hardware acceleration? I always thought that it is to move the computations from CPU to GPU. So why there is so big CPU usage when HW is enabled and playing flash videos? Hardware acceleration seems to be very counter-productive in Opera...

The Flash is an Adobe plugin. It's a black box. Opera has nothing to do with it. But the WebM videos also has high CPU usage. Even a simple scrolling cause GPU spikes and CPU spikes in parallel. So I agree, HWA needs much improvement.

Originally posted by EricJH:

The problem was finally tackled by making sure to load a plug in only once. But apparently that regressed in Opera Next. I filed a bug report about it with number DSK-363982.

In truth it's caused by loading both 32bits and 64bits version of the plugins.
All you need to do is disable the 32bits version on Ox64.
Flash for some unknown reason install 32bits version in SysWOW64 folder and 64bits in system32 folder.

@Opera team
Thanks for fixing opacity with HWA on and the update dialog not closing.

I'm having the incomplete text rewrite problem in this build again, even with WebGL off. Previously I thought that was the culprit. Takes some scrolls up and down, or just waiting awhile, to get text full. Doesn't happen with IE 9 or FF. Example:

I have some trouble to compose mail from Opera, I can edit the content.

The drop down list from F2 dialog is empty on linux.
http://files.myopera.com/minho/albums/3631672/f2dialog.png

Ubuntu 12.04 amd64, x64 build, no hwa

Originally posted by Bugfixer:

Still very poor WebGL conformance.

https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/public/webgl/conformance-suites/1.0.1/webgl-conformance-tests.html" target="_blank"/>WebGL Conformance Test Runner
Version 1.0.1

Results: (5472 of 8037 passed, 11 timed out)

Shiznit I just ran that and one of the tests forced opera upto 3.3GB of memory usage

Often complete freezes on twitter.com while twittering or opening links in background tabs.

Freezes while opening background tabs on other websites.

Delays and freezes if content is loaded in background with AJAX or complex JS frameworks line prototype or jquery.


Using x64 on Windows 7 (64bit)
HWA deactivated
NVIDIA Corporation
Quadro FX 370/PCIe/SSE2
Driver version: 8.17.12.9670

I'm still seeing this error when trying to open skydive

Could not connect to remote server


Secure connection: fatal error (552)

https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=c5d80c59a9cd9bb7

Opera was not able to connect to the server, because the server does not communicate via any secure protocol known to Opera.

and I am still asking WTF skydrive uses the same https protocols for an secure connection as hotmail yet I can get into my hotmail account no probs at all

Opera 12.00.1422 x64 on Windows 7 x64

Originally posted by minho:

The drop down list from F2 dialog is empty on linux.
http://files.myopera.com/minho/albums/3631672/f2dialog.png

Ubuntu 12.04 amd64, x64 build, no hwa

confirmed on windows 7, 64bit build. It doesn't even show the dropdown button at first, only if click on OK button and release the click away from the button.

Originally posted by ALLIGATORopera:

Please, view on this usage aspect
http://files.myopera.com/ALLIGATORopera/albums/11829262/opera.png">

If You really use so many tabs consider using "Windows" panel (it's where all panels are). it's very helpful in these situations, and allows to find tab faster than manually. If You use about ~10% of them (how i suspect) learn how to use bookmarks or sessions or extensions like Tab Vault (by spadija). There are many ways to handle this problem, and how Opera displays tabs is really not an issue here. Oh, and don't forget about stacking by category.

Another "Opera is not responding because of Opera Plugin Wrapper (flash)" build? -_- ? HWA disabled by default - Intel Q35 Express Family

Originally posted by mubaidr:

Google Plus is not working with Opera 12. Even if i mask as frirefox or chrome (using extension),
error when try to post something:

<plus.google.com>

TypeError: 'a.setBaseAndExtent' is not a function


Works absolutely fine in Opera 11.64 without any masking!

Hello, can you please give more details what you are trying to do?

Dragging a tab out of tab bar and then over itself creates a stack with only one tab in it:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9582062/One-tab%20Stack.bmp

Anyone else?
Has this already been reported?

Originally posted by An-dz:

Flash for some unknown reason install 32bits version in SysWOW64 folder and 64bits in system32 folder.

It's not "for some unknown reason" - system32 = 64Bit, SysWOW64 = 32Bit WindowsOnWindows.

If anything, it's an unknown reason that system32 hasn't been renamed by Windows; but I think it's all about the compatibility

There's still "Web server" configuration section despite there is no Unite in this version.

I was just testing one of my web-apps at work returning JSON.

Suddenly I get (on every (!) JSON response from my web-app) Opera Crash Logging MsgBox (but Opera doesn't (!) crash) saying:

"Opera crashed while trying to show crash dialog for previous crash."

1) Surely nothing wrong with JSON response

2) I guess after Opera-restart this issue would be gone - because yesterday and today (till now) I didn't have any problems with JSON responses...

3) EDIT3: Still didn't restart Opera - the same error happened when try ing to open an image from some other source (Outlook, etc.)

Win7x64, Operax64

EDIT: I'm using JSONViewer extension and I added ""application/json" MIME type...

EDIT2: Why is OperaDesktopTeam page sooo slow ? When you try to find/edit/etc. your comment..

Originally posted by sie65:

https://www.vbulletin.com/
Opera 10s chrome 3s
https://internetowykantor.pl/
Opera over a minute chrome 14s

confirm, hw off, w7

Then I'm not the only one but i guess we are in the minority.

Originally posted by christoph142:

There seems to be a new problem in this build either with the reload-button or the caching behavior (did you guys change something in there?):
I reloaded this blog 3 times via the button and then via the mouse gesture. The first three times, nothing showed up. When using the mouse gesture it finally showed that there were new subscriptions...

It's not Next! There's something very weird with MyOpera at the moment...

Opera Next gives me a "Found - this page has permanently moved here" message, Opera 11 never stops loading (with nothing on the screen), IE8 says the page is unavailable... (this is all through my company proxy).

Bizarrely, Opera Mobile *does* give me access! Although it's very slow to load all the images, that's what I'm using now (wanted to see if it was my company blocking access). Perhaps the slow response is causing the proxy to choke for my desktop browsers. Strange that the response is different for each one, though.

Originally posted by elitepokemaster:

Dragging a tab out of tab bar and then over itself creates a stack with only one tab in it:

Is it a bug or a feature Stacking a tab on itself stops it collapsing and moving to the left when pinning it.

Originally posted by michalborek:

There's still "Web server" configuration section despite there is no Unite in this version.

Unite is disabled, it is not removed yet. The plan is to remove later in the year.

Not only is this still present: http://puu.sh/gc4n (Close, maximize, and minimize are shifted too far to the side in Opera Next, but fine in stable Opera)
But so is this: http://puu.sh/aeXi (Enabling and disabling menu bar shifts close, maximize and minimize controls)

Maybe the reasoning behind this was addressed, but I missed it. Anyone care to fill me in?

http://www.roque-santa-cruz.co.uk/
impossible to close the pop-up

Originally posted by sie65:

http://www.roque-santa-cruz.co.uk/
impossible to close the pop-up

Confirmed on build 1417. W7 x64 with x64build as clean USB install.. You should report it via report bug wizard..

Some minor improvements, flash and shockwave related issues still, like a loading in a 12:00 flashing sort of vein.

https://apps.facebook.com/petsociety/

Originally posted by mubaidr:

Originally posted by Bugfixer:
Still very poor WebGL conformance.WebGL Conformance Test RunnerVersion 1.0.1 Results: (5472 of 8037 passed, 11 timed out)
Results: (8675 of 8914 passed, 1 timed out)Its good but still lots of webGL demos does not work in Opera Hoping to see some good improvments in coming snapshots!

it seems what webgl depending on render type. When HWA on OGL webgl test pass more test than HWA off or WHA on DX (((
To developers: can you explain why and when it will be fixed?

Originally posted by sie65:

http://www.roque-santa-cruz.co.uk/
impossible to close the pop-up

It is an overlay and you can close it by clicking somewhere at the dimmed section outside of the "popup" instead of the "X".

Originally posted by QuHno:

Originally posted by sie65:

http://www.roque-santa-cruz.co.uk/
impossible to close the pop-up

It is an overlay and you can close it by clicking somewhere at the dimmed section outside of the "popup" instead of the "X".

but the "X" should be enough.. So this is bug.. however you can do it other way..

Originally posted by An-dz:

In truth it's caused by loading both 32bits and 64bits version of the plugins.

Here on 32 bits platform it will load multiple plugins from the Mozilla plugins folder.

Why you don't implement Mp3 and h.264 support like other browsers already do!???

Because they want to support only open standards and not patent riddled stuff as far as i know, but maybe this could change in the future, sadly.

Thanks for the bug fixing. Good thing Opera is not speaking about beta anymore

As an FYI- Google chrome in linux changed the name of its flash plugins to PepperFlash in the latest 20.0 beta. Opera doesn't detect that plugin, it detected Chrome flash plugins before, so I had to switch back to using the Firefox chrome plugin.

The Chrome flash plugin is a more up to date version of flash.

Originally posted by sie65:

http://www.roque-santa-cruz.co.uk/impossible to close the pop-up

Confirmed.
Ubuntu 12.04 amd64, x64 build, no hwa

@ Blazej Kazmierczak

did you read the bug DSK-362047 ? Are its' descriptions clear ? if not, tell me to describe more. this bug no. is related to RTL and not fixed yet.

Originally posted by predator2104:

Why you don't implement Mp3 and h.264 support like other browsers already do!???

Because they have to pay for it tons of millions, because they're not open source. And they are not as rich as Apple, Google or Microsoft.
Plus principles like blackcoder said.