Olly, is there a way to include the painting fix (redraw and redraw delay) from the 12.50 in 12.02? That is a far more jarring issue than that of OOPP in 12.00, 12.01 and 12.02.

Sorry, but scrolling really does suck in more than enough web sites. I mean seriously, Every time a new release is out, it's never as stable as the previous release. Why can't you take what is already stable and apply it to the new release? I'm growing weary of using a browser just because it has nice features. For all I know, Opera developers use Firefox or Chrome and maybe even IE9 behind our backs, and if that is the case than F U C K YOU! Anyway, here is what I wanted to report...


http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/national-geographic-channel/shows/taboo-1/ngc-balloon-infatuation/

Page layout is broken.
http://discoverydocs.net/

Fedora 17 x32, webgl and hwa off

I can't customize my tumblr page at all. Opera will not display my code and masking doesn't help. Everything else including Opera 11.64 displays it though.

Flash might be more stable without the OPP but it still smears when scrolling and that doesn't happen in 11.64.

clean usb install
no extensions
win xp sp3
win 7 sp1
flash version 11.3.300.271

I find I'm using Iron more and more since the 12 branch was released. Mail client and few other things keep me around........for now

x86 is stable under W8 RTM x64, though 12.01 x86 was too.

The issue with slooooow-loading local sites (e.g. modems, routers) is still present, though it was in 12.01 too, and to a large extent in 12.00 (though for me it wasn't quite as bad there across a variety of equipment). There is a report in on it (DSK-367735) from a user who discovered it earlier on.

On the recommendation from Olli to try 12.01+ for better NSL fix I currently am using this latest snapshop (clean profile). Knocking on wood but so far in my short browsing session I have not seen an NSL yet. Usually would have had one by now somewhere. So while they may pop up again with more browsing, it is already better so thanks very much for addressing this issue.

Now I don't know if this is a regression from 12.01 because I didn't use that one but I don't remember 12.x doing this. http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/forum/5-tour-talk/ lags pretty bad while scrolling with mouse arrow on scrollbar. I can get a good 1/4" ahead of scrollbar while scrolling down. Page lags. Confirm?

I don't know if you're aware of this issue since opera 12 with Kiosk mode :

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1447282&t=1345284504&page=1#comment12930842

In my case fullscreen works fine, but kioskmode just isn't anymore in fullscreen since Opera 12.

Opera 11.64 works fine.

Is it possible to fix: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1492882 ?

Originally posted by cawington:

This opera may be a problem?? http://www.hirado.hu/Formula1.aspx

Confirmed [win7, 32 bit]
http://files.myopera.com/melvana/files/Screenshot_1.png -

Originally posted by olli:

Originally posted by alekksander:

decided to finally upgrade my 11.64 into this build (since OOP is out) and... i realized how bad scrolling is in 12.02... any fixes for that? tips or future builds?(plugins on demand are always enabled).
whole update procedure went with no problem, no data is lost, all settings here... but this scrolling.. how can it not be considered as regression? it's really bad! almost like on one of other browsers out there... please opera team, fix this and give us back smooth scrolling we are used to.

Can you give example sites where scrolling is horrible please?

sites with fixed/floating elements
ie. facebook (top bar, chat)

Anybody else is getting problem with speed dial images resizing when opening new tab? It seems like the images gets blury and are displayed in wrong resolution. This was a problem in older versions of opera too if I can remember correctly. Or maybe it's just my problem? Can anybody confirm this?
BTW Click on 'Options' in speed dial will immediately resize images back to proper resolution.

Originally posted by semtexxl:

Anybody else is getting problem with speed dial images resizing when opening new tab? It seems like the images gets blury and are displayed in wrong resolution. This was a problem in older versions of opera too if I can remember correctly. Or maybe it's just my problem? Can anybody confirm this?
BTW Click on 'Options' in speed dial will immediately resize images back to proper resolution.

Confirmed! Win 7 64 default settings...

Originally posted by fmbb:

Originally posted by olli:

Originally posted by alekksander:

decided to finally upgrade my 11.64 into this build (since OOP is out) and... i realized how bad scrolling is in 12.02... any fixes for that? tips or future builds?(plugins on demand are always enabled).
whole update procedure went with no problem, no data is lost, all settings here... but this scrolling.. how can it not be considered as regression? it's really bad! almost like on one of other browsers out there... please opera team, fix this and give us back smooth scrolling we are used to.

Can you give example sites where scrolling is horrible please?

sites with fixed/floating elements
ie. facebook (top bar, chat)

That works better for you in 12.5 snapshots right? Does for me

Originally posted by Acryion:

Olly, is there a way to include the painting fix (redraw and redraw delay) from the 12.50 in 12.02? That is a far more jarring issue than that of OOPP in 12.00, 12.01 and 12.02.

Sticking to smaller fixes for minor releases (well except for reverting oopp)
Anyways we dont plan to spend way to loong time on 12.5 though

Here is a regression(perhaps? not sure is it a bug) from 11.64. 12.01 has the same issue.

Not like 11.64 , in 12.00/12.01/12.02 , saving an image with ctrl + alt + click will trigger various click-action-related events, such as onmousedown ,here is an example below:

http://www.w3school.com.cn/htmldom/event_onmousedown.asp

ctrl + alt + click on the mouse image in the page above, and onmousedown event will get triggered before "save as" dialog comes out.

At some cases, "save as" dialog even won't come out. (Not in the page above, but in some private sites .It's kind of sensitive to post them here publicly.)

Win7 32-bit, HWA disabled.

Intel graphics cards, you will be supported in Opera?

I've been getting a lot of crash reports after closing the browser. I'm not even really doing anything. I've mostly been using 12.50 and occasionally use Open With from 12.50 to open a page in 12.02 to compare. So it's doing it after opening one page.

Opera x64 on Win7

Forget the security certificate is subsequently installed!

Win XP x86

Originally posted by olli:

Sticking to smaller fixes for minor releases (well except for reverting oopp). Anyways we dont plan to spend way to loong time on 12.5 though

Thanks for the heads up. Wanted to say that the usability will be back on track with the scrolling (Next fixed), Flash (never was a problem for me, but you're trying something to fix it for others, props for that) and repaint (Next almost fixed).

Regression with HTML5 functions, Build 1546 has 411 and this 385.

http://html5test.com/

One point for HWA team on http://uberstrike.cmune.com/ the average FPS is 140FPS here and build 1546 is 60FPS.

here is a web with scroll problems
anyone confirm pls

HTML5 Drag and Drop from Opera to Microsoft Word has been broken since Opera 12.01 (Opera 12.00 worked fine) when the content being dragged contains-

[some text here][link here][text continuing here]
[some text here][image][text continues]

In both cases, only the link or the link to the image is dropped. DSK-369020.

ANy chance of fixing it in 12.02?

EDIT: Please add "DSK-370931 Cannot save image by dragging it to desktop on Windows XP" to 12.02 from 12.50 b1546.

Originally posted by vitorboss:

Regression with HTML5 functions, Build 1546 has 411 and this 385.

http://html5test.com/

One point for HWA team on http://uberstrike.cmune.com/ the average FPS is 140FPS here and build 1546 is 60FPS.

Build 1546 is 12.50 which includes HWA improvements, more HTML5 support. This is 12.02 - only a stability release including only fixes for things present in 12.00 (except for plug-in wrapper removal).

Originally posted by olli:

Anyways we dont plan to spend way to loong time on 12.5 though

Perhaps you could learn from the bad experience of releasing 12.00 long before it was ready, and spend as much time as it takes to release 12.50 without any major issues.

More than two months after the release of 12.00 on 14th June, I am still using Opera 11.64 as my default browser while I wait for significant issues to be fixed in Opera 12.0x.

Twice a year is frequent enough for major version updates, so December 2012 would be quite soon enough for Opera 12.50.

Originally posted by olli:

Sticking to smaller fixes for minor releases (well except for reverting oopp)
Anyways we dont plan to spend way to loong time on 12.5 though

thats nice to hear

Are you guys going to fix this small annoying UI bug?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d65cs4k2siocd14/ui.jpg

Shouldn't they be at the same level?

Originally posted by Pesala:

Twice a year is frequent enough for major version updates, so December 2012 would be quite soon enough for Opera 12.50.

Not really. They can release 12.50 by end of October without any major issues.

Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

They can release 12.50 by end of October without any major issues.

That sounds about right — for the beta release, which would allow two months or ten weeks to fix any major issues before the final in December.

We also need an extension to replace the features in Opera Unite, and that will need to be tested.

Originally posted by Pesala:

That sounds about right — for the beta release

Last week of September - plenty of time unless they want to include some major improvements to HWA and WebGL.

Another problem with correct displaying of images on this page. http://sport.aktuality.sk/

http://i50.tinypic.com/beaebk.jpg

Maybe someone can add others with similar issue to confirm this problem.

found a new bug:

go to youtube -> open video -> let play -> click outside flash content to loose focus on flash -> press f11 for full screen -> flash player is now fixed in upper left corner and you can scroll through the page in background.

W7x64 Opera 12.02 x64 Flash x64

@olli - can this issue please get addressed:
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1442852

Would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

Originally posted by minho:

Page layout is broken.
http://discoverydocs.net/

Fedora 17 x32, webgl and hwa off

looks perfect like and same as in IE on W7x64

Originally posted by semtexxl:

Another problem with correct displaying of images on this page. http://sport.aktuality.sk/

http://i50.tinypic.com/beaebk.jpg

Maybe someone can add others with similar issue to confirm this problem.

cannot see what's incorrect?

Originally posted by Unrealmirakulix:

Originally posted by minho:
Page layout is broken.http://discoverydocs.net/Fedora 17 x32, webgl and hwa off

looks perfect like and same as in IE on W7x64

on 12.02 or 12.50?
on 12.50 the site looks ok, but it looks wrong on 12.02.

edit:
it's a linux specific bug
on Fedora 17 x32 the site is broken on 12.02 and on 12.50
on Ubuntu 12.04 amd64 (Opera x64) the site is broken on 12.02 but it's ok on 12.50.
on win 7 x64 the site looks ok on 12.02 and on 12.50.

Sites ware never tested on Linux.
Try http://tvgorge.com/ broken head, but looks fine on Win.

"close page" button does not work.
http://www.imagebam.com/image/b0abae168017115

win 7 x64, x64 build

high cpu usage, Opera becomes very slow.
http://thechive.com/2012/08/09/who-knew-mugshots-could-be-so-attractive-20-photos/

win 7 x64, x64 build, E2140 cpu

Originally posted by minho:

unusable on Fedora 17 x32 yet. Many NSL!
When I reload a NSL pege sometimes the badge disappears from the address field.
http://my.opera.com/minho/albums/showpic.dml?album=6005422&picture=155472602">http://files.myopera.com/minho/albums/6005422/Captura%20de%20tela%20de%202012-06-01%2013%3A58%3A37.png" alt="" />

Example sites?

Suggestion.

Add:
- fade-in effect to tabs when they are opening.
- fade-out effect to tabs when they are closing.

And please add support for "Extensions" to "Opera Link".

Just the same as extension sync support like do we have in Google Chrome.

Originally posted by olli:

Originally posted by fmbb:

Originally posted by olli:

Originally posted by alekksander:

decided to finally upgrade my 11.64 into this build (since OOP is out) and... i realized how bad scrolling is in 12.02... any fixes for that? tips or future builds?(plugins on demand are always enabled).
whole update procedure went with no problem, no data is lost, all settings here... but this scrolling.. how can it not be considered as regression? it's really bad! almost like on one of other browsers out there... please opera team, fix this and give us back smooth scrolling we are used to.

Can you give example sites where scrolling is horrible please?

sites with fixed/floating elements
ie. facebook (top bar, chat)

That works better for you in 12.5 snapshots right? Does for me

yes, 12.5 scroll is better here but worse on flash sites

Originally posted by fmbb:

Originally posted by olli:

Originally posted by fmbb:

Originally posted by olli:

Originally posted by alekksander:

decided to finally upgrade my 11.64 into this build (since OOP is out) and... i realized how bad scrolling is in 12.02... any fixes for that? tips or future builds?(plugins on demand are always enabled).
whole update procedure went with no problem, no data is lost, all settings here... but this scrolling.. how can it not be considered as regression? it's really bad! almost like on one of other browsers out there... please opera team, fix this and give us back smooth scrolling we are used to.

Can you give example sites where scrolling is horrible please?

sites with fixed/floating elements
ie. facebook (top bar, chat)

That works better for you in 12.5 snapshots right? Does for me

yes, 12.5 scroll is better here but worse on flash sites

Yes, but thats because we havent reverted oopp on 12.5 yet :-)

Originally posted by olli:

Example sites?

This blog.
NSL happens randomly here.

plug-in wrapper process randomly crashes on win 7 x64 running Opera x64.

Originally posted by cnicog:

Are you guys going to fix this small annoying UI bug?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d65cs4k2siocd14/ui.jpg

Shouldn't they be at the same level?

old ui bug
panels really dont need all that vertical space so this could be fixed moving it under address bar
http://postimage.org/image/du1obb0j7/

this would prevent address bar shrinkage and future skin padding issues

about old ui bug here is another
http://postimage.org/image/wvb44t9pv/

and finally the new tab - close tab transformation
http://postimage.org/image/nj6sbvgqb/

not related to this release but this things must be fixed some day

Originally posted by minho:

"close page" button does not work.
http://www.imagebam.com/image/b0abae168017115

win 7 x64, x64 build

it does 12.02 x64 Win7x64

Opera almost always killing autosave.win and autosave.win.bak in "powerdown - reboot - start Opera" situation.

When autosave.win is erased in powerdown, Opera after start also kills autosave.win.bak instead of loading it.

Originally posted by fmbb:

about old ui bug here is another

more ui bug.
icons from skin are not visible when I use dark GTK3 theme on linux.
http://files.myopera.com/minho/albums/6005422/darkthemesandicons.png

ubuntu 12.04 amd64, x64 build, hwa off

one more ui bug...
open a download link (Opera snapshots for example) from the feedreader in background.
Result: save dialog is not centered on screen.
http://files.myopera.com/minho/albums/6005422/savedialog.png

https://www.coursera.org/ not working in any version of opera. Site is not loading at all. Can you check it?

Originally posted by pursanovd:

https://www.coursera.org/ not working in any version of opera. Site is not loading at all. Can you check it?

It loads here... using opera 12.01...