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Preparing for Windows 8

By Blazej Kazmierczakbkazmierczak. Monday, September 3, 2012 12:15:36 PM

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Hello. With the release of Windows 8 getting closer by the day, we are making changes to Opera so that it works nicely with the new Windows feature set. Our initial effort is on improving "classic" desktop support, specifically by putting more attention on touch devices. From now on you should be able to scroll and move web pages and elements in Opera UI using touch. This includes touch zoom and inertial scrolling. yes As an extra bonus touch support should also work on Windows 7.

We are eager to find any issues you experience with this snapshot when operating a Windows 7/8 based touch device. Be aware that more work on touch support is ongoing, so we may be able to include your feedback in a future build.

Known Issues (see also known issues from previous snapshots):
  • DSK-372904 Shaky scrolling in open mail message.
  • DSK-372747 Prevent from opening links unintentionally when performing other touch gestures

WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

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Changelog
Desktop
  • [Windows 7/8] Add support for pinch to zoom
  • [Windows 7/8] Add support for Inertia scrolling of UI
  • [Windows 7/8] Add support for Inertia page scrolling
  • [Windows 7/8] Add support for touch based drag and drop of UI elements - with inertia wink
  • DSK-371969 Crash on selecting priority in mail compose
  • DSK-263963 Tabbed thumbnails preferences set in Preferences not used until restart
  • DSK-352462 Star Menu is not closed in one click after opening Folders
  • DSK-366898 No context menu for bookmarks
  • DSK-370637 [Mac] View Source should use monospace font
  • DSK-371043 Opera will crash if you confirm to delete an RSS feed which is already deleted (but you have opened multiple dialogs)
  • DSK-369325 Dragging and dropping selected text containing links opens new tabs
  • DSK-372113 Opera crashes if dragging a tab into a stack which contains another stack
  • Fixed a memory leak related to thumbnail display

Opera 12.02 security and stability releaseYet another snapshot

Comments

I need a namequangltm Monday, September 3, 2012 2:55:41 PM

My time is now...

senseysensor Monday, September 3, 2012 2:58:20 PM

Thanks!

QuHno Monday, September 3, 2012 2:58:43 PM

Is there support for mouse to touch conversion too?

Ar1Pear1pe Monday, September 3, 2012 3:00:22 PM

bigsmile Beautiful

iosaddict Monday, September 3, 2012 3:07:31 PM

Thanks!!

Yogurth Monday, September 3, 2012 3:13:11 PM

Oh! No fixes for freezing in various situations?

blackcoder Monday, September 3, 2012 3:13:30 PM

Nice work. smile

Martin KadlecBS-Harou Monday, September 3, 2012 3:23:08 PM

This is great! I hope it means that touch events and device orientation APIs are coming to Opera desktop soon as well!

tim71 Monday, September 3, 2012 3:28:06 PM

Seemingly Linux users still have crashing plugins.

oracle2b Monday, September 3, 2012 3:30:48 PM

What about dragging and dropping multiple links from the link panel to the file manager in linux?

Christophchristoph142 Monday, September 3, 2012 3:32:56 PM

Our initial effort is on improving "classic" desktop support

That sounds like you're cooking something App-like in your cellar-kitchen. Looking forward to it cheers

edit: this build has problems with lost extension preferences just as previous versions do

Win 8 final x64

olli Monday, September 3, 2012 3:39:38 PM

Originally posted by tim71:

Seemingly Linux users still have crashing plugins.



Will be fixed soon

ПавелGemorroj Monday, September 3, 2012 3:44:47 PM

Originally posted by christoph142:

this build has problems with lost extension preferences just as previous versions do


bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug

mubaidr Monday, September 3, 2012 3:48:36 PM

No fixes for SPDY connection lost and NSL issues sad

disabling SPDY everything works fine, no NSL

minho Monday, September 3, 2012 4:03:23 PM

Originally posted by mubaidr:

disabling SPDY everything works fine, no NSL


How can I disable SPDY? I have many stupid NSLs on linux.

ahoj1234 Monday, September 3, 2012 4:06:06 PM

Originally posted by minho:

Originally posted by mubaidr:

disabling SPDY everything works fine, no NSL

How can I disable SPDY? I have many stupid NSLs on linux.


opera:config#Network|UseSpdy2
opera:config#Network|UseSpdy3

I hope this is it..

PS: NSL was here before SPDY I dont think that all these NSL bugs are caused by SPDY

olli Monday, September 3, 2012 4:06:13 PM

Originally posted by minho:

Originally posted by mubaidr:

disabling SPDY everything works fine, no NSL


How can I disable SPDY? I have many stupid NSLs on linux.

We have fixed a bad nsl regression internally which is not related to SPDY, so no reason to disable.

rseiler Monday, September 3, 2012 4:11:02 PM

Is Opera now expected to be able to add itself to the Default Programs list in Win8?

minho Monday, September 3, 2012 4:12:21 PM

Originally posted by olli:

We have fixed a bad nsl regression internally which is not related to SPDY, so no reason to disable.


Good news! Will this fix be included on next 12.50 snapshot?

tenplus1 Monday, September 3, 2012 4:18:41 PM

This build is still not remembering AdBlock extension preferences which I have to re-do on each run...

Also, flash plugin still does not work and crashes on run (snotr, youtube, newgrounds etc.)

mubaidr Monday, September 3, 2012 4:34:01 PM

Originally posted by olli:

We have fixed a bad nsl regression internally which is not related to SPDY, so no reason to disable.



Yes, it seems to work fine now, strange! So fix is included in this build? why not listed if it is included. bigeyes

Christianc1973 Monday, September 3, 2012 4:47:31 PM

Facebook profile pictures don't have a transparent gradient in Version 12.5x, there is just a black bar.

led9 Monday, September 3, 2012 4:53:05 PM

http://s003.radikal.ru/i202/1209/71/42a7a631a2b0.png

Now you can choose from two addresses, and see one!
how to increase the number of visible lines?
(not want scroll!!)

Christophchristoph142 Monday, September 3, 2012 4:55:13 PM

Originally posted by c1973:

Facebook profile pictures don't have a gradient in Version 12.5x, there is just a black bar.

It's because Facebook is using "background-image:-o-linear-gradient(bottom, #f0f0f0, #fff);"
The newest specification states, that it's supposed to be "background-image:-o-linear-gradient(to bottom, #f0f0f0, #fff);" and Opera is VERY strict and IMHO pretty specific using the new standard (since they implemented support for the aforementioned with the -moz-prefix instead of -o- ) doh

minho Monday, September 3, 2012 4:56:22 PM

High cpu usage on many sites becomes this build unusable on my win 7 x64.
Opera x64, hwa and webgl off

olli Monday, September 3, 2012 4:58:40 PM

Originally posted by mubaidr:

Originally posted by olli:

We have fixed a bad nsl regression internally which is not related to SPDY, so no reason to disable.



Yes, it seems to work fine now, strange! So fix is included in this build? why not listed if it is included. bigeyes

Its not included in this snapshot, if will be eventually go out.. but not necessarily in next snapshot

Francesco De Domenicofrankdd89 Monday, September 3, 2012 5:11:45 PM

"Initial support" ? So we can expect more? smile

nimu_channimuchan Monday, September 3, 2012 5:22:23 PM

Thank you very much!!smile

GregorW Monday, September 3, 2012 5:23:06 PM

Speed dial: drag and drop operation is triggered by middle and right button after moving the mouse by as little as one pixel. Apparently, SM_CXDRAG/SM_CYDRAG system metrics are ignored. Left button works as expected.

VasjaVasja72 Monday, September 3, 2012 5:30:49 PM

A blur radius (1-16px or 0.1-0.5em) in text-shadow property is not work.

farll Monday, September 3, 2012 5:32:04 PM

When bild on debian repo updated??

Christianc1973 Monday, September 3, 2012 5:34:00 PM

Originally posted by christoph142:

It's because Facebook is using "background-image:-o-linear-gradient(bottom, #f0f0f0, #fff);"
The newest specification states, that it's supposed to be "background-image:-o-linear-gradient(to bottom, #f0f0f0, #fff);" and Opera is VERY strict and IMHO pretty specific using the new standard (since they implemented support for the aforementioned with the -moz-prefix instead of -o- )



Ok, thanks, I put the following in my user stylesheet:

background: linear-gradient(to bottom, transparent, rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.702)) transparent

Results in a gradient as it was with older Opera versions.

Christophchristoph142 Monday, September 3, 2012 5:40:51 PM

Originally posted by c1973:

Ok, thanks, I put the following in my user stylesheet:

background: linear-gradient(to bottom, transparent, rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.702)) transparent


Originally posted by http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-images/#linear-gradients:

The first argument to the function specifies the gradient line, which gives the gradient a direction and determines how color-stops are positioned. It may be omitted; if so, it defaults to ‘to bottom’.

You should theoretically be able to drop the "(to) bottom" completely. AFAIR it didn't work in Opera. You may try it nonetheless. What will definitely work is
background: linear-gradient(180deg, transparent, rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.702)) transparent

So you can prevent future problems (if the spec should change again) wink

Darko Pantićpdarko Monday, September 3, 2012 5:41:21 PM

[dare@arch opera-next-12.50-1580.i386.linux]$ ./opera-next 
Illegal instruction
[dare@arch opera-next-12.50-1580.i386.linux]$

minho Monday, September 3, 2012 6:02:32 PM

I cant disable speed dial search field.
Can anyone confirm?

Opera x64, hwa and webgl off, clean install

Ghirahimghirahim Monday, September 3, 2012 6:02:51 PM

Originally posted by christoph142:

this build has problems with lost extension preferences just as previous versions do



Yup, very annoying.

Benjaminvivabrevis Monday, September 3, 2012 6:31:28 PM

Great work.
But since the last version and now in the latest,
why is the cursor no more automatically active when opening a new tab?
After opening a new tab I now have to click with the mouse in the address field so I can type the address?

Charles SchlossChas4 Monday, September 3, 2012 6:47:52 PM

https://twitter.com/ when logged in scrolling down to the bottom, cause a Opera cpu spike when it loads more tweets at the bottom of the page



OS X 10.7.4 x64

NeXaen Monday, September 3, 2012 7:04:26 PM

and what about this bug number (CORE-46753) Blazej Kazmierczak ?

BogdanMbuggymi Monday, September 3, 2012 7:05:11 PM

Originally posted by ghirahim:

Originally posted by christoph142:

this build has problems with lost extension preferences just as previous versions do



Yup, very annoying.

Confirmed! Win 7 SP1 x86

PengePenge4 Monday, September 3, 2012 7:19:51 PM

Originally posted by GregorW:

Speed dial: drag and drop operation is triggered by middle and right button after moving the mouse by as little as one pixel.


Confirmed (Win7 x64 Opera x64)

Kirilljarinkirill Monday, September 3, 2012 7:46:16 PM

In file download dialog it's impossible to open file with metro application ever if it's default for this file type. Is it known?

D1sasterp1ece Monday, September 3, 2012 8:09:21 PM

DSK-372113 Opera crashes if dragging a tab into a stack which contains another stack


A stack cannot contain another stack, as far as I know. But yeah, I can confirm that with the previous snapshot, dragging a stack onto another stack may cause a crash. Other than that, there sill is some delay between clicking a Speed Dial and actually opening the page. I just noticed that the same delay is sometimes present when clicking an address field item (in the dropdown) or an item from 'Go to page', which is largely annoying. Dragonfly still has some issues with detecting the active tab with multiple windows (http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1515322), though I don't have explicit reproduction steps for a bug report. I've got issues with the 'Default Mail Settings' menu (look at this: http://i.imgur.com/cQPYy.jpg).

Lycus HackerEmoLycusHackerEmo Monday, September 3, 2012 8:13:08 PM

Flash has crashed

Opera 12.50 -- 1580
Fedora 17 64 bits

helsten2 Monday, September 3, 2012 8:21:37 PM

Live TV does not work anymore:
http://tv.nrk.no/direkte/nrk1

Win7 x64 Opera x64

Cawingtoncawington Monday, September 3, 2012 8:28:46 PM

DSK-372792
The problem still exists!!p

Mağruf ÇolakoğluZAHEK Monday, September 3, 2012 9:03:29 PM

It seems you work hard again. Testing...

Blazej Kazmierczakbkazmierczak Monday, September 3, 2012 9:16:39 PM

Originally posted by frankdd89:

"Initial support" ? So we can expect more? smile


Exactly.bigsmile

Blazej Kazmierczakbkazmierczak Monday, September 3, 2012 9:19:42 PM

Originally posted by buggymi:

Originally posted by ghirahim:

Originally posted by christoph142:

this build has problems with lost extension preferences just as previous versions do



Yup, very annoying.



Confirmed!

Win 7 SP1 x86

Ok ok.. We know it already, should be fixed soon. bigsmile

Swarnendu Biswasswarnendubiswas Monday, September 3, 2012 9:47:01 PM

Shockwave flash player crashes continuously on every web page that I visit. This is happening since build 1577, and I am on a RHEL 6.2.

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