Opera Desktop Team

Accelerated process

By Huib Kleinhouthuibk. Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:10:07 AM

This spring we are doing everything a bit different. Firstly we have staffed up our desktop engineering team with a large number of great engineers. This means we are moving faster than ever before. Secondly, as you know, we are undertaking some massive changes to the platform integration that will give significant improvements for all three desktop platforms. The current estimates for the remaining work for Opera 10.50, however, indicates that we will reach final product quality earlier on Windows than on the other platforms. As such, we have decided to not let Windows users wait for the other platforms to catch up, and rather push it out earlier than the rest. You will notice this in the near future as we will reach the beta milestone for Windows, while Mac and Linux will reach beta around the time Opera 10.50 reaches final on Windows. When the Windows version hits final we will focus our attention on bringing the other platforms to the same quality as soon as possible. We also expect this to be an exception from how we work, meaning we will once again ship final versions for all platforms at the same time in the future.

Return of the penguin and Widgets for Desktop
This snapshot contains a new core update with a large number of fixes for regressions. Many features in 10.50 are more stable or work again like in 10.10. Widgets will also run as standalone applications again, as previewed in 10.20 alpha. And finally, Linux builds are back!

Other highlights:
  • Upgraded Carakan engine
  • Search box enhancements
  • Bookmark fixes
  • Improved stability
  • Restructuring of the Opera menu
  • Return of UNIX builds


Changelog since the last snapshot

User Interface
  • Fixed DSK-276636 (The skin-entry "clearbackground=1" doesn't work for important sections of the skin under all tabbar positions.)
  • Fixed DSK-272284 (Animations sometimes stall, until something else is repainted)
  • Fixed DSK-273383 (Allow [Startbar Skin], [Cycler Window Skin] and [Thumbnail Widget Skin] to have transparent backgrounds)
  • Fixed DSK-273381 (Create a title bar skin in dialog pop-ups to allow seperate skinning)
  • Fixed DSK-274296 ("Save password?" buttons' labels are unreadable, they are white on beige background.)
  • Fixed DSK-269973 (Shortcut for opening Quick Preferences doesn't work)
  • Fixed DSK-274548 (No copy on right click within notes)
  • Fixed DSK-270711 (Mouse gestures on links do not work)
  • Fixed DSK-273596 (Right click -> Open with does not pass page URL when opening other browsers)
  • Fixed DSK-274249 (File input's context menu shows document context menu)
  • Fixed DSK-274503 (Context menu doesn't work in Dialogs)
  • Fixed DSK-276438 (Copy text option is missing from the context menu)
  • Fixed DSK-119010 (Opera doesn't allow access to longdesc="..." URLs)
  • Fixed DSK-274895 (When Download dialog comes up, if you change tab and go back to the download dialog it becomes all white)
  • Fixed DSK-276459 (can't open 'Manage search engines' by keyboard)
  • Fixed DSK-273855 (Bold tags become visible if you type an angle braket in the search field)
  • Fixed DSK-273857 (Active search engine listed twice in search autocompletion dropdown)
  • Fixed DSK-273513 (Create Search is displayed twice)
  • Fixed DSK-273936 (using 'previous search' doesn't update 'current' search engine)
  • Fixed DSK-276104 (after deleting 'previous search' item, next one not shown as first item in list)
  • Fixed DSK-275538 (crash when moving a bookmark)
  • Fixed DSK-273158 (Bookmarks from pre 10.50 are not recognized)
  • Fixed DSK-274163 (Crash with link and bookmarks)
  • Fixed DSK-276026 (Adding bookmark twice replaces bookmark even if url is changed)
  • Fixed DSK-274231 (Date formatting for Bookmarks inconsistent)
  • Fixed DSK-271120 (Bookmark folders open/closed status isn't restored on restart)
  • Fixed DSK-274345 (Opera Link fails after adding a separator)
  • Fixed DSK-274200 (Deleted nickname bookmarks show up in address field)
  • Fixed DSK-275851 (When managing bookmarks Cut acts as delete)
  • Fixed DSK-274443 (opera uses from 70-100% cpu usage on startup when loaded with my bookmarks)
  • Fixed DSK-276014 (Bookmarks in addressbar dropdown don't update after changing bookmark properties)
  • Fixed DSK-274385 (Links can't be dragged to the personal bar)
  • Fixed DSK-275645 (bookmarks added with drag&drop from addressbar not saved)
  • Fixed broken skin on search dropdowns
  • Fixed so text in the widest item isn't clipped at the end in dropdowns
  • Fixed so native skin for dropdowns use the rounded background and so the rounded button aligns to it
  • Fixed, dropdowns in toolbars get the same height as editfields (and same alignment)
  • Fix for transparent margins when using full transparency
  • Fix for re-enabling system menu when extended aero effect is set back to normal
  • Further search box enhancements
  • Search dim effect opacity becomes a preference
  • Show a arrow in the addressfield that brings up previously typed url dropdown
  • Activate restored tab when clicking the tab chrome
  • Disabled smooth dragging of tabs when wrapped layout is used as it doesn't work across multiple lines
  • Set the active state on tab chrome for active restored windows
  • Added maximize button to tab chrome on restored tabs
  • Better fix for the statusbar background skin
  • New icons
  • Moved the panel toggle to the status bar
  • Removed panel button on addressbar
  • New structure of the Opera Menu

Core
  • Upgraded Core and Carakan: Incorporating many bug and crash fixes!
  • Fixed CORE-27080 (Starting Dragonfly causes 10.50 to crash)
  • Fixed CORE-27094 (Fix gestures triggerring unreliably)
  • Fixed CORE-26248 (Crashfix for speeddial still loading on exit)

Mail
  • Fixed DSK-261896 (Opera freezes and on restart there are lots of ghost feed items in my unread box)
  • Fixed DSK-277444 (mail import from Opera 10 POP or IMAP only gets settings, not messages)
  • Fixed DSK-273323 ("No message selected" text missing)
  • Fixed DSK-277230 (Saving (Save as) a message as an .mbs file doesn't do anything)
  • Fixed DSK-277364 (mail data not removed on deleting account)
  • Fixed DSK-277414 (new mail accounts set to 'queue outgoing messages' by default)
  • Fixed DSK-277413 (wrong context menu for compose window)
  • Fixed DSK-275431 (mailto URIs are not percent-decoded into the compose window properly)
  • Fixed DSK-275430 (shift + up/down loops selection to other end of mail message list)
  • Fixed DSK-274781 (contacts added again and again)

Widgets
  • Widgets for Desktop return!

Windows
  • Fixed DSK-266018 (Middle-click panning doesn't work)

Mac
  • Various Cocoa improvments
  • Support for enabling transparency on the top only

Unix
  • Incorporates all fixes from previous (Windows and Mac snapshots)
  • Crashfixes and improved stability
  • Fixed DSK-262035 (Fonts sometimes disappear within webpages)
  • Fixed DSK-274112 (Popup windows are modal, and they shouldn't be)
  • Fixed DSK-274987 (Need to press TAB button twice to switch tab)
  • The 'near future' arrived p

Known issues
  • Freeze on right clicking link and choosing "Save linked content as"
  • Menu icons missing on Windows
  • Javascript regression that makes Facebook unusable
  • Some features of Widgets for Desktop don't work correctly on Unix and Mac

Don't forget to report bugs in the bug wizard. Any particular we're interested in reports about https connection problems.

Downloads

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Comments

BS-Harou Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:18:56 PM

First party

My list of bugs in this build: http://my.opera.com/BS-Harou/blog/opera-10-5-b3216-bugs

ЕвгенийOneginUA Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:19:25 PM

Good snx wink

Galileo Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:20:10 PM

party spock

SardorbekpROCKrammer Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:20:55 PM

party Facebook broken )

Teuntweeny Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:21:02 PM

good build, keep up the good work

But I'm still hoping for customizable search engines, like in firefox

Marcinmtrusz Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:25:41 PM

Great, but what about a new feature mentioned last week?

masterofopera Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:26:42 PM

Jipee.

we have still leeched ( http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/continued-stabilization?startidx=550#comments ) it via forceful browsing
(you were to slow in posting bigsmile )

Edit(h): says I play with this build

XT-G Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:28:24 PM

Can't save pictures, torrents, etc. Opera freeze. down

Kai OckendorfOckendorf Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:29:08 PM

Thx for a new toy (Build) to play with...bigsmile

MichailNTMan Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:31:07 PM

Good build, but:
- JNES with sound still in 2 time's slow than Google Chrome.
- Opera still have problem's with key mapping. Please see test page. (DSK-276396)
- This build couldn't run under Windows NT 4.0. When Opera start, pop's message
But I deleted previouse profile. (DSK-277897)

kimyu92 Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:32:30 PM

Thx for a new build

BUG:
facebook crash.....whole page blank xcept the "header"

BS-Harou Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:33:43 PM

Originally posted by kimyu92:

facebook crash.....whole page blank xcept the "header"



Originally posted by pROCKrammer:

Facebook broken )



Please, always read the Known Issues before posting

"Javascript regression that makes Facebook unusable"

Ferrisferrisnox Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:33:51 PM

I"m stunned, this represents a huge amount of work guys. Nice Job!

itsfresh Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:34:38 PM

yupiii!!

Tri M. NguyenTriMN Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:35:11 PM

Originally posted by huibk:

Such we have decided to not let Windows users wait for the other platforms to catch up and rather push it out earlier than the rest. You will notice this in the near future as as we will reach the beta milestone for Windows, while Mac and Linux will reach beta around the time Opera 10.50 reaches final on Windows.



... aw sad

Else, keep up the good work smile

MyOpera team, please fix this!fearphage Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:35:23 PM

I'm not sure if it's just me or my native skin, but it's not finding any of my icons. I saw this:

Originally posted by desktopteam:

Menu icons missing on Windows

but I'm referring to toolbar icons. All the icons in my skin are being ignored and all the defaults are being used.
All the visible images are favicons. All the text is because Opera can't find fallbacks for the icons in the skin. Here is an excerpt from the toolbar.ini:
Button9, "Open in IE"="Execute program, "iexplore", "%u", "Open in IE", "Ie""
Button10, "Open in Safari"="Execute program, "safari", "%u", "Open in Safari", "Safari""
Button11, "Open in Chrome"="Execute program, "chrome", "%u", "Open in Chrome", "Chrome""
Button12, "Open in Firefox"="Execute program, "firefox", "%u", "Open in FF", "Firefox""


Re: Widgets are back
Is it planned that there will be no way to remove the widget icon and space it consumes from the address bar?

Originally posted by kimyu92:

facebook crash.....whole page blank xcept the "header"

Please try reading next time

Originally posted by Known issues:

Javascript regression that makes Facebook unusable


MariuszMariuszWWA Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:36:08 PM

no ppc-linux version... again sad

tell me WHY!?

FreeBrain Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:36:56 PM

@Phred

Want to erase the widgets button?

Click on the + button in the panel and uncheck widgets...

Pitiphong PhongpattranontDeathscytheSephiroth Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:37:25 PM

I still can't use middle click and hold right click and scroll to switch the tab on Mac build which these is the most (old) features I want now >.<

LLiam Garnerliga2r Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:38:03 PM

OOoooh... another snapshot. bigsmile

EDIT: skipping... bah... maybe next one is usable. cry

Abhishek ThakurAbhishek9102 Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:38:43 PM

i didn't wait for the post and tried the build already up

Zotlan Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:40:59 PM

Originally posted by DeathscytheSephiroth:

I still can't use middle click and hold right click and scroll to switch the tab on Mac build


same on linux.

Tri M. NguyenTriMN Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:45:00 PM

Single-key shortcuts don't work with standard keyboard setup. Have to switch to Opera 9.2 compatible.

Domdom0410 Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:45:04 PM

Just tried to book some train tickets through First Great Western and the stupid Verified by Visa page came up. I typed in my password and tried to click on submit but this made the entire page just freeze and nothing was clickable. I had to go back a page, forwards again to the Verified by Visa page and press enter rather than clicking on submit after typing in my password. Always worked fine with 10.10.

Vista SP2

Espenher Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:46:04 PM

Middleclicking to open a link in a new tab still isn't working properly on the mac build. That is the only thing that stops me from testing 10.5 on a daily basis. Without this, I have to change all my browsing habits.

If you could pleeease fix this, I would be happy and can totally live with daily crashes p

And a windows-version before the mac-build. Meh.. I guess the windows-users still is the majority p Hopefully you can talk some sense into Apple so we get a version for iPhone and the new iPad as well smile

Pinha24pinhaomega24 Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:46:26 PM

@Sardorbek, @MVE, @kimyu92 :
Known isuues, read the blog post people :/

thanks for the snapshot, seem quite stable
wink

SardorbekpROCKrammer Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:46:45 PM

is there any screenshot?

WebRiderwebrider Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:50:07 PM

Search dim effect opacity becomes a preference

nice

Widgets for Desktop return!

rip

"C:\klient\opera_profile.txt"
Why (and what) browser writes to this file?

Rafał MiłeckiZajec Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:51:29 PM

Wow, saturnday surprise for Linux, thanks! smile

DemoJameson Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:51:39 PM

up

Daniel HendrycksDanielHendrycks Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:52:18 PM

yes

Negridenkind Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:53:49 PM

cool thing!!

Qbikqbik13 Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:55:28 PM

How Can I block something on site?

I can't find on menu block content sad

nimu_channimuchan Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:58:29 PM

I'm wait for this !!
Thank you !!

TA5K Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:58:46 PM

Originally posted by webrider:

Search dim effect opacity becomes a preference

nice

Nice, but numpad "/" still isn't useable as quicksearch option sad

Danieledarklink88 Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:58:59 PM

Originally posted by BS-Harou:

Such we have decided to not let Windows users wait for the other platforms to catch up and rather push it out earlier than the rest. You will notice this in the near future as as we will reach the beta milestone for Windows, while Mac and Linux will reach beta around the time Opera 10.50 reaches final on Windows


awww
...i think this choice is linked to what will happen on March, 17th http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/2010/01/20/an-era-of-choice-begins-in-march bigsmile

Ruarí Ødegaardruario Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:02:11 PM

Originally posted by MariuszWWA:

no ppc-linux version... again :frown:
tell me WHY!?



It has been said publicly a before but I'll repeat it again, "Carakan needs more work to run on PowerPC".

Qbikqbik13 Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:06:00 PM

Can You add option to add "Opera turbo" button to Address bar?

Aaron Tothaaront Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:07:33 PM

Where can I find the transparency setting for Mac?

"Support for enabling transparency on the top only"

Andylee Satomichaelpuermayr Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:09:09 PM

I think it is the right way to release the Windows version as soon as possible, because the growing Win7-Mass is really missing Jumpbar-Support and not having this makes a BIG minus in trying to convince somebody of Opera. :-(

Michael Pürmayr
OCC Vienna

Pitiphong PhongpattranontDeathscytheSephiroth Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:10:02 PM

Ohhh and Command+` to switch cycle through application windows in Mac still don't work

firstnight Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:10:25 PM

"Bookmark fixes"

Incompletely fixed as yet on WinVista Home Basic. Build 3216 still imports a false trash folder [with standard folder icon] from 10.10 which cannot be deleted but shows a document context menu when right-clicked. You're getting closer, but correct function still may require the user to manually rewrite the Trash entries in Bookmarks.ini

Is it no longer possible to import adr files? I don't recall seeing that mentioned in the developer's starter comments in any of the snapshots published.

Arguggi Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:13:00 PM

So the "there might be a new feature next week too" refers to? Widgets?

Thanks for fixing url address in bottom left corner, it was driving me mad.

Sirtuiini Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:13:46 PM

Great to have middle click panning back up

Found some bugs with mouse gestures:
-Gesture down (new tab) on a web page creates new blank page instead of speed dial but the gesture on blank page or speed dial creates new speed dial.
-Gesture down-up (copy page to another tab) creates blank page.

NicoHellbillyDeluxe Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:19:26 PM

I really love the new look of the statusbar, great job on this smile

But I don't like the look of the menu. Can you make it look natively on Windows 7/Vista? Same goes for the menu bar, which I don't use, but it needs a refresh, too.

One more thing: When will "opera:" pages have the default Opera 10 look again?


Anyway: Thank you for a great new Build!


Robert MeijersRobert90 Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:19:37 PM

The current estimates for the remaining work for Opera 10.50 indicates however that we will reach final product quality earlier on Windows than on the other platforms.


Final before March (read: before browser ballot screen)? smile And seems logical, because you want to release it before the browser ballot screen arrives, and you don't have different architectures to account for (read: no powerpc needed for Carakan). And you probably just have more people working in the Windows team as in the Unix or Mac team.

Return of UNIX builds


Great cool

Tamil Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:20:13 PM

Originally posted by huibk:

we are moving faster than ever before.

JoonasZounas Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:20:42 PM

Originally posted by Sirtuiini:

Found some bugs with mouse gestures



First thing I noticed was that FlipBack and FlipForward are switched.

Daniel HendrycksDanielHendrycks Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:26:13 PM

Great, my list of bugs in 10.5 is slimmed down dramatically. happy

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