My Opera
Accelerated process
By Huib Kleinhouthuibk. Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:10:07 AM
This spring we are doing everything a bit different. Firstly we have staffed up our desktop engineering team with a large number of great engineers. This means we are moving faster than ever before. Secondly, as you know, we are undertaking some massive changes to the platform integration that will give significant improvements for all three desktop platforms. The current estimates for the remaining work for Opera 10.50, however, indicates that we will reach final product quality earlier on Windows than on the other platforms. As such, we have decided to not let Windows users wait for the other platforms to catch up, and rather push it out earlier than the rest. You will notice this in the near future as we will reach the beta milestone for Windows, while Mac and Linux will reach beta around the time Opera 10.50 reaches final on Windows. When the Windows version hits final we will focus our attention on bringing the other platforms to the same quality as soon as possible. We also expect this to be an exception from how we work, meaning we will once again ship final versions for all platforms at the same time in the future.
Return of the penguin and Widgets for Desktop
This snapshot contains a new core update with a large number of fixes for regressions. Many features in 10.50 are more stable or work again like in 10.10. Widgets will also run as standalone applications again, as previewed in 10.20 alpha. And finally, Linux builds are back!
Other highlights:
Return of the penguin and Widgets for Desktop
This snapshot contains a new core update with a large number of fixes for regressions. Many features in 10.50 are more stable or work again like in 10.10. Widgets will also run as standalone applications again, as previewed in 10.20 alpha. And finally, Linux builds are back!
Other highlights:
- Upgraded Carakan engine
- Search box enhancements
- Bookmark fixes
- Improved stability
- Restructuring of the Opera menu
- Return of UNIX builds
Changelog since the last snapshot
User Interface
- Fixed DSK-276636 (The skin-entry "clearbackground=1" doesn't work for important sections of the skin under all tabbar positions.)
- Fixed DSK-272284 (Animations sometimes stall, until something else is repainted)
- Fixed DSK-273383 (Allow [Startbar Skin], [Cycler Window Skin] and [Thumbnail Widget Skin] to have transparent backgrounds)
- Fixed DSK-273381 (Create a title bar skin in dialog pop-ups to allow seperate skinning)
- Fixed DSK-274296 ("Save password?" buttons' labels are unreadable, they are white on beige background.)
- Fixed DSK-269973 (Shortcut for opening Quick Preferences doesn't work)
- Fixed DSK-274548 (No copy on right click within notes)
- Fixed DSK-270711 (Mouse gestures on links do not work)
- Fixed DSK-273596 (Right click -> Open with does not pass page URL when opening other browsers)
- Fixed DSK-274249 (File input's context menu shows document context menu)
- Fixed DSK-274503 (Context menu doesn't work in Dialogs)
- Fixed DSK-276438 (Copy text option is missing from the context menu)
- Fixed DSK-119010 (Opera doesn't allow access to longdesc="..." URLs)
- Fixed DSK-274895 (When Download dialog comes up, if you change tab and go back to the download dialog it becomes all white)
- Fixed DSK-276459 (can't open 'Manage search engines' by keyboard)
- Fixed DSK-273855 (Bold tags become visible if you type an angle braket in the search field)
- Fixed DSK-273857 (Active search engine listed twice in search autocompletion dropdown)
- Fixed DSK-273513 (Create Search is displayed twice)
- Fixed DSK-273936 (using 'previous search' doesn't update 'current' search engine)
- Fixed DSK-276104 (after deleting 'previous search' item, next one not shown as first item in list)
- Fixed DSK-275538 (crash when moving a bookmark)
- Fixed DSK-273158 (Bookmarks from pre 10.50 are not recognized)
- Fixed DSK-274163 (Crash with link and bookmarks)
- Fixed DSK-276026 (Adding bookmark twice replaces bookmark even if url is changed)
- Fixed DSK-274231 (Date formatting for Bookmarks inconsistent)
- Fixed DSK-271120 (Bookmark folders open/closed status isn't restored on restart)
- Fixed DSK-274345 (Opera Link fails after adding a separator)
- Fixed DSK-274200 (Deleted nickname bookmarks show up in address field)
- Fixed DSK-275851 (When managing bookmarks Cut acts as delete)
- Fixed DSK-274443 (opera uses from 70-100% cpu usage on startup when loaded with my bookmarks)
- Fixed DSK-276014 (Bookmarks in addressbar dropdown don't update after changing bookmark properties)
- Fixed DSK-274385 (Links can't be dragged to the personal bar)
- Fixed DSK-275645 (bookmarks added with drag&drop from addressbar not saved)
- Fixed broken skin on search dropdowns
- Fixed so text in the widest item isn't clipped at the end in dropdowns
- Fixed so native skin for dropdowns use the rounded background and so the rounded button aligns to it
- Fixed, dropdowns in toolbars get the same height as editfields (and same alignment)
- Fix for transparent margins when using full transparency
- Fix for re-enabling system menu when extended aero effect is set back to normal
- Further search box enhancements
- Search dim effect opacity becomes a preference
- Show a arrow in the addressfield that brings up previously typed url dropdown
- Activate restored tab when clicking the tab chrome
- Disabled smooth dragging of tabs when wrapped layout is used as it doesn't work across multiple lines
- Set the active state on tab chrome for active restored windows
- Added maximize button to tab chrome on restored tabs
- Better fix for the statusbar background skin
- New icons
- Moved the panel toggle to the status bar
- Removed panel button on addressbar
- New structure of the Opera Menu
Core
- Upgraded Core and Carakan: Incorporating many bug and crash fixes!
- Fixed CORE-27080 (Starting Dragonfly causes 10.50 to crash)
- Fixed CORE-27094 (Fix gestures triggerring unreliably)
- Fixed CORE-26248 (Crashfix for speeddial still loading on exit)
- Fixed DSK-261896 (Opera freezes and on restart there are lots of ghost feed items in my unread box)
- Fixed DSK-277444 (mail import from Opera 10 POP or IMAP only gets settings, not messages)
- Fixed DSK-273323 ("No message selected" text missing)
- Fixed DSK-277230 (Saving (Save as) a message as an .mbs file doesn't do anything)
- Fixed DSK-277364 (mail data not removed on deleting account)
- Fixed DSK-277414 (new mail accounts set to 'queue outgoing messages' by default)
- Fixed DSK-277413 (wrong context menu for compose window)
- Fixed DSK-275431 (mailto URIs are not percent-decoded into the compose window properly)
- Fixed DSK-275430 (shift + up/down loops selection to other end of mail message list)
- Fixed DSK-274781 (contacts added again and again)
Widgets
- Widgets for Desktop return!
Windows
- Fixed DSK-266018 (Middle-click panning doesn't work)
Mac
- Various Cocoa improvments
- Support for enabling transparency on the top only
Unix
- Incorporates all fixes from previous (Windows and Mac snapshots)
- Crashfixes and improved stability
- Fixed DSK-262035 (Fonts sometimes disappear within webpages)
- Fixed DSK-274112 (Popup windows are modal, and they shouldn't be)
- Fixed DSK-274987 (Need to press TAB button twice to switch tab)
- The 'near future' arrived
Known issues
- Freeze on right clicking link and choosing "Save linked content as"
- Menu icons missing on Windows
- Javascript regression that makes Facebook unusable
- Some features of Widgets for Desktop don't work correctly on Unix and Mac
Don't forget to report bugs in the bug wizard. Any particular we're interested in reports about https connection problems.
Downloads
- Windows MSI / Windows Classic
- Mac (Intel) OS 10.5 or later
- Linux (only)
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Rijk # Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:24:17 PM
Originally posted by cerer:
Read the known issues, there's a crasher/hanging problem with downloads.Originally posted by OsoSentado:
Read back, has been answered already by Ruari.Originally posted by marcopod:
1 & 2 Sure, that's been the case for all these builds, and has been discussed a lot already. No need to repeat such things. 3: that should happen if the Tab bar is not the uppermost toolbar, it is by design.@DanielHendrycks: sorry, but I'm not even going to read all that
Rijk # Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:25:05 PM
Originally posted by mgillespie:
Yes, we haven't reached a new milestone yet.Furkantheadolescent # Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:34:54 PM
Damn, why can't i sort the favorite sites in the personal bar according to my choice in any version of Opera 10.50? Every time i restart the Opera the icons go back to mixed positions and i'm god damn angry.
Thanks for help.
Arguggi # Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:36:41 PM
Originally posted by Arguggi:
mtrmarko # Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:44:03 PM
tenplus1 # Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:53:28 PM
Using ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
setsutekh # Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:54:37 PM
If it's intentional, why was it changed? See comparison:
http://files.myopera.com/Sutekh/files/address_bar_drop_down.jpg - (Right click - Open to zoom)
Pablo InoPablo-ino # Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:08:55 PM
And too I have problem with Hotmail, when I access my email account, after when I close my account, I get an error that my Hotmail account was not closed properly. And I found that this problem only happens in my Opera version 10.5.
Regards and Thanks!
istoikow # Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:09:43 PM
@set , I think you are right. I prefer the address dropdown bar from 3202, it is much more efficient.
Sebastiánslalaurette # Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:11:37 PM
But it is not disabled, and it works right now. What do you mean?
janek2012 # Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:19:07 PM
AKAPanamaJack # Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:24:14 PM
Kyle Bakerkyleabaker # Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:24:52 PM
Originally posted by Sutekh:
I actually like the new layout more since the it makes the list easier to look through for me and the link I need is generally listed within the first few. The only other browser I know of atm that also uses this layout is Firefox. IE8 and Chrome 5 use the single line style.
Three complaints about the list (just my opinions/suggestions):
1. Opera doesn't highlight letter by letter what I'm typing (ex. "ope" doesn't list opera.com and only bolds parts if they are followed by a delimiter such as "." or "/")
2. Seperating the entries with a faint < hr >
would be nice and make distinguishing entries easier.
3. Text coloring for the url doesn't seem ideal to me.
archae # Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:51:46 PM
shaneh # Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:52:05 PM
It makes it more difficult to just click to the search field on the speed dial page if it's obscured by the start bar.
ouzowtfouzoWTF # Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:54:34 PM
FrankdZeus # Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:55:58 PM
Originally posted by Rijk:
ahh interesting, never knew about that. However, there are a few problems with it:
- when you switch tabs by other means than clicking on them in the tab bar, the page title doesn't appear in the status bar (I always switch by cycling with right-mousebutton+mousewheel).
- the pagetitle disappears as soon as you stop hovering the currently active tab with the mousepointer. It would be more usefull if it kept being displayed in the status bar until it is replaced by something else (e.g. by a link target when hovering a link with the mousepointer).
Thanks again!
Kyle Bakerkyleabaker # Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:06:57 PM
"This window has no runtime"
It seems to work very sparatically and is very unreliable even in the stable builds for me.
Irontiger # Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:12:30 PM
I'm trying to get the content block button back, see:
http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog/ad-block
But I only get a "button" called: "External action".
No icon, nothing and it doesn't work (means it doesn't tun on/off the content blocker).
Is this a bug?
Sebastiánslalaurette # Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:32:42 PM
Well, back to complaining.
* Still no proper keyboard grab from the password manager.
* "Manage widgets" opens... the Control Panel Add/Remove Programs module? Oh, man. This is not the way. I hope it's temporary until a good method is in place.
*
Originally posted by qbik13:
I have it working. Windows.
*
Originally posted by TA5K:
Works for me.
* Javascript: screen.width and screen.height are still swapped.
*
Originally posted by poorrichard01:
But it doesn't blend with the "Native" look anymore.
noelneh # Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:43:03 PM
This new build still does not start on Windows Me OS after install because of the
'Failed to load Unicode compatibilty layer "OUniAnsi.dll" becasue the specified procedure could not be found.'
Please fix...to include this version.
GuilhermeSpyMan # Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:50:26 PM
LEFT clicking a link to a .torrent file crashes Opera, with Opera BitTorrent enabled or not.
Danieledarklink88 # Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:56:03 PM
Originally posted by julben:
I think it would be nice if we could have the refresh/stop button in the adress bar like safari 4 and firefox 4
BlueFalcon # Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:06:05 AM
Kyle Bakerkyleabaker # Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:12:26 AM
http://screencast.com/t/NmE4MjRiZDI (link doesn't seem to work in Opera for me..)
Is this known?
EDIT: DSK-277981
Avola # Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:16:39 AM
Originally posted by DanielHendrycks:
masterofopera # Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:52:33 AM
Originally posted by darklink88:
still confusing for the most new [and long time Opera-] users),
I know I'm talking about, I have Safari 4, Chrome 4 &
Internet Exploder 8 installed, we should not copy everything.
(And bevore you ask, the new tab button
should also not be safari style.)
I hate Safari's BAD handling, only M$ I. Exploder 7 & 8
are worse.
But there are/were also GOOD Safari features:
The addressbar dropdown of Safari 4 (& the O 3202 build)
with every second line in light blue (Safari 3) and the
loading stripe in the adressfield (Safari 3) & blue highlightning of input field at webpages (Safari 4)
ouzowtfouzoWTF # Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:55:38 AM
Originally posted by darklink88:
worst thing ever, please dont copy such stuff
Danieledarklink88 # Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:57:33 AM
Originally posted by masterofopera:
That's true
milmarqtan # Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:11:31 AM
MetalRaise # Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:24:03 AM
Originally posted by theadolescent:
Known issue.
Temporary workaround is to open a new window (not tab). All bookmark icons will be in the right order for the new window.
lovelyopera # Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:24:55 AM
Worst idea ever in terms of ergonomics. Imagine having Opera maximized on a really high-resolution screen. Instead of keeping all buttons close together on the left to minimize hand/mouse movement, you'll have to mouse all the way to the far right every time you want to close or reload a page.
I really *hate* the green progress line in the URL bar. I find it too distracting. But I love the green progress lines on the background tabs.
* The address bar in Opera doesn't have rounded corners like the search bar. This may look like a minor thing but it makes the default Opera skin look like an unfinished patch job.
* There is a large gap between the new tab button and the tabs when the new tab button is placed on the left before the tabs.
* Whose idea was to place the new tab button on the far right after the last tab? The old way was much better and more ergonomic. A button that moves every time a new tab is opened is a bad thing. And when you have lots of tabs opened,you'll have to do a lot of mousing between the navigation buttons and the new tab button.
* The red "O" is still cut off in half when the tab bar is expanded to show the thumbnails. It should expand to a full "O"
Good job with this build - it works great under Windows 7 and Linux finally got some love
aFamous # Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:41:48 AM
"Go to Web Address" broken...
lovelyopera # Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:43:00 AM
The resulting floating button looks really out of place.
http://stashbox.org/782539/OperaBUG_1.png
Daniel HendrycksDanielHendrycks # Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:47:51 AM
Originally posted by Teun:
I know. Having re-evaluated the time constraints, my only request is bug fixes and the only feature is the progress bar shown through the address bar.
Originally posted by Rijk:
Perfectly understandable.
(Update: the bugs are still listed, and there are many less suggestions/enhancements listed)
Originally posted by Kyle Baker:
That is because scope (the backbone of Dragonfly) is getting an upgrade. In mean time it is down.
Asires # Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:48:55 AM
Originally posted by ouzoWTF:
+1
Propose to add the option > advanced > browsing > loading - redraw after 0.2, 0.4, 0.7 second, and set as default "0.2" or "0.4" because this noticeable faster than "1".
This also may be made from opera:config but manually adjusted Delay option sometimes reset to 0 (too blink) or 1000 ms. And newcomers don't know about "opera:config".
Also see this:
http://my.opera.com/Asires/albums/show.dml?id=1918851
Maybe some ideas may be realized.
And, some animation like fade-in and fade-out effect will be good for Links appearing on Statusbar.
Maximmax1c # Sunday, January 31, 2010 3:06:38 AM
Originally posted by Asires:
never! lawl
Andresandresruiz # Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:12:43 AM
Testing on Ubuntu 9.x 64 bit
Luchio # Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:12:56 AM
I like the work done on the Opera menu, thumbs up for the much needed clean-up!
(Note: The right-click menu could also use the same kind of clean-up, it's getting long and I would think that functions such as "Rewind", "Fast Forward" and "Validate" aren't that commonly used in that context)
Cheers!
Avola # Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:17:08 AM
Originally posted by Asires:
+1
Luchio # Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:18:28 AM
I figured out how that other poster had created the screenshot with what seemed to be an empty tab at the bottom of the page. In fact, it's what the status bar looks like when you remove the turbo/unite/link icons.
truem1215 # Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:21:47 AM
I believe that you developers do not forget CJK users!
Avola # Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:40:58 AM
I'm getting these small graphical bugs on some sites when zoom is set to anything higher than 100%
Kyle Bakerkyleabaker # Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:48:12 AM
Originally posted by Avola:
Confirmed. (tested on this page at the top)
Ichann # Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:19:57 AM
Originally posted by DanielHendrycks:
Are we still playing that game? I gave up after my last post regardong the matter. Too bad I am very bad at raster editing and only know how to use GIMP. (Photoshop is very hard for me to use)
I personally Perfer the blue
Joshua SellLithiumRain # Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:27:58 AM
Originally posted by Ichann:
I think this is fantastic idea! It really would make Opera easier to use for the Novice, and style it up a bit (more
Kyle Bakerkyleabaker # Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:36:26 AM
Originally posted by LithiumRain:
+1 If they ever did implement this then I'm sure they would leave an option to use a "classic" style as they usually seem to do for major changes.
I'd like to see this change as well. Especially since the user interface is already seeing many major changes and improvements. It's best to polish all aspects of the skin at once and release a fresh/easier/cleaner interface with 10.5 rather than slowly making it friendly to new users.
ayespy # Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:37:57 AM
NSL is less obtrusive than in ANY version of 10 so far, including 10.10.
In History Navigation Mode 3, back-click with embedded frames seems to take at most two clicks, where in the past it might take up to five.
Typing in text boxes sometimes fails to activate scrolling ability until you have typed a line or two past the size of the box, meaning you are typing blind until the scrollbar shrinks and the scroll wheel regains function.
Bluetie.com (mask as firefox, as they only support FF and IE) loads and works again, as in the first 10.5 snapshot, full ajax-driven right-click menus functional, but browser crashes if you try to send an email. You can compose, but not send. Oops.
Login at peoplefinders.com works with ctrl/enter only the first time in any given session. After that, the wand works, but not the hotkey combo. Odd. Close Opera, open it, crtl/enter works again, if session times out, only wand (or manual entry) works.
tvguide.com, click on a show for the full description, and get an empty windowshade (like popup, but just slides down the lower boundary of the area where the show name already was) box with nothing in it. (I dunno - is this a java call?)
All in all a giant leap forward from the last couple of snapshots.
More observations to follow, maybe.
Ichann # Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:37:59 AM
Originally posted by LithiumRain:
We also have few with domain name higlighting as an example. Too bad mine are a bit "uuh"
That is suppose to be a safe site btw. Jimmy has a nice example of domain name highlighting. Sadly Opera is too adament to not incorparate this.
Juan Trebolganzonet # Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:47:43 AM