My Opera
Happy New Year!
By Arjan van LeeuwenAVL. Thursday, December 31, 2009 11:01:00 PM
When we released our pre-alpha version into the wild last week, we told you that a Unix release would follow later. Today, as a new year's present, we'd like to give you the chance to play with Opera 10.5 on Unix.
We also have a little extra for those of you on Windows and Unix: this build includes support for the video element!
We also have a little extra for those of you on Windows and Unix: this build includes support for the video element!
Unix changes
Our Unix version is undergoing a lot of radical changes for the 10.5 release. It has been mentioned earlier that we are removing our dependency on the Qt libraries. By doing this, we hope to integrate better with the popular desktop environments out there, and we allow Opera to run without the need for a library that might or might not be installed on your system.
This means that you can run Opera without any graphical toolkit installed if you want to (plain X11), but if you do have toolkits installed, Opera will try to load and use them to integrate into the environment. Currently we are focusing on getting support for Gnome/GTK+ and KDE4/Qt4 into 10.5. The work on KDE4 integration is not at a stage yet where we think it can be used, so this pre-alpha release only has support for GTK. As a work in progress, you will notice that not all UI elements conform to their GTK specifications yet.
Like the other pre-alpha releases, the Unix build includes Carakan, our new javascript engine. The engine might be more unstable in 64-bit builds than in 32-bit.
Some features, such as printing and drag-and-drop functionality, are missing from this build.
Because this is a pre-alpha release, we don't recommend you to install it over your existing Opera installation. This is why we are releasing only non-installable tarballs instead of installable packages. To run Opera, extract the tarball and run './opera' from the main directory.
Video
Video support was first shown to the world by Opera in a labs release in 2007. Since then, things have changed a lot; you can read more about it in Philip's blog post. The Unix and Windows builds released today have support for the video element.
On Windows this should work out of the box. On Unix, you need to have some gstreamer plugins installed to get video support (on most distros, the packages are known as the gstreamer 'base' plugins). Unfortunately, video element support for Mac wasn't ready yet, but you can expect to see this in the future.
Other changes
Compared to the release from last week, these builds contain a small number of improvements that might help with stability.
Download
As before, this build represents a very early work in progress; many things are known not to work, and it will crash, burn and eat the occasional small household appliance.
A happy new year from all of us in the desktop team!
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Witold Barylukmovax # Friday, January 1, 2010 3:40:21 PM
Originally posted by Z1-AV69:
Works here correctly. If you mean open new empty tab? "Right click, and move cursor down. then release right button"? It works.
+1.
Corey Mwambacoreymwamba # Friday, January 1, 2010 3:44:06 PM
(<unknown>:30112): GStreamer-WARNING **: Failed to load plugin '/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstgnomevfs.so': libgnomevfs-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Because I don't have any GNOME libs on my system. So no
ricksper # Friday, January 1, 2010 3:52:38 PM
Z1-AV69 # Friday, January 1, 2010 4:02:27 PM
Originally posted by movax:
gesture down, gesture up over a link for a new background tab is what I'm missing most. It doesn't seem to recognize the link at all.
You are on Linux? Here on Windows I can't get it to work.
Witold Barylukmovax # Friday, January 1, 2010 4:16:11 PM
Originally posted by Z1-AV69:
Oh, i never used this (and it looks that doesn't work). I always use "middle mouse button". Linux.
Michelbudnyatski # Friday, January 1, 2010 4:19:54 PM
Originally posted by mitchman2:
1. Thanks for advice, but I told about search engines and not search history, sorry for inaccurate definition from me.
I told about Preferences → Search → select search engine you want to delete and click on Delete button on your keyword, nothing will happened but I want to perform removing of specific search engine.
2. By the way, when you click on «X» on search field Opera doesn't remove this search row but performs search.
3. Search on page is very slow and not always works.
4. Search on page is very uncomfortable — if you click Enter Opera switches your page to search engine results. In previous version there is no such kind of behaviour.
5. Slider with search option on Search panel (Ctrl+F) (match all text, match hole words) is to big.
6. Button's title on Anti-Banner bar is non-contrast — white text on grey buttons.
7. On some pages Opera doesn't go to hyperlinks, you click on it, but no reaction from Opera's side.
8. On http://api.yandex.ru/speller/ doesn't work «проверить текст» (spell check text), no popup with check results.
JoonasZounas # Friday, January 1, 2010 4:24:10 PM
Bugs in Linux version:
1. Resize browser window -> minimize -> restore: The scroll bar is positioned where it was before resizing.
2. Changing fonts in Preferences -> Web Pages: Normal font setting won't change and Monospace font button changes the normal font.
3. FlipForward seems always to trigger FastForward.
4. UI elements (links in personal bar, buttons, etc.) not draggable (probably known). I have KDE desktop if that is relevant.
Witold Barylukmovax # Friday, January 1, 2010 4:36:00 PM
Originally posted by Zounas:
Confirmed. But not exactly it is size befor resizing. It looks that opera is drawing area inside of the windows, but usses outer size of window (with window manager borders). My theory.
It is the same problem as problem #18 http://tnij.org/feia
It can be also done just by resizing to medium size, maximize, minimze, restore. Opera will only draw area of the size which ad befor maximizing.
Åitor gara®brujoquizz # Friday, January 1, 2010 4:38:33 PM
John ramsayjram # Friday, January 1, 2010 4:59:43 PM
Aaron W. Hsuarcfide # Friday, January 1, 2010 5:07:03 PM
sebt # Friday, January 1, 2010 5:19:38 PM
Some points/bugs:
- fonts seem to be messed up, though I have a feeling that this will improve as the GTK/KDE integration comes together.
- dragging the tab thumbnail bar causes weird lag (although mousewheel clicking it works fine)
- in-page search hilite colours are messed up (all the hilites are pink for me, with a thin green border for the current item
- window resizing causes strange behaviour sometimes
- zoom with ctrl+wheel is not working
- spellcheck seems not to be working
- ctrl+tab needs to be pressed twice to switch window, first time just brings up the chooser
- opera seems to have gone 100% cpu with only a couple of static tabs open, while editing this. Submitting this page and the 100% cpu goes away.
- F4 (open panels) / clicking the panels button: sometimes does not open the panels but does change the panel open button's state. upon floating/moving the mouse over the button the panels appear.
- http://www.crucial.com/uk and using the pulldown memory selector can cause opera to go 100% CPU for a long time (makes KDE completely unresponsive for the duration). Using the memory selector causes weird in-page selection near the dropdowns.
- nice to see news.bbc.co.uk weather pages 5 day forecast | next 24 hours tabs fixed since the last build!!
- tickers on BBC website (news frontpage, weather) still seem to consume an unreasonably large amount of CPU
- back/forward buttons and mouse gestures behave unpredictably sometimes (noticed this while in bbc weather pages)
- CTRL+T (new tab) does not seem to work in private windows
- sometimes flipping to a tab with an edit control focussed, typing does nothing
- Full-screen mode (F11) is broken
Happy new year folks
The YeOKYeOK # Friday, January 1, 2010 5:37:20 PM
10.50 is going to be a major step forward for opera.
Happy new year to everyone at Opera.
János, Vinczevinczej # Friday, January 1, 2010 5:43:36 PM
Dariusz SznajderAnty # Friday, January 1, 2010 5:46:12 PM
Originally posted by budnyatski:
How many subscriptions do you have?
I can't load Goole Reader at all, but I have a lot of subsciptions ~350.
arnaud lautierGrouick # Friday, January 1, 2010 5:47:33 PM
I can't even start this version...
I'm on Snow Leopard btw
sebt # Friday, January 1, 2010 5:51:48 PM
Originally posted by arnaud lautier:
You've been warned that this version is an early alpha with many bugs, therefore it's hardly surprising that it won't upgrade.
Seb
arnaud lautierGrouick # Friday, January 1, 2010 5:52:59 PM
Not complaining but a bit surprised that it wasn't launch on a snow leopard machine.
sebt # Friday, January 1, 2010 5:57:21 PM
Originally posted by arnaud lautier:
It probably will launch and work if you install it separately rather than upgrading. Can't say for sure though since I don't use Macs.
Seb
Hansapelle # Friday, January 1, 2010 5:57:30 PM
And thanks for the fastest browser in the World!
Kamaleshkamalesh # Friday, January 1, 2010 6:00:06 PM
(I do agree with the earlier comment about adding an easier functionality for a "Smart Fast-Forward" to better learn web sites' "next" links without editing < fastforward.ini >.)
Originally posted by movax:
Wasn't working in the last Mac build, and broken in build 8174, also (OSX v10.5.8) Aargh, I love that feature.
F-keys and singe-key shortcuts still can't work for me, also
Originally posted by jram:
Congratulations, you just discovered how misleading these artificial browser speed tests are...and not really reflective of real-world usage -- unless you only have three tabs open all day with Gmail, Facebook and deviant art.
Kamaleshkamalesh # Friday, January 1, 2010 6:16:52 PM
HAPPY NEW YEAR to one and all.
arnaud lautierGrouick # Friday, January 1, 2010 6:19:40 PM
Fabio Palliniflitz # Friday, January 1, 2010 6:20:21 PM
Getting ride from QT was a nice decision, Opera in Linux now is almost responsive as in Windows. Keep the integration work! What you done so far its a impressive progress for a alpha.
Kamaleshkamalesh # Friday, January 1, 2010 6:21:05 PM
Originally posted by Grouick:
I have a separate Snow Leopard machine and it works fine there. Installing pre-alphas into your production folder will get someone killed...be careful, man.
arnaud lautierGrouick # Friday, January 1, 2010 6:25:35 PM
All the options are brand new since I can see briefly my speed dial empty and my tabs in the upper default (down on my previous settings).
It is just strange...
Hector Macias Ayalahectormacias # Friday, January 1, 2010 6:28:09 PM
Z1-AV69 # Friday, January 1, 2010 6:31:30 PM
Originally posted by mgillespie:
It's a feature, thats intended.
Dariusz SznajderAnty # Friday, January 1, 2010 6:35:31 PM
I think it's "again" - AFAIR we have one "war on close button" much earlier in Opera history. I think it can be confugurable but "on tab button or nothing" is not enough.
Customized menu are displayed as Menu Bar but not as "Opera Start Menu" - this are pretty standard and constant.
Also Menu Bar is using very ugly fonts.
Daniel HendrycksDanielHendrycks # Friday, January 1, 2010 6:35:52 PM
element119 # Friday, January 1, 2010 6:36:34 PM
cleared cookies, unblocked content.
Joshua SellLithiumRain # Friday, January 1, 2010 6:38:32 PM
Daniel HendrycksDanielHendrycks # Friday, January 1, 2010 6:40:37 PM
Originally posted by desktopteam:
Is that the default layout of this build? Is fastforward and rewind removed from the defualt layout? I installed this over my default instalation (http://files.myopera.com/Tamil/Smilies/Cool.gif - I know, I'm bad.) because this is stable enough for me, so I do not know how Opera's layout looks on a fresh install.
Hector Macias Ayalahectormacias # Friday, January 1, 2010 6:44:00 PM
element119 # Friday, January 1, 2010 6:50:05 PM
vista x64
Rijk # Friday, January 1, 2010 6:55:26 PM
Originally posted by apa240:
See here on the Mac forum: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=3660451Originally posted by theadolescent:
What makes you think it isn't considered?Originally posted by Publisher:
Those sites don't always crash. I hope people keep sending in those crash reports, the top crashers will of course be on the top of the list to get fixed quickly.Originally posted by Case1:
This is quite definitely a bug!Originally posted by DanielHendrycks:
Not removed, but integrated in the back/forward buttons. For rewind, that means you need to find out how to get the dropdown (click-and-hold or click-and-move-down) to use the rewind function (or put the separate button back). Fast forward is a bit easier to get, because it will replace the 'forward' action when there is no forward history.juksu # Friday, January 1, 2010 7:04:09 PM
When i install Google Chrome in linux it installs same time repository called Google Chrome and i get updates rough my package manager.
Opera should be upadable same way in Fedora ETC..
sebt # Friday, January 1, 2010 7:06:58 PM
Seb
Philip Jägenstedtfoolip # Friday, January 1, 2010 7:09:21 PM
Originally posted by movax:
Unfortunately Dirac isn't suitable for the kinds of bitrates you'd expect on the web, it seems optimized for very high bitrate video as used by the BBC in their internal systems. But certainly it might be interesting to look at in the future if it gets tuned a bit for more moderate bitrates.
Philip Jägenstedtfoolip # Friday, January 1, 2010 7:11:01 PM
Originally posted by coreymwamba:
If you see that error message it means that GStreamer is trying to load the gnomevfs plugin, which fails because you don't have libgnomevfs. However, we don't use that plugin so it's harmless. You do have GStreamer installed and <video> should work for you.
FrankdZeus # Friday, January 1, 2010 7:13:27 PM
Originally posted by sebt:
no java in opera:about on windows here either
ayespy # Friday, January 1, 2010 7:15:21 PM
Originally posted by sebt:
There was no java support in the last 10.5 snapshot, and still is not in this one. As soon as it gets java support, your struggle will be over.
Dean3dxtrip # Friday, January 1, 2010 7:21:26 PM
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Daniel HendrycksDanielHendrycks # Friday, January 1, 2010 7:25:24 PM
Originally posted by Rijk:
Well, personally I think it should be hidden within the appearance>buttons section and not in the default GUI but I'll leave this one up to you guys.
pios # Friday, January 1, 2010 7:28:50 PM
oh and I also like the speed
debil0 # Friday, January 1, 2010 7:29:28 PM
I plan to use Opera on my netbook which only has a resolution of 1280x720. Every single one of that 720 vertical pixels counts! Using Windows Aero design is not an option as it becomes sluggish because of the GMA500 graphic chip.
Can you remove that title bar in Windows 7 Basic design, please?
[Edited for clarification]
thexfile # Friday, January 1, 2010 7:31:20 PM
Bruno Casanobrunitoc # Friday, January 1, 2010 7:34:55 PM
Best wishes for 2010 !!!!
Opera 10.50 best release ever, lot of hard work on it !!!
Z1-AV69 # Friday, January 1, 2010 7:36:45 PM
I just discovered it is possible to have even the "inner parts" of the Opera window with Aero-background through Clearbackground=1 setting in the skin. But it does only work when you switch the tabbar from top/bottom to left/right after startup, else you see only black. Please make that work (and please find a fix for that border-thing at the right side). It would allow for some interesting new skins.
GeorgeGoogleBot # Friday, January 1, 2010 7:57:55 PM
Being a Macintos PPC user I won't be able to use Opera anymore
Happy New year to all!