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Preparing for takeoff

By Ruarí Ødegaardruario. Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:45:00 PM

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Now that the New Year has really started and the Opera employees are flooding back to the office (not to escape their families I might add, but rather because Opera is so much fun!), the hard work begins on making Evenes more functional, and ... umm ... less buggy! wink

So what do we have for you so far? Well we have upgraded our core rending engine slightly, done a little work on video support, improved certain aspects of performance, improved Windows 7 integration, fixed some mail issues and added support for IMAP COMPRESS, added 'inspect element' to the right click menu and finally of course, fixed a number of common crashes!

Given that we still have much work to do, what we are really looking for from you is new issues and bugs that you notice. If you have reported a bug already and it isn't fixed, don't worry, we'll get to it but do keep in mind that this is work in progress. Also remember that whilst it is handy to discuss bugs with others in the comments below, reporting a bug consists of actually submitting a bug report through our bug report wizard.

Once again the builds provided reflect those that are stable enough to release at the time of going to press. A small number of fixes were removed whilst we investigated better, cleaner solutions. However with certain key fixes removed, we have a temporary reduction in platforms. With a bit of hard work (and luck) we will have more platforms and an even better Evenes for all our fans next time around! bigsmile

From this point on we are shifting up a gear to get you a stable 10.5 as soon as we possibly can!

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This build still represents early work in progress; as before many things are known not to work. It can still crash, cause you to swear and speak badly of you behind your back. You have been warned!


Known issues (will be fixed in the next snapshot)
  • 99% score on Acid3
  • Regression in DOM performance

Happy New Year!The Return of Hot Chocolate

Comments

setsutekh Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:48:28 PM

Awesome alien

GokuhSonGokuh Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:49:55 PM

oh... sad 99% score on Acid3... confused
hihi p That's no problem for me, and please continue to make "10.50" more stable little by little yes

Martin RauscherHades32 Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:50:33 PM

YEAH!

Avola Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:55:59 PM

Nice!yes

wywh Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:56:45 PM

awesome!!!

still few bugs... facebook issue still exists.

full screen mode has problems but atleast it doesnt crash anymore...

keep the good work

BS-Harou Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:00:50 PM

yes jester party party party

zoquete Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:01:42 PM

'< I knew it again! bigsmile
'< auuuuuuuuuuu

Pablo Bellucciampkstroff Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:02:49 PM

The mouse cursor disappears while navigating Menu (the red "O") -> Tools, someone can confirm this before I fill the bug report?

Avola Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:05:15 PM

Originally posted by zoquete:

I knew it again!


You're a psychic eek

jclins Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:06:11 PM

*kisses*

BetaMorph Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:06:22 PM

Originally posted by mpkstroff:

The mouse cursor disappears while navigating Menu (the red "O") -> Tools, someone can confirm this before I fill the bug report?



Can't confirm. It works fine here on Windows 7 smile

Pablo Bellucciampkstroff Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:10:03 PM

Ok, thanks

MartinMastermind1 Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:13:01 PM

Thanks, downloading, trying and reporting busgs (if I find any)

MariuszMariuszWWA Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:14:03 PM

ppc-linux version please smile

bachokocho Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:18:53 PM

Long time no see smile

jclins Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:21:17 PM

crashes when trying to load 'http://fuse.microsoft.com/kodu/%27:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5088/koducrashesopera.jpg

dirkthetomster Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:22:16 PM

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NEOAethyr Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:26:44 PM

Cool smile, I'm dl'ing and will be testing soon.

BS-Harou Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:27:50 PM

There is one annoying bug in Opera 10.5. When I have some element with box-shadow, and change its Y position to lower there are trails below.

Screen: http://stargate-rasa.info/jaffove/ostatni/opera/bug.jpg

You can test it on: http://stargate-rasa.info/jaffove/ostatni/opera/index.html (just move the object from below to upward)


Win XP SP3

Glootech Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:29:41 PM

Mouse gestures not working while all tabs closed seems to be fixed now, thanks bigsmile.
Single key shortcuts and middle mouse button panning still doesn't work for me though.

Glootech Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:31:26 PM

Nope, I take it back, still doesn't work. And thanks to the animation, the ctrl+z is painfully slow, when you're trying to reopen a large number of tabs, I hope you'll be able to turn this animation off p

noelneh Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:34:49 PM

Hello Opera Team!

Upgraded to the current Alpha build from 3186 to 3199.

However, I got this new build to start by just copying the "OUniAnsi.DLL" file in question from my Opera 10.01 Directory and this build crashed on my Windows ME as the previous one with automatic restarts to the Home Page.

Everything works fine as long as I stay on the home page and play with the TABS and Menus. If I try to link to any site, the build crashes and it's automatic restart kicks in with several tries it stabilizes to the Home Page chosen.

Otherwise, it appears unusable for web surfing at this point.

Any commments on this "OUniAnsi.DLL" file for stability on Windows Me platform??

Also AgentCROCODILE responded to my question as well as several observations from others on various issues as well the "OUniAnsi.DLL" in question.
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AgentCROCODILE # 15. January 2010, 22:44
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Originally posted by noelneh:

Retried clean separate install 10.50 Alpha build 3186 and got this dialog box:

"Failed to load Unicode compatibility layer OUniAnsi.DLL because: The specified procedure could not be found."

Can the Opera Team "just only" explain what this means??
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AgentCROCODILE # 1's Response:
It means that you have either a version of OUniAnsi.DLL that is either too old for Opera to run or you probably do not have that DLL in the first place.

BS-Harou Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:36:23 PM

Can you please make height of menu bar smaller like in Opera 10.1?

Screen: http://stargate-rasa.info/jaffove/ostatni/opera/ui_1.jpg

NEOAethyr Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:37:11 PM

Hmm, previous beta release javascripting bugs are gone it seems.
(still has some simple javascripting bugs though that need fixing)
This rev might end up as my main browser...

The bugs related to the taskbar thumbnail view is still bugged, please fix.
(16:9 aspect, on right side of screen)

The installer was awesome, no probs at all this time.
I very much like that one.


The win7 intergration is still lacking from the xp os'es.
It still looks like old opera v10.10 here.
While the 1st rev of 10.5 was awesome, this one is dull.
I'm really wanting the gui updates lol...

The extra space in the browser panel's, on the left top corner, is gone.
Which is good, back to normal.

The gui it's self, while not looking liek a true v10.50, still looks much better then the previous rev.
It looks exactly like v10.10.

Thanks for the release, looking forward to the next one.
No spywarre crap either, all good, this is my main for now.

And..., I updated v10.10 and it worked fine like it allways does.
(I backup my entier opera folder before I install a new rev)

poorrichard01 Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:37:31 PM

One of my bugs is fixed and the other is not.

The one fixed: In the previous snapshots, when I clicked on a Speed Dial thumbnail, there was a pause of about a second before the site started loading. That pause is now gone.

The one not fixed: Still, when I right click on a wallpaper on a website and click "use image on desktop," it does not change to my desktop image.

I'll spend the day today seeing if I have as many crashes as I'd been having.

svatansever Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:37:36 PM

F12 key doesn't work for me.

IKoke Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:41:09 PM

up

BS-Harou Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:47:45 PM

Originally posted by svatansever:

F12 key doesn't work for me.



Same here

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Did I set something wrong, or is it really set at all sites in "Site preferences>Cookies" the option "Never accept cookies" by default? (It's actually not set by default, but its checked by default so when I open the Site preferences>cookies and click on ok (without any change created by me) cookies get disabled).

pursanovd Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:49:46 PM

Thanks for the build smile and "yes", F12 doesnt seem to be working here (the first thing i noticed here in comments and decided to try..)

nahtanoj999 Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:55:18 PM

This build (and the last) have a small issue from 10.1 that was not present in the first 10.5 build. It's the one where if you search from the address bar with, for example, "g <search term>", the icon for the search does not show up. I had reported this as DSK-271474 for the 10.1 process. Are there plans to fix this, and should I resubmit for 10.5?

poorrichard01 Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:03:10 PM

Just to make you aware.....this one shows up on the PEACEKEEPER benchmark test on my laptop as considerably slower than Chrome....first time this has happened for me. Can someone test it on another benchmark?

In the interest of fairness, before I ran the test, I was not able to perceive any speed difference.

arekm Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:03:14 PM

Almost no linux specific fixes?

operic Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:06:42 PM

this build destroyed my existing bookmarks from the previous build.
confirmations?

Ruarí Ødegaardruario Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:12:37 PM

Originally posted by poorrichard01:

Just to make you aware.....this one shows up on the PEACEKEEPER benchmark test on my laptop as considerably slower than Chrome....first time this has happened for me. Can someone test it on another benchmark?

In the interest of fairness, before I ran the test, I was not able to perceive any speed difference.



Did you read the known issues? It'll be faster again in latter snapshots.

poorrichard01 Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:16:49 PM

Originally posted by ruario:

Did you read the known issues? It'll be faster again in latter snapshots.



Yes I did, but if that's what DOM performance means, I had no idea. So sorry to tick you off.

poorrichard01 Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:17:46 PM

Originally posted by operic:

this build destroyed my existing bookmarks from the previous build.
confirmations?



Same here. Fortunately nothing was irreplaceable.

János, Vinczevinczej Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:26:13 PM

Originally posted by svatansever:

F12 key doesn't work for me.



More precisely. F12 doesn't work correctly. Namely if I press F12, when I'm being in the addressbar, the popup comes.

Michael ThompsonMichael83815 Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:29:12 PM

Mail still won't update when doing an upgrade install.
When closing Opera Icon remains in system tray until you hover over it with mouse.

NEOAethyr Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:32:33 PM

@operic and poorrichard01.

I upgraded the last rev of v10.10 and had no probs like that.

slamwarp Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:37:07 PM

Originally posted by poorrichard01:

Just to make you aware.....this one shows up on the PEACEKEEPER benchmark test on my laptop as considerably slower than Chrome....first time this has happened for me. Can someone test it on another benchmark?
In the interest of fairness, before I ran the test, I was not able to perceive any speed difference.


yes, i also ran test. Previous bild had the same scores with chrome 4.0.288 dev(difference is only 8 points). This bild is slower than chrome (difference is about 600 points). But look at the end of Ruari Ødegaard post:
Regression in DOM performance
so, don't worry

poorrichard01 Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:37:55 PM

FILED BUG REPORT # DSK-276221

Can anyone confirm if this happens for you. If I go to any page with a hyperlink on it and right click and "copy," Opera crashes as soon as I click "copy."

I'm on the latest snapshot, on Windows 7 RC using an HP Pavilion 1032 us laptop, 2 dual core processor, 4 gigs RAM

Ruarí Ødegaardruario Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:38:18 PM

Originally posted by poorrichard01:

So sorry to tick you off.



He he ... you didn't tick me off. I was just saying. Next time I'll use a smilie wink

P.S. We do appreciate the feedback.

poorrichard01 Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:39:29 PM

Originally posted by ruario:

He he ... you didn't tick me off. I was just saying. Next time I'll use a smilie :wink:

P.S. We do appreciate the feedback.



No problem. smile

pursanovd Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:42:47 PM

btw, this buid has unite icon in the bottom, tho it seems, that unite applications can't be installed =( + google reader and some chats(like facebook's one) dont work correctly

NEOAethyr Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:47:22 PM

@poorrichard01

Just tried and no probs here, I dn what to say.
I guess try a fresh install or a diff upgrade path.


I've only seen one prob that v10.10 didn't have so far myself...
It was a prob with special char's of some sorts (rescricted logo), prob went away though on it's own and never came back.
Guessing maybe the page in ? had been changed while I was viewing it.


As for the F12 prob... ???
When I push F12, it brings up a right click menu, works no matter where my cursor is located.
I don't see a prob unless it's not supposed to be a right click menu.

koimark Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:48:24 PM

My bookmarsk also seemed to be lost. Mut as usually I trust Opera and checked my profile folder - they are there in bookmarks.adr-file but it seems that now (10.5 series) Opera uses new format file called bookmarks.ini and now this convert doesn't work yet during installation. My result was that my over 1MB adr file is there and new bookmarks.ini is only 44kB and contains only fraction of my bookmarks.
But I could import my bookmarks with Manage bookmarks - File - Import Opera bookmarks and browsed my old profile folder where bookmarks.adr was. It imported successfully my 4500 bookmarks.

Lucas Lealleal121 Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:48:39 PM

This build Crash so much!

svatansever Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:52:26 PM

no copy & paste function in the right click menu, or is it that way just for me?

setsutekh Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:53:04 PM

CSS property bolder doesn't work.

Testcase | Screenshot

Can someone confirm?

MrGalaxy Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:57:30 PM

Only english, no international. It's pity sad

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