MSI, worked fine, and it didn't seem bloated as other MSIs I've seen.

"Opera: Will you take this chance to give us a "install on USB stick" option?"

I second that. If possible, add the option to specify the user profile directory to the installer.

congrats

"Opera: Will you take this chance to give us a "install on USB stick" option?"

I'll third that! I take a USB flash drive with me everywhere with a synched version of my main Opera folder. Makes hopping on someone else's machine, firing it up, and surfing out so much easier.

And definitely let us to choose where the profile is kept. I would rather have all Opera files in one folder than to have them spread all over the hard drive...

How I can delete an Opera 9.0 8303 with MSI Installer?

I have a problem with Gmail. At the top of page we have "Search Mail" & "Search Web". This buttons breaked. I mean we can see something like effect of "br" in HTML. In Opera 9.0 there is problem with extra br. Often I can see tables with break lines.

The MSI-Installer-Solution (of Opera) is a VERY DANGEROUS piece software!

Have DELETED an other MSI-based-installed Software (NOT related to Opera)!!!


MfG

Norbert Schneider
aka BIT

Let me put it this way:

The new installer didn't work on my up to date windows xp sp2 machine. Opera would crash on loadup after a few seconds regardless of if I choose to load a session or not.

The session popup was messed up and had no text visible at all.

Should probably point out that my installation started as a 8.5
installed opera 9 march 10 on top works well
installed opera 9 march 19 with new installer and it crashes as said above
installed opera 9 march 19 with old installer, works as a charm.

Why is MSI dangerous, BIT-88?

TheFly: The crash on startup isn't necessarily related to the installer.

In the end, having to maintain several different installers (MSI for international users and network admins, .exe for English users, and MSI for English network admins) will require a lot of resources that could otherwise have been put to good use elsewhere.

The ideal situation would be one single installer for all users.

haavard, that is a great theory but the MSI you guys picked will not work on 98/ME/NT but MS has one that will. For the idiots that keep slapping chunks of crap at us 98/ME/NT users in this thread and the other thread for this build. Hmm, never mind about you idiots.

Any hints on my problem?

"In the V9 of Opera the automatic proxy configuration seems to be broken! The authentification for the proxy appears again and again but with correct authentifiaction information...

Also i get a "Bad Request (Invalid Verb)" (loading pages with NTLM authentication, loading the page works) when i try to submit a aspx-form (login to a self-developed page...)"

Dear RS,

it's probably politically incorrect... making jokes about mourning people who are using outdatet unsupported operating systems on wooden comps.
I really feel sorry - and a little ashamed. Yes, indeed! I never wanted to hurt you people! I never wanted to make a joke out of you brave conservative people! It's so bitter... to feel that misunderstood. My heart is filled with sympathy! You see? - I'm a friend! Please: Forgive me!
My humanistic attitude is proven by not mentioning the material your keyboards are made of and your furry mice.
Your not the only ones having problems. I cannot play Quake 4 in 1280 x 1024 Ultra Quality with a decent framerate! Now THATS a problem! Hope, that makes you feel better.

I've found more problems with GMail, the layout is broken..

See here for a screenshot (i masked the email adresses)
http://microse.mihopa.net/images/extern/problemsingmail.png

Keep up the good work

@Mods:
Is the ignore list deactivated in this blog? Phantom_of_The_Opera comments still show up here despite that freak is plonked.

When possible please activate it, thanks in advance.

Everything works brilliant!

Good Work!

This '98se user would like to buy the opera team a couple of cold beers for clearing up this nasty install issue.
Thanks!!!

I know this is for the installer, but I have a strange error.
http://my.opera.com/keanebean86/homes/files/wrong.jpg
update install from 8.x to 9 p1 to 9 p2 . . .

1. A question concerning AdBlock ?


I realized today that the AdBlock seems just to redirect the blocked pages to

lockalhost:0

correct me if I am wrong.

I am wondering wether Opera needs to establish even connections for those blocked pages. I already experienced dramatic speed improvments by blocking some statistic servers which seem to slow down the net. Would it not make even more page loading speed if opera could surpress those conections to the blocked contents completly in software istead in the last mile ... redirect it to localhost ?

Or is this for page operation required hat connections are established.


2. I experience problems blocking 23.23.23.23.somename.net

*.somename.net/* does not have the desired effect.
Is there docuemtaion about wildcards ? Or do you perhaps even supprt regex (would be cooooool !)

also even "*/ad/*" does not seem to work ..
what about "*ivbox.*" and "ad.*" (inclunding http and https)
:-) With those one could cover really powerfull the scope.

3. I Experience always some connections to be in TIME_WAIT status and stay there quite long.
What does this mean ? Do I establish to many connections, is this a bug , or my firewall not correct configured ?



Thanks Sascha

Phantom_of_The_Opera, Best fits you is Phantom_of_The_Idiots. You still have a very big user base on the net that uses 98/ME/NT. One of the reasons I dropped Firefox is because none of the Dev's give a shit about us so called losers as you say. I hope Opera is better and stronger then that.

Hey, regarding that proxy error: I have had it since 8.5 - it just keeps requesting username and password when I have an auto-configuration site entered - Firef*x does NOT do this. In fact, it asks for about EVERY picture that is being loaded.

Please fix this infamous bug!

Thanks,

S

PS: Will there be a new FRIDAY edition today?

I would prefer NSIS or Inno Setup.
Both are free, fast and mighty.

Dear RS,

I'm shocked. I'm deeply shocked by Your offensive and insulting comment! I feel hurted so much!
All I wanted to do was... building a bridge of understanding. To show some empathy!
But now, after I read Your harsh and offensive comment... I'll clearly have to learn that some people are just not fit for proper communication. Mayby this is the result of formerly being a user of Firefox? Did You adopt this nasty behavior in some barbarian OpenSource-Forums?

Is humor using MSI installer, too? I feel ashamed to see, it's another German, producing such aggressive and destructive comments. You're just ruining our image as being the worlds most humorous and fun loving nation

Thank God for the old installer~!

Please consider finding a different installer than MSI if you plan on replacing the current installer for network installations. Especially consider using an installer that is entirely self-contained and doesn't require updating the OS, rebooting, etc.

One that isn't rediculously slow and bloated would be awesome as well! The installer probably wouldn't be as big of an issue elsewhere (assuming it worked 100%), but this is the WEEKLY blog and thus all of us here are installing Opera at least once a week and see the installer a lot!

somethings wrong, when the most unbloated browser (Opera), chooses the most bloated installer :-(

Ironic, isn't it...

rschultz2002, the next build will work on Windows 9x/Me as far as I know.

MSI isn't evil because we didn't get it working on Windows 9x right away. That's our fault, not MSI.

I hope everybody is Uninstalling the previous version.

Using the MSI to update will cause issues

Make sure you always have the wipe-out-that-MSI-regtrash utility at hand 'cause sooner or later you will need it, if you don't know how to fiddle around in the registry yourself:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;290301

Icfu

The RSS reader seems to be buggy causing the browser to crash very often.

Bug report:
http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/060325/bugbug_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

I haven't personally installed this, but I think it's highly respectable (and prudent) of Opera Software ASA to provide this *additional* utility to network administrators. I don't think you people should be worry too much at all about your precious classic installer going away any time soon ... but most serious Windows programs I've seen tend to come with .exe installers as well as .msi. Single-user installs [and by default] will use the .exe, while still providing Active Directory / group policy administrators the ease of deployment, saving them tons of headache of trying to use third party utilities to hack an msi together based on pre and post install snapshots, and basically a diff of filesystem and registry changes (it's a bad situation).

Assuming Opera continues with the msi builds as well, this could potentially be a great step forward in Opera's chances of gaining a foothold in the corporate world.

The problem with 9x users lies in the version of Windows Installer Runtime it was built for, not that I like Windows Installer. Windows Installer 3.x MSI files do not work on Windows 9x. Unfortunately, that is the version of Windows Installer that it was built for, and it uses stuff that is not in 2.0, so the only way is to create an EXE installer. Although everyone here just says NSIS is good, I will give reasons... One major reason is flexibility: You can add a banner for Opera throughout the whole thing, you could create netspawn versions, which would allow admins to run a limited wizard made by opera team that would develop a script to make a network install silent version of Opera when options chosen were finished. The flexibility in that is that it is easy to update text piecing better... Another reason is compatibility: NSIS will work on 95 Gold to Vista (yes, I have tried, it works on Vista!). It is also much easier to debug the script because it is human readable, whereas MSI is a bunch of GUIDs, MSMs, Registry modules, etc. Also, NSIS has a very high compression when LZMA is chosen. If you want to have EXTREME flexibility and you may also want to make a webupdater, then Component Manager from http://xpui.sf.net/compmgr/
The Component Manager is v0.2 at this moment, but it works really well, especially with the associated ExperienceUI, available at http://xpui.sf.net/ and you can create specialized patches using the XPUI patch system. Of course, the creator of ExperienceUI and Component Manager will make install scripts for you for a fee. If you don't really want to deal with it, you can ask him to build a system similar to what I described and give him required information, and he will create an demo for you to try so that you can see if you like it. If you do, you can pay him. In case you are wondering, I am not affiliated with him, I just like his UIs and software and think you should at least consider it... If you would like more information from me, I'm sure you can send me a message. However, if you wish to contact ExperienceUI creator, go to http://xpui.sf.net/page/experienceui/instsvc/new/ and click on Contact me. Of course, if you like a demo, on the left panel of that page, there is a link to a Setup Demo, you can try a mockup that works exactly like the real thing but does not really do anything... If you don't like ExperienceUI but want a similar style, go to http://ultramodernui.sf.net/ to see the UltraModern UI. I think this one is good when combined with the skinned button plugin... You can still use component manager with it. I hope this helps you on your quest to find a good installer to replace the old one...

Regarding placing the Opera icon in the root of the start menu, that's a no-no according to MS, though I'm not sure how much anyone cares. I personally prefer programs using their own folders, but it's not a big deal.

I actually don't really care which installer is used - as long it works. And on my machine the msi installer dosen't work.
When Opera is installed by the msi installer I can't see any "labels" like "File", "Tools" or "Preferences".
If I use the classic installer everything is fine.

So at the moment I'm sticking with the classic one.

@ haavard

Not MSI is dangerous - the MSI-*SOLUTION* (install-method/way/installer-options or whatever) OF OPERA is dangerous, because after install of Opera, another MSI-installer-based _installed_ program was complete uninstalled - and this automatically (whithout any notification!) ...

Greetings from Switzerland!

Norbert Schneider
aka BIT

PS: I hope, you understand my very bad english :-)

Thank you!):
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