Opera Desktop Team

Opera 9 Beta released!

By Claudio Santambrogio. Thursday, 20. April 2006, 12:55:45

And finally - the good news! Today we released Opera 9 Beta!

Thanks to everyone for all the good feedback, and… stay tuned, the show goes on

We found a problem in last weekly's builds, so we released the ones before:

Windows Build 8367
Macintosh Build 3336
Unix build 236

Changelogs for changes since the Technical Preview 2:

Windows
Macintosh
Unix

Beta RCPost-beta weekly #1

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chivitli # 20. April 2006, 13:21

I'm finally first

Northgrove # 20. April 2006, 13:21

Good job, guys!

Marcu5z # 20. April 2006, 13:25

Akbalder # 20. April 2006, 13:25

Great news ! (but i will keep 8371)

FataL # 20. April 2006, 13:27

Betas, releases are not for us anymore. We all waiting for next weekly.

DandS # 20. April 2006, 13:28

Awesome, let's start testing again!

cematin # 20. April 2006, 13:31

the good one! ;-)

thx... stay on tuned

payu # 20. April 2006, 13:35

Thank you guys. Still looking forward to the complete implementation of NTLM auth.

darkuni # 20. April 2006, 13:36

Some problems with the Beta already ...

1) The GROSSLY stretched graphic for the first panel of the installer looks HORRIBLE. Reminds me of early VB days when people made similar 640x480 ABOUT screens using 32x32 icon graphics. Not really a problem, but being the FIRST foot forward, it didn't go over well.

2) Installed CRASHED as it finished. Again, it didn't seem to affect the end product, but many people are coming to v9 after being away from Opera for a long time - and this isn't going to instill confidence.

Anyway, more as I get time to try it out.

On - on a positive note: The corrupted graphic problem appears to be gone. THANK YOU!

Vinny-perm # 20. April 2006, 13:41

блин в 10 ке ? качаю...

zeth # 20. April 2006, 13:42

Ok, I upgraded from the latest weekly and the installation went fine, but it didn't install the opera.exe file so I couldn't start it. I downloaded it again from Norway instead of Sweden, and did the repair-thingie and then it seemed to work as it should.

velmu # 20. April 2006, 13:47

Excellent! Just one question. On the download page, you've got the ...if your download does not start automatically... The download link has &sub=marine in it: http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=27882&location=51&nothanks=yes&sub=marine

I sniff a conspiracy...

ihmemies # 20. April 2006, 14:05

Ze large image rendering bug/problem is still there. I don't understand why it appears... seems to be completely random.

http://www.kotiposti.net/ihmemies/roina/opera_images2.jpg

Edit: heh, seems that Opera never manages to render that picture completely when clicking refresh ;-) Every 2nd time the image renders completely with horrible distortion and varying colors (the colors change every time) and every other time only the upper 1/4th part of the image renders

Ahui886 # 20. April 2006, 14:06

Great!
thanks

shadowk # 20. April 2006, 14:08

i think i'll keep my 8367

thank you..can't wait to see the new build,next week

DiGriz # 20. April 2006, 14:18

Issue with files uploading is fixed! Great!!
CPU load is not 100% anymore when scrolling through pictures - good too.
NTLM is not working smooth enough, but it's working.
Keep up the good work.

ar1pe # 20. April 2006, 14:28

MrFrodo # 20. April 2006, 14:36

I've been using 3345. Am right now actually. What's wrong with it and should I stop using it? Seems fine, except for persistance of Flash problem...

bug 187336

And also, animations don't always display right for me. Using Flash 8 Plugin (latest - NOT 8.5 Beta). For example, with Mac build 3345, I will sometimes have the issue here: www.mlinc.com. The Flash will load, but I don't see animations until I resize the browser window. Then what's happening in the Flash animation will appear on screen, or I'll see the end resulat after the animation has finished.

unuselessj # 20. April 2006, 14:52

Are there changes between this Windows build and the "Pre-Easter-Mid-Weekly Release" with the same build number?

darkuni # 20. April 2006, 14:55

Follow up ...

Installed on my work machine - during install the first picture was NOT stretched (must not like widescreen displays like the one I have at home).

The crash (or install failure) happened again at the end:

This time - Opera didn't run (as the other user mentioned - the EXE wasn't there!). I actually had to ... sob ... LOAD FIREFOX ... and download it again - the "repair" fixed it. But I guarentee only real die hard Opera fans are going to jump through these hoops.

I mean, I know we're still in beta ... but dang ... this is a PUBLIC beta...

Paul Skinner # 20. April 2006, 15:06

Same problem as zeth and darkuni.

Using Windows XP SP 1, was upgrading from the Tuesday build.
Installer didn't deploy opera.exe

A rather important bug that one.

Lito # 20. April 2006, 15:16

Great news ! (but i will keep 8371)

Same for me. At this point build 8371 has had the best performance for me.

alsiladka # 20. April 2006, 15:24

DID no one notice it yet?

The beta build gives me build number as 5367 , whereas the last TP build was number 5371!!!

Makes no sense!! What do i make up of it?

Vinny-perm # 20. April 2006, 15:25

I don~t like this build it crashes

Daedalus # 20. April 2006, 15:26

I'm curious, what was the issue in build 8371/3345/240 that made you release the previous weekly instead?

DandS # 20. April 2006, 15:28

No crashes here until now.

KNuDDeL # 20. April 2006, 15:30

There is still the bug with the simple table http://yigg.de/spy

Im using Opera 9 Beta1 under Debian/Linux

Junyor # 20. April 2006, 15:44

@unuselessj: No.

@MrFrodo: Build 3345 is fine, it's just not beta quality.

@alsiladka: Read the blog post....

Dennis_Hawks # 20. April 2006, 15:54

Is there any hope that browser.css will be finally fixed?

sykora # 20. April 2006, 16:02

Thanks. You've given me something to mull over for the next couple of days.

musebliss # 20. April 2006, 16:28

Had the same problem at installing.
Used the 8371 build and installed the beta -> opera.exe and opera.dll were not installed again. -> started setup again -> used repair and it finally worked.

So, I've also got a problem with the content blocker in build 8371: it doesn't save my preferences, when I try to unblock content. Once blocked something, I am not able to unblock anymore.

patrixl # 20. April 2006, 16:30

The download page has a few bugs.. For example there's no slackware version, when I select slack and click on download I get the same page again, with Xandros selected.

And whatever version I try to download, even if I click the "get a tar.gz" checkbox I still get an rpm or deb or whatever.

therefore, I can't get this beta for my Arch Linux distrib. Also I'd like to get a build where I can run the install.sh and install it where _I_ want to, like we usually can for any opera release.

bug on the download page, or builds not yet available?

mgillespie # 20. April 2006, 16:31

I take it from that, releases are determined by deadlines, rather than "when it's ready", otherwise the powers that be in Opera would have waited for the next build, instead of jumping back..

That sucks, quality driven releases rather than timescale driven releases are the ONLY way to ensure good quality...

MrFrodo # 20. April 2006, 16:34

@Junyor: Has anyone else (and/or at Opera) confirmed the Flash issues I mentioned?

elfwinebr # 20. April 2006, 17:05

I Found some problems in Opera 9 releases, here the list (sorry for the english, it's bad i know, i am brazilian)

> There is a image render problem, sometimes the opera change some images for another in the page, or put images where there no images, the link show an example: http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/2281/demo9ux.jpg

> I mark in the config to don't display the link titles but they still there =/, the image show this again: http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9806/demo21dz.jpg

I think that's all, congratulations for the good browser and keep up the good job guys

klingoncowboy4 # 20. April 2006, 17:05

WOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

4rcane # 20. April 2006, 17:19

- http://www.guildwars.com/gallery/screenshots/factions/default.php
the screenshots preview not showing up correctly
- https://www.comsec.com.au/default.aspx the wand id/password no longer work here
- google calender still doesn't work

I started using Firefox again because Opera can't handle the sites I visit often

csant # 20. April 2006, 17:21

patrixl,

ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/900/beta1/en/

take it from there - I guess you'll find your way.
/c

Snapshot # 20. April 2006, 17:22

Thanks, I'm waiting for finally version, but this is great! Acid2 pass well

gahbmwM5 # 20. April 2006, 17:26

Ok just for my own clarification, this Opera 9 Beta (Build 8367) is the exact same as the previous weekly_build 8367 listed as o9w_8367.exe as I have preferred to thus far utilize the Classic Installer...

Currently I am presently utilizing o9w_8371.exe and have only tested it for a day or so...Junyor mentioned that this o9w_8371 'build is fine and except not beta quality...'

Thanks for the continuing work to Opera9 Desktop Dev Team..

klingoncowboy4 # 20. April 2006, 17:36

I had to run a second "repair" install beacause it didn't copy the exe file when I did an upgrade install the first time but now everything seems to work.

ilyabirman # 20. April 2006, 17:37

Noticed "Removed box model quirk (box-sizing:border-box;) in quirks mode." in a changelog... Are you serious about this? Now how are we supposed to... to markup everything?..

I'm really frustrated. The W3C box model is idiotic and "box-sizing:" was the only way to work around it... Now what?

Junyor # 20. April 2006, 17:54

@MrFrodo: Bug number?

Farmer Ted # 20. April 2006, 18:04

The widgets feature in this beta are still (as the other builds have) darkening the screen on my WXP PC whenever I access wigets. Is this a known issue or issue at all but most of all is it going to stay. I'd rather go to Tools -> Show Widgets to access widgets, as I've been doing on my copy of TP2.

stefd # 20. April 2006, 18:07

hi,

is opera will be developp in universal binaries ?

merci.

ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/mac/900b1

Tezkah # 20. April 2006, 18:17

The "Beta" linked off of the home page crashes hard on my machine (iMac Core Duo running 10.4.6), wouldn't let me copy off of the DMG disk (gave errors) or run it form there (crashed on opening).

Same thing happens with the latest weekly.

Strangely enough, build 3329 lets me copy off of the disk, but it crashes no matter where i run it (I've even tried trashing all of my profile information.)

Oh well.

ra-mon # 20. April 2006, 19:13

Still not refreshing edited post in all php web forums (typically phpbb and punbb)
edited posts needs systematically a manual refresh, it's annoying :-/
reported as bug-204911
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=128799
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=131038
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=131652

Thanks for this great release

@+
--
Pierre - http://opera-fr.com

Rijk # 20. April 2006, 19:58

Noticed "Removed box model quirk (box-sizing:border-box in quirks mode." in a changelog... Are you serious about this? Now how are we supposed to... to markup everything?..

I'm really frustrated. The W3C box model is idiotic and "box-sizing:" was the only way to work around it... Now what?

This means that Opera no longer breaks the W3C box model by default in Quirks mode. We used to do this using something like this in the default styles for quirks mode:

* {box-sizing: border-box;}

... but it turns out that what MSIE does in Quirks mode is way more complex. So in several cases, our solution simply meant Opera rendering different from both MSIE and Firefox. And Firefox seems to manage fine with using the W3C box model in Quirks mode. So we don't apply this rule anymore in Opera 9 - but the support for the CSS property 'box-sizing' has not been dropped.

So if you need it in your design, you can include this rule in your own stylesheet. Read more here:
http://www.quirksmode.org/css/box.html

jeff_schiller # 20. April 2006, 20:00

Same problem with the Beta build as zeth, darkuni, Paul Skinner. This seems like kind of an embarassing thing to happen for a public beta.

slauf # 20. April 2006, 20:04

In the last weekly Build I found a bug or more. * When I will download a file only a few files will show me their Size, which Download-Status they have and how much time they need to finish. On the other hand some downloads won't update their Download-Status (all the things I talk a few lines above), when I stop them.

Another bug is when I load an Ebay-Site, because the Continuestatus-bar will not be unvisible when the Site is completely loaded.

But I will not forget to thank you so much for all these weekly and mid-weekly-Builds !!!

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