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Opera 9 Beta released!

By Claudio Santambrogiocsant. Thursday, April 20, 2006 12:55:45 PM

And finally - the good news! Today we released Opera 9 Beta!

Thanks to everyone for all the good feedback, and… stay tuned, the show goes on wink

We found a problem in last weekly's builds, so we released the ones before:
  • Windows Build 8367
  • Macintosh Build 3336
  • Unix build 236


Changelogs for changes since the Technical Preview 2:

Windows
Macintosh
Unix

Beta RCPost-beta weekly #1

Comments

chivitli Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:21:18 PM

I'm finally first wink

Northgrove Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:21:32 PM

Good job, guys! smile

Marcu5z Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:25:15 PM

bigsmile

Akbalder Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:25:57 PM

Great news ! (but i will keep 8371) bigsmile

FataL Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:27:56 PM

Betas, releases are not for us anymore. We all waiting for next weekly. p wait

DandsDandS Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:28:00 PM

Awesome, let's start testing again!

Erich Meiercematin Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:31:44 PM

the good one! ;-)

thx... stay on tuned

payu Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:35:19 PM

Thank you guys. Still looking forward to the complete implementation of NTLM auth.

Shane R. Monroedarkuni Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:36:20 PM

Some problems with the Beta already ...

1) The GROSSLY stretched graphic for the first panel of the installer looks HORRIBLE. Reminds me of early VB days when people made similar 640x480 ABOUT screens using 32x32 icon graphics. Not really a problem, but being the FIRST foot forward, it didn't go over well.

2) Installed CRASHED as it finished. Again, it didn't seem to affect the end product, but many people are coming to v9 after being away from Opera for a long time - and this isn't going to instill confidence.

Anyway, more as I get time to try it out.

On - on a positive note: The corrupted graphic problem appears to be gone. THANK YOU!

SergeiVinny-perm Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:41:31 PM

блин в 10 ке ? качаю...

Johnny Chaddazeth Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:42:50 PM

Ok, I upgraded from the latest weekly and the installation went fine, but it didn't install the opera.exe file so I couldn't start it. I downloaded it again from Norway instead of Sweden, and did the repair-thingie and then it seemed to work as it should.

velmu Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:47:37 PM

Excellent! Just one question. On the download page, you've got the ...if your download does not start automatically... The download link has &sub=marine in it: http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=27882&location=51&nothanks=yes&sub=marine

I sniff a conspiracy... rolleyes

ihmemies Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:05:32 PM

Ze large image rendering bug/problem is still there. I don't understand why it appears... seems to be completely random.

http://www.kotiposti.net/ihmemies/roina/opera_images2.jpg

Edit: heh, seems that Opera never manages to render that picture completely when clicking refresh ;-) Every 2nd time the image renders completely with horrible distortion and varying colors (the colors change every time) and every other time only the upper 1/4th part of the image renders p

Ahui886 Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:06:34 PM

Great!
thanks

shadowKshadowk Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:08:36 PM

i think i'll keep my 8367 bigsmile thank you..can't wait to see the new build,next week

DiGriz Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:18:53 PM

Issue with files uploading is fixed! Great!!
CPU load is not 100% anymore when scrolling through pictures - good too.
NTLM is not working smooth enough, but it's working.
Keep up the good work.

Ar1Pear1pe Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:28:18 PM

bigsmile

MrFrodo Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:36:23 PM

I've been using 3345. Am right now actually. What's wrong with it and should I stop using it? Seems fine, except for persistance of Flash problem...

bug 187336

And also, animations don't always display right for me. Using Flash 8 Plugin (latest - NOT 8.5 Beta). For example, with Mac build 3345, I will sometimes have the issue here: www.mlinc.com. The Flash will load, but I don't see animations until I resize the browser window. Then what's happening in the Flash animation will appear on screen, or I'll see the end resulat after the animation has finished.

Jayunuselessj Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:52:54 PM

Are there changes between this Windows build and the "Pre-Easter-Mid-Weekly Release" with the same build number?

Shane R. Monroedarkuni Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:55:57 PM

Follow up ...

Installed on my work machine - during install the first picture was NOT stretched (must not like widescreen displays like the one I have at home).

The crash (or install failure) happened again at the end:



This time - Opera didn't run (as the other user mentioned - the EXE wasn't there!). I actually had to ... sob ... LOAD FIREFOX ... and download it again - the "repair" fixed it. But I guarentee only real die hard Opera fans are going to jump through these hoops.

I mean, I know we're still in beta ... but dang ... this is a PUBLIC beta...

Paul SkinnerPaulSkinner Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:06:52 PM

Same problem as zeth and darkuni.

Using Windows XP SP 1, was upgrading from the Tuesday build.
Installer didn't deploy opera.exe

A rather important bug that one.

Lito Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:16:59 PM

Great news ! (but i will keep 8371)


Same for me. At this point build 8371 has had the best performance for me.

alsiladka Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:24:51 PM

DID no one notice it yet?

The beta build gives me build number as 5367 , whereas the last TP build was number 5371!!!

Makes no sense!! What do i make up of it?

SergeiVinny-perm Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:25:10 PM

I don~t like this build it crashes

Lars AnderssonDaedalus Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:26:51 PM

I'm curious, what was the issue in build 8371/3345/240 that made you release the previous weekly instead? smile

DandsDandS Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:28:39 PM

No crashes here until now.

KNuDDeL Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:30:58 PM

There is still the bug with the simple table http://yigg.de/spy

Im using Opera 9 Beta1 under Debian/Linux

Tim AltmanJunyor Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:44:53 PM

@unuselessj: No.

@MrFrodo: Build 3345 is fine, it's just not beta quality.

@alsiladka: Read the blog post....

Dennis-Hawks Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:54:41 PM

Is there any hope that browser.css will be finally fixed?

Sykora Skywavesykora Thursday, April 20, 2006 4:02:45 PM

Thanks. You've given me something to mull over for the next couple of days.

Frankmusebliss Thursday, April 20, 2006 4:28:20 PM

Had the same problem at installing.
Used the 8371 build and installed the beta -> opera.exe and opera.dll were not installed again. -> started setup again -> used repair and it finally worked.

So, I've also got a problem with the content blocker in build 8371: it doesn't save my preferences, when I try to unblock content. Once blocked something, I am not able to unblock anymore.

patrixl Thursday, April 20, 2006 4:30:37 PM

The download page has a few bugs.. For example there's no slackware version, when I select slack and click on download I get the same page again, with Xandros selected.

And whatever version I try to download, even if I click the "get a tar.gz" checkbox I still get an rpm or deb or whatever.

therefore, I can't get this beta for my Arch Linux distrib. Also I'd like to get a build where I can run the install.sh and install it where _I_ want to, like we usually can for any opera release.

bug on the download page, or builds not yet available?

MrFrodo Thursday, April 20, 2006 4:34:23 PM

@Junyor: Has anyone else (and/or at Opera) confirmed the Flash issues I mentioned?

elfwinebr Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:05:41 PM

I Found some problems in Opera 9 releases, here the list (sorry for the english, it's bad i know, i am brazilian)

> There is a image render problem, sometimes the opera change some images for another in the page, or put images where there no images, the link show an example: http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/2281/demo9ux.jpg

> I mark in the config to don't display the link titles but they still there =/, the image show this again: http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9806/demo21dz.jpg

I think that's all, congratulations for the good browser and keep up the good job guys bigsmile

Kc4 the Greatklingoncowboy4 Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:05:50 PM

WOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO yes

4rcane Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:19:43 PM

- http://www.guildwars.com/gallery/screenshots/factions/default.php
the screenshots preview not showing up correctly
- https://www.comsec.com.au/default.aspx the wand id/password no longer work here
- google calender still doesn't work

I started using Firefox again because Opera can't handle the sites I visit often

Claudio Santambrogiocsant Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:21:42 PM

patrixl,

ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/900/beta1/en/

take it from there - I guess you'll find your way.
/c smile

Snapshot Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:22:40 PM

Thanks, I'm waiting for finally version, but this is great! Acid2 pass well bigsmile

gahbmwM5 Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:26:38 PM

Ok just for my own clarification, this Opera 9 Beta (Build 8367) is the exact same as the previous weekly_build 8367 listed as o9w_8367.exe as I have preferred to thus far utilize the Classic Installer...

Currently I am presently utilizing o9w_8371.exe and have only tested it for a day or so...Junyor mentioned that this o9w_8371 'build is fine and except not beta quality...'

Thanks for the continuing work to Opera9 Desktop Dev Team..

Kc4 the Greatklingoncowboy4 Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:36:52 PM

I had to run a second "repair" install beacause it didn't copy the exe file when I did an upgrade install the first time but now everything seems to work.

Ilya Birmanilyabirman Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:37:24 PM

Noticed "Removed box model quirk (box-sizing:border-box;) in quirks mode." in a changelog... Are you serious about this? Now how are we supposed to... to markup everything?..

I'm really frustrated. The W3C box model is idiotic and "box-sizing:" was the only way to work around it... Now what?

Tim AltmanJunyor Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:54:16 PM

@MrFrodo: Bug number?

Farmer Ted Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:04:33 PM

The widgets feature in this beta are still (as the other builds have) darkening the screen on my WXP PC whenever I access wigets. Is this a known issue or issue at all but most of all is it going to stay. I'd rather go to Tools -> Show Widgets to access widgets, as I've been doing on my copy of TP2.

stefd Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:07:09 PM

hi,

is opera will be developp in universal binaries ?

merci.

ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/mac/900b1

Tezkah Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:17:12 PM

The "Beta" linked off of the home page crashes hard on my machine (iMac Core Duo running 10.4.6), wouldn't let me copy off of the DMG disk (gave errors) or run it form there (crashed on opening).


Same thing happens with the latest weekly.




Strangely enough, build 3329 lets me copy off of the disk, but it crashes no matter where i run it (I've even tried trashing all of my profile information.)



Oh well.

Pierrera-mon Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:13:14 PM

Still not refreshing edited post in all php web forums (typically phpbb and punbb)
edited posts needs systematically a manual refresh, it's annoying :-/
reported as bug-204911
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=128799
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=131038
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=131652

Thanks for this great release wink

@+
--
Pierre - http://opera-fr.com

Rijk Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:58:22 PM

Noticed "Removed box model quirk (box-sizing:border-box in quirks mode." in a changelog... Are you serious about this? Now how are we supposed to... to markup everything?..

I'm really frustrated. The W3C box model is idiotic and "box-sizing:" was the only way to work around it... Now what?



This means that Opera no longer breaks the W3C box model by default in Quirks mode. We used to do this using something like this in the default styles for quirks mode:

* {box-sizing: border-box;}

... but it turns out that what MSIE does in Quirks mode is way more complex. So in several cases, our solution simply meant Opera rendering different from both MSIE and Firefox. And Firefox seems to manage fine with using the W3C box model in Quirks mode. So we don't apply this rule anymore in Opera 9 - but the support for the CSS property 'box-sizing' has not been dropped.

So if you need it in your design, you can include this rule in your own stylesheet. Read more here:
http://www.quirksmode.org/css/box.html



Jeff Schillerjeffschiller Thursday, April 20, 2006 8:00:00 PM

Same problem with the Beta build as zeth, darkuni, Paul Skinner. This seems like kind of an embarassing thing to happen for a public beta.

slauf Thursday, April 20, 2006 8:04:43 PM

In the last weekly Build I found a bug or more. * When I will download a file only a few files will show me their Size, which Download-Status they have and how much time they need to finish. On the other hand some downloads won't update their Download-Status (all the things I talk a few lines above), when I stop them.

Another bug is when I load an Ebay-Site, because the Continuestatus-bar will not be unvisible when the Site is completely loaded.

But I will not forget to thank you so much for all these weekly and mid-weekly-Builds !!!

omeow Thursday, April 20, 2006 8:39:58 PM

The page http://ns.nl/ (A Dutch railway company) makes Opera unresponsive and CPU load goes up to 100%. Can anyone confirm?

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