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Weekly..daily? Now even I'm getting confused

By olli. Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:12:50 PM

,

Oki so we have some new fixes for ya'll

Changelog
  • More fixes to console poping up. This time it only happened if you had filter set
  • Several layout fixes. F.ex for gmail
  • Several stability fixes



Download links
Windows MSI
Windows Classic
Macintosh
Unix

Monday: A new week begins..It's Friday again! (well, in Asia)

Comments

vladann Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:41:06 PM

Ok Thanks.

Petko VasilevAlpha-Toxic Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:48:21 PM

lol this betas are so many...
soon we'll have to call them "hourly" smile

babox Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:48:29 PM

www.repubblica.it (an italian newspaper) was better rendered in the previous build... left

Ilja Nedilkouniorzeroman Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:52:18 PM

Hehe, are you releasing new builds now every day? That's good smile Very good smile

babox Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:57:20 PM

ps. you forgot to change build number p

JasmoJazmo Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:02:56 PM

interesting..

xpahos Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:05:16 PM

How can i use plugins in widgets ?

otzi Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:10:55 PM

I have problem ONLY with watching ONLINE TV, for example with these televisions

http://www.joj.sk/?go=live
http://www.markiza.sk/tv_archiv/?19383m=l
http://www.eurosport.fr/football/mc_vid24226.shtml

but in 8.54 is all ok,I have WMP 10,so i don`t know what is the problem.
Can you check it?

Twilo Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:12:34 PM

perfekt :-)

graste Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:12:39 PM

The marking of URLs works better in Opera9 than in previous Opera versions. One addition perhaps: URLs in brackets like (www.example.com) cannot be marked correctly by double clicking the "com", because the initial bracket is marked, too. Perhaps the marking can be done until the first non-URL-character right before any whitespace appears (otherwise brackets or similar wouldn't be allowed in URLs anymore). Is it too difficult? I've not considered all possibilities, but I'm sure, that you Opera developers have. So I don't know, if it is a bug, impossible or a valid feature request. smile

Szőts Ákosszotsaki2 Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:16:49 PM

What does the Mozilla license (RSS icons) contain exactly? I'm curious bigsmile

And yeah at last! The installer has a correct language-manager system which displays the Hungarian (and I think the others too) special characters well!

Non-Tropponon-troppo Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:31:36 PM

to strongly reiterate olli and sorry to sound grumpy - comments should be about the weekly. this #1 #2 is tedious and IMO dumb, moreover comments get spammed with "kewl" and "yay" without any point of value to the release.

saying a new feature is working and appreciated is OK IMO.

i've largely given up reading these comments as the signal-to-noise ratio is so poor. important issues can be drowned out in meaningless posts.

please can we stop pointless # and "yay" posts? we are here to beta test.

Digidani Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:31:52 PM

The Weeklys getting larger... smile
Over 6 MB this time...

graste Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:34:25 PM

http://codex.gallery2.org/index.php/Main_Page

MediaWiki links on the top are almost completely hidden. On Wikipedia they are working.

Ranjan Groverrgrover Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:35:43 PM

Eveyrthing works... except the mplayer plugin! *sob*. Is it working for anyone else? Am I just retarded? If it is wokring, please send me a site that I can check it at. Its not working at

http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/index.jhtml

bazantm Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:35:49 PM

Nice build :-) Is there some reason for changing keyboard shortcut to Feeds from ALT+D to ALT+S? Thank you. I'm used to ALT+D :-)

Idan AdarYtseJam Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:36:31 PM

Dig, it's mostly because the installer is now MSI + has support for many many languages, Opera itself is pretty much the same size as before.

The classic installer is 3.9MB...

Sislik Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:36:41 PM

I'm downloading Classic setup, it's a bit smaller but it grows up too smile

Ilja Nedilkouniorzeroman Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:38:10 PM

Can you please fix bug with ImageShack (http://www.imageshack.us/) pictures uploading? Because to receive image links, you need to upload your image several times.

Updated: hmm, it seems to work now. And one more question: can you tell me when you will be release 9.0 Final? In august?

Joey WaghWajo357 Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:40:07 PM

would it be helpful to just have a seperate installer for each language by the time the final version comes around so that we don't have to download twice as much just for languages we will not use?

Daniel Goldmandanigoldman Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:41:12 PM

"Olli: Can we please stop this 1, 2 stuff?"

Why don't you delete those comments?

Mauromzk Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:42:55 PM

digg.com is still using 100% cpu when javascript is enabled and there are a lot of comments to display. sad

LudvigKanel Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:53:49 PM

Nice! smile

Antonie PotgieterContrid Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:58:38 PM

Yay...#24...lol.

This is getting better everytime.

Soon we will have the final, right?

MagicM Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:59:02 PM

Best. Build. Ever.

I went from Beta 2 to the previous weekly because of the Slashdot CSS-bug. And now this weekly fixes the layout bugs that that weekly introduced. No more layout issues for me, hooray!

Now I just really hope that wasn't a new memory leak I noticed in the previous weekly.

illiad Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:12:13 PM

2Mb overhead for M$I installer??? now *thats* bloatware!!! smile

the classic works better all the time, must be lack of M$!!

er... remind me why MSI is needed???????

Tim AltmanJunyor Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:12:47 PM

@Wajo357: Having separate builds for each language causes a *lot* of overhead for us. Each build has to go through release testing. If we have, for instance, 50 localized builds, then that requires 50 times as much work as having the language files all in one build. This has historically led to localized builds not being available for weeks to months after a release, if at all. We'd like to avoid that.

@illiad: The MSI installer includes language packs, while the classic installer does not. That's most of the overhead.

Tobi2A Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:14:25 PM

Can someone confirm, that CSS tooltips are still (a bit wink) broken in this build?

Example: http://brunildo.org/test/CssAbsPop.html
(The words marked blue.) The first tooltip gets corrupted when I move the mouse while it is shown.

http://www.cybersaps.org/2004/01/Pure-css-tooltips.html
Here all tooltips are distorted.

And generally any tooltip is at the wrong position when the page is scrolled down. (You might need to resize the browser window to get the scrollbars.)

This does not happen with Opera build 8414.

Steve DarkenDarken Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:15:55 PM

All seem to works fine for me... no more installer problem with this build. bigsmile

Twilo Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:17:44 PM

> Source Viewer
> You have not specified an external helper application. Do you

I registered a program in the configuration.

Jakub81 Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:22:17 PM

What is the point of including 30 languages? It's 6.5 MB! Usually people choose only one language anyway.

illiad Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:24:04 PM

cheers non-troppo!! smile as I said before, this is a blog, so you get the geek comments, the 'hard-to-follow' bits(not for geniuses like you, though!!!) , and the generally messy layout and usability bugs...(nevermind another, I *wont* mention!!)

now if it could be built like the forum.... more maturity, less messing... up

and yes!! daily releases!!!??? please add *much* more details, otherwise I wont keep up.... bigsmile


Zeppelinzeppelin0p Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:24:59 PM

well done,

Consider:
1.Google calendar
2.A more flexible ad blocking system. Firefox takes all the “adblock extension” 's glory
3.M2 encryption (as gpg) support
4.M2 contact groups support.

keep up with the good work!

illiad Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:28:37 PM

can you not add a 'language'(auto selected, like windows/linux??) prompt when you go to the download page??? surely this would reduce the overhead??

and while we are at it, how about a 'redo zoom' on the F12 menu??

- when the session you have loaded is 100%, and opera is set to 120%, it wont 're-zoom' (nothing has changed) so it stays at the 'session zoom'..

Paul SkinnerPaulSkinner Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:33:28 PM

Psh, you lot are behind the times, it started happening ages ago, but was blatant in the last 'weekly'.

I hope to goodness they separate out the languages at final, as doubling the file-size just ain't good.

Nice to see it wanted to upgrade to the correct place again Big Smile


No problems as yet.

tjeerd Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:33:51 PM

http://teletekst.nos.nl/?100-01 still not correct

KirillKirill.Fenix Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:35:32 PM

Please, make all language packs separate downloadable.

//--
Sorry for my bad English

//--
Best regards, Fenix.

Rijk Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:38:04 PM

Originally posted by Twilo:

> Source Viewer
> You have not specified an external helper application.

I registered a program in the configuration.



Can you be more explicit? This should be fixed in the latest build. What program with which commandline is set? Feel free to start a thread in the Beta forum.

illiad Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:40:32 PM

er, Paul Skinner, what one are you talking about?? if its the languages, all the links, inc 8490, point to an exe, except for linux...

and opera 754 would 're-zoom' just goto prefs, page style, click on 'zoom' (no change), click ok, zoom changes...

Paul SkinnerPaulSkinner Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:45:10 PM

er, Paul Skinner, what one are you talking about??


Windows build is stable so far for me.

Quit flaming.

Igorigorditerni Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:46:17 PM

"Olli: Can we please stop this 1, 2 stuff?"

Why don't you delete those comments?



This 1, 2 stuff is only for fun and telling the world our happyness to be the first that can see the wonderfull new release of Opera, so i think you have to endure this little game of the first 10!


www.repubblica.it (an italian newspaper) was better rendered in the previous build...


Ciao babox, è vero!
Hi babox, is true!
Is pleasant to see other italians here ^_^

As repubblica, http://www.capital.it/capital/home (an italian radio) don't work correctly too.

And as in the last builds I can't read my webmail at http://mail.tiscali.it even if now i can log in again (with previous build i can't).

An other big problem is that Opera don't show menu at left in the home page of Dodorifanclub at http://dodorifanclub.interfree.it/Dodorifanclub.htm

Other problem too: in personal area at http://www.statistiche.it Opera don't show the calendar.

Thank you. smile

Ciao, Igor

Philip Seyfiseifip Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:49:07 PM

You can download hourly builds for Flock browser wink We`ll beat them! 5min builds? =D

BTW Good work Opera Team wink

Philip Seyfiseifip Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:56:04 PM

Annoyinf Flash bugs still here :/ And Please click to activate too :/ Will we really finish like IE???

illiad Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:56:32 PM

bigsmilebigsmilebigsmilebigsmile go Flock!!! bigsmile

Rijk Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:56:55 PM

@Kirill.Fenix, @Paul Skinner, @Jakub81:

All those languages add 1.5 MiB to the Windows installer download size - MSI-ness itself adds 0.7 MiB. If that is too much, there is the old Classic installer available in English. Tim (Junyor) explained why we are so glad to get rid of dozens of separately testable installers.


Originally posted by tjeerd:

http://teletekst.nos.nl/?100-01 still not correct



Seems to work for me. What is 'not correct'. And: did it work in Opera 8?


Originally posted by bazantm:

Is there some reason for changing keyboard shortcut to Feeds from ALT+D to ALT+S? Thank you. I'm used to ALT+D :-)



Some people like to assign Alt+D to 'focus address field', this makes it easier.

thom99 Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:03:18 PM

still no address autocompletition when typing with caps... :-(

see

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=123527


And another address related bug still not solved:

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=127942


All these have been around since TP2

Feodor Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:14:49 PM

funnily
http://www.gorodok.net/cgi-bin/signup

Robert Maupinkatsarts Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:14:59 PM

Wow, I had just downloaded the last weekly.. er dayly.. yesterday. p

I won't be able to keep up at this rate, and I also like the old rss icon. As I said last time it gives Opera a bit of its own feel.

No major problems discovered yet.

Davedfyfe Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:32:00 PM

To quote The Beatles, "It's getting better all the time." smile)

Build 8490, XPPro, SP2, JRE 1.6

Digidani Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:43:36 PM

Annoyinf Flash bugs still here :/ And Please click to activate too :/ Will we really finish like IE???



"Klick to activate" it´s a problem with media rights (Using of plugins). There are a lot of articles in media at last months. IE had now also "Klick to activate". Only FF works fine (for us) so far.

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