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Weekendly release

This weekendly is windows only.

We have fixed some installer related issues.

  • Fixed problem where Opera would run in English after installing in Traditional Spanish.
  • Fixed startup freeze after installing Opera in Czech. Note: be sure to remove the default bookmark file(s) from previous installations of Opera 9 in Czech -- or remove the old installations altogether, else the new installation will automatically import it, and Opera will freeze on startup again.


Also fixed blank inline pdf files.

Download links
Windows MSI
Windows Classic

yet another daily!Opera 9.0 Final released

Comments

Marcu5z 18. June 2006, 17:00

Fantastic bombastic...!!!
:D

kyleabaker 18. June 2006, 17:02

sweet! A father's day build! Niiiiice. :wink:

Twilo 18. June 2006, 17:05

nice nice :-)

igorditerni 18. June 2006, 17:06

7th...

Weekendly is a beautiful name!!! :smile:

Happy waiting for hourly. p:

Ciao, Igor

AndrewNi 18. June 2006, 17:26

Apart from inline PDF, does this have any other changes? It's just that you included the classic installer when the focus is on the MSI. Not complaining or anything, it's great to have an update, I'm just a bit confused that's all.

babumuchhala 18. June 2006, 17:36

No Mac or linux builds.

And the only changes u have mentioned are fixes in installation in languages other than english and fixed blank inline pdf files (which is of no use to me as i use fox it)

So is it worth the downlaod & install!

Even though i have already started the download P:

~babumuchhala
http://www.muchhalasworld.uni.cc

babumuchhala 18. June 2006, 17:49

BUG: Unable to Rename Feed names.

It renames it self in the manage feeds window, but when u click OK and the check the feeds menu, it gets the old name back :frown:

~babumuchhala
http://www.muchhalasworld.uni.cc

netwolf 18. June 2006, 17:57

Strange, this one is the first that install to another folder.
I have 2 installations, one in \Opera (which is Opera 8.x) and another one in \Opera9 which is the one with all the 9x betas/weeklies.
Until this build, all versions proposed \Opera9 dir, only this one had \Opera as default installation folder.
Just wanted to mention it, probably that's by design anyway.

klingoncowboy4 18. June 2006, 18:13

That was close I thought I had lost 7 of my saved tabs. When I loaded up this build after install only two came up. Luckily about a secound reload they came back.

pessotti 18. June 2006, 18:15

Better than that only the brazilian victory over Australia!

dgattenb 18. June 2006, 18:15

I have found in the last few realses, some web pages ... which have alot of java in them do not load at all, you just get a blank screen . you press refresh , and up pops the page complete. I have found pictures dont prompt fot the save as option , then juts save to the defualt area.. eg desktop...

stewie 18. June 2006, 18:38

interesting.. sites such as http://www.gamehouse.com and http://www.hit.bg won't even open... can anyone confirm this ? :D

PeterRabbit 18. June 2006, 18:41

#13 Wah.

lukjan 18. June 2006, 18:45

good

miltonari 18. June 2006, 18:51

Downloading!!!

Rijk 18. June 2006, 18:56

Originally posted by babumuchhala:

BUG: Unable to Rename Feed names.

It renames it self in the manage feeds window, but when u click OK and the check the feeds menu, it gets the old name back



Indeed, known issue.

Originally posted by netwolf:

Strange, this one is the first that install to another folder.
I have 2 installations, one in \Opera (which is Opera 8.x) and another one in \Opera9 which is the one with all the 9x betas/weeklies.
Until this build, all versions proposed \Opera9 dir, only this one had \Opera as default installation folder.
Just wanted to mention it, probably that's by design anyway.



That's by design indeed. The Classic installer now also defaults to the 'normal' installation folder, the MSI installer started doing that a few days back.

JimmyP 18. June 2006, 18:58

There are some little bugs in Opera since months ago which i thought should've been fixed until now, but seems they're not.
The first one is like some skin problem: Select "Read feeds" from "Feeds" menu. It'll open a new tab. If you look carefully to the "Tab bar" you'll notice that there's no icon/image for the "Newsfeeds" tab. Opera should considers a line like "Newsfeed = buttons/feed.png" (and its subcommands like .hover & .pressed) in the skin.ini file.

Also, there is another thing which is related to the "Newsfeeds". Why we can't see Newsfeeds and Mails tabs simultaneously? If you have the Newsfeeds tab opend, and select "Read Mail" from "Mail" menu, it'll replace the Newsfeeds tab instead of opening a new tab (and opposite). (Also we have a similar problem with "About Opera" tab which exist sice the old times, of course you know it! If one wants to know some information about his Opera version, he, in an unfair manner, will loose the current tab! Don't say he can press the back button to back to the last page, it isn't a good way and also it doesn't always work...)

The last thing, is Back & Forward's problem in the "Bookmarks", "Read Mail" and maybe some other tabs. Place the Back & Forward buttons for example in the Bookmarks tab and explore some folders. See? The Back & Forward buttons won't change from their inactive situation! This is annoying, while Microsoft adds a nice pair of Back-Forward button to all its products(From IE7, WMP11, Windows Defender to everywhere in Windows Vista) the inexistence of these buttons in some programs will bother users, and in Opera, even when you add it to the Bookmarks & Mails tabs manually, it doesn't work!

Hope you guys decide to get ride of these little problems as soon as possible! (Maybe in the future's Weekly/Mid-weekly/Weekendly/ daily/nightly builds! :wink: )

xErath 18. June 2006, 19:06

Incredible.. I just went through my collection of about 60 bug links.. none fixed ! except the pdf thingie. Yet, the build number increased by 8 ! :faint:
And Opera 9 final is almost there...

cafesote 18. June 2006, 19:09

You continues making a good work to become this platform more dynamic and stable. But not forgetting that the Internet is becoming a big marketing strategy, and I find that an internal species of adblock could be developed, and easy to configure. I know that filters can be added, but exactly thus many fail, therefore this suggestion would be a great form to popularize more Opera. I have friends that had loved opera, but say that the advantage of FF, is exactly the extension adblock. Well, an internal gerenciator would be great: "the final touch".

Sorry my poor english. :wink:

d.i.z. 18. June 2006, 19:16

Originally posted by xErath:

Yet, the build number increased by 8 !
And Opera 9 final is almost there...


By 5, not by 8 :smile:
And from what I know, new build is compiled everyday. Even when no changes are made.

But yes, I'm also pissed that some of the most critical regressions weren't (and probably won't be in final) fixed.

velmu 18. June 2006, 19:22

Weekend release... let's see if the rumors about the 20th are true then :smile:

flyingscanian 18. June 2006, 19:31

Not a severe bug (214660) but a bug nontheless... (or maybe actually two)

If I choose edit in the Program plane in the settings dialog you get up a dialog to edit the Mime and file-ending.

If you choose edit for a ready made type the MIME-type will be crossed out. That way you can't edit it. This is right I guess. But the quirky thing is that you can drag text from the file-ending textbox into this greyed out box. If you then press save, it is saved. After that it is impossible to remove since the box is greyed out.

Also, since I have problem with pdf-files and the plugin not wanting to open any documents coming from opera I tried to change the action from the plugin to open with opera. This made the line for pdf-files go away. It is nowhere to be found.

Darken 18. June 2006, 19:36

Same problem with this Windows MSI installer:

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So...
Build 8482 --> Problematic MSI installer
Build 8490 --> All works fine!
Build 8493 --> All works fine!
Build 8496 --> Problematic MSI installer
Build 8501 --> Problematic MSI installer

Installed build 8496 with classic installer, and all works fine! And this build, just uninstalled old Opera build and deleted old folder located at C:\Program Files\Opera and installed this new without problem. After that, just copy all plugins in the new build folder.

OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (all patchs installed)

Also, same probrem with build 8501 (check my last post on build 8496 threat) >>

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Thanx

d.i.z. 18. June 2006, 19:45

Darken: you have something messed up with MSI installer database.

Get Windows Installer Cleanup ( http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;290301 ) and remove old Opera installations from within this program (it won't remove actual directories I think)

PawelW 18. June 2006, 20:02

I have an idea. It is posiible to do "Feeds" in menu bold if there are new feeds?

And one problem, opera slow down a lot on end of downloading files. Then I cant use mouse guest or scroll page. After download finish opera works fine.

seifip 18. June 2006, 20:22

OFFTOP: 2Darken: what wallpaper do you have at these screens?

taussick 18. June 2006, 20:36

oh :D why must be Czech version lil' bugged? why MY language :smile: what a luck that I use English builds p: .. love it :love:

Darken 18. June 2006, 20:39

@ d.i.z.: Euh, nope, that doesn't work. Same problem after the cleanup with Windows Installer Cleanup.

@ seifip: This nice wall --> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/33148928/ :smile:

d.i.z. 18. June 2006, 20:58

Darken: then, as your last resort, you need to mess with regedit.
Go here:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Installer\Products\[some unique string]
and delete "some unique string" keys related to Opera.

I can't tell you exactly which unique string to pick up but you should be able to work it out by looking at the ProductName string.

pepelsbey 18. June 2006, 21:02

Russian translation troubles — appears in first localized build: http://pepelsbey.net/img/opera/opera.rus.png

fearphage 18. June 2006, 21:09

There is a major bug that invovlves opera + lighttpd + fcgi involving ssl.

A few links about this bug:

http://trac.lighttpd.net/trac/ticket/579
http://forum.lighttpd.net/topic/435

I'm not sure if this is an Opera issue dirrectly but it is strange that the config only affects Opera.

Darken 18. June 2006, 22:01

@ d.i.z.: Tested, that doesn't work.

If I delete or rename folder Opera (located at C:\Program Files) and after that, the installation process work fine for this new build (8501).

Also, All works fine for the installation process of theses builds: 8490 & 8493 (new installation and upgrade without delete or rename folder). Strange...

thanx

saito 18. June 2006, 22:02

8501 still can't show contents of some pages for the second time.
Open, close, open it again, then we have only frame border with blank contents. For example;
http://www.nhk.or.jp/bsclassic/crs/index.html

Evo2Me 18. June 2006, 22:02

Since it's late and I am working hard on something more important I will not go through my usual tests with this build ATM. Perhaps I need not rehash the few annoyances (in one case more than that) because the developers work hard to fix them.

Anybody from Opera there to tell me what's up with the strange Flash issue at http://www.iview-multimedia.com? Or the log-in only upon reload? What's behind these bugs, why does the first site work well with Opera as IE, and how come I have to reload http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage to see me logged in?

ResearchWizard 18. June 2006, 23:19

@stewie: the two pages open normal for me

@saito: confirm (seems to be randomly blank frame) - dissappeared after F12 - disable JS + reload, also when JS is activated again

mywapis 19. June 2006, 00:06

When, when, when the final realise?

Darken 19. June 2006, 00:18

"Cannot view source with external application" broken again with two latest builds.

More info and temp solution: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=142303&t=1150676083&page=1#comment1595161

gahbmwM5 19. June 2006, 00:33

Granted that there have been recent 'fixes for the .msi installer'...this is appreciated but I too have had similar experiences as reported by Darken...Yes I have only run (2) .msi installers on my WinXP SP2 laptop ( all the other 20+ Windows weekly builds have been installed via Classic installer with no issues at all...uninstalling), and both instances left orphaned entries within my Add/Remove Section...ect...Also ran the MS .msi installer cleanup tool, but with Opera 9 looking to be possibly released as a Final build shortly then definately the Internal Testing done by the Opera 9 Desktop Team must make this a priority..

On this thread by forum, seasoned veteran and my colleague neeraj_deshmukh, he had filed bug report #, and I also show screenshots similar to what Darken has posted...

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=143164&t=1150676759&page=1#comment1601528

Darken 19. June 2006, 00:37

@ gahbmwM5: I'm happy to read this that I'm not the only one to have this problem. Thanx! :D

lexa77 19. June 2006, 02:37

Hello!
I`m boring you so much...Sorry...
But go to www.pharmindex.ru, for examle, and try search here...
It doesn`t work... UUUffff...
And I want to say: THANK YOU FOR YOUR GREATEST JOB! :-)

kyleabaker 19. June 2006, 03:41

just to restate the issues i have with this build (same as last since fixes don't affect me at all):

In my opinion, the feeds are incomplete without a way to audibly notify the user that a new feed has arrived. The popup is nice but sometimes I don't see it or I'm not right at my desk so a audible message would be more convenient for that case. A few ideas I had were to:
1. leave the option for no audible notification.
2. allow a sound clip to be chosen to play on a new feed arrival.
3. or, use the built in text-to-speech feature to read aloud a specified word or phrase. For example, for opera feeds the users could have it text-to-speech something like "Opera" or "You've got a new Opera feed!", etc. I rely on feeds to keep me up to date on news of all sorts and to get the latest opera builds. I'm sure this would be a feature that most feed users would benefit from.

Also....the odd behavior of.....clicking on an X on a tab and sliding the mouse off before releasing the button. This minimizes maximised tabs if minimizing is enabled, but this should just be ignored by the browser. Deciding not to click the X after pressing down on it shouldn't minimize the tab. This is just a minor annoyance. I think I reported this a while back. Seems like an easy fix. Also occurs with locked tabs when doing this with the lock icon.

The problem with CAPS in the address bar not auto completing is still there. g will pop down http://www.google.com/, but G will not. This is just a case sensitivity issue.

The notes that are made by dragging links or tabs to the notes section are lacking a right click feature to open in new tab, etc. These should have more options than the standard notes. I use them for temporary bookmarks, but without a fast way to open them in a new tab, there aren't as convenient for me. Double clicking only opens in current tab.

After installing and testing the "famous" Flock browser and comparing it to the latest Opera build, I have just a couple of small suggestions. Mostly I laughed at Flock. The install file alone was 7.7mb. Compare that with the features you get in Flock to the file size of either windows installer and the features you get with Opera. If I were the Flock team I'd be embarrassed to release such a large install file with almost no features, lol.

Anyways, at first glance it seems to be an "ok" browser, if that is _all_ you do....browse. But I checked how they handle gmail, and it seems to me that Opera is just a little off on some width issues. I've uploaded screen shots of the problem areas for opera and the correct way to render them as I.E. and Flock both do fine.

-Opera
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2108/opera13aa.jpg
-Flock
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/8426/flock10iy.jpg
-Internet Explorer
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7830/internetexplorer15sv.jpg

...aside from that Flock was absolutely incomparable to Opera.

There were a few nifty right click options such as...
-Select All
-Frame->Save Frame As...

oh, and one more thing, in most other browsers, it is possible to select and image (like selecting text) and copy-n-paste it right into Microsoft Word, but with Opera you can't even select any images because it ignores them as you select. Both Internet Explorer and Flock are capable of this and probably even Mozilla. Is there any reason why Opera isn't supporting this feature?

SlavaU 19. June 2006, 04:40

http://gazeta.ru/lenta.shtml
It's empty and it must not be!
I think it's one of the most serious bug which I saw personally. Because if other bugs are mostly special ones or have some workarounds, here the complete page is empty and you have no indications that something went wrong...

jeevesbond 19. June 2006, 06:09

@ SlavaU This is a common problem: People blaming Opera because a (so-called) web designer doesn't know how to write HTML/CSS. I seriously doubt this is a bug in Opera. The best thing you can do is write them an e-mail explaining that their site doesn't work (and if you can find why tell them that too).

The usual answer is that hardly any of their visitors are using Opera. Naturally that's because their site doesn't work in Opera, so they have to use a different browser, unfortunately designers just don't seem to understand that.

Anyway, I digress! It's good to have a new build. Everything is working fine for me, and to the dissenters: Don't give the Opera people such a hard time - they released on a Sunday didn't they? Now that's dedication!

Thanks Opera (now hurry up and fix those bugs!) :wink:

tcj 19. June 2006, 06:46

I found a strange effect, can anyone confirm or as an idea what happens?

Please open the following page:

http://www.forum-auto.de/

A webpage will open. Now bookmark this page. Close all open pages and open the page via the new bookmark. Now the page doesn't open, it ends in an empty page.

Can anyone confirm? (This works fine with 8.54)

@jeevesbond:
I agree that this may be because some web designers "don't know how to write HTML/CSS". But this page has worked with opera until 8.54, and still work with these versions. It broke down sometime in the 9.0-beta-series.

@opera-developpers: really fine browse, use it for a long time now.

bigbighill 19. June 2006, 06:53

wangjiaji 19. June 2006, 07:17

So that's it for widgets? They're only going to be some separated web pages, forever? :frown:

During an HTTP redirect, the XMLHTTPRequest still gets no headers. And connecting through HTTPS still crashes Opera, when will you fix them?

g4qb 19. June 2006, 08:08

http://www.ozspeedtest.com/

Opera 8.54 returns results
kbps:
KB/s:
Mbps:

Opera 9.00 beta
returns the same results

BUT the font is a CAPS font,
hence it looks like

KBPS:
KB/S: but with the "KB" slightly larger / BOLD
MBPS: the "M"slightly larger / BOLD

karaj 19. June 2006, 08:19

This release is still unable to communicate with proxy!!!
Opera8 and Opera9 beta 1 are working ok. Why did you brake the baheviour?

haavard 19. June 2006, 08:28

karaj, please be more specific.

Rijk 19. June 2006, 08:42

Originally posted by tcj:

Please open the following page:

http://www.forum-auto.de/

A webpage should open. Now bookmark this page. Close all open pages and open the page via the new bookmark. Now the page doesn't open, it ends in an empty page.



Confirmed, very starnge. Probably related to the new plugin activate behavior, this is an all-plugin page.

Workaround: close the non-working page, then press Ctrl+Alt+Z to reopen it.

Could you file a bug report please? https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/

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