Opera Desktop Team

9.02RC2

By olli. Tuesday, 19. September 2006, 15:13:27

One more fix added:
*Fix for bug where reload Fails to Revalidate Inline Content

Please continue to look out for regressions since Opera 9.01 :-)

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9.02RC1Opera 9.02 released

Comments

Tenho # 19. September 2006, 15:29

Thanks for this one.
That bug was unpleasant.

cloudssunshine # 19. September 2006, 15:30

Thanks so much for such fast update!

RyomaNagare # 19. September 2006, 15:34

much better,
one thing is bothering me since 9.02 betas starting rolling out, i've been having huge jumps in memory usage ,
right now with one page open I have 67MB of ram
if i open 3 or 4 tabs it jumps easily to 100, before that it stayed around 35MB

i have 4 pop mail accounts and 2 newsfeeds
i have history remember 500 addreses
memory cache to auto and disk cache to 20 MB

Tamil # 19. September 2006, 15:37

remcolanting # 19. September 2006, 15:42

Wow, this is fast!

Sterkrig # 19. September 2006, 15:44

Too few bugfixes for rc )-:E
So keep on bugslaying!

xErath # 19. September 2006, 15:45

please take a look at this
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=158723

olli # 19. September 2006, 15:47

Sterkrig: Fixing too many bugs when having a RC is not smart

klingoncowboy4 # 19. September 2006, 15:47

Well that was fast

. Still I download the weeklies to help out in testing and because I enjoy upgrading things...

wupperbayer # 19. September 2006, 15:49

The bug fix doesn’t work for me, at least with pictures. I tried this with a (btw. very beautiful) webcam (http://voksenlia.net – yes, I know that’s Norwegian but the webcam itself is the interesting part; I don’t know what’s written there above the picture anyway). With 9.01, the page reloads itself every 1.5 minutes or so, updating the picture. In 9.02, the weather data underneath the picture gets updated every 5 minutes, but the picture doesn’t. As I didn’t change anything between the install of 9.01 and 9.02, I think that’s 9.02-related.

EDIT: Yes, I know I could auto-reload the page every 2 minutes or so, but that can’t really be the only opinion, as it worked as designed in 9.01.

Pinin # 19. September 2006, 15:53

I testet Opera 9.02 8585.

1. open www.celebdaily.com
2. click on image > Click on image
3. Wait till image is loaded complete
4. right click save image
5. click very fast save

Result: image is damage..,-(

Twilo # 19. September 2006, 15:55

I have a cache problem :-(
Opera allways use wrong images

babox # 19. September 2006, 16:07

In www.repubblica.it (an italian newspaper) the 3 blue tabs don't work. It is a regression since Opera 9.01.

rseiler # 19. September 2006, 16:36

Heads up: If you do a "Check for updates" (RC2, RC1, it doesn't matter), you'll see that browser.js is updated with the Yahoo Mail Beta code. Further details:
http://my.opera.com/hallvors/blog/show.dml/471328

vladann # 19. September 2006, 16:37

It's problem here: http://www.tuttocitta.it/tcolnew/index_tcol.html

I can't input text into text area for search street, town or something else.

Thanks

Best Regards

steno # 19. September 2006, 16:49

thaaaaaaank you guys

non-troppo # 19. September 2006, 16:58

wupperbayer: using F5 reloads the image for me - but the meta refresh embedded in the page does not seem to work, that is a regression I'll bug...

EDIT: reported as #229577

twilo: example URL (though a known bug IINM, not with cache but pipelining most probably)?

babox: don't work in 9.01 for me either...

macberger # 19. September 2006, 17:08

Everything's fine, but, pleeassee, give us the volume keys back!

kyleabaker # 19. September 2006, 17:28

@olli and the opera gang
I think releasing updates daily would be an excellent way for us (beta testers) to keep up with bug fixes "realtime" and also be an advantage for you developers. I personally would love to see opera updated in this fasion as it also makes Opera appear to be advancing quickly as well. I understand the issue with fixing too many bugs in an RC, but if released in small stages day-by-day it would help us point out bugs to you.

About these forums, I think there should be a kind of wiki page where we can list known bugs that have existed for a while and then another page for "Regression" bugs that appear in a fresh build. After a new build appears, all previous "Regessions" could go to the known bugs wiki page. This in my opinion would me it easier for us to follow up on bugs and see which ones are still alive. I often find that I'm having to repost bugs that have existed for sometime now hoping to see them fixed. A bug wiki would alway is to just update the bug wiki and then this forum could be used more for it's intended purpose, which i think is to respond on any issues we have with changes in the change log.

Hope that makes sense. I'd be more than happy to help keep a bug list of known and fresh "regression" bugs.

ale5000 # 19. September 2006, 17:41

Ctrl+Z doesn't open closed tab in Opera 9.02.
Someone notice this?

Tamil # 19. September 2006, 17:44

Originally posted by ale5000:

Ctrl+Z doesn't open closed tab in Opera 9.02.

CTRL+Z opens closed tab. Check your keyboard setup.

babox # 19. September 2006, 17:44

@non-troppo
You are right, maybe Repubblica.it webmasters changed some code in the page because it worked...

FataL # 19. September 2006, 18:18

Not for Opera 9.02 since it already RC2...
This search highlighting looks just unacceptable:

Is it known bug?

Supermen # 19. September 2006, 18:22

I'm having problems adding posts to my blog...
The error message is as follows:
400 Bad Request

The server monkeys are not pleased with the data you provided...

Invalid referring page.

I've added a post succesfully few hours ago with the previous version, 9.01.

Is this a browser or site related problem?

MisterE # 19. September 2006, 18:31

Originally posted by "ale5000":

Ctrl+Z doesn't open closed tab in Opera 9.02.

Ctrl+Z makes an undo if you use it in an input field (like the address bar). Alt+Ctrl+Z is the recommended method because it works all the time.

@fatal: yep, I saw that too. Should be fixed.
As a side note, people have been asking for customizable colors for a long time (on the wishlist). I take this ocasion to give my vote to it.

@Supermen: I understood they're working on the site (new hardware & stuff), so I don't think the browser is the problem.

EDIT: nope, I got that too, than I saw I was logged out. Had to re-login.
Opera staff, please investigate. If the cookies are being dropped suddenly (after a period maybe), this is a regression from 9.01.

MisterE # 19. September 2006, 18:41

Yes! I logged into yahoo mail beta for the first time using Opera.
Good job, Hallvord. It's kind'a slow and the drag&drop selects text, but IT WORKS. YEY!
Looking forward to when Opera will be a supported browser (=both Yahoo & Opera work out bugs), but this is a great step forward.

operafan2006 # 19. September 2006, 18:46

isn't the memory consumption is higher from original opera9 to opera 9.01 and now in opera 9.02?

HeeZy # 19. September 2006, 18:57

yahoo mail beta works here with the new browser.js, but really slow. and i can't help but notice the regression in speed compared to Opera 8.54, which is my main browser. please look into fixing the speed and stability.

thanx.!!

mywapis # 19. September 2006, 19:00

thanx.!!

rseiler # 19. September 2006, 19:03

@Heezy, there is no regression in speed with Yahoo Mail Beta, since it never worked in any Opera version before today. As for why it's slow, see the link I posted above. Opera was forced into a Frankenpatch and black magic just to get it working at all. It'll be slow for a while, or possibly until Yahoo makes the adjustments on their end obviating the need for the workarounds.

Snapshot # 19. September 2006, 19:11

I have one suggest. I think the preview site on tabs isn't nice. It should has only title and address (MIME and encode isn't important). Text should be center and not next to pic - on the top! Title can be bold. Maybe something like Vista preview?

_Grey_ # 19. September 2006, 19:35

@snapshot: The only thing where I don't disagree (=agree) is that the title should indeed be bold. It helps navigation.

Other than that... no. Mimetype is very important to me; in fact that's the only reason I use the tooltip; to ensure the server sent the right mimetype. It isn't very irritating also. No need to remove it, imho.

@desktopteam: Thanks for putting special effort into this very bug :]

jrronimo # 19. September 2006, 19:37

Everything's fine, but, pleeassee, give us the volume keys back!

Seconded! There is no reason for Opera to take control of my volume keys: I'm not using Media Center, nor do I have a MCE Keyboard. Just plain USB keyboard with volume keys.

andresruiz # 19. September 2006, 19:39

Tanks for the bug fix guys.
You must fight against the dark side making Opera stronger everyday.

IE and Firefox are still on 1st and 2nd places...far from us so...please...Hurry

OperaBuddy # 19. September 2006, 20:05

still hanging on advertisements....

Snapshot # 19. September 2006, 20:17

@_Grey_: If you want to see MIME you can see that in proportions. But for "normal" users it isn't important.

thepunisher # 19. September 2006, 20:31

Still no fix for these serious bugs as outlined below. Is it so hard to fix the registry looping issue? It needs to be done on startup only: Here are more details:

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=156692

ale5000 # 19. September 2006, 21:02

Pages with frames like http://ale5000.altervista.org/ are showed incorrectly in the preview tooltip.

SpireStone # 19. September 2006, 21:21

There had been observed incorrect Opera browser functioning upon WAP pages since the 9th version.
For instance visits with Opera 9.02 RC1
and Opera 8.54 the next WAP pages

http://wap.mig33.com/
http://wap.mag.su/

Check out, please.

SailorMax # 19. September 2006, 21:45

crash on widget "EarthQuakes Map" (http://widgets.opera.com/widget/5178)

bug N229607

rseiler # 19. September 2006, 21:50

@Thepunisher: Thanks for bringing that to the attention of this forum. I knew about the file-access issue in Transfers (now fixed in 9.02), but was blindsided (again!) by the Registry access problem, which wasn't present in 8.54. I added to your thread:

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=156692

This is one regression that should be nixed for 9.02 final.

ale5000 # 19. September 2006, 23:22

When appears this in error console: "Too many CSS errors bailing out"
The following CSS is ignored or it is only a warning?

Mangix # 19. September 2006, 23:31

this website makes the latest version crash. well, it doesn't crash, but after trying to open it, Opera can't close the tabs but can navagate through them. it also can't load anything new. quite an annoying issue.

http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php?license=free

tool462rules # 20. September 2006, 00:24

Not sure if this is a regression or what, but Looprumors.com doesn't render right on RC2 for Linux .6 shared qt.

:-) in the market for a mac.

Naelphin # 20. September 2006, 00:24

Please ignore RyomaNagare, take all the RAM possible. I didn't install extra RAM to sit there unused.

kyleabaker # 20. September 2006, 01:44

@Mangix
That page loads fine here and the tab closes fine as well. No issues at all.

@tool462rules
http://www.looprumors.com/ appears to be loading fine here on win32XP sp2 Opera9.02.8585. Could you link to an uploaded screenshot of the problem? That way if we can't reproduce the error we can get an idea of where the error is occurring.

@Naelphin & RyomaNagare
I can't remember where this was discussed previously, but as I recall, Opera is designed to use more ram when it is availible and not needed. This means that if it is the only app you have opened it is going to us alot, and less with the more apps you open depending on their ram usage. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, or post a link to where that was discussed if you can find it.

@opera team
SVG is still eating at my computer's cpu usage...
http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/svg/
...this demo easily owns atleast 50% of my cpu, bouncing continuously between 30-60% until the tab is closed. Without the tab opened it returns to it's normal 3-4% usage, bouncing at max to 20% and thats with around 15 tabs opened.

Also, at http://www.writely.com/?&browserok=true ...everything works fine except for the styles drop down menu when editing a paper. Does anyone know why the styles drop down menu would not work while all of the other menus work fine?

Cryptobionika # 20. September 2006, 01:47

JavaScript error with big white space in Yahoo! Mail mailbox IS A REGRESSION since 9.00. In 9.00 there wasn't a JavaScript error with big white space there.

ahpatel # 20. September 2006, 02:12

I use blogbridge (www.blogbridge.com) as my Feed aggregator. Starting with 9.02, clicking on links in blogbridge do not open in new tab windows but instead reuse a single tab.

At first, I thought it must have been an issue with blogbridge, but when I changed my default browser to firefox, blogbridge opens tabs in new windows as expected.

Of course, opening links from Outlook or Word do open in new Opera tabs. So, I'm not sure which piece of software is at fault.

Any tips on troubleshooting? If so, please post at
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=158917&t=1158718704&page=1#comment1743346