Opera Desktop Team

Opera 9.1 weekly build

By olli. Friday, November 24, 2006 5:23:51 PM

We have fixed some important problems in this build and we are now much closer to release. Please remember that these builds are not well tested and not intended as production releases :-)


Changelog:
  • Windows media plugin now works even if java is disabled
  • Fixed hanging when hovering some pages, for example elkjop.no
  • Fixed issue with floating point numbers treated as integers on some linux systems (caused some CSS and scripts to fail)
  • Several Fraud protection fixes
  • Several Memory leak and crash fixes
  • Wand data is stored in a new format - please read below!


We made a change to the format Wand data is stored in: this means that if you upgrade to this build, you should not downgrade to a build with the previous format, as you would lose your Wand data. If you choose to upgrade an existing Opera install (note that we recommend against this with weekly builds), and you want to be on the safe side, please make a manual backup of the file wand.dat in your profile before ugprading. And sslcert6.dat if you protect is using wand. The new format also might mean that *some* data for logins *might* not be available anymore: we would very much appreciate feedback about this, with a URL to the page where you lost your Wand data.

You may have read about a phishing attack on MySpace that took advantage of
automatic form filling in other browsers. Although Opera was not directly
affected, these new changes make it even harder for users to be tricked by this attack.

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One more step towards 9.10It's December!

Comments

Kostia RomanovKildor Friday, November 24, 2006 5:24:18 PM

;-)
thanks

Tamil Friday, November 24, 2006 5:25:35 PM

Thanks smile

ale5000 Friday, November 24, 2006 5:28:49 PM

Thanks.

chrislu Friday, November 24, 2006 5:29:30 PM

THANKS

Dserldserl Friday, November 24, 2006 5:31:20 PM

Cool!

Zotho Friday, November 24, 2006 5:33:40 PM

What exactly are the changes made to the wand file? Better encryption? Or just storage?
Thanks for updating smile

tdzark Friday, November 24, 2006 5:33:57 PM

Nice smile Has the new Wand data format anything to do with the security issues recently found with IE's and FF's 'wand' implementation?

Andresandresruiz Friday, November 24, 2006 5:42:38 PM

Hi
Thanks for this new build, I'll test a some pages that used to fail.

Andres Ruiz

olli Friday, November 24, 2006 5:45:38 PM

dzark,: Yes updated the post :-)

MyOpera team, please fix this!fearphage Friday, November 24, 2006 5:48:16 PM

@devs: With weeklies and full releases, do you do diff testing comparing upgrades to new installs? Why is the upgrade process so risky? In theory, upgrades should look exactly like a new install excluding customizeable aspects.

My upgrade is completely unusable. Its always at 80-98% cpu usage. It won't let me click links or click form buttons. I had to do a clean install just to be able to use it. Upgrading utterly destroyed my old install. This should not be a risk. I would like to report this as a bug but I don't know which files/settings to send with it. Any help would be appreciated. Its strange that I seem to be the only one experiencing things like this in these last 2 builds.

Tommy A. Olsentoman Friday, November 24, 2006 5:50:38 PM

Zotho, its just the storage format that has changed.

Tri M. NguyenTriMN Friday, November 24, 2006 5:58:24 PM

Hi!

I still can't see the content when choosing a chapter on this page:
http://gyldendal.no/senit/content/default.asp

A Schoolbook in Norway (VGS)


btw. Thanks for a new build! smile

Ricardo FerreiraRichardCooper Friday, November 24, 2006 5:59:03 PM

How do use the last version of wand?

chrislu Friday, November 24, 2006 5:59:28 PM

issues stay:

1. i have an urgent issue which is present since several versions.

i have an imapt account at my university. now i have to accept the certificate everytime i check for mails, the install button is always grayed out. i tried reinstalling opera from scratch and to install the certificates directly. they appear under the security settings and i uncheckt to warn me everytime i use the certificate.

why is that?

the warning reads:
"- The certificate for "mailgate.uni-weimar.de" is signed by the unknown Certificate Authority "BU Weimar CA". It is not possible to verify that this is a valid certificate"

problem is the certificate is allready installed. i installed them directly from the following links (at the bottom). up until i think 9.01 i could use these certificates without problems.

http://www.uni-weimar.de/cms/Electronic_Mail.1734.0.html

2. another thing like the image problem:

navigate to a new page. while it loads press the back button. then navigate forward with the forward button again to the half loaded page. the loading will not continue and the page stays half loaded.


Petr DlouhýHustan Friday, November 24, 2006 5:59:33 PM

The new wand format is litle bit unpleasant, because it disable possibility to have same opera-config for more Opera versions.
Please write a reason, because if it is just for fun, I will be angry.

gjustus Friday, November 24, 2006 6:04:08 PM

The last several builds (don't remember exactly which one), including this one, has not saved the associated username with the password when I visit sites, then delete private data. In other words, it remembers the password but not the username. Anyone have any ideas?

Here's 1 example: https://login.yahoo.com/config/login_verify2?.done=http://fantasysports.yahoo.com&.src=spt&.intl=us

ChristianResearchWizard Friday, November 24, 2006 6:04:48 PM

@fearpage: no problems here (WinXP SP2)

@Opera devs: thanks a lot, it seems we get closer to a release - my guess was it will be in about 3 weeks

Alexandrmywapis Friday, November 24, 2006 6:10:38 PM

eeeeeeah! New OPERA build! This build to sexy!

João EirasxErath Friday, November 24, 2006 6:12:50 PM

When 9.1 goes out, lots of people will probably have problem or want to go back to a previous version, so Opera must make a backup of wand.dat automatically.

alf245 Friday, November 24, 2006 6:27:12 PM

The Linux build sucks again as scrolling via keyboard remains extremely choppy when several tabs are open (bug #238121). This regression exists for over five months now (since build 339).

Johan Borgborg Friday, November 24, 2006 6:29:05 PM

@Hustan: It's definitely not for fun. We remember more data related to the login to make it much harder for someone to exploit weaknesses as those discovered on MySpace earlier this week. Even if Opera couldn't be tricked to *automatically* give away passwords, as in some other browsers (...) we still felt the need to improve our security measures for the future.

gilb Friday, November 24, 2006 6:38:55 PM

What the new format of wand? what folder?

Immanis Friday, November 24, 2006 6:39:38 PM

Is always good to hear the focus on security in the Opera development team. I hope the antiphishing gets improved before the release of 9.1, because the current implementation still has some holes. For example, the url

http://200.119.135.99/ebay/login5878/

triggers the fraud protection window, but a simple obfuscation like

http://200.119.135.099/ebay/login5878/ (notice the .099 instead the .99)

go unnoticed.

Keep the good work

Le()niD Friday, November 24, 2006 6:59:31 PM

Just upgraded

Don't use wand

everything seems OK smile


At least something good that friday for me sad

Thank U smile

omeow Friday, November 24, 2006 7:12:30 PM

I'd love to see a tiny improveament in the spelling checker, where instead of it trying to replace the wrongly spelled word with the word I spelled wrong, it would replace with the first suggestion that comes up.

I'll include this screenshot to illustrate my point.

Screenshot of Opera's spell checker

In this screenshot, the incorrectly spelled word is improveament, and automatically the spelling checker will fill in wrong word again, improveament.

Why doesn't it just pick the first suggestion from the list since that's what I want anyway? Why would you want to replace an incorrectly spelled word with the incorrect spelling again?

Finally, don't forget to remove the dot from the "Enable Fraud Protection." string wink

yksyks Friday, November 24, 2006 7:17:31 PM

Still not working rounded navigation elements at most of tv.com pages, making the most of the site unusable. I'm reporting this via the "Report a site problem" feature since appearance of version 9 with every new weekly, but to no avail (prior versions were okay, of course). Anyone ever noticed slightest reaction to this reports, or do they all end up in trash?

Andresandresruiz Friday, November 24, 2006 7:24:41 PM

Hi again

Well, I still doesn't have a scroll-bar on yahoo mail beta, so I can't see all my mail. that's a big problem

on <http://www.sony.com.co/corporate> I have the same problem with the menus, they open under the "SONY STYLE SANTAFÉ", "SONY VAIO..." buttons, so you can't see and/or use those menus [registro, productos, minisitios...]

I tested a webpage that shows wmv videos using the plugin, and it seems to work fine, as always on that page. ??

That's all I can say by now.

Happy bug solving.

Bye

Thanks again

Andres Ruiz

Zeus Huntzeushunt Friday, November 24, 2006 7:49:31 PM

Background music does not play, we have this problem with firefox and opera, they don't play music background file which loads with a site. Example: www.wuvstowy.tk
The music plays on IE..

Was Hoping the Update "Windows media plugin now works even if java is disabled" had resolved it.. but nogo

Anything that should have been coded differently, on the site.. for compatibility

GiSkArD Friday, November 24, 2006 7:50:10 PM

Hi,

I tried this build in hope as thought it work with flash plugin 9. But it doesnt works.

Øystein Riber RyenUndertow Friday, November 24, 2006 7:51:03 PM


on <http://www.sony.com.co/corporate> I have the same problem with the menus, they open under the "SONY STYLE SANTAFÉ", "SONY VAIO..." buttons, so you can't see and/or use those menus [registro, productos, minisitios...]


That's a site problem not an Opera bug (they have forgotten to add wmode="transparent" to the embed-tag). It doesn't work in Firefox either so they'll probably fix it soon.

Martinmax17 Friday, November 24, 2006 7:57:35 PM

next build this: 8666 ]:>

rseiler Friday, November 24, 2006 7:58:16 PM

Idea for comment thread: Have people from Opera immediately stand out, whether via a different color, particular avatar, whatever.

Idea for comment feed: Include usernames in the feed. Without them, the feed is much less useful.

Andresandresruiz Friday, November 24, 2006 7:58:18 PM

Hi again

More bugs, sorry !

A friend of mine just sent me some photos by e-mail to my Windows Live Mail. when I received the mail, it had 29 photos as attachments, so I click on any of them, then click on [open] but Opera opens the photo incomplete, no more than 10-20% of the image. So I have to click on [Download] in order to get the full complete jpg file.

Is a bug, yes?

Tks again

Andres Ruiz

PD: @omeow. How do you put that image on the blog? I only know how to post the link, but I don't know how to post the image directly on the blog.

illiad Friday, November 24, 2006 8:08:17 PM

... and befor you *lose* your stuff, **make a backup**!!

- its as simple as copying your profile (or even the whole opera folder!!) to a safe place....

Idea for comment feed: make it just like the community forum, much easier to manage!!

wupperbayer Friday, November 24, 2006 8:14:19 PM

Well, I just found something very bad while testing some Phishingsites listed at dslreports.com:



Excuse me, but... WTF? That is a reported *phishing* page!

Rijk Friday, November 24, 2006 8:14:35 PM

@fearphage:

With weeklies and full releases, do you do diff testing comparing upgrades to new installs? Why is the upgrade process so risky? In theory, upgrades should look exactly like a new install excluding customizeable aspects.



There are several internal testers that routinely do upgrade installations - and lots of testers here as well, I think. If there is a problem that occurs because of upgrading, we usually catch it. Yours is most likely not a typical problem... good for use maybe, not for you.

My upgrade is completely unusable. Its always at 80-98% cpu usage. It won't let me click links or click form buttons. I had to do a clean install just to be able to use it. Upgrading utterly destroyed my old install. This should not be a risk. I would like to report this as a bug but I don't know which files/settings to send with it. Any help would be appreciated.



First of all: this is not related to the specific pages you start with?

You could try to figure out where things go wrong. Assuming you don't have a very special setup, you can rename opera6.ini in the Profile directory and then start. If that still shows the problems, the issue might be with plugins, saved sessions, broken custom skin, cookies, wand data, bookmarks. If the issue is gone with a newly generated opera6.ini, you (we) can try to see what suprises are hidden in this file.

Götz Bürklegoetz Friday, November 24, 2006 8:25:56 PM

Hi,
I don't know, whether it's a local network problem or not, but since the last two builds Opera couldn't load any pages. Firefox and IE have no problems, but Amaya doesn't get connected to any server as well.
Maybe, it's only a local problem of my installation, maybe it's an Opera problem. I'm using Win XP Pro SP2 on an IBM Thinkpad T40p.

Rijk Friday, November 24, 2006 8:26:09 PM

@frisby:

I still can't see the content when choosing a chapter on this page:
http://gyldendal.no/senit/content/default.asp



The first report I see in our bug tracking system is from three days ago... (report 239718)

It seems to be a plugin problem - the plugin warns about a cross-site security issue in Opera 9.0x and other browsers, but in Opera 9.10 you don't get the chance to permit this risky behavior.

Rijk Friday, November 24, 2006 8:27:47 PM

@goetz: do you have local proxy or firewall software installed, like ZoneAlarm? If so, make sure Opera and Amaya are not blocked by the firewall...

Rijk Friday, November 24, 2006 8:32:04 PM

@wupperbayer:

Maybe the site miem.edu.ru has been verified as OK? If this site allows people file uploads without accountability (the URL seems to indicate this), they should be un-verified. I think you/we should use the 'Feedback' button...

Götz Bürklegoetz Friday, November 24, 2006 8:37:41 PM

Hi Rijk, F-Secure 2006 and/or Windows XP SP2 Firewall are running, but there are rules to allow Opera internet access. Before the upgrade everything was fine, but I installed some Windows updates, perhaps they may cause the problem.
I'll restart my machine, it may help ...

wupperbayer Friday, November 24, 2006 8:38:12 PM

@Rijk: Already did that, as for some phishing sites reported by dslreports.com before smile

JasmoJazmo Friday, November 24, 2006 8:38:12 PM

Still can't log in to account in https://www.beatport.com/
It works with IE. It also pops up irritating security popups while surfing the site. You should somehow be able to answer "yes to all in this domain". Otherwise that's too irritating.

I've problems with email that is sent from a Mac (whatever is the default mail program there). The attachments does not show up in Opera. If i check full message body, i see that base64 string there but opera can't interprete it.

Rijk Friday, November 24, 2006 8:42:34 PM

@zeus_hunt:

Background music does not play, we have this problem with firefox and opera, they don't play music background file which loads with a site. Example: www.wuvstowy.tk
The music plays on IE..



This has nothing to do with beta testing, really. These threads are meant for issues that are new in Opera 9.10.

Opera does support the BGSOUND element, IIRC, but only with directly supported sound formats (wav and midi). Not with formats that require a plugin to load. Netscape/Firefox has never supported this element.

See http://www.htmlcodetutorial.com/sounds/sounds_famsupp_18.html for some more info on cross-browser background sounds. And be aware that not everyone appreciates background sounds...

Rijk Friday, November 24, 2006 8:45:41 PM

@yksyks:

'Report a site' is mostly used for statistical purposes, sites that get reported a lot get a better look. If you can spare a minute, please fill out a complete bug report at http://bugs.opera.com/wizard/ . All bugs reported there get serious attention.

Rijk Friday, November 24, 2006 8:47:45 PM

@Immanis:

The second URL with the extra 0 doesn't resolve here, Opera can't find that server. So I can'ty confirm there is a problem there.

Immanis Friday, November 24, 2006 8:54:36 PM

I just check again from the posted link and got redirected to the fake eBay sign-in page.

If it helps, i'm using Windows XP SP 2

Rijk Friday, November 24, 2006 8:55:35 PM

@Hustan: sharing user data files between multiple active Opera installations is never a good idea, even if you always remember to not run them at the same time ...

@gilb: Opera still uses the same file, wand.dat in the Profile directory.

Dierk HaasisEvo2Me Friday, November 24, 2006 8:57:44 PM

Are the Expiry periods still wrongly labelled [Expiry (Hours) actually being days)?

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