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By borg. Friday, 19. January 2007, 16:10:04

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Attention: This build is experimental.

It contains a feature reporting system that will report back usage of a number of features to Opera once per week. This allows us to know more about how you all use our product in an anonymous way.

The idea is that while some people tell us about their wishes and concerns in the blog and forums, thousands of people download the weeklies without giving direct feedback. By using a build with feature reporting, they will also contribute to improving the product for all of us.

Yes, you can turn the feature off:
opera:config#UserPrefs|EnableUsageReport

Normally we don't ask you to install a weekly on top of a final version, but if you dare do so this time it will help us get more correct data, making sure that we continue to make a better browser for YOU.


So, what does the report contain?

You can check yourself, a copy of the next report is stored in the Opera profile directory, under usagereport/report.xml. It reports things like what preferences you have enabled or not, whether you use Widgets or not, and how many bookmarks you have. Only numbers*, no domain names or other sensitive data.

*) Excluding Visa and MasterCard :angel:

Changelog:
  • Included experimental feature reporting mechanism
  • Java works again
  • Some stability fixes
  • URL entered in detached tab now actually opens it in the detached tab
  • Quick find in windows panel now searches in windows panel if both are open
  • Visited links "Expiry" settings now work properly


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Yahoo!!! The First!!!

By tsarhan, # 19. January 2007, 18:59:02

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2nd

By MihLab, # 19. January 2007, 18:59:17

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3rd Yay, this way Opera team can fix the bugs better... Thanks. :smile:

By Vempire, # 19. January 2007, 19:04:24

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Reports back to Opera.. hummm....
Sure Anything to make Opera mail better!!! :wink:


By paulg_ca, # 19. January 2007, 19:04:25

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better FTP P:

By MrFukov, # 19. January 2007, 19:04:52

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Java is back :up:

By Investor, # 19. January 2007, 19:09:12

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Cool.

By Spidah, # 19. January 2007, 19:11:52

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Great feature with the usage reports! Hope you get something useful out of it :smile:

/ Karl

By LordDaimos, # 19. January 2007, 19:14:50

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I hope UsageReport will be disabeld by default in the final!?

By Teal_One, # 19. January 2007, 19:18:17

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I'm always ready to contribute, count me in one having the feature enabled at all times. :wink: Good thinking desktop team!

By kyleabaker, # 19. January 2007, 19:21:01

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I would hate to see the reporting system to be enabled in the final build by default.

Edit: Thanks Teal_One, didn't see your post.

By Fork, # 19. January 2007, 19:27:22

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Lovely build.

By d.i.z., # 19. January 2007, 19:28:25

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Does this report also contain the amount of opera hang ups during email check? :wink:
I hope so.

By Jimmy704, # 19. January 2007, 19:28:52

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Sounds great! :smile: All my data are belong to you.

By Fyrd, # 19. January 2007, 19:34:21

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Well, I always install the weeklies over the final builds. Which means I don't have a final build to test with right now (and downgrading is a bit of a pain).

I do like the new reporting feature.

Thanks for the new build. I'll have a lot of fun with it... :wink:

By GT500, # 19. January 2007, 19:39:23

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Everything to make Opera better...
Thanks guys!

By roentgen666, # 19. January 2007, 19:40:57

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Hmm, where can I find the usagereport on the Mac version? Didn't see it under Library/Preferences/Opera Preferences, or won't it be created until later?

By Fyrd, # 19. January 2007, 19:41:38

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not a big fan of any type of reporting, but I love Opera so much and want it to succeed, that I will use it enabled on my work machine(where I do most of my surfing anyways)

Go Opera!

Smokescreen

By smokescreen, # 19. January 2007, 19:41:49

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Great feature, curious to find out what you are looking at... (the usagereport folder doesn't seem to be created yet)

I would think it is OK to place in the final version too, just directly add the option to turn it on or off in the initial info-screen.

@Fyrd: you have to type(or copy paste) opera:config#UserPrefs|EnableUsageReport in the addressbar

By lvanderree, # 19. January 2007, 19:54:59

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Hi, guys!

1. So when you FIIIIIX bug with HOR. SRCOLL on ADOBE.com???
Is it so hard, or eve impossible?
On Opera 9.12 it doesn't fixed!!!

Please, fix it!.

2. Also bud with GUI of Tools/Preferences/Lang/Details

3. Bug with buttons (right margin)

By tsarhan, # 19. January 2007, 19:59:15

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Hi
Thanks, downloading Build 8701, I wont disable the reporting feature and hope you all help Opera help YOU.

Maybe it could be great if final version have the same feature.

Bye

By andresruiz, # 19. January 2007, 20:00:04

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By using a build with feature reporting, they will also contribute to improving the product for all of us.

Hmm... Feel free to extend that to... crash and freeze reporting :wink:

By Investor, # 19. January 2007, 20:01:40

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Originally posted by Investor:

Java is back


Checking ... YES, it is! ... and since the random rendering bug hasn't shown up over a couple of "F5"s yet:

"Do you, Kenny Crudup, take Opera for Linux 9.12 Build 543 to be your lawfully-wedded wife?"

"I do."

:smile:

(Somebody should warn "her" about how fickle I am, though- next week, I might be ready to marry another build :smile:)

By kennycrudup, # 19. January 2007, 20:12:14

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Oh, and to the Devs: perhaps you should give "EnableUsageReport" a number of levels, so that those of us who really want to help can set it higher to send even more info. Say where "0 = disabled" up to "3 = sends all your relevant system runtime information, and even some of your better pr0n from your download directory, as a goodie for the Devs". :smile:

By kennycrudup, # 19. January 2007, 20:15:15

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@Fyrd: It may not be there immediately, but the folder appeared after about 10 minutes here.

By Junyor, # 19. January 2007, 20:17:13

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Originally posted by kennycrudup:

as a goodie for the Devs


Ohhh, that would certainly be a good incentive! :D

By csant, # 19. January 2007, 20:17:14

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Originally posted by Borg:

Only numbers*, no domain names or other sensitive data.

*Excluding Visa and MasterCard

... so my AmEx is fair game? :smile:

By kennycrudup, # 19. January 2007, 20:17:14

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BTW, the OS is given by the UA string.

By csant, # 19. January 2007, 20:20:08

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Opera Team: When did you expect to correct save pic bug???

I saved (right click save image) the last hour over 150 picures.

All works perfect but when I open this site:
Warning! Celeb Site: www.celebdaily.com

I have only damaged pictures.

-When I save the picture with Strg+Click it´s perfect.
-When is save the complete!! loaded picture with right
click "save image" the loading-progress begin a second time??
So when I klick save without waiting the second time load
process is ended its damage.

By Pinin, # 19. January 2007, 20:26:47

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@Pinin: Bug number?

By Junyor, # 19. January 2007, 20:36:54

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Hi again.

Maybe is just in this moment, but Yahoo Mail Beta is not loading.

I tried deleting cookies but doesn't work.

By andresruiz, # 19. January 2007, 20:41:25

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I like the "Big Brother" tag on this post.

Usability Testing! Nice work... one of the hallmarks of usability testing is "never *ask* the user what they want... just observe them!" Asking a user could lead the developers astray for several reasons (which I'll outline in a blog post :smile: )

By Eddie_Lopez, # 19. January 2007, 20:42:31

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@Junyor

It still didn't appear for me until just now, I restarted the browser. :smile: Thanks! *goes off to discover his most intimate details*

@kennycrudup

You could try adding more data to that xml file yourself, I guess...though I'm not sure if it'd stay that way when sent. :wink:

By Fyrd, # 19. January 2007, 20:43:08

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thanks !!!

By LA_01, # 19. January 2007, 20:43:25

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Hmm, the "Widgets" section notes that I have 45 widgets installed, however I only run three of them most of the time (that start with the browser). Perhaps another value worth adding for next update? :smile:

By Fyrd, # 19. January 2007, 20:52:44

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Why when I open this report.xml in Opera I see just digits? Under Firefox it shows the source tree of the file...

By Dro77naR, # 19. January 2007, 20:52:44

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@Dro77naR

Try a text editor.

Edit: Well I guess Firefox would have the same effect as that, so never mind. Looks like Opera's trying to do something else with it...

By Fyrd, # 19. January 2007, 20:53:27

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Very good decision! I will contribute. :smile:

By FataL, # 19. January 2007, 20:55:13

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@Pinin: I've probably saved 2GB of pr0..pictures with Opera since I'd started using it in 2001 and have yet to have one be saved improperly. As myself at one point being the only one crying about a bug endlessly for months before anyone noticed it happening before it got eventually fixed I'm not exactly the one who should doubt you, but have you considered it might be an issue specific to your system? (Note that over time, I either rebuilt or checked nearly every relevant library on my laptop before I was convinced my (now squashed!!) "random rendering bug" wasn't a "Kenny" problem vs. an "Opera" one.)

By kennycrudup, # 19. January 2007, 21:02:33

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@kennycrudup: images broke after they saved second time is well known issue... at least for me :wink:

Couple questions about report:
  • will Opera do it continuously or only one time?
  • when Opera will send report? (at every start, in the middle of the browsing, ...)
  • will you release some summary from reports? (I'm shure that I'm not only one who interested)

By FataL, # 19. January 2007, 21:09:21

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@Fyrd: Good point about including the number of running widgets. We will include that in future update.

By huibk, # 19. January 2007, 21:23:41

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argh y la instalación en español ?

no Spanish language in the msi installer

By hhallian, # 19. January 2007, 21:33:38

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Tipp for another value: Installed "My Buttons"

By Jimmy704, # 19. January 2007, 21:40:00

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Originally posted by hhallian:

argh y la instalación en español ?


¡ argh !

Looks like I uploaded the wrong installer (English only). Will try to see what I can do - but that'll be tomorrow :wink: Sorry.

By csant, # 19. January 2007, 21:43:20

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Excellent idea: usage reports... :up:

More infos >> http://my.opera.com/csant/blog/2007/01/19/my-opera

By Darken, # 19. January 2007, 21:51:53

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HTTPS indicator still not working...

By illiad, # 19. January 2007, 21:58:55

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Yes, tomorrow in spanish. :smile:

By inventao, # 19. January 2007, 21:59:38

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I would totally run this to help you guys, but I don't "dare" to install it on top of 9.10 final (and I don't want the hassle of two installs. I just watch this list to know about the cool up-and-coming stuff :wink:).

Include the usage-reporting in the next final, and I will definitely turn/leave it on!

By MagicM, # 19. January 2007, 22:12:54

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andresruiz: sorry about Yahoo mail, it should load again when the new browser.js is out (should be published any hour now, only delayed by some network problems the server people got busy sorting out yesterday..)

By hallvors, # 19. January 2007, 22:14:26

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+1 illiad

By Kuja IX, # 19. January 2007, 22:15:47

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