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Working hard...

By Johan Borgborg. Friday, February 23, 2007 3:36:32 PM

I hate to write posts like these, but I have to be honest with you: We're not ready to publish our new baby here today. I know, I promised you a new build before the end of the month and we will do whatever is humanly possible to ship a mid-weekly on wednesday (or at least next friday...) angel

You should also be warned that the next weekly will contain rough edges, it will contain incomplete functionality and should be good material for a serious bug hunt wizard

Update:

The WebApplications blog just announced a Web chat next week with our CEO, Jon von Tetzchner.

Have a nice weekend!

Opera code names uncoveredSugar me!

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NoobSaibot Friday, February 23, 2007 3:39:18 PM

You should also be warned that the next weekly will contain rough edges, it will contain incomplete functionality and should be good material for a serious bug hunt



that's the stuff we love wink

kiaM Friday, February 23, 2007 3:44:55 PM

Great news, thanks alot! Have a nice Weekend everybody!

Simon Houstonshoust Friday, February 23, 2007 3:51:34 PM

Can we be given a clue as to what this new feature is at least? smile wink I can't wait p

//markpoleon Friday, February 23, 2007 3:53:30 PM

sad

Pedro Miguel Coelho PereiraVempire Friday, February 23, 2007 3:58:12 PM

I'm gonna diiiiiieeeeee... sad

Brian HuismanGreyWyvern Friday, February 23, 2007 3:59:50 PM

I don't usually pay attention to the weeklies, but new features are always interesting! Even if they turn out to be superfluous wink

法师亡灵法师 Friday, February 23, 2007 4:00:48 PM

b(∩_∩)d

just wait it!

Tamil Friday, February 23, 2007 4:01:01 PM

wait for wednesday.

Khaled KhalilKhaled-Khalil Friday, February 23, 2007 4:03:59 PM

anyway, i always appreciate your efforts smile

ÁlmostigrisAlmostigriss Friday, February 23, 2007 4:08:12 PM

smile well done!..next week? smile

otzi Friday, February 23, 2007 4:14:55 PM

You forced me to shed tears sad

serious Friday, February 23, 2007 4:26:43 PM

aw ... 5 days just waiting and being excited about the new feature sad

WillYum Friday, February 23, 2007 4:38:05 PM

smile smile Just building the anticipation.

Don't disappoint boys wink I don't think you will.

Yum

MihLab Friday, February 23, 2007 4:47:06 PM

Лентяи

rxbbx Friday, February 23, 2007 4:52:50 PM

Doesn't matter. Have a nice weekend..

impotent Friday, February 23, 2007 5:03:25 PM

Waiting desperately for the falcon wings, to take a plunge.

Charlescalande Friday, February 23, 2007 5:10:04 PM

Maybe HTML WYSIWYG Editing for M2 smile

meesix Friday, February 23, 2007 5:10:18 PM

Yup, guys, give us a little hint to think of new features smile

2Calande: It could be nice smile Maybe spellcheck? smile

Mr. Pattonpattoncito Friday, February 23, 2007 5:27:55 PM

there's no rush. Just keep on your good work.

Medium Friday, February 23, 2007 5:39:03 PM

In my opinion it's a good sign for new build!

illiad Friday, February 23, 2007 5:49:43 PM

<<living dead>>> builds, buiiiiilllds!!! I neeeed buillllds.....bigsmile

Phoenixw2phoenix Friday, February 23, 2007 5:51:14 PM

lot time no fiddle with test build
i am waiting
next week no excuses wink


MathiasCaseyJ Friday, February 23, 2007 5:55:46 PM

no sweat!
just waiting for the party party

Alexis DeveriaFyrd Friday, February 23, 2007 6:00:52 PM

Could we get at least a HINT as to what the new feature might be? smile

tockar Friday, February 23, 2007 6:03:41 PM

We're waiting... smile

KujaIXKuja-IX Friday, February 23, 2007 6:17:36 PM

Have a nice weekend ^^

AlexanderXRock Friday, February 23, 2007 6:50:04 PM

Sounds good. Looks like we'll have some serious stuff next week. Well, I'm looking forward...

HanShenghansheng Friday, February 23, 2007 7:06:38 PM

Good Luck~~`

Kyle Bakerkyleabaker Friday, February 23, 2007 7:21:53 PM

should be good material for a serious bug hunt


Just the thing that most of us here of waiting for! wink Good to see an update even if it doesn't contain a new build to occupy our weekends, haha. Keep up the slaving work! I don't know about the others here, but I'm always excited about a new build...so i'll be waiting til wednesday or friday. bigsmile In my opinion...updates and changelogs, bug status are every bit as exciting as a new build. I think for the most part..we all just enjoy seeing evidence of progress with our favorite web tool! Have a great weekend and relax, you all deserve it! wink

shadowKshadowk Friday, February 23, 2007 7:31:30 PM

i knew this was going to happen, the js dev console is not yet done p I'm sure of it and as for the "new never been seen before" feature i think i have an idea what it will be.

My prediction:
Opera will be the 1st browser which will allow users to port all their information on to any device(that Opera runs on) and i'm not just talking about bookmarks.

Or it my be a new API which will alow javascript to debbug itself, and allow code stepping,adding breakpoints and all that.

Khaled KhalilKhaled-Khalil Friday, February 23, 2007 7:40:26 PM

Originally posted by Junyor:

We will not encrypt mail storage. As I said, that's an OS-level task.

thanks for the warning

in a compact file, such as the Wand storage file, obfusctation and/or encryption makes sense

but why wand password is used ? if this question make sense for you
by the way, using password for locked-screen (that exist in any os) can replace password opera manager, don't tack me as another enemy, i just suggest you to don't bother yourselves with such thing, of course if you concider useless
though, i prefer use my beloved browser's feature, if it was optimal

Storing mail files in plain text has the added benefit of allowing full-text indexing by search engines like Google Desktop and Mac OS X's Spotlight.

that's good reason, but some people give security more periority over usability, and some don't, you could make it as an option.

Andresandresruiz Friday, February 23, 2007 7:46:15 PM

I'll be waiting

Thanks for the report

erpel Friday, February 23, 2007 7:54:18 PM

I have to things that I'd consider really cool features for Opera and I would love to read some other thoughts about them. It's a major and a smaller one.
The smaller one is pretty simple, mac-specific, and inspired by Khaled Khalils post above: A Spotlight importer to be bundled with the application. It could not only index the obvious emails but also Notes, Contacts and Bookmarks. Feeds might be a bit counterproductive probably.

The other one is a big thing: Why not use the my.opera accounts that many of us have for the ability to store our entire set of preferences. Going from searches to bookmarks everything that's not machine-specific like proxys. It would be soooooo ultimately cool to be able to log in to every Opera anywhere and have your settings right there.

stranded Friday, February 23, 2007 8:11:59 PM

Ahh I've expected a new version today ;P but it's fine I'll wait a little longer. Plus I got new Opera Mini 3.1 for testing! smile

Alexandrmywapis Friday, February 23, 2007 9:04:59 PM

Tamil +1)))

Khaled KhalilKhaled-Khalil Friday, February 23, 2007 9:13:34 PM

Originally posted by erpel:

inspired by Khaled Khalils post

to be fair, it is Junyor's idea not mine, i don't index my mails.

Why not use the my.opera accounts that many of us have for the ability to store our entire set of preferences.


+1
that would be a very great idea, i use now 5 operas on 4 different systems (2 linux & 2 XP on 2 computers), and one OperaTor on an usb flash.
and i have i problem setting up all my preferences and customizations, but the biggest problem is for bookmarks and feeds, i never can bakup all of them as the same

Andresandresruiz Friday, February 23, 2007 9:14:35 PM

Did I tell you that "Auto-complete" now works on Yahoo Mail Beta?

FataL Friday, February 23, 2007 10:47:01 PM

We don't have any choice except waiting and guessing next weekly build number... smile Because we don't have any clue about new coming feature. bigsmile
Developers, good luck with compiller.

Dustin WilsonKhadgar Saturday, February 24, 2007 2:01:53 AM

*readies his bug spray* How many gallons should I purchase before the next build? bigsmile

xcvrasz Saturday, February 24, 2007 3:05:15 AM

can we have a debug build? the one with some form of real time monitoring?
I would LOVE to be able to see WHERE exactly opera stalls, what makes her (shes a woman, right?p) choke

gilb Saturday, February 24, 2007 6:30:04 AM

Hi friends

don't forget to promote Opera on DellIdeaStorm

http://www.dellideastorm.com/article/show/62460

Kenneth Crudupkennycrudup Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:23:14 AM

Question: Does Opera size "elements" on rendered pages according to hints or sizes returned by the Font Server in use?!

... stay tuned.

Jorge AbreuJoRgE-1987 Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:26:37 AM

Thanks for the report.

Only I can Wait. smile

Saludos.

DoveD555 Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:44:59 AM

Give to us an enhanced API for browser&plugins. Please , please, please smile !!!

Michelle Beloshitskyitanko Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:49:07 AM

Tnx for message and good luck. :-)

impotent Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:13:46 AM

cya on coming wedensde... till then work very hard & adios

DoveD555 Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:20:08 AM

About API future in Opera .....

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=129257&page=3&skip=100&show=&perscreen=50

illiad Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:37:33 AM

rasz: debug build?? nah, that will wind up too many 'simple folk' ... - and going by the amount of 'secodary sources' that have sprung up, so that builds appear *before* its official, we dont want bad news about *very* unstable builds spreading.... sad

If I guess right, most peeps wont be able to afford the 'debugger' needed for those builds anyway, or the **totally dedicated** machine to run it on.. Its most likely some 'virtual PC' running on AIX or similar - so unless you are a SQL or better programmer, you won even know how to start it.....

Haavardhaavard Saturday, February 24, 2007 12:04:07 PM

Originally posted by Khaled Khalil:

but why wand password is used ?


The Wand password is optional, but it is also a lot easier to encrypt a small file than thousands of them, and there is no speed penalty if you do so. There is also no need use a disk index for wand.dat.

Also, passwords are generally more sensitive than your mail. But if the attacker already has full access to your system, both your mail and your passwords will be exposed in no time.

But I recommend that you move this discussion to the forums, as too many of these discussions in this blog will only cause noise like in the other blog post. The blogs are better suited for comments to the actual blog posts rather than long discussions. There are a lot of people who have something to say, so let them get the chance to be heard too.

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