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By Johan Borg. Friday, 23. February 2007, 15:36:32

I hate to write posts like these, but I have to be honest with you: We're not ready to publish our new baby here today. I know, I promised you a new build before the end of the month and we will do whatever is humanly possible to ship a mid-weekly on wednesday (or at least next friday...) :angel:

You should also be warned that the next weekly will contain rough edges, it will contain incomplete functionality and should be good material for a serious bug hunt :wizard:

Update:

The WebApplications blog just announced a Web chat next week with our CEO, Jon von Tetzchner.

Have a nice weekend!

Opera code names uncoveredSugar me!

Comments

NoobSaibot 23. February 2007, 15:39

You should also be warned that the next weekly will contain rough edges, it will contain incomplete functionality and should be good material for a serious bug hunt



that's the stuff we love :wink:

kiaM 23. February 2007, 15:44

Great news, thanks alot! Have a nice Weekend everybody!

shoust 23. February 2007, 15:51

Can we be given a clue as to what this new feature is at least? :smile: :wink: I can't wait p:

mark_poleon 23. February 2007, 15:53

:frown:

Vempire 23. February 2007, 15:58

I'm gonna diiiiiieeeeee... :frown:

GreyWyvern 23. February 2007, 15:59

I don't usually pay attention to the weeklies, but new features are always interesting! Even if they turn out to be superfluous :wink:

亡灵法师 23. February 2007, 16:00

b(∩_∩)d

just wait it!

Tamil 23. February 2007, 16:01

:wait: for wednesday.

Khaled-Khalil 23. February 2007, 16:03

anyway, i always appreciate your efforts :smile:

Almostigriss 23. February 2007, 16:08

:smile: well done!..next week? :smile:

otzi 23. February 2007, 16:14

You forced me to shed tears :frown:

serious 23. February 2007, 16:26

aw ... 5 days just waiting and being excited about the new feature :frown:

WillYum 23. February 2007, 16:38

:smile: :smile: Just building the anticipation.

Don't disappoint boys :wink: I don't think you will.

Yum

MihLab 23. February 2007, 16:47

Лентяи

rxbbx 23. February 2007, 16:52

Doesn't matter. Have a nice weekend..

impotent 23. February 2007, 17:03

Waiting desperately for the falcon wings, to take a plunge.

calande 23. February 2007, 17:10

Maybe HTML WYSIWYG Editing for M2 :smile:

mee.six 23. February 2007, 17:10

Yup, guys, give us a little hint to think of new features :smile:

2Calande: It could be nice :smile: Maybe spellcheck? :smile:

pattoncito 23. February 2007, 17:27

there's no rush. Just keep on your good work.

Medium 23. February 2007, 17:39

In my opinion it's a good sign for new build!

illiad 23. February 2007, 17:49

<<living dead>>> builds, buiiiiilllds!!! I neeeed buillllds.....:D

w2phoenix 23. February 2007, 17:51

lot time no fiddle with test build
i am waiting
next week no excuses :wink:


CaseyJ 23. February 2007, 17:55

no sweat!
just waiting for the party :hat:

Fyrd 23. February 2007, 18:00

Could we get at least a HINT as to what the new feature might be? :smile:

tockar 23. February 2007, 18:03

We're waiting... :smile:

Kuja-IX 23. February 2007, 18:17

Have a nice weekend ^^

XRock 23. February 2007, 18:50

Sounds good. Looks like we'll have some serious stuff next week. Well, I'm looking forward...

hansheng 23. February 2007, 19:06

Good Luck~~`

kyleabaker 23. February 2007, 19:21

should be good material for a serious bug hunt


Just the thing that most of us here of waiting for! :wink: Good to see an update even if it doesn't contain a new build to occupy our weekends, haha. Keep up the slaving work! I don't know about the others here, but I'm always excited about a new build...so i'll be waiting til wednesday or friday. :D In my opinion...updates and changelogs, bug status are every bit as exciting as a new build. I think for the most part..we all just enjoy seeing evidence of progress with our favorite web tool! Have a great weekend and relax, you all deserve it! :wink:

shadowk 23. February 2007, 19:31

i knew this was going to happen, the js dev console is not yet done P: I'm sure of it and as for the "new never been seen before" feature i think i have an idea what it will be.

My prediction:
Opera will be the 1st browser which will allow users to port all their information on to any device(that Opera runs on) and i'm not just talking about bookmarks.

Or it my be a new API which will alow javascript to debbug itself, and allow code stepping,adding breakpoints and all that.

Khaled-Khalil 23. February 2007, 19:40

Originally posted by Junyor:

We will not encrypt mail storage. As I said, that's an OS-level task.

thanks for the warning

in a compact file, such as the Wand storage file, obfusctation and/or encryption makes sense

but why wand password is used ? if this question make sense for you
by the way, using password for locked-screen (that exist in any os) can replace password opera manager, don't tack me as another enemy, i just suggest you to don't bother yourselves with such thing, of course if you concider useless
though, i prefer use my beloved browser's feature, if it was optimal

Storing mail files in plain text has the added benefit of allowing full-text indexing by search engines like Google Desktop and Mac OS X's Spotlight.

that's good reason, but some people give security more periority over usability, and some don't, you could make it as an option.

andresruiz 23. February 2007, 19:46

I'll be waiting

Thanks for the report

erpel 23. February 2007, 19:54

I have to things that I'd consider really cool features for Opera and I would love to read some other thoughts about them. It's a major and a smaller one.
The smaller one is pretty simple, mac-specific, and inspired by Khaled Khalils post above: A Spotlight importer to be bundled with the application. It could not only index the obvious emails but also Notes, Contacts and Bookmarks. Feeds might be a bit counterproductive probably.

The other one is a big thing: Why not use the my.opera accounts that many of us have for the ability to store our entire set of preferences. Going from searches to bookmarks everything that's not machine-specific like proxys. It would be soooooo ultimately cool to be able to log in to every Opera anywhere and have your settings right there.

stranded 23. February 2007, 20:11

Ahh I've expected a new version today ;P but it's fine I'll wait a little longer. Plus I got new Opera Mini 3.1 for testing! :smile:

mywapis 23. February 2007, 21:04

Tamil +1)))

Khaled-Khalil 23. February 2007, 21:13

Originally posted by erpel:

inspired by Khaled Khalils post

to be fair, it is Junyor's idea not mine, i don't index my mails.

Why not use the my.opera accounts that many of us have for the ability to store our entire set of preferences.


+1
that would be a very great idea, i use now 5 operas on 4 different systems (2 linux & 2 XP on 2 computers), and one OperaTor on an usb flash.
and i have i problem setting up all my preferences and customizations, but the biggest problem is for bookmarks and feeds, i never can bakup all of them as the same

andresruiz 23. February 2007, 21:14

Did I tell you that "Auto-complete" now works on Yahoo Mail Beta?

FataL 23. February 2007, 22:47

We don't have any choice except waiting and guessing next weekly build number... :smile: Because we don't have any clue about new coming feature. :D
Developers, good luck with compiller.

Khadgar 24. February 2007, 02:01

*readies his bug spray* How many gallons should I purchase before the next build? :D

rasz 24. February 2007, 03:05

can we have a debug build? the one with some form of real time monitoring?
I would LOVE to be able to see WHERE exactly opera stalls, what makes her (shes a woman, right?P:) choke

gilb 24. February 2007, 06:30

Hi friends

don't forget to promote Opera on DellIdeaStorm

http://www.dellideastorm.com/article/show/62460

kennycrudup 24. February 2007, 07:23

Question: Does Opera size "elements" on rendered pages according to hints or sizes returned by the Font Server in use?!

... stay tuned.

JoRgE-1987 24. February 2007, 10:26

Thanks for the report.

Only I can Wait. :smile:

Saludos.

D555 24. February 2007, 10:44

Give to us an enhanced API for browser&plugins. Please , please, please :smile: !!!

itanko 24. February 2007, 10:49

Tnx for message and good luck. :-)

impotent 24. February 2007, 11:13

cya on coming wedensde... till then work very hard & adios

illiad 24. February 2007, 11:37

rasz: debug build?? nah, that will wind up too many 'simple folk' ... - and going by the amount of 'secodary sources' that have sprung up, so that builds appear *before* its official, we dont want bad news about *very* unstable builds spreading.... :frown:

If I guess right, most peeps wont be able to afford the 'debugger' needed for those builds anyway, or the **totally dedicated** machine to run it on.. Its most likely some 'virtual PC' running on AIX or similar - so unless you are a SQL or better programmer, you won even know how to start it.....

haavard 24. February 2007, 12:04

Originally posted by Khaled Khalil:

but why wand password is used ?


The Wand password is optional, but it is also a lot easier to encrypt a small file than thousands of them, and there is no speed penalty if you do so. There is also no need use a disk index for wand.dat.

Also, passwords are generally more sensitive than your mail. But if the attacker already has full access to your system, both your mail and your passwords will be exposed in no time.

But I recommend that you move this discussion to the forums, as too many of these discussions in this blog will only cause noise like in the other blog post. The blogs are better suited for comments to the actual blog posts rather than long discussions. There are a lot of people who have something to say, so let them get the chance to be heard too.

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