Edward Piercy

I.Q. vs S.Q.

Monday, 9. November 2009, 21:06:18

Prof. Stephen W. Hawking.
A smart guy who has actually done something
positive for the world.

Who are the smartest people in the world? Well this list gives the top
10 humans with the highest I.Q. (Some lists may differ.)

1. Physicist/Engineer Kim Ung-yong (210)
2. Bouncer Christopher Michael Langan (195)
3. Engineer Philip Emeagwali (190)
4. World Chess Champion Garry Kasparov (190)
5. Author Marilyn Vos Savant (186)
6. Actor James Woods (180)
7. Politician John H. Sunununu (180)
8. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (180)
9. Mathematician Andrew Wiles (170)
10. World Chess Champion Judith Polgar (170)
11. Chess Grandmaster Robert Byrne (170)
12. World Chess Champion Bobby Fischer (167)
13. Mathematician / Physicist Stephen W. Hawking (160)
14. Microsoft Founder Paul Allen (160)
15. Actress Sharon Stone (154)

As I mentioned some lists may differ. I remember reading a few years
back that actress Geena Davis had an I.Q of 160, which would place her
above Sharon Stone. And my guess is that there are a few other
peculiarities about the list as well. It is likely that there are many
people in the world who don't get tested at all but who are extremely
intelligent.

Anyway, that's the list. I notice there are a good number of chess
grandmasters on the list. It's good to know that we have some extremely
intelligent people who are out there helping the world by playing chess.

I am sure too that many evil people through history have been very
intelligent. I suppose the one that comes to my mind first would be
Joseph Stalin. I don't have an I.Q. score for him, but I would say that
what he did in taking a seemingly worthless job like Party Secretary and
turning it into the most powerful political job in the Soviet Union
certainly shows a high degree of intelligence. And yet he murdered his
political opponents, committed genocide, and (in my view) sacrificed the
lives of millions of Soviet citizens playing a "lose the battle, win the
war" strategy against the Nazis.

I've personally known some very intelligent people in my life. Some of
these people while smart also told themselves that they were good, when
they really weren't good at all. I've known smart people who use or
abuse others. And I've known smart people who have been totally
self-destructive.

I think that intelligence is overrated. I think it has its limitations.
That it sometimes becomes flawed. That it can lead to complicating the
world where complication is not needed.

If I were to be given a choice between dating a girl who was smart or
one who was sweet, I would take the sweet girl every single time.

But maybe that's just me.

Now here's a girl who scores very high
on the Sweetness Quotient.
(Drew Barrymore)

A Blending of IconsYo Mamba!

Comments

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Edward Piercy # 9. November 2009, 21:18

Very cool!

PainterWoman # 9. November 2009, 21:38

I like Drew and think she's very sweet. I think she's much smarter now too.

I'm curious about the second on the list....a bouncer? Meaning, like in a nightclub? Being so smart, you'd think he'd be doing something else.

Am also curious what the IQ is of Mathew Gubler who plays the young and genius Dr. Reed on Criminal Minds. Found his website showing his drawings. He's also a musician. I have a feeling he's just as smart in real life as he is on the show.

Allan # 9. November 2009, 21:49

That ain't just you!

But I think that IQ is just one sort of intelligence. What about musical intelligence? Social intelligence? Spatial intelligence?

L2D2 # 9. November 2009, 21:55

Kris Kristofferson probably belongs there, too. The man had 9 degrees for goodness sake---an he acted and sang and wrote songs.

5. Actress Sharon Stone (154) Which one of her? She's bi-polar.

I've got a suggestion----these grand master chess players should put their talent together and come up with a global solution for a clean energy source that would also be cheap.

Edward Piercy # 9. November 2009, 22:13

@ Pam.

Pam that bouncer guy also did this totally bullshit paper in eugenics that has been blasted by everybody. Maybe there should be a separate category for something like that -- "smart but a total idiot." And I think that Bobby Fischer would have to be put into that category too.

I don't know about the guy on Criminal Minds. But I would bet that Hugh Laurie of House is very smart.

@ Allan.

I always wonder about artists -- like Pam or Scott or Nicholas -- people who have the ability to make their hand follow their mind's eye. That always amazes me. And then there are sports people -- a batter who can see and decide whether to hit an oncoming pitch in less than 1/10 of a second -- and then knock it out of the park.

And your comment on social intelligence is very cogent too: doesnt help to be smart if you are an asshole.

@ Linda.

Good suggestion. And we'll make them do it timed by one of those 3 minute clocks.

Sharon Stone: didn't know!

Martin K # 9. November 2009, 23:19

I have a fairly high IQ score, but am absolutely insignificant, which of course makes me sceptical towards the whole meassurement thing. And that goes for many kinds of meassurements. Quantities can be compared on an objective level, but comparing qualities can never be scientific.

I am an awesome chessplayer, though. Even beat a Kasparov chess computer once.

L2D2 # 9. November 2009, 23:22

Martin, maybe you need to get a game going with Yoda (fifineleb) who lives in Belgium. He has asked me to play chess with him but I don't play chess. He seems to love the game.

Edward Piercy # 9. November 2009, 23:24

@ Martin.

Yes, it's that way in chemistry -- Quantitative things that can be measured and Qualitative things which cannot be measured. I can look at a thermometer and see that it is 92 degrees out. But the statement "I hate hot whether" is subjective and Qualitative.

Intelligence does have its place. I'm not knocking it entirely.

Congrats on the chess!

And of course you are not insignificant.

Edward Piercy # 9. November 2009, 23:26

@ Linda.

You just do not know the Dark Side of the force, or you could play chess.

Martin K # 9. November 2009, 23:31

Playing chess with Yoda. Would you ever? However, I wouldn't mind taking a friendly light saber duel with him, because I'm pretty sure I could take him, if he doesn't start jumping around like stupid.

Thanks for not finding me isignificant.

Edward Piercy # 10. November 2009, 00:02

NOT, NOT insignificant!

Angeliki # 10. November 2009, 01:36

I think you will have fan taking the MENSA test at Johns too...

http://my.opera.com/nepmak2000/blog/2009/09/14/why-not-test-your-iq

PS
My Yannis is a MENSA member too, as is Sharon Stone

Edward Piercy # 10. November 2009, 01:44

They tested my IQ in high school for some frigging reason. From what I understand the score doesn't change over time.

Besides, I didn't even pass the coconut banana test!

Yannis, maybe he should ask Sharon Stone out for coffee. An experienced older woman!

Angeliki # 10. November 2009, 01:56

he is only 17 Eddie ,
she can go to jail by even having coffee with a minor

Stardancer # 10. November 2009, 02:27

I feel pretty much about I.Q. scores as you seem to, Edward. They only mean something to the people they mean something.

Wait....

Hope you had a great Monday!

Edward Piercy # 10. November 2009, 02:47

@ Angelik.

"To the meeting of the minds let there be no impediment!"

LMAO.

BTW I was thinking last night that sexy Russian girls under 18 should NEVER be allowed out of the house.

@ Star.

Well you are sweet I think.

I got my new CD in so I'm back in The Cave listening to it and having a few bloody marys.

What about you?

Angeliki # 10. November 2009, 03:23

Originally posted by edwardpiercy:

BTW I was thinking last night that sexy Russian girls under 18 should NEVER be allowed out of the house.

speaking of which,
when the Russian Tea Room was doing a renovation back in 1997,
I was able to buy a beautiful mirror from them that stands in my living room.
My offices were located only 2 streets away from the Russian Tea Room.
to answer your thought,
"yes, the waitresses were blond and most of them from Russia "

Angeliki # 10. November 2009, 03:25

PS

here is how it looks inside
http://www.metrotwin.com/bookmarks/537-the-russian-tea-room

Edward Piercy # 10. November 2009, 03:31

Ooh, beautiful!

Here is what Sofia Vassilieva looks like on the outside.

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jjr//2009/09/sofia-tv/sofia-vassilieva-teen-vogue-04.jpg

BTW she plays Patricia Arquette's oldest daughter on "Medium.". That's how I know her.

PS is it a Magic Mirror?

Angeliki # 10. November 2009, 03:40

Originally posted by edwardpiercy:

PS is it a Magic Mirror?

nope

but a heirloom for the kids will appreciate one day!

Sofia Vassilieva looks good on the outside! She has beauty marks in her neck like me

now I wonder how she looks beneath......

Angeliki # 10. November 2009, 03:41

Never watched "Medium."

yes, I know my TV knowledge sucks!

I always hear books on tapes ( headphones always on )

Edward Piercy # 10. November 2009, 03:46

"I wonder how she looks beneath"

O just don't you get me going there! I'm an old guy who lives primarily in his imagination and I have a bad heart condition!

LMAO.

Angeliki # 10. November 2009, 03:59

Originally posted by edwardpiercy:

I have a bad heart condition!

it is all in the two heads Eddie , not in the heart!

Edward Piercy # 10. November 2009, 04:04

You know I had this wonderful dream last night. But I don't want to type that much listening to the new CDs, so maybe I'l tell you about it tomorrow.

Ivan Moravec is simply awesome with Chopin.

Angeliki # 10. November 2009, 04:06

w00t! looking forward to it!

G/night Eddie

Edward Piercy # 10. November 2009, 04:07

G'night!

Stardancer # 10. November 2009, 04:23

Took a short trip to another town today; went to play with my Rotty friend; went to the post office; went to see my mom and helped her with some stuff; went to see my aunt who is recovering from pig flu and pneumonia, and played with her dog; came home and raked leaves and dried grass into huge piles so I can burn it tomorrow; and now I'm doing laundry, checking my friends' posts on Opera, watching the news, checking e-mail, and wondering what I'm gonna do tomorrow after I finish burning leaves and grass.

Edward Piercy # 10. November 2009, 04:33

Two dogs in one day! That's great.

I think the normal thing to do after raking leaves is to sacrifice a goat to Hecate.

But I might be wrong about that.

Sounds like a great day, S. I hope tomorrow is even better.

Stardancer # 10. November 2009, 05:05

Thanks, Edward.

I guess it was a great day. I was so busy I don't think I even realized it until just this moment.

L2D2 # 10. November 2009, 05:06

Star, that's more activity than I see in a month! Maybe two.

Darko # 10. November 2009, 05:53

When I worked in an machine production company as IT help assistant, they tested my IQ but never gave me results

I don`t think they were magnificent but it would be nice to know. Then I have found some various on line tests but having them all in English results varied from 90 to 160, so I guess they were not reliable

My opinion is that people with high IQ doesn`t have to be extra smart in all "fields" - that would explain your remark about high IQ people who were self devastating or incapable of living ordinary life. One can be excellent mathematician but incapable of peeling apple with a knife. I know this looks funny but according to some research a great number of kids age 7-10 had a problem with it during 80s

it`s an old research

Edward Piercy # 10. November 2009, 06:09

Darko, when your on-line score gets to 5000, let me know. We'll have a party.

You know I think what bothers me most (as I've said here before) is when ordinary people act stupid. Because you know, ordinary people are the majority in this world. And if a large number of ordinary people act stupid with things, then our world suffers even more.

Stardancer # 10. November 2009, 06:35

My I.Q. was tested in grade school, 4th or 5th grade, if I recall. To this day, my mother will not tell me what I scored on those tests. (I was tested several times, for some reason.) Since then, I've been tested every few years, but the people testing me won't share the results, either.

I figure the results are either extremely erratic, or I'm testing "off the charts" in one direction or the other. And I figure I'm probably better off not knowing, either way.

Martin K # 10. November 2009, 07:32

I keep my score to my self as well. I was adviced to do so, by people who appearantly knows about such matters, and since it really doesn't mean much to me, it's all the same. I was tested in 2003, as a part of the assesment leading to my retirement, and before that I had no idea. I knew I was smart, but not exactly how smart, if you know what I mean.

On the other hand, now I know why I have problems pealing apples.

Stardancer # 10. November 2009, 08:29

PainterWoman # 10. November 2009, 13:57

So, when I peel an apple and can get one continuous long piece of peeling and throw it over my left shoulder....what does that mean?

Martin K # 10. November 2009, 14:59

That you now have one peeled apple...

PainterWoman # 10. November 2009, 15:07

Edward Piercy # 10. November 2009, 15:12

Brilliant!

I was out sick the day they gave the IQ tests in my Senior year of high school. Had to make it up a few days later sitting in an auditorium all by myself. Kind of freaky. Like something from 1984.

Which of course now makes it mandatory that I do those old jokes.

When they passed out the brains I thought they said trains and I asked for a slow one.

When they passed out the looks I thought they said books and I asked for a funny one.

When they passed out the wit I thought they said shit and I told them I didn't want any.

PainterWoman # 10. November 2009, 15:37

Ed, those are hilarious!

Darko # 10. November 2009, 15:48

@ comments

Edward Piercy # 10. November 2009, 15:50

That's about as funny as a screen door in a submarine.

That's about as funny as bobwire underwear.

(There are more of those but I can't remember them)

Darko # 10. November 2009, 15:52

Originally posted by edwardpiercy:

That's about as funny as bobwire underwear.

Ouch!!!

Martin K # 10. November 2009, 15:56

Your freaky story reminds me of a job I had at a school once, designing their playfield. When I arrived the first day, nobody at work that day had been informed about it, so they didn't know what to do with me. Both the headmaster and the inspector was out for a conference and nobody knew anything. So, they just put me in a small, dark office in a part of the school that was otherwise abandonned and issued me a worn out computer and a telephone. It was creepy. I just sat there, in these Steven King-like surroundings doing what I was supposed to do, all alone, forgotten, until the headmaster came back a few days later and placed me in a more inspirational setting and introduced me to a nice young intern trainee that I was supposed to work with. She was most helpfull...

Edward Piercy # 10. November 2009, 16:02

Wow, Martin, I think that first part of it is another great set-up for your writing. It really does sound like the beginning of a Stephen King novel. Or, pretty much anything in Kafka. In any case I'd definitely run with that one.

Angeliki # 11. November 2009, 22:03

Originally posted by gdare:

Ouch!!!

Anonymous # 15. November 2009, 07:48

JIMMY THE GEEK writes:

A HIGH I.Q. MAY QUALIFY YOU AS INTELLIGENT AND EVEN A GENIUS BUT THAT SURE DOESN'T MAKE YOU WISE ....E.G. STEVEN HAWKING AND EINSTEIN . NEITHER ACKNOWLEDGES(ED) GOD EVEN WHEN EVERYDAY THE SCIENCE THEY RELY ON CONTAINS IRREFUTABLE PROOF . E=MC^2 SAYS THAT EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE IS A FORM OF ENERGY . I.E. THE BIG BANG WAS ENERGY BEING TRANSFORMED INTO MATTER . NOW HOW DO YOU SUPPOSE THAT CAME ABOUT ?
SPONTANEOUS COMBUSTION ? OR MAYBE EVOLUTION ?? DUH !!!!
I AIN'T NO GENIUS BUT I'M SMART ENOUGH TO SEE THE OBVIOUS .

Edward Piercy # 15. November 2009, 19:58

I think Einstein did believe in god. In fact he once said that he wasn't interested in finding out what man thinks about the universe, but in finding out how God thinks.

As for Hawking I don't know.

Martin K # 15. November 2009, 20:44

Both Einstein and his Danish colleague Niels Bohr was worried about the conflict between spiritualism and science, and neither of them denied the existence of natural phaenomenons undefinable by scientific methods or the existence of a 'primary course'. Bohr was of the opinion that the conflict had its origin in the linquistic difficulties. It is almost impossible to define or describe spiritual phaenomenons in scintific terms, even the more rational of the kind. He said: 'The laguage of scince is usefull when dealing with scientific matters. The language of religion is usefull when dealing with spiritual matters.' Eistein agreed with this, which means they both agknowledged religious sentiments.