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Air traffic worldwide over a 24-hour period

Wednesday, 4. November 2009, 02:13:52

"The pilots of the commercial jetliner that last week overshot its destination by about 150 miles have said they were using their laptops and lost track of time and location, federal safety officials said Monday."
read more here:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/26/airliner.flyby/

There are more than 100,000 planes in the sky daily,
by knowing how things work in the cockpit,
and being married to a man who was the Station Manager of an Airline at Kennedy Airport,
I know the passengers were safe, the auto pilot did a great job...
but how did this happen?

By watching the following video you will realize there is another world in the sky,
air traffic worldwide over a 24-hour period it is impressive ,
and requires responsible pilots and flight controllers..
Enjoy the video, and have Happy Travels!
Using a plane is always safer than driving but now getting lost in the sky
became a fact too..... :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XBwjQsOEeg&feature=player_embedded

:heart: Be sure to leave some juicy comments, so I can feel loved:heart:

match to be "fresh" and dance with style :)Smart minds solve Memory Problems...

Comments

Dacotah 4. November 2009, 02:15

The video doesn't want to load here or on YouTube.

Charles Schloss 4. November 2009, 02:20

Youtube I notice is having issues they should be fixed soon

The US was all yellow and kinda Europe to

you can play with the vdieo to get it to work

Angeliki 4. November 2009, 02:23

hmmmmm I wonder why? my kid was watching at the same time you did try and she had no problem...
I also used the direct link I have under the video and I see it loading at my end...

:frown: sorry I wish I knew the answer


:heart:

Angeliki 4. November 2009, 02:25

PS
full screen shows the amazing amount of the traffic .... :cool: very much as it is on the Airport Tower :cool:

Darko 4. November 2009, 05:47

I`ve got it in the e-mail two weeks ago. Amazing amount of yellow dots :D

scott cumming 4. November 2009, 05:54

meli :heart: you sure can find them. fascinating, is all i can say. we sure are using more than a fair share of fuel. i was surprised at the lack of traffic to south america. also surprised at the frequency from europe to remote regions of russia... two little blips around the camaroons. makes you think. asia is a big player these days... singapore, hong kong, india. really a cool clip. how do you find all these things. you are marvelous. :happy:

Edward Piercy 4. November 2009, 06:29

You know I was researching a month or so ago and it seems that they always have these coffins transporting in the cargo hold that they don't really want you to know about.


I just ordered a CD and a book today -- a copy of Euripides' Medea so maybe you can be my tutor, yeah? If you could do that for me, that is?

Dacotah 4. November 2009, 06:33

I got it in an email from Darko.
:smile:

Gavin Sheedy 4. November 2009, 06:44

A bit funny that we're not allowed to use laptops because it might interfere with the 'plane, but the pilots can. p:

scott cumming 4. November 2009, 09:13

and as demonstrated, to their own detriment. those guys will never fly professionally again.

thobi 4. November 2009, 10:01

wow. nice. thx one more time :smile:

btw: you can also use these links for higher quality ->

quicktime
win mediaplayer

Angeliki 4. November 2009, 14:35

Originally posted by gdare:

I`ve got it in the e-mail two weeks ago




fantastic!

Angeliki 4. November 2009, 14:36

Originally posted by Dacotah:

I got it in an email from Darko.



happy for you!

PainterWoman 4. November 2009, 14:37

Video does not work for me either but I have seen it before.

Two more jobs I would not want to do: pilot or air traffic controller.

I think those two pilots were relying too much on the auto-pilot. Kinda scary.

Angeliki 4. November 2009, 14:39

Originally posted by I_ArtMan:

makes you think. asia is a big player these days... singapore, hong kong, india.




amazing to see that we are in a full speed to have another super power... seeing it in action sinks faster, no?

you know I have so much more to add but for obvious reasons I will leave it to another post... maybe titled "who will be your boss?" Love you, thanks for your kind words :smile:

Angeliki 4. November 2009, 14:41

Originally posted by garlingmatthews:

A bit funny that we're not allowed to use laptops because it might interfere with the 'plane, but the pilots can.




actually they get data in it... now they will weear a device to alert them for messages coming from the tower...Homer: Doh! imagine not hearing a thing for such a long time!!

Angeliki 4. November 2009, 14:42

Originally posted by I_ArtMan:

hose guys will never fly professionally again.




I think it is a fair treatment after all...

Angeliki 4. November 2009, 14:42

Originally posted by thobi:

btw: you can also use these links for higher quality ->




you are precious! thanks!! :up:

Angeliki 4. November 2009, 14:43

Originally posted by edwardpiercy:

it seems that they always have these coffins transporting in the cargo hold that they don't really want you to know about.




:frown:

Angeliki 4. November 2009, 14:43

Originally posted by edwardpiercy:

I just ordered a CD and a book today -- a copy of Euripides' Medea so maybe you can be my tutor, yeah? If you could do that for me, that is?




glad to :up:

Angeliki 4. November 2009, 14:46

Originally posted by PainterWoman:

I think those two pilots were relying too much on the auto-pilot. Kinda scary.




actually all are,
the scary part is that they were too absorbed in their lap tops to hear the tower...

how on earth i expect my teens to hear me when in their lap tops... makes you wonder,
is technology used right, when it interferes with your simple functions? Like hearing?

Angeliki 4. November 2009, 14:47

Originally posted by PainterWoman:

Video does not work for me either but I have seen it before.




try Thobi's links,
(in case you want to watch it again...)

Gavin Sheedy 4. November 2009, 14:47

Originally posted by ellinidata:

actually they get data in it... now they will weear a device to alert them for messages coming from the tower...Homer: Doh! imagine not hearing a thing for such a long time!!



Insane. It's lucky that they carry so much extra fuel.

Angeliki 4. November 2009, 14:48

Originally posted by I_ArtMan:

we sure are using more than a fair share of fuel.





I was making a mental addition of the millions spend daily... and then it came to mind that in this chart the fuel we use in the war zone is not added....... Imagine the pollution :frown:

Angeliki 4. November 2009, 14:49

Originally posted by garlingmatthews:

Insane. It's lucky that they carry so much extra fuel.





and parachutes too! p:

Dacotah 4. November 2009, 16:45

:D

starree 4. November 2009, 16:46

yes I once knew someone that considered this job because it paid well , air traffic controller but not when they found out how stressful it is! :smile:

Gavin Sheedy 4. November 2009, 16:49

As fictionalised in the film Pushing Tin :smile:

Angeliki 4. November 2009, 19:55

Originally posted by starree:

but not when they found out how stressful it is!


it is a job that gives you a comfortable life, if you live long to enjoy it...

*hugs*

Angeliki 4. November 2009, 19:58

Originally posted by garlingmatthews:

As fictionalised in the film Pushing Tin



oh yes! no room for a lazy bu$$ up there! that's for sure...


* Give Gavin 1,000 points (yes, points count) for the reminder of Billy Bob Thornton hmmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmmmmmm naf said! :heart:

scott cumming 4. November 2009, 20:11

meli :heart: i got interested in the cost of flying and did a little googling... no wonder the u.s. is so concerned about the middle east. remember 'wonder woman' with the invisible jet running on star power? they better figure this out pretty quick. but most important stop wasting resources and dirtying up our air.

An hour in a private jet burns as much fuel as one year of driving. ...



ride a horse. see the land rise and fall. feel the rain on your face. then send the money you saved to a village in africa.

Angeliki 4. November 2009, 20:16

:cry: :cry: :cry: I am telling you it is THAT bad !

Originally posted by I_ArtMan:

ride a horse. see the land rise and fall. feel the rain on your face



** art of I_ArtMan can be seen :
http://files.myopera.com/I_ArtMan/albums/3846/boy%20girl%20horse%20and%20nothing.jpg


Originally posted by I_ArtMan:

then send the money you saved to a village in africa.




AMEN!!

scott cumming 4. November 2009, 20:41

:love: you meli :happy:

Jurjen 4. November 2009, 21:46

Wonderful to see this. It nicely shows how at night there are much less planes, it's like they are sucked out away to the other continent. :D

I also heard that of those pilots that forgot to land, I really can't understand!

Originally posted by PainterWoman:

Two more jobs I would not want to do: pilot or air traffic controller.


Really? I would love it. Air Traffic Controller, sure it a bit stressful at times. You just needs to be very well in processing data fast in your head. If you can do that it's a very relaxing job I think, 4 hours a day or something like that, nice salary, more then enough time to spend it. Count me in :D :up:

I don't know what youtube is doing the last time, but it's screws things up here too. It plays eventually, but it doesn't work well. Have they made changes lately?

Dr. John v. Kampen 4. November 2009, 22:03

It is a very serious incident indeed. For several reasons. The plane could have been intercepted (or even shot down!) while off its course not replying to ATC calls. Ignoring ATC calls implies a serious danger (losing situational awareness!). Using a laptop in an airplane's cockpit might interfere with electronic instruments. More radiation in the cockpit could deteriorate the behavioral consistency in the cockpit (awareness). The gigantic Teneriffa accident of years ago appears to have been caused by a malfunctioning radar, causing behavioral inconsistencies and a formidable crash (KLM-PanAM accident). Weird behavior of course poses a serious risk. These pilots will possibly indeed not fly a commercial airliner anymore... End of their careers.
:whistle:

Angeliki 5. November 2009, 01:55

Originally posted by nepmak2000:

The plane could have been intercepted (or even shot down!) while off its course not replying to ATC calls.




do you know that they spend 30min of asking the pilots to preform acts to prove that they are who they claim to be before they land? it could have been easily be a hijacked plane for all they knew...


John did I tell you that,
I MISSED SOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!

these past 9 days felt like 9 weeks, make that 9 months! I am so glad you are back! :heart: :love: wine :faint:

Edward Piercy 5. November 2009, 01:55

Totally off-topic but I just discovered that there are tons of dancing dog videos on youTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdN4dtsmB1U&NR=1

Angeliki 5. November 2009, 01:58

Originally posted by jekav:

I also heard that of those pilots that forgot to land, I really can't understand!



the link I included in the post have their side of the story.. I am not convinced one bit that they were busy and did not hear the tower for 90minutes! it is unthinkable and inexcusable!

as John said :

Originally posted by nepmak2000:

End of their careers.



for being an air controller it needs you to be very disciplined... are you sure? :heart:

Angeliki 5. November 2009, 01:59

Originally posted by I_ArtMan:

you meli



:happy: same here meli :heart:

Gavin Sheedy 5. November 2009, 02:15

The guy on the horse isn't being very chivalrous. Apt word for the situation as I assume that the root of the word is cheval, the french for horse. p:

Kimberly 5. November 2009, 11:56

all i can say here is WOW, thats a lot of planes

Dr. John v. Kampen 5. November 2009, 14:37

To see things hands-on just look here at Atlanta Radar. This screen is updated every radar sweep or two...

PainterWoman 5. November 2009, 14:41

Angeliki, the vid worked this time. Fascinating how all the moving planes look like blood in the veins.

Originally posted by jekav:

Air Traffic Controller, sure it a bit stressful at times.

Ah, but you are young. When you are young, you don't mind a stressful job and, in fact, it feels exhilarating. When I was in my twenties, I worked for lawyers. I found it very exciting but also very demanding.

But still, being an Air Traffic Controller, you are responsible for the thousands of lives on those planes. I wouldn't want that responsibility for any amount of money.

Dr. John v. Kampen 5. November 2009, 14:52

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHvr6a2DHOU
Call sign, altitude, heading and speed are the primary parameters in these conversations. The movie gives some 'funny' examples. What a profession that is.
BTW PainterWoman: ATC assists and helps the pilots. The latter fly the plane and decide. ATC can advise some other decision, which will hardly be the case. If the pilots don't cooperate its their responsibility!
:zzz: :furious: :eyes: :cry:

PainterWoman 5. November 2009, 14:59

"the crow bar thingie"? :eyes:

Dr. John v. Kampen 5. November 2009, 15:05

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z2o0acIlm4&feature=related
If pilots don't cooperate it remains their responsibility.... I said.
:cry:

Jurjen 5. November 2009, 18:42

Originally posted by ellinidata:

for being an air controller it needs you to be very disciplined... are you sure?


I never sad I was very suitable for the job. :D

Originally posted by PainterWoman:

Ah, but you are young. When you are young, you don't mind a stressful job and, in fact, it feels exhilarating.


It's true. :yes:

Originally posted by nepmak2000:

ATC assists and helps the pilots. The latter fly the plane and decide. ATC can advise some other decision, which will hardly be the case. If the pilots don't cooperate its their responsibility!


Pilots have to listen to the ATC, no matter what they say. If they do not listen, sure its the pilots fold if something goes wrong. However if an ATC give bad advice it is their responsibility. A pilot flies blind on what the ATC says! Ah... the power you have :smile:

Dr. John v. Kampen 5. November 2009, 20:35

Oh nooo! Jurjen. Pilots don't do it the German way at all! A controller can tell me a lot, but I decide... I look out the windows and watch the situation in a rehearsed manner: displays, outside etc. I most certainly don't fly "blind"! And I don't play 'Monopoly' or with a stewardess when on auto-pilot! Let alone watching Facebook...

Air Traffic Control (ATC) is the service provided to pilots to assist them in operating their aircraft in a safe, orderly and efficient manner.

As the Cessna turned to final approach, an airliner called in 'over the marker' (5 miles from the airport). The Cessna was about a half mile from the runway, and the controller knew he could land and clear the runway well before the airliner would land, so he cleared the airliner to land as well. A few seconds later, the Cessna pilot asked the controller, "How far behind me is that 737?" Before the controller could respond, the airline pilot keyed his mike, and in a deep bass voice said, "Don't look back!..."

My Mädl trying it. She twice struggled with ATC. Particularly, Jurjen, when flying over Lake IJssel coming from Lelystad and losing direction towards SPL (Schiphol Amsterdam).... Yes, years ago...

:D :wink: p:

Jurjen 5. November 2009, 20:57

mmm, okay, I just looked into it :smile:

In many countries, ATC services are provided throughout the majority of airspace, and its services are available to all users (private, military, and commercial). When controllers are responsible for separating some or all aircraft, such airspace is called "controlled airspace" in contrast to "uncontrolled airspace" where aircraft may fly without the use of the air traffic control system. Depending on the type of flight and the class of airspace, ATC may issue instructions that pilots are required to follow, or merely flight information (in some countries known as advisories) to assist pilots operating in the airspace. In all cases, however, the pilot in command has final responsibility for the safety of the flight, and may deviate from ATC instructions in an emergency.



So it seems in controlled airspace they do have to listen only when there is an emergency they may ignore orders.
Flying blind may be a big term, but in certain circumstances they do very much rely on information from the ATC I suppose.

Nice picture! Those glasses are fashionable again :D

Gavin Sheedy 5. November 2009, 21:00

I couldn't even handle that old Star Wars arcade game. :D

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