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Thursday, 5. November 2009, 04:53:28


When it comes to technology ,
I always leave it to brilliant minds of my i-frieds to post on it.
However,
recently an Opera i-friend member ,
had many computer memory problems.
Well the SSD can solve this problem....
In this video you will see a SSD demo from Samsung.
SSD stands for " solid-state drive".
It pits SSDs and HDDs (hard drives) in head-to-head tests.
When you’re done watching, you’ll want to switch drives.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjCmLJtITK4&feature=player_embedded

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Comments

Dacotah 5. November 2009, 05:02

Great post Angeliki.
:smile:

L2D2 5. November 2009, 05:04

Might be the future for laptops, but maybe not desktops. Would have to do tests for myself. Are they putting these drives in all their notebooks now I wonder?

rfhurley 5. November 2009, 05:36

A recent coworker bought a new Mac with a solid-state drive. He wouldn't shut up about the thing. Sounds like a logical step forward to me in hard drive technology.

Just wish I had the money to keep up with this sort of technology.

Some day... some day...


Chas4 5. November 2009, 06:01

I am thinking about going SSD when the drives gets about 1 TB

Originally posted by rfhurley:

Sounds like a logical step forward to me in hard drive technology.

Just wish I had the money to keep up with this sort of technology.

Some day... some day.

+1

Zaphira 5. November 2009, 13:48

It's cool that technology evolves to get smaller, faster, more clever, more stable and so on and so on. Fortunately the prices will go down as things get more and more "normal". :up:

PainterWoman 5. November 2009, 15:01

The ssd sounds like a really good idea. But as expensive as pc's are, I'm hoping mine will last at least another five years before I have to replace it.

ellinidata 5. November 2009, 16:35

Originally posted by Dacotah:

Great post Angeliki.



:smile: thanks Carol,I am glad you did enjoy!

ellinidata 5. November 2009, 16:38

Originally posted by L2D2:

Might be the future for laptops,




hi Linda,
you are absolutely right, they eventually get to that .Internet is here to stay and computers too.I love to think that I will be able to store my photos and files in my computer and not in a photo host one day.

memory and photos do not see eye to eye so far...

ellinidata 5. November 2009, 16:39

Originally posted by rfhurley:

Some day... some day...




that's the spirit!!! :yes:
I am so glad to see you here today :smile:

ellinidata 5. November 2009, 16:42

Originally posted by Zaphira:

It's cool that technology evolves to get smaller, faster, more clever, more stable and so on and so on




I hope they come out with similar technology that will apply to us humans too. The older you get to be faster and more clever and the waste line smaller! :lol: wouldn't be that great?


as for the prices, I paid an arm and a leg for a cam corder when I had the kids. Now you can buy a disposable for 30.00USD yes, prices will be down.... "some day" will be for me too! :smile:

ellinidata 5. November 2009, 16:45

Originally posted by PainterWoman:

I'm hoping mine will last at least another five years before I have to replace it.



Pam, I hear you. I also believe if your PC has no problems in the first month or so of buying it, if you treat it well, it will last those 5 years :smile: :heart:

ellinidata 5. November 2009, 16:47

Originally posted by Chas4:

I am thinking about going SSD when the drives gets about 1 TB




I like you to tell us all about it Chuck, (hen the time coes), you know so much about computers , it will be a gift! :smile:

Mickeyjoe_irl 5. November 2009, 16:48

SSDs are pretty cool, but they do have some problems. One being that they write data much slower than they read data. So while they can open a file very quickly, saving the same file could be as slow as a HDD or slower. Notice how neither video mentions saving.

One solution suggested is a SSD for the OS and programs, since that is mostly read and a regular HDD for data since you do a lot more writing.

garlingmatthews 5. November 2009, 17:08

I read an article about servers running on flash instead of hard disc; they are better unless they short, which they do periodically due to the high voltage.

ellinidata 5. November 2009, 18:01

Originally posted by garlingmatthews:

servers running on flash instead of hard disc;



hi Gavin,

before I post this post,
I was reading opinions here:

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-981716.html
you might enjoy it !

ellinidata 5. November 2009, 18:06

Originally posted by Mickeyjoe_irl:

SSDs are pretty cool, but they do have some problems.




:o: :heart: thank you very much for the comment and the link! It is very interesting! :up:

garlingmatthews 5. November 2009, 18:32

:smile: Thanks!

I found this song under Nhashain's comments :D

rfhurley 5. November 2009, 19:04

Internet is here to stay and computers too.



The internet is just a phase...

--Bill Gates
from The Road So Far
(he actually said this!)

garlingmatthews 5. November 2009, 19:15

Steve Jobs thought that networks would never take off.

Dacotah 5. November 2009, 19:29

:smile:

jekav 5. November 2009, 19:50

SSD makes lot of sense for notebook pc, since they are indeed much faster then the 2.5 inch hdd that goes in a notebook, plus the power saving, plus less sound.

For a desktop pc they are not so much faster then the better 7200rpm hdd, but ssd lacks size capacity and are much more expensive.
I think Access times are lower for SSD disk, which makes them a good choice to put your OS it on and keep data on a HDD. But only for speed junkies!

Someone knows how reliable they are for keeping data for years? So not the read/write errors, but maintaining the data.

So your reading ubuntuforums now? :up: p:

garlingmatthews 5. November 2009, 20:08

I'm not up to date maybe, but flash was only good for a thousand saves or so when I bought my first M.P.3 player.

I_ArtMan 5. November 2009, 20:20

hmmmm, i will remember that video when i get around to buying a laptop. so far, i don't need one since i am home most of the time.

garlingmatthews 5. November 2009, 20:44

They should get a lot cheaper once Google Chrome surfaces... hopefully.

Mickeyjoe_irl 5. November 2009, 22:09

Originally posted by garlingmatthews:

I'm not up to date maybe, but flash was only good for a thousand saves or so when I bought my first M.P.3 player.


I was looking around and I saw a figure of 2 million write cycles which they worked out to 50 odd years of use.

gdare 5. November 2009, 22:24

I would use SSD as a backup external drive - but as technology is evolving I guess all of the hard disks will be SSD soon :left:

Chas4 5. November 2009, 23:12

There is a flash drive that is 256 GB (don't know the cost)

ellinidata 6. November 2009, 05:20

hi wonderful ,brilliant, amazing Opera friends,
I missed you tonight,
I will be posting to morrow and respond to your comments,
you all mean the world to me and I love you!


PS I am well,
I went to a Broadway Play with my kids :heart:
Love ya!

Good Night all :zzz:



:heart:

Dacotah 6. November 2009, 08:17

Love ya too.
:heart:
Miss you too.
Goodnight

jekav 6. November 2009, 12:53

Originally posted by ellinidata:

I went to a Broadway Play with my kids


That sounds good! :yes:

I hope you all had fun! :smile:

ellinidata 6. November 2009, 17:25

yes, it was much fun!


thanks Carol ,honey friend!

Jurjen it was great! I missed you!

ellinidata 6. November 2009, 17:26

at 1pm NYC I have lunch with another blind date... Just because the weather is great and I don;t want to be indoors ... will report more on it soon! :D

Behave when i am away!! :heart: :up:

Dacotah 6. November 2009, 18:12

:happy: :heart:

L2D2 6. November 2009, 20:08

Another blind date? Oh, boy! Don't you meet men on your own Angeliki? Of course, most of them are married, or jerks, or married and jerks.

I_ArtMan 6. November 2009, 20:37

i beg your pardon? oh, i guess there are a few exceptions.

garlingmatthews 6. November 2009, 20:49

Hmm, if a guy wrote something like that about gals, a flame war would ensue. And rightly so.

L2D2 6. November 2009, 20:54

I figured I would get a reaction from that one. :happy: I have done my job.

ellinidata 7. November 2009, 02:14

Originally posted by L2D2:

Of course, most of them are married, or jerks, or married and jerks.



ahahahahahahhaha :lol: :lol: Linda you are killing me! ahahahaha


the good ones are taken for sure! and they keep them close by Linda! it is a fact the single ones are always to be checked out twice ... Like measure twice , cut once! :lol: Love ya!

ellinidata 7. November 2009, 02:15

Originally posted by I_ArtMan:

i guess there are a few exceptions.




:o: always!

ellinidata 7. November 2009, 02:15

Originally posted by garlingmatthews:

if a guy wrote something like that about gals,




:eyes: only rumors!

ellinidata 7. November 2009, 02:18

Originally posted by L2D2:

Don't you meet men on your own Angeliki?




:D usually my married friends want me to be miserable like they are! :lol:
actually this went well, we had lunch outdoors and I think I will give him a second chance.. He is only 36 but hey, numbers are only numbers! Great when a man has humor ...

L2D2 7. November 2009, 03:14

Always have loved younger men. If you have fun and find some attraction on whatever level, go for it. You only get to live this life once.

ellinidata 7. November 2009, 04:35

I always loved older men :smile: they have wisdom, see life differently and usually treat women better! but some young can make you say hmmmm , hmmm, hmmm ! bring him on! :lol:

L2D2 7. November 2009, 06:16

Won't hurt to give him a test drive. :o:

ellinidata 7. November 2009, 18:15

test drives prove if hard drives still active! :lol:

I love the way you are thinking! p:

nepmak2000 7. November 2009, 20:28

I recall that I once (20 years ago) owned an EPROM card (with battery) for a Mac that upon power-up nearly immediately (seconds) got me to my programs. The SSD is a 'new' version of this already 30 years old (!) enigma, so to say. The problems are significantly the same: SSD is about 250x more expensive per megabyte (about 0.20/Mb USD hard drive vs. 50/Mb USD for SSD still); the write time for an SSD is "horrific" and about 5x slower than a hard drive; no massive storage devices yet - there are no economical compact 1 Terabyte SSD's still... So, where do we stand now? Here is an answer, a rather technical semi-solution. I believe that currently a combination of SSD (boot and system) and HD for programs and data all under Ext4 journaling is the best of all worlds for the next 3 years. We don't know enough about the 'wear' of SSD's still to be sure and our data safe! They are still in and about a lifetime of 120.000 write/erase cycles, 50 per day means a 'wear' (life-time) of 4.5-4.9 years. So you see, that using them for 'heavy' desktop work with tons of changes (games?), is -let us be polite- 'madness' still...

:no:

ellinidata 8. November 2009, 00:43

Originally posted by nepmak2000:

The problems are significantly the same: SSD is about 250x more expensive per megabyte (about 0.20/Mb USD hard drive vs. 50/Mb USD for SSD still); the write time for an SSD is "horrific" and about 5x slower than a hard drive; no massive storage devices yet - there are no economical compact 1 Terabyte SSD's still..




darn it men sound sexy when they talk numbers! :lol: sorry John I am sure the brainy and loyal readers of mine will understand it, I am just going with "sexy talker" :D

I know it will be part of the future...
how advanced from the original idea?
I am sure lots,
am I going to sweat over the difference?
nope!
but I wanted to know what is out there...
and I am glad some of you did understand the full concept :yes:

Chas4 8. November 2009, 01:08

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http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_To_Text.asp

ellinidata 8. November 2009, 01:25

hahahahahahaha I said :
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010010000001110100011011110010000001100100011100100110
100101101110011010110010000001111001011011110111010101
110010001000000100111101110110011000010110110001110100
01101001011011100110010100101110

Chas4 8. November 2009, 06:00

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