Virtual Combinations: Personal Bar
Monday, 31. August 2009, 06:59:31
Opera's Personal bar (toolbar for bookmark items) is rather basic compared to other browsers. This is the main reason why I don't use it. Here is my related wish-list along with a draft to ideas on virtual combinations.
Forum post: Please add your +1
Table of Contents
Wish-List
Virtual Combinations
List of Webpages: Bookmarks and History
Forum post: Please add your +1
Table of Contents
Wish-List
Virtual Combinations
List of Webpages: Bookmarks and History
The main feature of Personal bar is to keep selected bookmark items or folders visible on the toolbar. The great function is the ability to include also search boxes and contact items. Sadly, that's all that thing can do.
Wish-List
1. Include IRC chatrooms. Servers would be cool as folders. Contacts can already be included.
2. Personal bar should have the ability to store any conceivable item. There is the so-called Index list (basically RSS, mail and newsgroups folders) most of which makes good sense in Personal bar. The wish: Include those.
3. Widgets launchable from Personal bar! Side-note: There is a workaround.
4. Sessions launchable from Personal bar!
5. Note items and folders on Personal bar would also be nice.
6. Fix the icons on Personal bar! A contact should always have the same icon on Personal bar as in the contacts list, a bookmark item the same as in the bookmarks panel etc.
7. Implement Personal bar also as a menu (for buttons and keyboard shortcuts).
Virtual Combinations
8. The convergence of bookmarks, messaging folders, contacts, search boxes, notes, and widgets is intriguing. This requires a reconsideration about the essence and nature of Personal bar.
9. From the functional point of view there seem to be three big categories in Opera:
- List of Webpages: Bookmarks
- Messaging and editing: Mail folders, chatrooms, contacts, notes
- Externals: Widgets
10. Considering other features that Opera has, the categories seem to work. For example, transfers belong to Externals. If transfer items were to be included in Personal bar, there function would be to be launched in their default program or pop up a dialog to select the launching program.
11. Messaging and editing is a category with the most fascinating potential. If only the editing features were more capable in Opera. I have long wished for an opportunity to embed a proper text editor for composing mail, editing notes and web forms. Just like spell-check, Voice and a few other things are embeds. Embedding Notepad++ in Opera would be a dream come true (a little late maybe, but still).
12. A better integration of notes and mail items would be warmly welcome. Opera's Notes feature remembers homepages when notes are copied from the web. Note items can take you back there by double-click. They should also remember when they were copied from an e-mail message and take you back there with a double-click. Then, by copying a bit from a message to notes and editing the note, e-mail messages can be linked to notes with any content the same way webpages can be.
13. Chatrooms would make perfect sense in the M2 index list the same way as newsgroups are, grouped by server. There is no danger of the list getting too crowded when any shortcut can be added to Personal bar and accessed from there. Also, there is some missing functionality regarding chatrooms, such as autosave their content. Content of regular webpages can be stored with an option in Opera, why not chatrooms? Then, copying a note from there, the same link between a note and the page (chatroom) would work.
List of Webpages: Bookmarks and History
14. In the List of Webpages category regarding bookmarks, it seems increasingly irrelevant to keep bookmarks and history apart. Bookmarks are simply history items marked for reference. Opera's Bookmarks manager should also list history with an option to display history separately. This can be done by following the logic of virtual folders and access points wonderfully implemented for example in M2.
15. The marvellous 'Add all to bookmarks' function is inconvenient due to lack of virtual folders. The feature should add all the saved pages to an autonamed (e.g. dated) folder. Either that or pop up a dialog box to select a folder.
16. As it is, all bookmarks can be searched without regard to their folders only from the address field. This is incomprehensible. Bookmarks should be searchable in all ways from the search box included in the Bookmarks manager/panel.
17. The same way as in address field, the search of bookmarks should be able to draw conveniently together any matching combinations of them. The same as in M2, the search should be saveable and it should be possible to erform searches per folder basis. These are virtual folders.
18. Virtual folders work fine in Opera's history. There are several sorting options available specific to history. The only drag is that the right-click menu is the same both for folders and history items. Folders and items are different contexts and should have different menus. Ditto for bookmarks as they are currently implemented. Notes feature proves that Opera can do separate menus for items and folders, so this should be fixed for bookmarks and history too.
19. Naturally, history search should also be saveable as a virtual folder of bookmarks. It should be possible to add these virtual folders in the Personal bar.








steven # 22. September 2009, 03:08
Have you tried Seamonkey for editing ?
Irc chat history is better to be lost; if we need to keep permanently a conversation we can write on blog. Chatting is like speaking, "verba volant"... so, it's better to forget some words, like it happens in a face to face or a telephone conversation !
The best ersi
ersi # 27. September 2009, 18:46
Originally posted by ste-ven:
Yes I have. I prefer direct code editing, so WYSIWYG tools are not quite for me.
Originally posted by ste-ven:
The same could be said for browser history, downloads list and cache. I personally would not say it. Stuff in memory is always on my mind.
steven # 27. September 2009, 18:54