Embed ogm torrents via unite
Monday, 13. July 2009, 07:09:26
I kinda like Bitlet, they wrote an embedable torrent client with embeddable video player in a java applet. I love the idea, but it is so slow it sadly could never work the way it should.
So I've installed both Opera betas:
1 - The one with the unite service.
2 - The one with the <video> tag.
And made a test page. It looks something like this:
Then (in the <video> beta) I set my download folder to the unite file sharing folder. I open my test page, I click on the link, I download the torrent, I reload the page AND THERE IS MY VIDEO!
*dances on desks*
At the same time I also have new content in my file sharing folder AND I'm seeding the internets website video automagically.
Several questions come up:
1 - Should non corporate users really be allowed to post videos on their website?
2 - Doesn't video on the web already belong to Youtube? Isn't it wrong to take this away from them?
3 - Isn't seeding torrent files evol, shouldn't people be not viewing videos on websites in stead?
4 - Should we not give the entire Internet to Adobe and make everything in flash from now on? Or at least in proprietary formats?
5 - What about hosting companies, some lobbying is still needed but technically the market belongs to them. It are exploitation rights - right?
6 - Do people still have a sense of humor or is work really the only thing on our minds?
7 - Should this not be how Opera works out of the box?
People can of course continue to use µTorrent and (heaven forbid) firefox, all they need to do is install Opera for the Unite service and point either their torrent client at the Unite folder or point Unite at the download folder.
A far less clumsy solution would be to be able to use Opera for all this thus saving the user from configuration pain, popups and accept dialogs.
It would also be nice if the video would start playing when the download is finished, ideally it should of course be streaming torrents (.tstream) like swarm player is working at.
A special unite service could be crafted that makes the (torrent) video available on unite and/or options to not make the file available in file sharing (like I did with the localhost hack)
We could each have thousands of videos on our Unite page without paying the millions in hosting that would cost, there really is no reason why this should be made impossible. The network infrastructure is all there, only the software monopolists are standing in the way.
The end user would have to see the videos first in order to make sure he isn't hosting copyrighted material.
I understand it is a big project for Opera but something tells me that the first browser to implement this will be by far the best one to use.
At the moment, there is this "are you sure" dialog with the torrents, Opera should really implement that for every image on every website if it is really needed? Help I'm downloading a JPEG?
At the moment, the site serving up the torrent file can not access the video (stream) Doesn't seem a lot of work to break that barrier.
At the moment, embded videos are send to a Temp folder? Why is that? Am I running out of disk space? I want to keep and share everything. Of course permission (for sharing) is required but putting a torrent on my homepage should qualify as permission therefore.
Windos tells me when I have desktop icons to clean up. It doesn't just delete them but it reminds me with a text balloon (the ghost of Clippy?)
I don't have money to buy flash developer tools and I don't have money to host many GB of video. I only want to make nice websites. Why is this not allowed on this world? The infrastructure is all there, we just aren't allowed to use it? I'm baffled.... Honestly.
I feel Opera is the last hope to save us from the monsters. HELUP!
Hope this helps, good luck, share me your thoughts.
The debate is here.
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=283169
So I've installed both Opera betas:
1 - The one with the unite service.
2 - The one with the <video> tag.
And made a test page. It looks something like this:
<a href="http://h.gabydewilde.operaunite.com/file_sharing/content/FEEMASON.ogm.torrent">download torrent</a> <video controls="controls" src="http://localhost:8840/file_sharing/content/FEEMASON.ogm"></video>
Then (in the <video> beta) I set my download folder to the unite file sharing folder. I open my test page, I click on the link, I download the torrent, I reload the page AND THERE IS MY VIDEO!
*dances on desks*
At the same time I also have new content in my file sharing folder AND I'm seeding the internets website video automagically.
Several questions come up:
1 - Should non corporate users really be allowed to post videos on their website?
2 - Doesn't video on the web already belong to Youtube? Isn't it wrong to take this away from them?
3 - Isn't seeding torrent files evol, shouldn't people be not viewing videos on websites in stead?
4 - Should we not give the entire Internet to Adobe and make everything in flash from now on? Or at least in proprietary formats?
5 - What about hosting companies, some lobbying is still needed but technically the market belongs to them. It are exploitation rights - right?
6 - Do people still have a sense of humor or is work really the only thing on our minds?
7 - Should this not be how Opera works out of the box?
People can of course continue to use µTorrent and (heaven forbid) firefox, all they need to do is install Opera for the Unite service and point either their torrent client at the Unite folder or point Unite at the download folder.
A far less clumsy solution would be to be able to use Opera for all this thus saving the user from configuration pain, popups and accept dialogs.
It would also be nice if the video would start playing when the download is finished, ideally it should of course be streaming torrents (.tstream) like swarm player is working at.
A special unite service could be crafted that makes the (torrent) video available on unite and/or options to not make the file available in file sharing (like I did with the localhost hack)
We could each have thousands of videos on our Unite page without paying the millions in hosting that would cost, there really is no reason why this should be made impossible. The network infrastructure is all there, only the software monopolists are standing in the way.
The end user would have to see the videos first in order to make sure he isn't hosting copyrighted material.
I understand it is a big project for Opera but something tells me that the first browser to implement this will be by far the best one to use.
At the moment, there is this "are you sure" dialog with the torrents, Opera should really implement that for every image on every website if it is really needed? Help I'm downloading a JPEG?
At the moment, the site serving up the torrent file can not access the video (stream) Doesn't seem a lot of work to break that barrier.
At the moment, embded videos are send to a Temp folder? Why is that? Am I running out of disk space? I want to keep and share everything. Of course permission (for sharing) is required but putting a torrent on my homepage should qualify as permission therefore.
Windos tells me when I have desktop icons to clean up. It doesn't just delete them but it reminds me with a text balloon (the ghost of Clippy?)
I don't have money to buy flash developer tools and I don't have money to host many GB of video. I only want to make nice websites. Why is this not allowed on this world? The infrastructure is all there, we just aren't allowed to use it? I'm baffled.... Honestly.
I feel Opera is the last hope to save us from the monsters. HELUP!
Hope this helps, good luck, share me your thoughts.
The debate is here.
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=283169
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