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Ubuntu web page broken in Opera

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Is it Opera's fault or the CSS styling of the Ubuntu web site is non-standard? Have you noted that the tabs at the top right are unaligned when seen in Opera, but are ok seen from IE and Firefox?

From Opera



From Firefox



Update (July 2)

A good fellow member of this community, whose blog is devoted to Opera and web pages compatibility with this browser, tells me that...

this is a known bug and described as "floated list item children of inline list child of an absolutely positioned element are not displayed on one line".

...it is even considered quite important (probably mainly because of it appearing on the Ubuntu website)

So it is unfortunately a bug in Opera, and not a bug in Ubuntu's web site coding. I hope this bug will get fixed soon.

Vista slip commented from the inside

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This is absolutely entertaining and I ought to share it here with you. Although it highly possible that you already got to it. I was reading this wonderful blog post by an insider about how disappointed and frustrated are Microsoft employees today because of the embarrassing delays in the (featureless and already delayed-several-times) upcoming Windows version: Vista.

Article apart, which you can go and read and I encourage you to do so, take a look at the first few dozens of comments. I will quote below some of my favorites. This is really so enlightening about the inner workings of lazy giant caught up in a bureaucratic disaster.

"The migration to Vista will be a passive one, as someone else previously mentioned; appearing on new computers bought by companies.

The same for home users; a lot of people do not know enough to figure out what hardware upgrades they need ; so again, it will appear on new computers."


Is this what Windows has become? An upgrade no one wants, forced upon them because the new hardware they're buying doesn't support anything less?

Compare this to OS X, where people fall all over themselves trying to get the newest version running on their old hardware because there's actual value in the new features.

So Vista has its guts ripped out, slips, and we wait another 5 years for a potentially insipring version of Windows, meanwhile Apple ships another 3 updates to OS X.

I hope to God Office 12 steps up and kicks some ass.


"We could and should have shipped sooner with 20% of the current feature set. Seriously, what makes people think that anyone cares about all of these other features beyond the bullet points that will sell the product"

EXACTLY... It's about time we face the fact that the OS is nothing more than a hosting platform for REAL apps. Just like IE is for cool websites. We don't need apps on there done by us...calc and notepad are it. Let someone else "skin" Windows, let someone else write the stupid solitaire and let's do the security, kernel and move on. You honestly think anyone sits there wondering at the marvel that is Windows Explorer? No, they go in long enough to open an app or a file. Who gives a f--k what the folders look like, stop pretending that is important and requires a date slip.


MS is a big company and its getting ever bigger. Computer and software industry have to be quick and adaptable otherwise the inner bureaucratic mechanism will destroy the machine from inside. The managers are sitting in their ebony towers and deny the fact that there is a problem.


And the winner is....

Today's announcement is of course no surprise to anyone inside MS. The only surprise is that it was such a short delay announced.

Basically we do not believe Vista will make January 2007 or even March 2007. Anyone with any access knows what a frankenstein's monster NT is on the inside. At some point there is a law of diminishing returns trying to do anything to it at all, it seems like that limit is being reached today. The release is pushed back because of bugs but fixing those bugs will create more bugs. It is just godawful to be honest. And the process gets in the way at every step.

At some point we will have to do something and i know at least some in my team privately agree with me. We will have to throw out everything and start again. This is what Apple did with OSX, and sure it was painful, but it worked and now they're kicking our asses. We should have done that in 2000. Now it is even more obvious we should do it. Start again and just run a compatibility layer on top. Apple did it with classic why can't we???

IF we manage to ship vista at ALL then it is a miracle and the absolute last rev we can possible do working like this. It is insane the manhours wasted rearranging a house of cards. We need to START AGAIN PEOPLE.

Like an ice skating couple

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Hallvors has written a nice article about a subtle metaphor depicting how web pages and browsers can interact and work together to deliver a positive experience (or how they can work against each other ruining it all).

Imagine this: the browser and the website are like an ice skating couple. When they follow the choreography and are used to working together, the effect can be dazzling and we feel like we can watch or surf forever.

I think Opera is one of the most exquisite and intelligent dancers out there. It is a pity that is being misunderstood by some dancing partners.

I won't tell you more, go and read it yourself, and continue reading his blog, which is great if you're interested in web standards and Opera.

Linux worm?

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Linux worm?! I hear you say. Yes, as odd as it may sound. But do not panic. If you go and read by your self you'll see is just a worm exploiting some obscure vulnerabilities in PHP's XML-RPC module.

This would leave out of risk most desktops and even some web servers. And in any case, patches are already available, the article informs. But as you can see in the talk-backs at the end of the page, this is enough reason for some M$ supporters to start talking nonsense. It must be said though, that most of the talk-back replies were less naive, pointing out the fact PHP runs on Linux as well as on Windows, so why should the worm be related to Linux only? In any case, if it were a core Linux issue, somebody made a subtle observation,

One of the reasons MS people were saying that Linux doesn't get attacked by hackers is that it doesn't have the "Market Share". Since this worm is specifically designed to attack server software on a Linux system, I assume that Linux must now have some critical percentage that means it's on track to challenge MS Windows.
Hey, I'm just going by MS's reasoning.

I personally do not think so, but I think it's on its way there.

Don't screw it

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This is what you get when you screw it up. Microsoft has spend years making the worst browser available, breaking web standards, trying to destroy any competing browser. I even thought they were the sole authority dictating web practices, and that the w3c were a bunch of impostors.

I've been tired that people always blame web developers and designers when a web site appears broken in IE, and on the other hand, they blame browser vendors (other than IE itself) when a web site appears broken in such browser.

Now they seem to be willing to adhere (at least a bit) to standards, but they'll be paying (at least a bit) for their arrogance. They are unleashing IE7, which will support many (previously unsupported) CSS2 features, but the problem is that web designers all over the world hacked their CSS based on unsupported features, to (attempt to) give the same visual appearance across browsers. Now web sites hacked for previous IE versions will look broken in this flashy new release.

And guess what. They are asking web developers to remove the hacks, to re-code everything again, after they were such a pain over there (you know where). But the best part of this is not the post in itself, but the comments that follow it. I particularly liked this one.

Yes, the following suggestion might be blasphemy for Microsoft, but I had to try.

Why not use the Firefox rendering engine, called gecko? It is Open Source, so Microsoft is allowed to use it (and don't even have to pay for it, as it is available for free (as in free bear)).

Every Webdesigner would be happy if the IE 7 renders pages the same way Firefox does it.

Ok, Microsoft would have to open source IE 7 but as it is included in WinXP / Vista Microsoft doesn't make any money directly with IE. I don't think many uses will upgrade vom Windows 2000 (or whatever) only to get a new version of the Internet Explorer. So no earnings will be lost and I don't think that the business competitors won't have much advantages of an open sourced IE.

Also the developers of IE can concentrate on other features like improved phising protection or something like that.

In the end it sounds (well, at least to me) like a good solution. Less work for Microsoft, less work for Webdesigners.


As a web developer my self, I couldn't find a better answer than this one, taken also from the comments section, and very well said.

So... you're only going to fix some CSS bugs, and I have to then go around and fix the hacks on my site now? No deal. I'd rather let them break, and wonder what's wrong with IE.

Make your CSS full compliant, and then we'll talk. Last post I checked, you weren't going to be anywhere near Gecko or Safari. This isn't productive, having to mop up your mess only half way.


And last but not least, my personal favorite. This is an excerpt from a larger comment.

First you're building cars with triangular tires, and people had to build roads with holes on it, and now you're complaining your new car with round tires can not drive on these roads.


Bugs at the community web site

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This new community web site is great, and I think Opera is going in the right direction here. However there have been a couple of inconveniences that I wanted to comment about.

First of all, I wasn’t able to import my Blogger blog. I initially thought it should be some kind of problem with my connection or something, but a few minutes ago I found someone else in here that had exactly the same problem. It is supposed that as long as this feature is not working fine, it should be removed. It is definitely a useful feature, but is not working.

And the other problem was in the albums. I have only one photo album so far and it was showing three more pictures yesterday that I didn’t upload. I removed them, but I suspect that they were from someone else, and they were uploaded wrongfully into my account. And again, mine is not the only case. Some other people were having this problem too. This is somehow more serious, and it is wonderful to see that it was fixed already.
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