80% of Firefox 3 bugs to remain unfixed?
Thursday, 15. November 2007, 21:12:08
Mozilla won't fix 80% of Firefox 3.0's bugs, says Computerworld. This sounds like a lot, and that is probably true.
However, this is not exclusive to Firefox. All software, including Opera, is released with known bugs. If just about all bugs were to be fixed before release, new versions would be few and far between, leaving users waiting for other bugfixes for a very long time. At some point you simply have to draw the line, and release the new version. New versions will often include many important bugfixes and additions, and many people will benefit from these even if other bugs remain.
One should also realize that browsers are extremely complex programs. They have to handle text, images, audio, plugins, and so on. And they have to handle any strange kind of input from the user or strange code on Web pages.
In an ideal world, all bugs would have been fixed before release. Perhaps if the Web was ideal, with perfect code on websites and perfect input from the user, browsers would be easier to debug. But the real world is quite different. Browsers have to deal with the real Web, which means that there is a huge potential for bugs.
So before we jump on the "bash the buggy program" bandwagon, we should consider for a moment the hugely complex application that a Web browser is (whether it is Firefox, Opera or Internet Explorer), and the benefit new versions bring to a lot of people even if not all bugs have been fixed.
Even applications that may not be half as complex as a Web browser are released with known bugs. It might be right or it might be wrong, but it's how the industry works.
It's the real world.
However, this is not exclusive to Firefox. All software, including Opera, is released with known bugs. If just about all bugs were to be fixed before release, new versions would be few and far between, leaving users waiting for other bugfixes for a very long time. At some point you simply have to draw the line, and release the new version. New versions will often include many important bugfixes and additions, and many people will benefit from these even if other bugs remain.
One should also realize that browsers are extremely complex programs. They have to handle text, images, audio, plugins, and so on. And they have to handle any strange kind of input from the user or strange code on Web pages.
In an ideal world, all bugs would have been fixed before release. Perhaps if the Web was ideal, with perfect code on websites and perfect input from the user, browsers would be easier to debug. But the real world is quite different. Browsers have to deal with the real Web, which means that there is a huge potential for bugs.
So before we jump on the "bash the buggy program" bandwagon, we should consider for a moment the hugely complex application that a Web browser is (whether it is Firefox, Opera or Internet Explorer), and the benefit new versions bring to a lot of people even if not all bugs have been fixed.
Even applications that may not be half as complex as a Web browser are released with known bugs. It might be right or it might be wrong, but it's how the industry works.
It's the real world.



dors # 15. November 2007, 22:29
scipio # 16. November 2007, 18:30
FataL # 16. November 2007, 19:31
I can live with bugs, but I hate regressions (especially like this).
Mickeyjoe_irl # 16. November 2007, 20:36
rseiler # 17. November 2007, 06:14
haavard # 17. November 2007, 13:07
fearphage # 6. December 2007, 13:24
olli # 14. December 2007, 15:30
fearphage # 15. December 2007, 04:38
Is there a bug for every spec violation (exception) on the doc site?
olli: You could set a cut-off of day 1 of the bug bash and say (virtually) everything reported before then will be fixed before you go back to feature adding. I was suggesting something of that sort.
Anonymous # 22. December 2007, 07:35
I'm afraid I don't see anything really new in Firefox 3... Close to nothing
Anonymous # 23. December 2007, 16:09
To the poster above: I've been using Firefox 3 for almost a year now, and I can tell you, there are loads of additions and fixes... They may not be obvious at first, but I guess you just discover them one by one.
To name a few: new rendering engine, overall faster, lower memory usage, Acid2 test passed, full page zoom, smooth border-radius (and just recently, background images don't spill through them anymore), new bookmark, history and download systems, Larry (although I don't care about it)... And then there are also many little tweaks and bug fixes I like, such as the fixed autoscroll icon (it used to glitch/flicker in some cases)... Also, more things are middle-clickable, etc...
I'm probably forgetting a lot of stuff.
Personally, I can't go back to Firefox 2 anymore. :)
Anonymous # 20. February 2008, 19:32
Firefox has some ancient and annoying bugs - the most annoying (to me) is how if you cover an image with an image map Firefox users can't right-click and Save As; this particular bug was first reported in 2000 and is STILL unfixed.
(https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33583)