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Cenzic says Firefox and Safari are the least secure browsers? Really?

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According to Computerworld, security firm Cenzic has released a report showing that Firefox and Safari were the least secure browsers in the first half of 2009. That's the impression you get by simply skimming the article anyway. The actual report from Cenzic only counts the number of security flaws, and concludes that Firefox had 44% of all vulnerabilities, Safari had 35%, IE had 15%, and Opera a mere 6%.

Does that really mean that IE is more secure than Firefox and Safari?

I'm not sure a conclusion like that can be drawn at all. There are other aspects to security vulnerabilities that were not covered, such as the severity, and how long the vendor takes to fix them. Furthermore, security reports sometimes elevate standard crash bugs into security bugs, for example referring to them as "Denial of Service Vulnerabilities".

It's great to see that Opera has a low number of vulnerabilities, and I am confident that we would look good if severity and "time to fix" were taken into account as well. But until the report actually includes those relevant details, it isn't really that useful.

Statistics are great, though. You can make them show just about anything.

What is a browser? Russian edition

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You may have seen the video where Google asks more than 50 people in Times Square, New York, what a browser is. Most of them basically think a browser is a search engine!

It looks like the various browser vendors have a lot of work to do in order to create awareness around browsers!

Now someone has tried a similar poll in Russia.

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Europeans switched from Firefox to IE and Opera in March

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According to StatCounter, March was a tough month for Firefox. It dropped 1.73% in Europe (down to 36.81%). On the other hand, IE gained 1.01% (up to 50.15%), and Opera gained 0,55% (up to 7.9%). It looks like Firefox users may actually be switching to IE and perhaps also to Opera, which must be worrying for Mozilla. Is Firefox is more vulnerable to changes in the market than other browsers? As we recall, Chrome actually caused an increase in the number of Opera downloads, and accelerated Opera's desktop user growth.

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Microsoft thinks IE8 is faster than Chrome and Firefox

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Microsoft claims that IE8 is faster than Chrome and Firefox. The question is if those results are because IE8 is actually faster, or if it's just that most sites are designed to work as smoothly as possible in IE. IE is the dominant browser, after all.

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80% of Firefox 3 bugs to remain unfixed?

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Mozilla won't fix 80% of Firefox 3.0's bugs, says Computerworld. This sounds like a lot, and that is probably true.

However, this is not exclusive to Firefox. All software, including Opera, is released with known bugs. If just about all bugs were to be fixed before release, new versions would be few and far between, leaving users waiting for other bugfixes for a very long time. At some point you simply have to draw the line, and release the new version. New versions will often include many important bugfixes and additions, and many people will benefit from these even if other bugs remain.

One should also realize that browsers are extremely complex programs. They have to handle text, images, audio, plugins, and so on. And they have to handle any strange kind of input from the user or strange code on Web pages.

In an ideal world, all bugs would have been fixed before release. Perhaps if the Web was ideal, with perfect code on websites and perfect input from the user, browsers would be easier to debug. But the real world is quite different. Browsers have to deal with the real Web, which means that there is a huge potential for bugs.

So before we jump on the "bash the buggy program" bandwagon, we should consider for a moment the hugely complex application that a Web browser is (whether it is Firefox, Opera or Internet Explorer), and the benefit new versions bring to a lot of people even if not all bugs have been fixed.

Even applications that may not be half as complex as a Web browser are released with known bugs. It might be right or it might be wrong, but it's how the industry works.

It's the real world.

CNET: Firefox Lite needed for low-end computers

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Nate Lanxon over at CNET wants Mozilla to create a Firefox Lite capable of running on older computers:

Firefox, while initially a fairly lightweight Web browser, is now in its 2.0.0.5 incarnation and with a few extensions and a few open tabs, sometimes consumes upwards of a quarter of a gigabyte of RAM.

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I would suggest that the Mozilla community produce a stripped-down, bare-bones version of Firefox -- 'Firefox Lite', if we're going to follow beverage naming conventions.


Well Nate, I've got some excellent new for you! There is in fact a browser which can run on older computers, and you won't even have to sacrifice any functionality!

It's called Opera. And did you know that Opera even runs on mobile phones using the same rendering engine as on desktop? How's that for low-end? :smile:

I notice that you mention security as a good reason to use Firefox, and there's more good news: Opera's security track record is excellent as well. In fact, while Secunia lists Firefox with 13 security advisories, 6 of which are still open, Opera has no open security advisories, and only 8 in total.

So not only will you get the both the speed and functionality (a lot of the features we take for granted in modern browsers were pioneered by Opera, such as popup blocking, and the Web search field through which Mozilla makes money) on older computers by using Opera. You will also get an excellent security track record.

Why don't you give it a try, Nate?

Mozilla Corp. protects trademark, logo; OSS community backlash

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Part of the OSS (Open Source Software) community is now angrily lashing out at its darling, Mozilla (also covered on digg).

Why?

The Mozilla Corporation wants Ubuntu and Debian to use the Firefox name and logo correctly, and to run custom patches by Mozilla Corp. before including them in their distributions. Naturally, this makes the process of updating the program harder, and it will be a lot more time consuming to include custom patches for these distributions.

Ubuntu and Debian's position is certainly understandable since it creates more work for them, but some of the criticizm against Mozilla regarding this matter seems to be a bit rash.

If I am not mistaken, a trademark is lost if one does not protect it. This means that anyone can create "Firefox" and distribute it as such. The logo itself is covered by copyright which cannot be lost anyway, but the value of having only one official version of a program to relate to is not to be underestimated. (Please correct me if I'm getting anything wrong here.)

Think of a scenario where everyone can create a product like yours and put your name and logo of it. Theirs is a cheap ripoff which gives your trademark and logo a bad reputation. Does that sound nice to you?

Mozilla Corp. is protecting its trademarks and logos because it benefits them (users use their products rather than products pretending to be theirs), and it benefits the users (users know that what they are using is an official Mozilla Corporation product, so they know who is responsible for it).

Now, I am not saying that Ubuntu or Debian would give Mozilla a bad name - not at all. The scenario I mention above is purely hypothetical, but I still believe that this is closer to the reason why Mozilla Corp. is doing this than the various conspiracy theories about how Mozilla Corp. is turning into Microsoft and similar remarks from around the Web...

In the end, Mozilla Corp., Ubuntu and Debian may come to an agreement on how to handle this. Maybe Mozilla will be able to give special permission in some cases, or maybe the two Linux distributions will eventually sympathize with Mozilla Corp.'s position and find a way to handle it anyway.

Protecting a brand is beneficial to the owner of the brand as well as the users/customers, so it is no wonder that Mozilla Corp. takes steps to ensure that their brand is kept intact and exclusive.

Firefox sees the light: Defaults to tabbed browsing

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Now, I try to stay out of discussions about who's following who and all that, since it's usually pointless and nothing good usually comes from it. However, after we changed our terminology from "pages" to "tabs" in Opera 9 to make it easier to migrate from other browsers such as Safari, Konqueror and the upcoming IE7, there are certain people who believe this to be evidence that Opera is "falling into line" or "following Firefox's lead".

After Firefox 1.5 was released to catch up with more Opera features, it does look like the Firefox team is learning from Opera again with Firefox 2. Not only will there be a close button on each tab just like in Opera, but it will default to tabs instead of new windows.

It's great to see that Firefox "falls into line" and makes it easier for people to learn about tabbed browsing - functionality that Opera users have already enjoyed for many, many years :smile: