Haavard

Mozilla Corporation

Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:13:27 AM

According to the New York Times, the Mozilla Foundation is planning to create a for-profit subsidiary to promote further growth of its products.

Much like Opera Software has done as a company for ten years, the new Mozilla Corporation says that it wishes to promote an open Internet. Now, more than ever, actions will speak louder than words.

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Comments

Nicolas Mendozanicomen # Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:13:27 AM

Netscape II - It's pissed and it's after you!

Jakub81 # Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:13:27 AM

Yeah, the whole Mozilla IS Netscape 2. Look at the Mozilla's board of directors names. And we must remeber these guys "invented" <blink> and <font> tags. More evil than M$.

Jan StandalThink # Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:13:27 AM

what will all the developers think?

Kelson VibberKelson # Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:13:27 AM

So the years of standards evangelism from Mozilla-the-organization don't count?

Sigup # Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:13:27 AM

Mozilla:

*Words: "Standards compliance!"
*Action: *Implements non-standard Gecko extensions for web devs to use*

*Words: "Hooray, we are nice people and all!"
*Action: *Underhanded dirt slinging, FUD and lies against competitors*

But there's good news! Maybe this will finally force the Asa troll to shut up...

Haavardhaavard # Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:13:27 AM

That's not exactly what I was talking about. More like they need to keep their focus and not let "easy solutions" ruin everything. As a commercial entity they will hopefully continue to promote open standards and avoid mistakes that a lot of companies make.

Hopefully they, like Opera, will contribute even more to the W3C and similar organizations. Opera has several employees that are paid by us to work at the W3C (and WHATWG for that matter). As a commercial entity, they might be able to put real money behind open standards like Opera does. Although they surely contribute already of course.

Kelson VibberKelson # Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:13:27 AM

Non-standard extensions are bad. Got it. Better get rid of Opera's -o-link, -o-source, and similar properties, then.

What? They're intended for internal use by the application only? Why, gosh, so are -moz-border-radius and the like!

Speaking of FUD...

Kelson VibberKelson # Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:13:27 AM

OK, that makes sense.

Sigup # Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:13:27 AM

I'm not talking about stuff that's clearly marked as "internal use only". More like stuff like XMLHttpRequest.

porneL # Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:13:27 AM

Which is useful and Opera implements it?

Sigup # Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:13:27 AM

And Opera implemented it why? Because Mozilla added a non standard feature which people blamed Opera for not supporting.

porneL # Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:13:27 AM

I think there is very fine line between extensions that are useful (innovative, vendor-independent) and extensions that are "cool", but have harmful design flaws or make better technologies seem redundant.

I consider XMLHTTPRequest to be in the first group.