Opera 8.0 or OperaSomething 1.0? Or why 7.60 never was.
Tuesday, 28. December 2004, 12:15:47
There never was a 7.60.
Or rather, there was a planned 7.60, but it never happened. The press release for the Opera 8.0 beta explains why:
"We were preparing for the 7.60 release, but as work progressed and we kept adding improvements and functionality, it became very evident that we now have a browser that is so powerful, secure, and easy to use that it exceeds the next logical version number and warrants a major release"
We did release previews that had the version number 7.60, but previews are just that - previews, test versions, pre-alpha or alpha software which does not represent the next final version. Those who have followed us through a few preview versions will understand what I am talking about, as previews have been known to be very experimental in nature, introducing new ways of doing things specifically to get feedback on those things. That these experiments are available in previews does not mean that the next final version will look like that.
Opera 7.60 was originally supposed to be Opera 7.5 plus voice, and maybe some other small improvements. As time progressed, we found ourselves having to deal with other issues, such as Gmail compatibility, and soon the plans changed. Previews were released, and the version number was still set to 7.60, but towards the end of the preview cycle, what was left was not just 7.5 plus voice...
- We had a completely new version of the core in place, with improved support for various standards, as well as XMLHttpRequest support, needed for Gmail.
- We added a new rendering architecture, called ERA (Extensible Rendering Architecture), which lets you use Opera on any screen size, and Opera will reformat the page to fit.
- Printing received a facelift too, and fit to paper size was added.
- Opera 8.0 automatically checks for new versions every week.
- Error dialogs were replaced by error pages.
- Help files were moved online.
- We dropped the Java bundle, and instead offer to download the Java environment when you visit a page using Java.
- The user interface, including toolbars and menus, was streamlined and made more friendly to new users, and mail, chat and newsfeeds no longer have to be disabled. They are only enabled when needed.
If you read the changelog, you will understand why this is a new major version, and not just a minor upgrade. There are major changes to large parts of Opera, both visible and invisible ones. The e-mail client has not been prioritized this time around, as it got a major upgrade in 7.5, but there will be another major upgrade to the e-mail client in the (hopefully) near future.
To sum up, Opera 8, or whatever the final name will be, is not an upgrade to Opera 7.60, because 7.60 was never officially released. It is an upgrade to Opera 7.54, and the changelog since 7.54 should speak for itself.
And yes, people who bought Opera 7 will get the upgrade to the next version for free.
Opera 8 is a free upgrade.


YtseJam # 28. December 2004, 12:15
Odegard # 28. December 2004, 12:15
injinuity # 28. December 2004, 12:15
Jinu Johnson
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Jere # 28. December 2004, 12:15
wosa # 28. December 2004, 12:15
This name is horrible..
Opera 8 is good for new users. Opera 7.60 is good for me:)
Spug # 28. December 2004, 12:15
scipio # 28. December 2004, 12:15
gun # 28. December 2004, 12:15
Splintax # 28. December 2004, 12:15
Just my two cents..
Espaqu # 28. December 2004, 12:15
madjo # 28. December 2004, 12:15
because apparently the 8.0 installer creates a new profile dir called opera8...
Is it just copying and pasting the mail folder from opera75?
haavard # 28. December 2004, 12:15
Or, when 8.0 final is release, just install it over the previous version, and it will pick up all settings automatically.
CloudHackIX # 28. December 2004, 12:15
Most of the .ini files under the Opera folder (both Mail and Profile folders) refer to the install path for Opera, and also a few things like your signature file. To do a complete move/copy of the folder, you should search out any ini files and do a simple find-replace for Opera75 (or Opera76 if that's what you had before) and replace them with Opera8.
Doing a direct copy _will_ work, but will have references to your old Opera75 directories (which is bad should you uninstall it
On a side note, this isn't really a very hard action... the one exception being the plugin path in Opera6.ini that automagically refers to all plugin dirs (Mine even referenced Opera7). Has anyone written or thought of writting a script/program that does handles this more automatedly? (Would be really nice to have an "import from old version" feature in Op8.1 ^.^ )
haavard # 28. December 2004, 12:15
The profile folder does indeed contain paths that need to be edited, but I was talking about copying the mail folder, not the profile folder. And when you upgrade, you simply install over the previous version anyway.
porneL # 28. December 2004, 12:15
If not, "Opera NG (next generation)", maybe? This would make a good headline...
Too bad that new Opera comes with Voice. Really, this is cool thing, "but why do I need a voice browser? I want a regular browser.."
cork1958 # 28. December 2004, 12:15
zeekoe # 28. December 2004, 12:15
Personally, I'd like it if Opera checks everyday and shows previews and betas too.
Bagel # 28. December 2004, 12:15
I am a fan of Opera, trying to promote Opera through my network. Incompatiability between site using IE only deter
my effort. My bank coerced users to use IE or else -- no support (ActiveX) frustrates me. Apparently they look for
browser string. But can Opera 8 change this compatiability
issue (inline). Goldmine still out there to win over new
Opera fan because they are simply don't know Opera or they
force to use IE for this compatiability issue alone. I hope Opera 8 will atest to its high standard of stability.
Otherwise, it will be another joke for me to loose new Opera
fans.
kriz_gr # 28. December 2004, 12:15
I suggest 5-6 possible names should be chosen and a poll to take place!
Indyan # 28. December 2004, 12:15
But still opera remains incompaitble with a lot of sites using Java script.
Indyan # 28. December 2004, 12:15
crypticways # 28. December 2004, 12:15
haavard # 28. December 2004, 12:15
No. Most of the time, it's because the script specifically detects Opera and sends it broken code. Read the Open the Web forum for more information.
White Lynx # 28. December 2004, 12:15
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ArtlessSchism # 28. December 2004, 12:15
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craig1972 # 28. December 2004, 12:15
haavard # 28. December 2004, 12:15
To achieve the same with Firefox, you need to download countless extensions, and even then, it simply doesn't work the way Opera does.
Perhaps you would claim that you won't need to buy Photoshop, since The Gimp is free. I would beg to differ, just as Opera and Firefox are not exactly similar products. They have completely different design philosophies.
thom99 # 28. December 2004, 12:15
When she started getting into the internet world I installed her Opera and The Bat for email.
Sil # 28. December 2004, 12:15
tarsa # 28. December 2004, 12:15
haavard # 28. December 2004, 12:15
edwardp # 28. December 2004, 12:15
There is nothing wrong with the name, it isn't broken, so why fix it?
tarsa # 28. December 2004, 12:15
haavard # 28. December 2004, 12:15
Your logic is rather flawed. Being used by a lot of people doesn't necessarily mean that it's the best out there.
DannyBhoy # 28. December 2004, 12:15