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What's good Murs?

It's been a rough, rough, rough, rough day. I'm working on this Hip Hop festival right now and everything just went in the shitter. I just lost tens of thousands of dollars before I woke up over something that's not even my fault. I've been in the office all day working with Guerilla Union just trying to recover. We got kicked out of our venue because some punk-rocker nazi motherfuckers had a riot and now they won't let us have our show.

What's going to happen next?

We're going to move it to the Shrine. We had to pay more money for this venue and it's a different sound set-up. We had been planning and promoting for one venue and now we have four days to do everything we just did in the past two months. I also have the album, a video-magazine I'm putting together, and I'm booking my own tours. I might have to cancel my national tour. It's been a crazy, crazy day.

Are you happy with how "Murray's Revenge" came out?

Not really. Honestly, from the bottom of my heart, no. The label didn't fight as hard as I thought they should have over some sample clearances. This is my first time really going through that. One song didn't make it on the album because they said it was an interpolation of PM Dawn's "Love and Appreciate." It was 9th singing the whole thing and it was 9th's first time ever being recorded.

9th was singing?

Yeah, because Phonte was out of town. I was happy he was on the album because he's not on anyone's album. I didn't think it was a big deal. It was a fight over a note. They said that was an interpolation. I told my label it wasn't a sample and I don't think they believed me. I told them they couldn't copyright a note. I wanted to fight them and win but the label didn't want to fight. It's PM Dawn! What funnier headline is that over a song about being in love? It's great press. To me, they're trying to ruin my record and ruin my life.

There's also a manufacturing error because my manager fucked up, so the last song gets cut off in mid-sentence. A lot of bad things keep happening and I don't know why. Other than that, the album is great. I didn't have fun making it, but I thought it was a solid album.

Was there anything that went wrong during the recording process?

I never enjoy recording with 9th. Every time I leave North Carolina, I hate his guts. We fight like brothers. Outside of the studio, it's all good. I know his family really well, but when we're in the studio, we don't get along at all.

How come?

It's just a fight. He thinks things should be done one way. Let's get this out of the way from the jump: I am one of the first guys to go to North Carolina to record with 9th. Now a lot of rappers go there just to record, but I don't go in there to do just that. I let him pick the beat and I let him produce. I listen to what he says. I let him give me the beats. He knows my voice and he knows what I'm about. He's a musician and I'm a lyricist. I am not a musician. I need a canvas and you can tell me what color you want me to paint or you can just give me a beat. I trust my instincts. When you're choosing a producer, you're not choosing them so you can pick their beats, but you're choosing them because you believe in their work whole-heartedly. We fight, but at the end of the day, he has final say. I'm trying to make him see my point, but if he doesn't, that's his call, because at the end of the day he's the producer.

What do you guys fight about?

He doesn't let me do back-ups because he thinks my voice is strong enough on my own. He doesn't let me do a lot of takes. A lot of takes from "3:16" are one-take. I don't drink or smoke or go out much, so I would be in the hotel in North Carolina just writing for eight hours. When he drops me off at the hotel, I'll write more. Then I'll show him what I have, and he'll say, "No. I want you to do this about girls." I wanted to write "Love and Appreciate" about my mom, and he said that a verse I had written about girls to a different beat had to go over that beat with a new verse about girls. He also won't let me do my verses over. If I stutter or didn't get a whole word out or ran my words together, he'll say he doesn't care and won't let me fill it in. He'll say, "No, we're going to leave it blank." "We're just going to have a blank space?" "Yeah." "That's not hot." That doesn't sound good. The thing about being a rapper is that you can get too wordy for your own good. 9th goes off of feeling. A lot of the shit on my album doesn't match up. I stutter a lot of words but it's the feeling of me saying it for the first time that he liked.

Does that make you want to go back and do another album?

When I leave, hell no! The last thing I want to do is see his ass again. He won't do the next one, but he'll probably do the one after that. As long as we're making good music together, then I'm going to listen to what he has to say. I did the same thing with "Felt." Slug and Ant told me what to do. I like to be the instrument in somebody's orchestra. That's how you get better. You have to be humble and not try to teach everyone all the time. At least I know I'm going to learn something when I leave.

Do you ever worry about your lyrics going over people's heads?

All the time. But then I'll meet a kid, I think it was at a Deftones show, and he said, "When you said this, this, and this, that was really dope." I make a lot of Deftones references but a lot of kids don't listen to them. I didn't know anybody ever got that. Sometimes I'll be at the comic store and someone will tell me something. There are always lines when people come up to me and let me know that they got something. I'll be in Chicago and then I'll understand what Common said about something. Then you're like, "Ahhhh!" That's dope to me, and I tried to put stuff like that in my music. I still don't understand everything De La Soul said. I don't think I make it as complex as De La, but I'm somewhere in the middle. It's like food. You don't want to eat the same thing everyday. If you can discover a new taste, that's great.

Where do you get your inspiration for all your songs about girls?

From real life and my friends. I guess that's one of the benefits to having this crazy life. I get to meet all types of girls and my friends get to meet all types of girls. I was friendly with a lot of girls in high school but I didn't get laid until after high school. I was always the friend. I got adopted by a lot of the older girls. All those years of torture and blue-balls paid off, I guess, because I think I have a good understanding of the female psyche. I can write songs about females that aren't usually too offensive. The girls usually like the extremely vulgar ones, but they're not sexist or demeaning. It's just funny because it's true.

You have a lot of fresh takes on race. How important is it to talk about race in music?

Oh man! I think it's really, really, really important as long as it's not about hate and separation. I think it's important because it's something that people don't say enough. I'm an American, period. I'm black, blah, blah, blah. I've had the benefit of interacting with so many different people and different races. There's no way for me to not put it in my music. I don't think that more people should talk about race. I think more people should do it right.

In your opinion, who's doing it wrong?

A lot of them. I don't want to name names because I don't want it to seem like I'm dissing anybody. All of the pro-black rappers are doing it wrong. If you're dissing white people and 80% of the crowd is white, then you probably shouldn't do it because it's just disrespectful and you're making money off of shock value. It's not being productive. It sounds like you think you're better than them but it just produces a message that's counter-productive and negative.

What was your inspiration for "Dark-Skinned White Girls"?

It was a joke. I wanted to put it on the "Felt" album. Slug definitely inspired me to write more girl songs. People don't know that Slug is a quarter-black, a quarter-Native American, and half-white. I wanted to do it but he didn't think it would be right for him to say that. I told him it was ok because he was with me. He could talk about a white girl and I could talk about a black girl. He told me it was a "Murs song."

Of course I had a different beat to it for 9th. He gave me a serious beat for it, and I told him it was a joke song. He told me he felt it over that beat, so I just did it. That makes me a better rapper because I can say it like I didn't hate saying it, but I was stabbing myself in the heart with every word I said because it sounded so stupid. Most songs took fifteen minutes, and some only took three minutes. Now I love the way the song sounds. I kind of had to rewrite it. I only had the last verse at first. Once I heard the beat, I decided to do something more serious for it.

How would you describe your evolution as an MC over the past few years?

I went from freestyling to not being able to count bars to not really being able to write hooks. I can break down every album scientifically. Each album sounds like I mastered it. That's why I called "The End of the Beginning" that name, because I felt like I couldn't push myself any further. Then it changed when I started working with 9th. I've always been all over the place with producers and where they're from. Since people liked the first album with 9th so much, I figured I would do it again. I'm still developing.

Are you working on a new Living Legends album?

I don't know. I don't really work that much with Living Legends anymore.

Did anything happen?

No. We've been together for ten years and everybody is creating their own thing. Mainly I don't tour with them anymore. When "Classic" came out, I told them I wasn't going to tour with them, but they wanted me on the album. Then it got awkward performing because people can't hear the full songs because I'm not on the stage with them. It's a matter of logistics.

Are there any feelings of jealousy in the group over your solo success?

I don't think so. I don't know. I would say no. I don't think I've surpassed the crew. That's one thing I always said to them: "Nobody's ever above the crew." My solo work Soundscans what the Living Legends album did, so I don't really feel like I have exploded beyond the crew yet. If I do explode beyond the crew, I would hope that there would be no feelings of jealousy.

You had a lot of dope producers on "The End of the Beginning." What producers are you going to work with on the next album?

This next album, I'm going to make an album that I would actually listen to. I'm more of a West Coast-kind of guy. My favorite rappers are not in the underground scene. I'm going to work with who I want to. Me and El-P wanted to do something together. I might do a whole album with Aesop Rock. He's real dope. Me and Ant might do an album. I want to fuck with Dangermouse. I did some stuff for Mr. Dibbs' album. Me and Shock are definitely going to do something one day when we get our shit together.

In our last interview, you talked about trying to break even with "Walk Like a Man." How did you do?


I got robbed. I couldn't afford pressing it up myself, so I signed it over to some people. They were supposed to make sure I got my money back first. The checks came in their name and they decided to take all of the money. It's fucked up. They're still paying me back. I have half of the money I put into "Walk Like a Man" eighteen months later.

I'm blessed to not need it to live or eat and they're blessed enough that I don't need the money because I'd probably be in jail. Probably not. I'm too smart for that. They probably wouldn't be living, or at least living healthy lives. They needed the money more than me and they felt the need to take from me and breach contract. I might sue them for fun later on. A lot of bad things happen to me and I don't need bad things to happen to other people. I know what that feels like.

Does that make you more wary with whom you work with in the future?

Nah, man. I do what I do and I'll let God fight the devil. I'll use my common sense and if I'm in a situation that I can't handle, then I'll deal with it. I'm doing all right. I'm not starving. I'm a little angry and over-stressed. Hopefully it will get better.

Do you have plans for more DVD's in the future?

Oh hell yeah! I'm trying to start a new genre with that. I want to do soundtracks and DVD in one package. My video-magazine "MC TV" will be out too featuring Little Brother, Mr. Dibbs, Atmosphere, 3MG, and these kids I just signed…there's a lot of behind-the-scenes footage on that. It's a quarterly magazine. The first issue will be out at the Paying Dues Festival.

Are you going to start developing talent?

I always wanted to be an A&R more than a rapper.

Is there any chance of a new 3MG album?

Probably not. Except for Slug, I don't see myself working with anybody in the near-future. I want to be in control. I want to do what I want to do. Every project I've been a part of, I feel like I was never been able to do what I wanted to do. I want 150 % creative control, even though I know that's not a real percentage, but I have to get this out of my system. Then we can talk about a new 3MG album.

Do you have any plans to re-release your albums like "Good Music" or "F'real"?

You can still find "F'real" on CD. I repressed a lot recently, but I think I'm going to phase them out over the next couple of years.

Do you enjoy listening to your older material?

Once every five years I can do it just because it lets me know how far I've come. I feel like it's so bad. Some people say it's my best album, and I can't believe it because I've learned so much. I'm kind of embarrassed that that material is still out there, but the people want it. Being an MC is sort of like being a public servant in that sense.

How much do you listen to what your fans want?

I never do what I want. I say what I want, and that's as close as I get. I don't really pick my beats. I'll pick the producer because I like their vibe and energy. If the fans think I should work with somebody, I'll try it, but I'm always going to speak my mind and say what I want. I can make a whole song about something and hold your attention. If the fans want me to go on tour, then that's what I have to do. If they want another "Walk Like a Man," then that's what I'll do. As long as they don't try to censor what I say, then I'm happy.

What's your main focus on a daily basis right now?

Not shooting myself in the face, honest to God. A lot of rappers are driven by finances. Some people get up and try to buy more jewelry and get more hoes. I don't drink and I don't smoke, and I don't really have the need to have a million girls. I have no idea what's driving me or what I'm doing this for. I couldn't care less to anything that could happen in my career. There isn't anything that can happen today that can amaze me or truly disappoint me. There are things that can happen that irritate the shit out of me. I don't give a fuck. I did a song with E-40 and Shock G. I've been all around the world. I don't want a million dollars, but I'll take it. My focus is really on me not quitting and going into a hole and never coming out. I need to be on my medication quite honestly, but I'm not because I refuse to take drugs. Every day, my focus is on getting out of bed and answering my phone because everyone that calls me has a problem. I'm trying to not drive away, buy a house, and become a monk.

What do you want to say to your fans?

I love you guys. Thank you. Don't feel bad if you downloaded the album. I really don't give a fuck. Hopefully you can take something away from what I said and find something to laugh about. That'd be great.

What's up Hasan?

Nothing much. I'm chilling.


"Paradise Lost" is finally out. How does that feel?

It's a blessing because we've worked on it for so long. We've been working on it for two or three years. We were going back-and-forth on a lot of joints. To see it finally out is crazy. I still don't believe that it's really out and in stores right now.

Are you happy with how it came out?

I'm a perfectionist. Now that I look at it, I realize I could have done certain things better, but what I'm saying on it is exactly what I wanted to say at the time, so I'm happy with that. I'm still learning how to use my voice as an instrument. The last joint I recorded, "Prayer of a Sinner," I can hear the difference between that and my earlier joints. I can hear the growth on this album.

How do you grow as an MC?

On a musical level, you have to listen to yourself. I'm sure the same way someone plays an instrument like a horn and says, "If I go from this note to this note, it sounds better." I think a lot of times, MC's forget that they're supposed to be instruments. That's on a musical level. And personally, the more I read and the more perspectives I see, the more I grow as a person which means I'm also going to grow as an artist.

What was your inspiration for writing "Diaspora"?

At the time, I was reading a book about the African slave trade. It was Amir's book. It had a lot of slave testimonies. You know how school always tries to front like African history started with the slave trade. This book gives you real stories from people who survived. I was also reading Frederick Douglass' autobiography. Things like that change your perspective on things. I'm spitting actual facts. All the shit that they did was so vicious to the people. They made them lie on their side the whole time because if you lie on your back it can be problematic to your breathing. They knew what they were doing. Then I followed this track with "Blaxploitation" to show how people died for us and to tell people that we can do it on our own.

Looking at "Blaxploitation," how do you do feel about the consumerism that's so present in Hip Hop music today?

This is a capitalist society and capitalism will sell you revolutionaries if they think they can make money off of it. Howard Stern has the Black Power fist in his new ad campaign. They'll sell you anything. They also see how Hip Hop is making money so they want to get their hands in that, too. I don't think Hip Hop will ever stop bringing truth to people. Capitalism is going to try to snatch everything up and tell you what it is.

How important is it to be socially conscious in your rhymes?

If your eyes are open, you have an obligation. It's a sin to me if you know something and don't tell people. That's what the devil does. He keeps people in the dark. The beauty of Hip Hop is that it comes out in different ways. If someone lived a certain lifestyle, they'll tell you what it was like, whether it was the street life or the party life. You'll learn about the pitfalls and triumphs of people and maybe incorporate that into your own life to broaden your horizons.

How do you feel about BET not airing Coretta Scott King's funeral?

I didn't know that. BET is owned by Viacom. People have to remember that. MTV and BET pretty much have the same shows with different marketing. All BET has is videos and comedy. Once they took off Tavis Smiley, I stopped fucking with it. He was the truth. This is the first time I heard about it though because I don't have cable.

Do you feel that Hip Hop is a minstrel show today?

Entertainment is that way. You can never say Hip Hop is only one thing. Jean Grae or Immortal Technique or HiCoup are not a minstrel show and I consider those people Hip Hop. You can never just see what Viacom wants Hip Hop to be. I don't know what that shit is because I don't live that life. Look at the reality shows that aren't reality, but they'll call it "reality." I'll be walking down the street but nobody has ever grabbed me to go do a race around the world. Wife-swapping isn't reality. They do the same kind of shit with Hip Hop. This country has a fascination with black culture and the city. They're going to project what they want us to be. I remember there was some uproar about The Cosby Show and how that wasn't "real" black life. It may not be some people's lives, but there are black doctors out there.

Are these videos "real" black life?

I've never walked down the street and seen a girl in a bikini stripping on top of a Bentley, but I have seen loving couples that live like the Huxtables and who don't live like the Huxtables. Nobody is perfect out here, but they want people to think we live in a real negative way so they can justify shooting us in the back when we reach for a wallet. They can say, "Look on TV, all they do is sell drugs." They can justify themselves to the world. They had to kill Malcolm X before he brought everyone up on race crimes. The media slipped up when they showed people getting hosed down trying to vote. Now they tell you that you can be rich if you project a certain image.

What's your inspiration for writing?


Real life experiences.

What are your goals for "Paradise Lost" right now?

My only goal, honestly, is that I just want people to enjoy it. If it sells well, that's definitely a blessing. I wouldn't say that my goal is to sell records. My goal is to get pain off of my chest and make music that people can relate to, enjoy, and hopefully crack a smile. That's me doing my job.

How would you compare your "Paradise Lost" to John Milton's?

I've read parts of it. It's definitely poetry. We're both writing poetry. He used a lot of Biblical terminology to talk about the society he lived in, showing Biblical allegory, and I definitely talk about my people being the lost people from Israel. I'm relating that story on a smaller scale. We all lose things, whether it's talent, friends, family…we all lose something, but he have to keep moving and searching for personal peace. That's paradise to me. I'm not talking about a garden of utopia, but you can find peace within yourself because there is always going to be pain in the world.

How did you get down with MF Grimm and Day by Day?

That's a blessing right there. One of the members of the Monster Island Czars introduced me. Knowing Grimm is like knowing someone that other people would have to read about. It's definitely a blessing to know him and everyone at Day by Day. They're working to make a black-owned, artist distribution company. You can make what you want to make and someone will be representing you. I'm definitely most gracious for that.

What is 5th Column?

It's a collection of artists, business folk, and actors working to make this world a better place. On a musical level, it's me, HiCoup, Rugged and Raw, and Bad Sport. We've got a lot of geniuses working with us. These guys make me spit sharp. We've all got projects coming out soon. We've also got my brother Impaq who does production. He's light-years ahead of people on the production.

How was it working with Akir?

I heard him on the Tech album and he was nasty. It's good that we linked up. He let me hear some joints off his album…people are going to have to step it up after that drops. It just boggles my mind how much good music I hear from these people in the underground. That music should be out there because these people have skills and a lot of people are just putting out garbage. On a large scale, there's no food for thought. There are a lot of people serving up some real good music, and Akir is one of those cats.

What's next for you?

Just making more music, holding on to my job, and just building. I'm trying to put out another mixtape and I also have my second album that I'm working on. That's going to be called "Life in Black and White.

What do you want to say to everyone?

Peace. And don't go hunting with Dick Cheney.

If you're a real Wu Tang fan then you've got to understand what they are saying and mean in their lyrics. The meaning of common analogies used in their lyrics are shows below in alphabetical order - they represent Wu's philosophy.
This is the Wu B.I.B.L.E.

* Note: The Wu B.I.B.L.E. is not my work and full credit goes to Martin Lenngren for this brilliant compilation.



5% Nation - An Islamic group which started as an offshoot of the Nation Of Islam. They teach that any large group of people, and more specifically, the African American nation, can be divided into three groups, the 85% = basically the ignorant masses which need to be led, the 5% = the people with true knowledge of self whose job it is to lead the masses and fight against the 10%, the 10% = people who have partial knowledge of self and use it to gain power and wealth by exploiting the 85%, also referred to as "bloodsuckers of the poor". The chosen percentages are what they feel that the percentages are within the black community. These numbers are neither universal (all though these groups do exist within any large group) nor unchangeable.

6 Feet Deep - How deep your buried when your dead.

7 - The letter G, G = God.

10% - Rich slave makers of the poor, who teach the poor lies to make the people beleive that the old might living god is a spook in the sky and you can't see him with your psychal eye, Also know as blood suckers of the poor. "Now you got the 10% Who are rich slave niggas of the poor" From "Wu-Revolution".

16 Ooh - A building in Park Hill; number 160.

85% - Uncilived, poison animal eaters, they don't know who the true living god is or there orgins in the world. They worship what they know not and easly lead in the wrong direction. Also known as the Dumb, Def and Blind. "That came on the slave ships 85%." From "Wu-Revolution".

917 - This the area code where cell phones and pagers are on in new york.. "smoke a blunt and dial 917". From "Winter War

Abbot - The superior of a monastery. From Aramaic 'Abba' = Father.

Allah - Muslim name for the supreme being. The god of Islam and of Christians.

Amarredos - Italian bit-size cookies that often come with meals. "Eatin better amerados".

Anthidium Manicalcum - One of the Killa Bees (see Killa Bees).

Apis Mellifera - One of the Killa Bees (see Killa Bees).

Apocrypha - "Lost" books of the Bible, such as Enoch, Maccabees,...etc.

Armageddon - Battlefield described in the Bible in Revelation 16:16 as the scene of the predicted final struggle between good and evil. The name may be taken from that of the battlefield Megiddo (see Judges 5:19) in the Plain of Esdraelon, which was well known because of the many battles that were fought there between the Israelites and their enemies during the biblical period. Hence, the term has been applied to any great conflict or slaughter.

AWOL - A military term. It stands for Absent Without Official Leave. It's a serious charge. If you go AWOL when you are in the Army, you can get serious jail time. "Semi-automatic attack'll spray y'all liquid sword swingin slay all, I'm AWOL" From "Semi-Automatic Full Rap Metal Jacket".

Bag Up - Getting arrested or caught by the police.

Bammer - A gun. "Cock back my head like a hammer, my head is like a nickle platted bammer, spit 45 caliber grammer" From Deadly Melody.

Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth - The Bible.

Belly of the Beast - To be locked up in the system, to be in jail, the beast being the justice system.

Bent - Slang for being high/intoxicated. "Some fall victim, others get bent".

Bethlehem - Another name for Brooklyn but originaly it comes from a town in Jordan, which is cheifly a religious shrine. It is about 8km south of Jerusalem. "Comin from the brickhouses of Brooklyn, the Bethlehem" From "The Last Shall Be First Intro."

Biscuit - A gun.

Biter - A person who copies and ain't orginal. (see Shark nigga).

Black Chocolate - A black girl.

Black Shampoo - Type of shampoo that is supposed to stimulate people and make them horny.

Bolos - South American throwing weapon.

Boo - Girlfriend.

Book Of Enoch - A book of Apocrypha that tells of the coming Messiah, fallen angels, prophecies and more.

Box In Hand - From old Kung Fu flicks. The student had to get the Box out of the masters hand.

Brooklyn House - A Prison. "Or get locked the fuck up in Brooklyn house." From "Snakes".

Brooklyn Zoo - Brooklyn in generall.

Buckshot - Term for bullet, more specific is a type of shotgun bullet that shoots out pellets which spread instead of a normal solid bullet.

Burner - A gun.

Butter Pecan - Puerto Rican girl. "One love to my butter-pecan ricans for calling me poppy." From "Ice Cream".

Calico - A gun.

Cheddar - Money.

Chef - Cocaine cook. "Chef Cocain cook, a marvelous book". From "Heaterz".

Cherry head - That´s a fool-ass nigga.

Chi - The greatest attribute of a Shaolin monk/warrior was that he was almost invisible, his body before the invention of firearms was almost impenetrable, neither swords, knives or nunchuckas could penetrate the skin of a monk. This is due the ability of monks to make contact with the earth, in doing so giving them the ability to draw upon energy in its purest form. This was called 'chi' This mastering ensured that a monk could use his head as a anvil or his hands as hammers without any fear of pain. Many conditioning techniques where employed to prepare a monk to this state. It took three years of techniques like the Louhan Beating Technique, which were practised for at least 3 hours a day before a monk could say he had mastered his chi. Louhan Beating technique involves the beating of a warriors body to condition it from pain. This was done by a constant beating from the front, side and back of a warrior simultaneously from other monks with both their hands and legs.

Chicken Head - Term used when referring to females who perform blow jobs (oral sex on males), because of the motion of the woman's head back and forth, like a chichenhead. "Chickenheads gettin slim like olive oil." From "4th Chamber".

Chrome - Gun, as in "adress him with chrome only".

C-cipher - Cops, police. "Watch for the wooden soldiers, C-cipher punks couldn´t hold us". From "Triumph".

Cipher - 1. Another word for circle. 2. Surroundings, neighbourhood.

Clarks - Company who makes "Wallabees". "Boom, yo I got a crazy idea how to do Clarks now." From "Glaciers of Ice".

Cock Block - To prevent someone from having sex. "Aiyo, this shit be off the knock it rock whatever cock block it" From "Black Jesus".

Concrete Jungle - Slang for any Inner-city area because the Inner-city is like a jungle cause it's so wild and it's a city so it's concrete.

Crane style - It is a system in which one keeps the arms wide and making wing like movements, high kicking and the cranes beak, a hand weapon made by joining the fingertips firmly.

Cream - Money, Cash Rules Everything Around Me (C.R.E.A.M).

Crill-Crill - Another name for crack. "Cash crills, dollar bills, swish suit on. screw on, dry cell nigga with his loot on" from "Nighttime Vultures".

Crime - Criminals Robbin' Innocent Muthafuckas Everytime. From "I Got Your Back"

Crooked I Sipper - Crooked I is a drink made by St. Ides but it's non-alcoholic. This is someone who drinks it because they can't handle their liquor. It's considered a diss to call someone that.

Cuban Linx - A type of gold chain Raekwon has it on in Ghostfaces album cover.

Darts - Styles, dart throwing = throwing styles which the Wu is suppose to have a unlimited amount of. "This year we throw darts in the air." From "Oh Donna".

Death trap - An unsafe building or other structure.

Desert E - Short for a gun brand called Desert Eagle, famous for magnum type weapons. "Own a Desert E Keep it closely, I feed off envy and foul energy." From S.O.S.

Dick Rider - Someone that tries to kiss ass or suck up. / One who blindly follows artists without any objectivity. "That shit is fucked up yo, we never turn to dick riders." From "Little Ghetto Boys".

Disciple - Jesus had 12 disciples, who followed him in his mission.

Divine - 1. a) Being a deity. b) Of or relating to a deity. 2. Superhuman, godlike. 3. Supremely good, magnificent. "The all eye seein, heavenly divine The truth brings out, the temper in my spine." From "Supa Ninjaz".

Dragon style - Is at first a hard external style, but turns into a flowing and very defensive art. The point of the style is tire an opponent out by stopping his counter attacks. The attacks are disguised and extremely smooth. They are a parries of simple strikes.

Drop science, drop knowledge - To demonstrate wisdom or skill.

Drunk Style - During the Tang dynasty Shaolin warriors saved the life of Emperor Li Shimin'. A imperial decree was issued allowing Shaolin Monks to eat meat and drink wine, something they did very little of. as the Shaolin monks drank very little many became drunk. After some observation of a drunk person it was decided that the actions of a drunk person could be used in a powerful new style. This they developed Drunk Style. The style uses the slow and sloppy moments of a drunk person to create a great amount of force behind each blow thrown.

Duck - Sucker.

Duck Seazon - Hunting for ducks, (see Duck).

Dulses - Bullets.

Dumb, Deaf and Blind - Is used to describe people who have not followed the ways of the 5% nation of islam.

Dutchmaster - Dutch Master is a brand of cigars. Sometimes when rolling a serious blunt, the tobacco is removed from a cigar and replaced with marijuana.

Eagle Technique - This Shaolin Kung Fu technique mimics a Eagles swooping on his prey. this offensive style employs swift powerful hits from both the hands and legs to disable the enemy.

Earths - Female member of the 5% nation of Islam.

Fam - Short for Family.

Fish - Pussy.

Flavor Wallabees - Wallabees that are dyed. (see Walllabees).

Hollows, or Hollow point - A type of bullet which seem to expload on contact.

French Vanilla - Frensh Girl. "Big up to my french vanillas parlez vous, francais, mi amor, merci, oui oui, bon bons and all that good stuff". From "Ice Cream".

Full Metal Jacket - A type of bullet which seems to split up and tear, cutting the target on contact.

Ganja/Ganja Leaf - Marijuana. "Super freak physique. like Raphael Saadiq Baby love the ganja leaf, everday of the week". From "It´s Yourz".

God degree - Food.

God hour - 7 o´ clock.

Gods - Blackmen who are part of the 5 percent nation of Islam.

God U's - Guns.

Gotham - Used as an alias for New York. From the comic book character Batman's fictional home town.

Gravedigga - A person that´s trying to awake mentaly dead people.

Grill - Head or Mouth. "Still punch a cobra in his grill" from "Inmates of The Fire"

Guillotine - Decapitating machine, named after a French physician, Joseph Ignace Guillotin, who proposed its use in 1789. It consists of two upright posts, grooved on the inside and connected at the top by a crossbeam. A sharp, oblique blade, placed between the grooves, is held at the top of the machine by a rope. On release of the rope, the blade drops onto the neck of the victim strapped to a board at the base of the machine. Similar execution devices were known before the guillotine, which was used largely during the French Revolution 1789-1799.


Hasmonian - Member of Maccabean family or dynasty.

Hater - One who dislikes an artist for no musical reason.

Heaterz - Gunz.

Herbalz - Marijuana, orgins from "herbs".

High Numbers - Many years.

Hollows, or Hollow point - A type of bullet which seem to expload on contact.

Hottie - Fine or attractive female.

Ice - 1. Drugs, particullarly cocaine. 2. Diamonds. "We gonna pull a heist, snatch ice or rock mics".

Ice Cream - 1. see "Ice" 2. A fly honey or fly girl.

Ice Grill - 1. To give someone a mean look 2. A gun from "Windpipe".

Immobilarity - 1. I Master More Opponents By Implementing Loyalty And Respect In To Youngsters. 2. Real property; tangible assets; i.e. real estate.

Jakes - Cops, Police.

Javeline - Light spear used as a weapon. "As I stick my javeline up in your abdomen." From Flamling Swords.

Jewels - Knowledge, when you teach someone your dropping jewels on them.

Johnny Blaze - Marvel Comics superhero GhostRider's real name, meth tends to call himself johnny blaze sometimes kinda like Tony Starks = Ironman from comic book.

Johnny Dangerous - ex. Johnny Blaze. (see Johnny Blaze) "Who got John Blazeshit?/ suckin' my dick to get famous/ so I switched from Blaze to "Dangerous". From "Torture".

Judgement Day - Its the last day on earth when we either go to hell or heaven. (see Repentance Day).

Jungle Nilz - Mariners Harbor (Staten Island hood).

Kangol's - Are those hats that with the lil' kangaroo on them.

Kevlar - Originally designed for steel-belted radial tires, Kevlar is a high-strength fiber that is 5 times stronger than steel. Kevlar helmets prevent small-caliber ammunition from penetrating the helmet and provide protection for the head, temple, ear and neck "Rapid fire shots ripple through kevlar" from "Spazzola"

Killa Bees There is a lot of different species.
Anthidium Manicalcum - This is the most aggressive territorial bee known. Male often kills any bee who enters their territory. This bee represents Raekwon, Method Man, Inspectah Deck, Masta Killa, Bobby Digital (RZA), Ghostface Killah and Cappadonna.
Megachile Willughbiella - Comes from Kenya. This is an enormous family with thousands of species commonly called Mason Bees. They represent Killarmy, Sunz of Man, Royal Fam and Shyheim.
Apis Mellifera - Represent Black Knights of the North Star, A.I.G., Ruthless bastards, Remedy and The Beggaz.

Killah Hill - Park Hill (Staten Island hood).

King I Divines - Kids "King I Divines never shine when we enter the sector"

Knuckle Up - Ready to fight, by closing ones fist and opening it or popping knuckles. "Start to knuckle up and, gun shots start to click the block's duckin." From North Star(Jewels)

Koran - The sacred text of Islam, considered by Muslims to contain the revelations of God to Muhammad. Also called Alcoran.

La Costra Nostra - 1).An Italian Mob saying, means "This thing of ours". Referring to the Italian Maffia itself. "Flash madelines like Italians, la costra nostra, we moving to your hood like we supose ta." From "Duck Seazon".
2).Leader

Lebanon - Another name for Long Beach.

Leopard style - An intermediate of the Tiger style (see Tiger Style) it has several major offensive techniques the chain and whip and the leopard fist. The fist is used too jab and rake soft point on the human structure. It is an offenive style meant to injure an opponent.

Liquid swords - Being lyrically sharp with your tongue.

Lucci - Money.

Luger - German hand gun used by the Nazi's in the Second world War. Also known as Parabellum. "Two slugs from my luger will move ya" From "La Saga".

Maccabees - 1. Ruling Jewish dynasty that ruled Palestine aproximately 141 b.c. to 37 b.c. 2. Two books of the Old Testament Apocrypha that tell of the Maccabees revolt over Syria.

Madhatter - Drug Dealer.

Manchuz - Short for Manchurians, the Shaolin monks enemys according to ancient legends.

Mantis - "The technique, depends mainly on arm and finger strength. Once you've that, then the next step is to learn how to pierce stone. Well you might as well start practicing now. Do you-Do you-Do you-Do you Do you know, mantis legends? How it was it all started? It was fighting off this blackbird. Although it was only a tenth of the bird's size it was a very valiant insect. And that's why the technique, needs a brave man. And a strong one, who isn't afraid of birds". "Man-Mantis style isn't easy to learn. A mantis is small, but powerful. With it's arms, it can lift up many times it's own weight". From "Mantis".

Mecca - Harlem/Uptown. A city in western Saudi Arabia near the coast of the Red Sea. One of the three holy cities in Islam cause it´s the birthplace of the prophet Muhammed. (see Medina and New Jerusalem)

Medina - A city of western Saudi Arabia north of Mecca. The Wu use it as another name for Brooklyn.

Megachile Willughbiella - One of the Killa Bees (see Killa Bees).

Milk the Cow - Dropping knowledge to the youth. Like giving milk to a baby so he/she can live.

Monkey Style - Monkey Style's offensive and defensive positions are meant to surprise and disorient an enemy. This style is the first mastered style of a child monk, who are usually initiated at the age of about 10.

New Jerusalem - New Jersey.

Nickle platted - A gun with chrome outside. "Kid, you oughta start reachin' for that nickle-plated auto- Matic, my thoughts get sporadic"

Noodles - Masta Killa's alias, taken from the character played by Robert De Niro in "Once Upon A Time In America" directed by Sergio Leone.

Now born - New Brighton (Staten Island hood).

Old earth - Mother, "shes the old earth couse she fertalizes the seed".

Only Built 4 Cuban Linx - Only made for those who understand.

Peace - Positive Enlightenment Always Corrects Errors.
Proper Equality Activates Controlled Emotions.
Positive Energy Actives Constant Elevations.
Protons Electrons Always Cause Explosions.
Positive Energy, Always Corrects Errors.
Protons, Electrons, Atoms Cause Explosions.

Pelican - 1. Guns 2. Bullets.

Pelon - Another name for Bronx.

Pie - Pussy

Pillage - To rob of goods by force; plunder. "The Pillage is all the trials and tribulations black people have endured - slavery, statistics, arrests. It's everything we have survived through getting stripped of our culture, language and freedom and being hated by all other races" according to Cappa.

PJ's - Projects.

P.L.O. - Stands for Palestine Liberation Organization, a group of Arab terrorists.

Politic/Pollyin' - Running shit by talking game, like politicians do.

Poppi Wardrobe King - Capp's alias when speaking on his "Top dresser one man catalouge" style in "Slang Editorial"

Power-U - Pussy.

Praying mantis style - It is about 100% power output and the style is often deadly there really is not lot of coreagraphed moves it is just about hurting the opponent as much as posible (see Mantis).

Precint - 1. A district of a city, patrolled by a specific unit of its police force. 2. An election district of a city or town. As in "His weekends was frequently locked inside a precint" or "After watching Jacky Gleesen walk into a precident gunned down the captain for now fucking reason".


Red Hook - Not only a record label that drops bootleg albums on us, it´s also an area in Brooklyn.

Rellish - A vegtible, but term wise its marijuana. "Light up the broccoli kid, throw the rellish in my back pocket" From "Projects".

Repentance day - It's the last day on earth when we either go to hell or heaven. (see Judgement Day).

Represent - Hold true to who you are and where you come from.

Rikers Island - A famous prison in NY it was built before 1900's. and before San Quentin. Like in "Everyone from Riker's Island to San Quentin, keep ya heads up niggas".

Ruckus - A disturbance; commotion.

Ruler Zig-Zag-Zig Allah - RZA.

Scrape - To fuck.

Scuds - Slang for bullets. Named after Scud missles. "Young bloods bust back like scuds." From "Bells Of War".

Seed - Child.

Serpent Style/Snake Style - Serpent Style is used to scare an enemy. This technique exploits the opponents weak spots by making treachorous attacks, at a tremendous speed inflicting much damage and confusion each time it is employed. The style consists of numerous complicated moves but it is basically supposed to prey on pressure points and cause severe internal bleeding that is not life threatening. You are to use an upright stance which allows for more mobility. Blows are not traded in this style it is mostly quick devastating blows and then a lot of dodging

Shadow box - 1).To spar with an imaginary opponent.
2).is a form of shaolin fighting where the hands move really fastsame with shadow kick.

Shaolin - Nickname for Staten Island.

Shark nigga - A person who copies and ain't original.

Sheik - A leader of an Arab or Muslim tribe, village, or family.

Shimmy - Booty, ass.

Shines - Gold chains

Shogun - The hereditary commander of the Japanese army, a general.

S-I-N-Y - Staten Island New York from 'Spazzola'

Slug - Term for bullet, more specific a type of shotgun bullet which is solid and very powerful. "Slugs hit the belly" From Knuckleheadz

Sing Sing - A jail in New York. "I sing a song from Sing-Sing" or "which strap the sinners in, to sell such in Sing-Sing".

Snakes - People you can't trust, probably orginated from "Adam and Eve" while being tricked by the devil when he appeared as a snake.

Snake style - The style consists of numrous complicated moves but it is basically supposed to prey on pressure points and cause severe internal bleeding that is not life threatening. You are to use an upright stance which allows for more mobility. Blows are not traded in this style it is mostly quick devastating blows and then a lot of dodging.

Sodom and Gomorrah - According to the Old Testament (notably Genesis 18, 19), two ancient cities near the Dead Sea. The Bible almost invariably speaks of them together. With Admah, Zeboiim, and Zoar, they formed the five "cities of the plain," all but the last-named of which are said to have been destroyed by a rain of brimstone, perhaps accompanied by an earthquake, because of the wickedness of their inhabitants. Some evidence indicates that they did exist, were destroyed, and that their sites now lie under the Dead Sea. The biblical story of the destruction of the cities is considered by many critics similar to tales found among the Arabs (and other ancient peoples) regarding the sudden disappearance of places; indeed, Lot, who in the biblical story survives the destruction, figures prominently in the Koran. Those who deny the literal accuracy of the narrative contend that the desolate character of the land around the Dead Sea, which is fatal to plant and animal life, would naturally suggest the thought of some catastrophe. Jesus Christ said that on the day of judgment, God would be more severe with cities rejecting the gospel than he had been with Sodom and Gomorrah (see Matthew 10:15, 11:20-24).

Soul Controller - To be the controller of all things around you.

Stapleton - Staten Island hood.

St. Ides - A brand of malt liquor. Wu-Tang has done comercials for them.

Sun, Moon and Stars - Man, Woman and Child.

Son Of Man - A term used to describe Jesus in revalations. "There he was standing with a gold girtle, as the son of man".

Sunshower - Judgement Day.

Supreme Alphabet - The Supreme Alphabet consists of the 26 letters having seperate meanings. (ex G is God, Z is Zig-Zag-Zig). (see 5% Nation)

Supreme Mathmatics - Teaches that the numbers 0-9 means. 0- Cipher 1- Knowledge 2- Wisdom 3- Understanding 4- Culture 5- Power 6- Equality 7- God 8- Build 9- Born And when Knowledge is Born you get 10 which is Knowledge-Cipher, because the circle cannot be activated without the Knowledge. Cipher is shown only as 10 because once you complete a Cipher, the Knowledge is present for you to begin to complete the next Cipher. The Wu use these a lot and it helps to know it. It's used mostly for years; you've heard Born-God (97) or Capp shout out he's "Takin' it back to Build-Build". (see 5% Nation)

Swayze - To be a ghost, to disappear.


Tabernacle - A Religious Sanctuary. Wu usually means the Holy Tabernacle Ministries, which is a group led by Dr. Malachi Z. York.

Tai-Chi - Its a martial arts that you use to meditate and to expand your mind (see Chi).

Tec 9 - A Tec 9 (Intertec) is a submachine gun capable of firin about 450 rounds(bullets) a minute. "This tecnique is tec 9.".

Thai stick - Marijuana

Tec - 9mm handgun. "not a handgun was silent, not even a tec".

The Desert - Another name for Queens.

Tical - Marijuana, word from native american tribe "Tikal"

Tiger style - Is a hard external style that meets force with force with force. Its primary hand weapons are the closed fist and the tiger claw while the kicking manuevers are usually low to middle range kicks of extreme power. The key to the style is the strong counter attack.

Timberlands - Wu's footwear of choice, rock these in winter and Clarks in the summer.

Tony Starks - Ghostface Killah's Wu-Gambino name, orginated from Ironman from Marvel comics because one of Ghostface's alias is Ironman.

Tossin Salad - In prison, gay fags throw food on each others ass and eat it out, when you eat fish and tosh salad, you eat her pussy out with some food on it, like you could throw jelly on your pussy and eat her out.

Walk the Dog - Taking care of business.

Wallabes - A brand of shoes made by clarks, those are those shoes on the Ironman album cover, Ghostface dyes all his wallabee.

Wally's - Short for Wallabees. (See Wallabees). "Red and white Wally's that match, bend my baseball hat." From "Daytona 500".

What the Blood Clot - An expression used by Jamaicans it has to do with womens menstrual cycles and is an insult, but in this case it just means what the hell.

Whip - Car.

Wigg - Head, as in "I´m gonna split your wig with the heater" (see Heaterz).

Wildflower - Pussy.

Wildin' - Actin' wild.

Wild Wild West - West Brighton (Staten Island hood).

Winter Warz - The cold war.

Wiz/Wisdom - A girlfriend/wife.

Wu-Tang - "Witty Unpredictable Talent And Natural Game"
"We Usually Take All Niggas Garments"
"We Usually Take Another Niggas Garments"
"Wisdom of the Universe and the Truth of Allah for the Nation of the Gods"
"Wisdom Unlocks Taught Ambitions, Nurturing Gods"

“Money, Power, Respect…”you probably thought that catchy phrase was coined by money hungry ego centric emcees of the shiny suit era, huh??? Well I’m here to tell you that way before your favorite block scribes made attempts to strong arm the game and hold down your ears for the next few summers, leaders of The Roman Empire and other dictator type factions of our history books were doing what the LOX were yelling about on a larger scale. Take Caligula as an example, besides being the Roman Emperor, the guy was a mad man, torturing and murdering people for kicks and partaking in orgies amongst masons in his spare time. The off the rocker antics of Caligula would make even your most shock friendly emcee blush in embarrassment. In an ungodly city like New Orleans with its’ girls gone wild antics and other similarities to Rome it is only right that an emcee of the same morbid mind frame of the infamous Roman Emperor would come out of the woodwork bearing the same name as Caligula. “The Clone Killer” Caligula wants it to be known from the gate that this is far from your same old teenage angst, cut your wrists for attention type of rebellion music, this is more like your take over an empire triple six type of movement called Caligulanity. We sat down with the New Orleans emcee and he gave us the heads up on why he might have a Polaroid of your future wife in a very uncompromising position, why Mardi Gras will still be popping under water, and when two scumbags like Ra the Rugged Man and Caligula get on a track what kind of events can transcend. So wack emcees hold your tongue a new world order has gained an iron fist control of the industry where torture is acceptable, and it goes by the name of Caligula…





Most people have yet to have their minds twisted by the sick persona that is Caligula, so for those who have been sleeping on the “Clone Killer” this is your chance to crash their slumber party, in other words who is Caligula and what are you doing different in an industry over ran with open mic dust head emcees fresh from the psych ward???


Well first of all most of these cats out here are just gimmicks. I mean allot of the stuff I talk about is grimey but allot is related to true to life experiences that I have been around. “Love Massacre” was inspired by my friend Casey whose boyfriend shot and killed her and then turned the gun on himself. Allot of Clone Killer was just me venting. I was angry and not in a very good place in my life. I’m not a huge conspiracy theorist but the government is fucked at this point in time and I don’t really see it getting much better. That’s where allot of my anti-political tracks come from. After huge tragedies happen on our soil we pretend to give a fuck but nothing ever really gets done about anything. We are still vulnerable to terrorists. If another Katrina hit New Orleans, we’d become Atlantis again. So much of our money is being spent in Iraq. It’s pointless. When we leave there, shit will go right back to how it was. Bush’s beef with Sadaam was on some “You beat up my daddy” type shit. Anyway, as for me I can’t even listen to Clone Killer anymore. People that just now hear it tell me that the album is dope and I appreciate the feedback but this new shit is me. “War Games” is highly conceptual. I’m a self-loather and allot of my depression comes out in here but it does not overtake the album. A lot of Wars I deal with in my mind and my life on a day to day basis are on here. I’m a very self destructive severe alcoholic. A lot of this album is autobiographical and allot of it is concept storytelling. It also has a lot of anti-political messages you’ll get to hear, especially on my personal favorite track “1984”.


When mentioning the name Caligula people initially associate your moniker with the ruthless Roman emperor of the same name, how did the name of a dead Roman dictator become associated with the emcee that stands before us today, and I don’t know if you paid attention in history class or not but how is the Caligula of Rome comparable to the Caligula of hip-hop???

Ha-ha, I get this allot. When I took the name I was off my leash. I would drink morning till night, get into fights all the time, and I was addicted to sex. Not just addicted like I liked sex allot, but I wouldn’t even fuck with a girl unless I would be making porn with her. Allot of these poor girls I have documented are married now. I had to move out of town for awhile from this one incident outside of a bar. This 300 lbs. guy came at me with a pool stick. I had a broken left hand at the time so I grabbed a car club and split his head open. I had to bounce for a few months. Sometimes my self destructive side would come out and I would start fights with 5-8 people and not even try to defend myself. I’ve had glass shoved in my face before bottles broken in my eye etc. I don’t know, like sometimes I felt like I should die but I guess I would have rather for someone else to do it for me. I had remembered learning about Caligula in school. I remember reading a bio on him years ago and I loved it. I related to allot of it at the time. I still have a lot of issues but I’m not as far off as I was then. I had put off recording for so long because of my debauchery.

You are fresh off of releasing your first album, “Clone Killer,” we at Gorilla Movement know how hard it is to get people off their asses and out to the record stores to actually buy albums when music these days is so easily accessible by the click of a mouse, so for the unfortunate souls who have yet to purchase “Clone Killer,” what are their tape decks missing, what producers did you work with, artists, etc., and why did you decide to release an EP instead of releasing a full length for your first official record???

You can’t do anything about it. Downloading will only get worse before it gets better. All I can say is this, if you really like an independent artist buy the music. If the artist is putting all of their money into their own release and not seeing anything in return, eventually finances will not allow them to make new music. I released an EP first because allot of these were much older tracks. It was just something to get my name out and have a few heads hear me. In my opinion “War Games” will be my first official release. It is me. As far as buying “Clone Killer,” buy it if you just want to hear some gritty sounding shit with some stories and plot twists. Some retailers that will carry “War Games” will be giving away “Clone Killer” with orders as a package deal.

Are there any personal or hidden meanings behind the title of the record, “Clone Killer???”

It’s just what it says. I’m just sick of everything sounding the same. Mainstream all sounds the same. Underground all sounds the same. In the underground you have allot of these backpack cunts that look down on people for listening to any other type of music. These are the same kids that think Wu-Tang is old school and just got into hip-hop in the late 90’s. I personally do not listen to much rap to get inspired to write. I listen to a lot of 70’s punk right now. I go through different music phases. It’s weird because Scarface (Geto Boys) is probably my biggest rap influence. I sound nothing like him but listening to Scarface makes my want to write.


On “Clone Killer” you had the privilege of working with some veterans in the realm of indie hip-hop including Aesop of Living Legends, Kimani of the Masterminds and Rosevelt Franklin, and Cadence of Raw Produce to name a few, being that you are still kind of fresh out the box how did the collabos on the record come into effect???

All of those cats are cool as hell. I am a fan of their music and I basically just asked them if they wanted to get on the EP. They helped me a lot by telling their fans about the CD etc. They are good people.

You are already hyping your follow up to “Clone Killer,” how will “War Games” differ sound and concept wise from your previous release, how have you grown as an artist and an emcee since “Clone Killer,” what artists and producers are you working with this time around, and when can we expect the record to hit stores???

I have grown all around as an artist. My delivery, concepts, flow, and cadence on the mic are 100% better. Katrina fucked me with the release date. I wanted it out January first but it probably will not drop until mid 06’. As far as artists I am working with MF Grimm, RA The Rugged Man, Gortex (Non-Phixion), Scott Bluntz, Impulss and more. Production wise Camu Tao, Clockwork, Lyrical Graphiti , Cheap Cologne, Impulss, Lyrikill and more will be producing on it. I’m using a lot of different producers to have every track feel different.

“Clone Killer” was released by Long Range Distribution, but “War Games” is going to be released by Day by Day Entertainment, what is your relationship toady with Long Range Distribution, how did you link up with MF Grimm and company to become apart of Day By Day’s stable of artists, and what do you think Day by Day Entertainment can do differently with “War Games” that Long Range couldn’t do with “Clone Killer???”

My relationship with Long Range is very cool. Marc Kempf the CEO is a great guy. He helped promote “Clone Killer” with thousands of stickers, flyers, radio play, compilation features etc. I had sent a demo to Day By Day to this cat I know that used to work there. I called one day to see if he had received it but they said he did not work there anymore. When I told them who I was and why I was calling I was well received. Azar at Day By Day told me that they were really feeling the old joint. We discussed my dropping a full length on their label. Long Range is great but Day by Day is a growing label that can get my album in allot more stores. Grimm is a man with a vision. That cat is one of the hardest workers in the game just with the label and artists, but still finds time to make dope records of his own.


“War Games” will feature a collabo with the Zen master of morbid, shock value, scum bag emcees, Ra The Rugged Man, how did you end up working with the same emcee that got dropped by Jive for sexual harassment, what can you tell us about the track, working with Ra, and are there any future collabos in the future with the Rugged Man??

My best friend met him on a subway and gave him a bootleg of some of my stuff. He got in touch with his manager about an RA show before Katrina fucked everything up. He then put his manager in touch with me. As far as future collaborations, I’m not sure who I’m going to be working with.


You have resided in various cities, Atlanta, New York, and Houston, before calling New Orleans your permanent residence, how did you end up in the “Big Easy,” and from a scene and culture standpoint how does New Orleans differ from the other cities that you have called home during your life???


Well I was born in New Orleans. I love it here. It is my favorite city. I was here first and then I did allot of traveling. New York is beautiful. I love it there, and it’s very convenient for me because allot of the emcees that I’m working with live there. I’m going up there again to record with Scott Bluntz pretty soon. Atlanta is cool, I used to go there allot. The hip hop scene had gotten so big there. They closed Fat Beats there which sucks because I loved that place. As far as Houston, I love music from there. Scarface, Willie D., Bushwick Bill,Gangsta NIP, all of that stuff. Even the new shit like Paul Wall I’m kind of getting into. The hip-hop scene in New Orleans has grown allot. Many of the people responsible for that had to scatter around the country because of Katrina. Their hearts are still in it so it hasn’t died. The emcees, DJ’s, producers, writers etc. that I know in New Orleans are strong willed. They will all bounce back.


When people think of New Orleans they automatically associate the New Orleans hip-hop scene to Cash Money, No Limit, and other bounce type music. Do you think critics and hip-hop heads wrongfully stereotype the musical scene of your city, and besides the obvious who are some of the artists waving the flag for the New Orleans hip-hop scene???

Well that stuff is from here so people will always associate N.O. with it. As far as underground artists go…Euphonetiks, Illdren, Lucky Stiffs, Dome City Dust Crushers(formerly God Awful) Rough C’z, Skratchmo, J. Infinite, DJ Quickie Mart, Lyrikill, Bionik Brown, RUIN, Clayton Awful, Soapboxx, Lady Fingaz, Impulss, there are too many to remember right now.

Americans were horrified by the tragic events that were caused by Hurricane Katrina, that basically turned your home town into a “Dawn of the Dead” or an “Escape from New York” apocalyptic type city. Were you in New Orleans when the hurricane hit your city, from an insiders perspective how did Katrina and the events that followed effect your every day life, what is your take on Louis Farrakhan conspiracy theories, and does Bush hate the black people of New Orleans???

Well I think Bush hates all black people, not just in New Orleans. Bush is a real piece of shit. My house was completely fucked, I moved 30 minutes North of N.O. where I am currently staying. It was ridiculous. Power out for 13 days here, looters, gunshots every night, everyone had guns. It seemed like it was never going to end. My friend Josh that is in the army had to go restore order to the Superdome. They were tying floating bodies to light poles to keep count. As far as conspiracy theories I do not think that this was planned but the government sure the fuck took their time with recovery efforts.

Will there be a Mardi Gras this year, if so will Caligula be in attendance with beads in hand, and give our envious readers a last time Caligula was at Mardi Gras story that will put Girls Gone Wild infomercials to shame???

Wow. I don’t know if I will go this year. I may be in N.Y. but I have too many stories and the pictures to prove them! Ha-ha, it is my favorite time of the year. A week of public drunkenness, public ludeness, naked girls, it gets out of hand and I love it! 60% of the cops in N.O. left so I ‘m sure there will be good times this year. You can usually see girls giving head in public, people fucking, girls going at it with other girls etc. You should check it out one year.


At this years Scribble Jam, Icon the Mic King got to give Pete Nelson something you have been dying to give him for a very long time, how did your hatred for Copywrite first develop, have you had the privilege of running into him, and what are your thoughts on the Icon the Mic King beat down that he caught at Scribble Jam???

Hahahaha! That was great. Icon and I had a good laugh about that. I bought some beats from Pete years ago and he had kept ducking me. To this day no beats. He will get what is coming to him again. If you fuck over enough people it will come back on you. Camu Tao and Scottie Bluntz also lumped this kid up. Karma has not been good to him as of late.

You had a small role in the Sundance released movie “Becoming Vex,” how did you get involved in the film, what was your role, what can you tell us about the movie, and do you have plans of acting in any more movies down the line???

Nah, I’m not good at acting. My best friend is an actor and got me in the movie. I was just one of the main characters friends in the movie. My character just basically drank allot, egged on fights and whatnot.

From the song “Alex Krycek” off of “Clone Killer” it’s very obvious that pop culture has some kind of effect on what you write about, what was the last movie you saw, book you read, or album you bought that inspired you to hit the studio???

Yea, I love the X-Files. I just watched 1984 again and just watched Devil’s Rejects for the 1st time. I’m into the Jon Stewart America book at the moment. As far as albums I have been listening to a lot of Sex Pistols and Geto Boys lately.


What is on tap for Caligula for the rest of 2005 and on into 2006???

Hopefully I will stop hating myself so much. I want this album to be flawless. I wouldn’t mind finding a girlfriend instead of messing with random girls all of the time. I don’t want The AIDS.

Do you have any last words, shout outs, disses, Zen Ideologies, or Springer Final Thoughts that you would like to leave the readers with???

“Regrets I’ve had a few, but then again to few to mention.”