Thursday, 21. June 2007, 19:26:42
Professional HYIP SCAMmers groupITrade4U.biz crashTill the end they seemd to be reliable to me. Then we all could saw:
"This Domain is for Sale FAPIC INVEX E-BASTION TROYBANK ITRADE4U OPENTRADE are our most famous projects! Thank you to have helped us to achieve them, and see you soon for the next one! Shalom, David."
Their message at MoneyMakerGroup.com forum:My Dear Friends,
After reading all your cries in various boards, I would like to tell you a few things that you probably did not understand well
The basis is that all (I wrote ALL, A-L-L) hyip are scams. NO exception If it would be possible to do 1.20% (or even 1%) by day, EVERY day, why would people go to work at 8 AM every day? They would just sit and look at their growing account Moreover, ALL hyip are MADE TO SCAM, from the very beginning! When I read some idiots saying that HYIP turn into a scam for various reasons, I LAUGH Hyip are scams from the beginning, the GOAL IS TO SCAM!
After we closed e-bastion, I told you that we also run Troybank, remember? And that we will close it very soon! I invited, very kindly, you to withdraw your money, giving you a CHANCE to not lose too much Most of you said "bull****"! To make the things more fun, we posted a few days later a message signed by the "Troybank admin" saying that all was bull****, Troybank is online since 1996, a SERIOUS and HONEST bank, etc etc.
The result, you remember, hey? We closed Troybank a month later, and laughed reading at your messages
But we warned you, WHY didn't you believe us?
Today, same thing: I KINDLY, VERY KINDLY tell you that we also run opentrade and that we are going to shut it down. Why do I tell you that? Because I don't want you lose too much
Now ladies and gentlemen, do like you want, but be ready to cry sooner than expected
I would like to tell you something else: Every time some of you asked Liz (Liz was a GREAT invention, don't you think so? A nice girl So every time you asked LIZ which guarantee we can give, we told you "NO guarantee". So WHY ARE YOU CRYING NOW ?
Specialists began to look after us, we are very afraid You needed 5 months to discover that Liz address in London is a hotel ) We just pick up addresses on Google! Easy, hey? Anyway you may go to London and visit this place, please tell me if rooms are comfortable, maybe one day one of us will sleep there
Well, you already know I am a very kind guy, so here us a good recommendation: Don't waste your time by looking after us, guys! it will cost you money, and better to keep your money (to give it to our next hyipscam
Addresses? False.
IP addresses? False.
ID for banks? False.
Photos on ID? One of us is a GREAT specialist of changing his face! So, his photos, well...
Video records in banks? See above about photos
So, good luck, Sherlock Holmes
I send this letter to a few of you KIND INVESTORS that allowed us to make more than USD 2,000,000 with Liz Waren! Don't wate your time to reply, I won't read your mails!
Be ready to our next program, it will open immediately after opentrade will close
As Liz told... AND NOW, LET'S MAKE MONEY TOGETHER
Shalom,
David
I send this letter to the following people, sure they will post it To make us identified (a little!!!!), I add their login/password in LIZ program
So get out of opentrade !:rant:
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Source:
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Itrade4u-wwwitrade4ub-t126898.html&view=findpost&p=4214750#entry4214750--------------------
FROM THE INVEX GROUP"Dear Invex Ltd. Players,
This is a long message and will be the last news you will hear from us... until we open our next HYIP
We want, kindly, recommend you stop losing your time by looking after us. Anyway, for the cyber detectives, here is how we worked.
1- The basis is having 100% false ID documents. For $200 you get a really nice looking pack of documents, even nicer than legal ones
2- We rented a nice apartment with fast internet in a nice city near the sea, with false documents. We then bought a new desktop computer and a new laptop, installed some fresh programs.
3- We opened a bank account with false documents, put some cash on the account, and got a nice true debit card.
4- We opened e-gold accounts and funded them from the bank account above.
5- A bit later we opened e-bullion accounts, funded by... you, idiots who "invested"
OK? Now we have e-gold, internet, a place to sleep, eat etc, all without possibility to track us. A major question was "Must we open a real company". We decided that NO, as people are so stupid that they believe all what they read. And you know what? It is true Invex Ltd. and Lomax Group Corp. are pure fantasy
Okay, let's go to work now!
1- Opening a domain name and booking a server at the katzglobal scammers' best place, paying with e-gold.
2- Later, booking a dedicated server and paying with... the debit card coming from the bank account above
3- Renting Prolexic, and paying them by bank transfers from.... an e-gold exchanger The gold came from YOU idiots who "invested" !
To specialists who want to track us by the IP addresses, we kindly recommend you to use Google and look at JAP, Freenet, I2P, TORR, etc.
You will understand that our IP come from anywhere in the world, beeing chained between servers who cannot track them.
And even if so, the last IP address, the place where we lived, was this nice appartment near the sea, that we left some weeks ago Oh, the computers were given to a charity, after the hard disks were physically deleted
Other pros say "Let's track the money"! Great idea, but don't forget that even the ******* muslim terrorists cannot be tracked by the special services
How did we withdraw all your nice donations? That's easy, thanks to mygcard who supplied us hundreds of anonymous debit cards that our friedns and us used in various countries! Alain Vignard from mygcard received $20.000 cash in hands for helping us to find the ATM with no "$800/day limits", and telling us how to use the cards at the best. Well, Alain tried to scam us later, but that is another story
We also used bank transfers from the best exchangers, who have no problem at all sending $100,000 or $200,000 every 3 days to bank accounts in Panama, the BVI, etc Nice offshore places outside the EU and the US Track the money there, dear friends!
Oh, about exchangers, we worked with one of them from Australia, and where a bit afraid at the beginning, as he wrote on his website that he "verifies ALL data" from his clients. LOL ! His fee is 2%, we kindly offered him 2% more "to preserve our privacy" Look at our dialogue by email:
- HIM: 2% more is a good offer, but is your gold clean? We don't want to work with scammers.
- US: Of course, what are you thinking? We are honest businessmen and just want to keep a low profile.
- HIM: OK, i can see you are not scammers, just send me the gold and 4% fee instead of the regular 2%.
Thank you mister G. ))
As I am in a very good mood, I will also explain you something: Most of the biggest HYIP are run by us, a professional team. And when other scammers try to enter our market, BING! If they are interesting people we try to buy them, if not DDOS attacks make them shutdown To be sure our rating is the best one, we also pay the admins of a few monitoring programs, including the biggest and "most reliable" (LOOOOL) one!
Our business is to make money. We use 20% of the money we get to help poor and disabled people around each of us, 20% other is given to some "political" associations that fight against ISLAM (Hey guys from the Emirates, Bahrein, Kuwait, etc etc, did you read this? THANK YOU , and the balance is for us.
We have currently a dozen of HYIP running, are going to close some of them, and of course to open new ones! We are working like this since a few years, and all is working fine!
But you know, it IS possible to make profit from HYIP: Just do it QUICKLY! Look: teamaaronshara@bellsouth.net made $6,580 profit with us, including the commissions they got by sending YOU IDIOTS, to Invex. These people are really scumbags: They are making profit by making you lose!
As a clever guy told in some forum, "there were no guarantees, so no need to cry". YEP! We NEVER gave any guarantee to ANYBODY (unless Titanium plans, and you should notice that THESE guys do NOT cry on your forum, try to guess why...!), we even recommended those who ask for guarantees to go to their local bank They didn't? THEIR CHOICE!
When reading your forum and others, we really laugh! So, most of you were already scammed by other HYIP? By our HYIP maybe Anyway, it seems that you don't understand what a teenager is able to understand! So, you continue to "invest" here and there, and that is good... FOR US! For you, I am not sure When I see a GREAT SPECIALIST, the "Andrewunknown", proudly saying that he lost $40,000 into Invex but that he will recover from other HYIP, WE ARE LAUGHING, FALLING FROM OUR CHAIRS )))) Moreover in his list of "no ponzi", LOL, some of them are from us ))))
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Another message from them (regarding INVEX):
- liquidteq_@_gmail.com threatened us to send "the FBI and the CIA against us" ) better you keep your energy to work and recover your $600 ONLY that you sent us, than saying such BS )))
- "AROBASE", "LUCIEN", "IGOR": YOU will be refunded partially, we contacted you some hours ago.
- "vanderschalk-group" is a clever guy: He made about $45k profit from Invex
- "ANATOLI" is the best one: he made about $170k profit from Invex, even with what we kept from him when we closed!
- lewisfargo, caro, anhvn06, ydna, janhkok, profitondemand, HIPsyD, promax, brewmanau, adtype13sg, , Johnnyslide, etc etc are also in big profit (Between $10k and $50k) from Invex.
Feel free to find and contact them to ask to share ))
Well that's all, folks! We are anyway in touch with a few of you through other HYIP, under other names of course! Good luck
Shalom!
Renaud, Kathy, Oliver, David.
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