I'm quitting from the Internet
Monday, 26. October 2009, 22:08:57
Enough is enough... Something is wrong with ... something! Neither Opera nor Firefox works properly. May be I should resign from Internet and quit completely all these Internet things...
Opera is a cool browser. Unfortunately, it's the only browser I can use. Even if Opera was to render pages somewhat wrong, I would use Opera; it's got all features I can't live without. Like what? Mouse gestures, trash bin and browser.js (may be more but these are "must" - speed dial added afterwards and it isn't vital since Cmd+1 takes the same time as typing news.bbc.co.uk into the address bar).
Houston, we've got a (big) problem
Opera crashes without me touching anything. It just waits at the background and it keep crashing. I am coding in Xcode and suddenly I see a message box saying Opera has crashed.
Fair enough, browser is a complicated application and may crash from time to time, because most web pages suck (except google.com).
Because I got totally pissed off to these crashes (like 7 times within 2 hours) I tried Safari. Safari works fine, but I think it doesn't qualify as a web browser because it doesn't have enough features to be one. Instead of Safari, I've installed Firefox + some add-ons (you know, "bare" Firefox is completely useless - I mean, I can't imagine Firefox without add-ons - it wouldn't make it even IE6 users' desktops).
Whatever... It, very quickly, turned out that Firefox couldn't cope with my browsing speed and/or sites either and crashed even before starting and I was like "dude! I might have been damned or something".
I am writing this from my mobile (Samsung Omnia i800; Opera Mobile 9.7 for Windows Mobile 6.0).
Not as an Opera developer, but I think Firefox is in bigger trouble
Firefox refuses to start. Because it has found some add-ons cause trouble. I told it to fix those things. This is my 5th attempt but I still see Firefox manages to mess up my mouse cursor (adding a Firefox icon) but still couldn't start.
As a noob, what would I do? Well, I'd drop it into trash. But... that isn't the answer, because Safari sucks more. So as a noob about Firefox but as a user of Opera, I'd go back to Opera... And that's what I will do soon.
Add-ons are bad. I never have heard people complaining Opera doesn't startup. But here is a live example; Firefox 3.5.3 (or whatever) doesn't start probably because some add-on isn't compatible - and moreover, a browser, which should have a comprehensive add-on architecture, couldn't really cope with edge-cases.
(It seems like Finder is frozen as well... I think I will grep entire harddisk about firefox and remove all references)
WIDGETIZE
Ice Ardor # 27. October 2009, 07:50
Charles Schloss # 27. October 2009, 12:38
Ismail # 27. October 2009, 14:51
Chas4; I am sure there is a problem with Flash (on Mac, at least). But what's the problem with Firefox? It doesn't even start, although I cleared all settings I could find.
Firefox is more confusing. It shows a Firefox icon next to regular mouse cursor (arrow). But does nothing. I should have got a core dump or strace.
How does it manage to freeze the Finder? Do these guys use some sort of internal hack and acquire a system-wide mutex and (could) not release it? Oh well, mobile browser rules!
Charles Schloss # 27. October 2009, 15:53
WolvenSpectre # 28. October 2009, 01:59
I put this all down to "The New Browser War" which had the last 2 versions of Firefox and Opera 10 Released way prematurely. It also saw Chrome/Chromium Browsers make everyone more panicked because it got the New Shiny/Google Product Bump. That and this whole JavaScript Engine War has had everyone taking resources on basic operatability and stabilty away from developement.
Oh and ditto on the bare bones of Firefox unextended.
Ankur # 29. October 2009, 21:51