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Hi Planet,

I don't read, or understand Chinese to begin with, and this is very important smile

Recently I came across a very curious application and it fascinated me so that I decided to share my experience with you guys. Sorry for extra long post, but I'm just too excited not to show you this!

This post should especially be interesting to those who may be involved with Office type applications (like Koffice, or OpenOffice)

*NOTE: This post is NOT meant to request, or imply a request of any features, and/or design changes to any existing/future application(s), and is simply, and solely to inform.

The application, or should I say a set of applications, I got so fascinated with, is in a nutshell an OpenOffice derivative, created by a Chinese company responsible for RedFlag Linux distro. The application suite is called: RedOffice and you can get an experimental Linux version here: http://202.10.78.132/download/RO45StandardForLinuxPre.tar !!!Beware!!! the application is a beta, and is not really free (though I can't be too sure as I don't read Chinese).

So - you ask - what's so great about it then?
Well - I answer - the best thing about it is it's unique User Interface!

Remember how in the beginning of this post I mentioned not reading, or understanding Chinese? If you don't go back to the beginning and check, because even though I don't I was able to create great looking documents, and modify existing ones within 5 minutes after I launched the application.
How - you ask?
Let me demonstrate:
Figure 1

To view a larger version simply right-click the image and choose "View Image"

Notice anything different form the standard OpenOffice interface? Don't know about you, but this actually reminds me of a certain other office project currently in development...
Lets review the screen-shot.
The main feature here is the sidebar containing a set of buttons in the top part of it, and a selector field occupying the rest of the sidebar's space. When you click a button on the top, the bottom part changes to present you with relevant options.
This is what you see once you start the writer-like application. By default the first (top-right) button is selected, and it happens to be the template gallery. Click on any template and a new document will be created from it.

Figure 2

To view a larger version simply right-click the image and choose "View Image"

Once you click on the second button(top-right) you will be presented with a rather interesting invention - page insert. Basically the bottom part becomes a gallery of available pages sorted by category. Once you click one one of those a page will be inserted into your document shifting the page you currently are at down. This feature could be great for cover page, colorful inserts, and in overlat to make a document you are writing a little more colorful.

Figure 3

To view a larger version simply right-click the image and choose "View Image"

The third button (from top-right) will reveal page and document formatting. Here you can choose and change (numbers from 1 to 10):
  1. Page/Document paper size
  2. Page direction (horizontal/vertical)
  3. Page padding and margins
  4. Background color (a color palette appears and page color changes in real time when you hover over the colors, while clicking on a color confirms your choice)
  5. Columns and text flow
  6. Page headers (a gallery of different header formats shows up)
  7. Page footers (a gallery of different header formats shows up)
  8. Page splits and page management (you can arrange and re-arrange your pages there)
  9. Special footers like page numeration, and document/chapter title in your footer (not sure why this one is separated from #7
  10. Strange feature which allows you number lines in your document, just like line numbering in Kate. I don't know what this is used for.


Figure 4

To view a larger version simply right-click the image and choose "View Image"

This button shows table settings and insertion. This one is self explanatory I think. The only remark I would like to add is that table changes formatting when you hover over templates located on the very bottom of the sidebar, and single click confirms the choice.

Figure 5

To view a larger version simply right-click the image and choose "View Image"

This is image and clip-art gallery. If you add an image, or click on already added one you will also see the image controls and manipulation options there. An interesting fact I noticed is that once you add your own image, or select one form the list it will automatically be added to the top category (not sure what it's called since I don't read the language).

Figure 6

To view a larger version simply right-click the image and choose "View Image"

This button switches to a shape insertion and manipulation panel. There is nothing to explain here I think.

Figure 7

To view a larger version simply right-click the image and choose "View Image"

This one lets you add, or edit a diagram.

Figure 8

To view a larger version simply right-click the image and choose "View Image"

This one is a cool thing! It's a styles palette. In my screen-shot I named it "Heading gallery", but I was wrong. In the reality those aren't just headings they are recently used text styles (which includes headings, paragraphs, etc.) Once you hover over any of those your text will automatically change to show you how it looks like. To apply the style you have to click on the button in the gallery.

Figure 9

To view a larger version simply right-click the image and choose "View Image"

This button is awesome. It's all about tables of content. Just click on any of those and a table of content will be auto generated and inserted into your document. Click on any other one and it will change to reflect your choice of design.

Figure 10

To view a larger version simply right-click the image and choose "View Image"

This button has to do with document history, revisions and security. One of those buttons opens a new panel on the bottom of the screen which lists all the changes and notes. Neat stuff.

Figure 11

To view a larger version simply right-click the image and choose "View Image"

Finally the last button shows Preferences and settings list. Everything you would usually have to look for digging through endless drop-downs from menubar, is located here - plain and simple. And did I mention each button here brings up a pop-up on hover which (I guess) explains you a little more about what it does? smile

Figure 12

To view a larger version simply right-click the image and choose "View Image"

And finally general overview of the screen.
The big red button on the top-left bring down a MS-Office-like menu (which I'm not a big fan of) which houses import/export, loading, saving, and document history.
Right next to it is a small toolbar with:
  1. New
  2. Open
  3. Save
  4. Print
  5. (prepare yourself) Get help (opens a chat window where you can ask questions if you have any)
  6. this button shows a drop-down where you can choose what other components you would like to see on this toolbar.

The second (and only) toolbar houses standard, general formatting options like those in word-pad-like apps. I don't think I'm ought to explain what it does.
Finally the status bar has Full screen control button (it switches the document into presentation-like mode), page view options (single page, contiguous page view, side-by-side view, etc), and zoom settings (clicking on that 100% will bring up a pop-up letting you choose the zoom form predefined list)

And that's all folks. smile
And to think of it, I have just described you an entire document writer application! There is nothing else there.
Oh, and calc, and presenter equivalents aren't much different. They are just as easy and user friendly, even if you don't know the language.

The only regret I have is that this great app will probably never be released in any other language, but Chinese. So it's back to old, user unfriendly solutions sad

*NOTE: This post is NOT meant to request, or imply a request of any features, and/or design changes to any existing/future application(s), and is simply, and solely to inform.

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Comments

Anonymous Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:00:59 PM

mintlars writes: Actually, I think this should be a request. It looks really good and simple. Roumor has it that openoffice are considering a ribbon-like interface. This looks like a much better alternative. About the licensing of the app, I don't think it really is a problem since I don't think China has signed the TRIPS-agreement, hence all the pirated products there, but I'm not too sure though.

Anonymous Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:49:23 PM

L4Linux writes: "*NOTE: This post is NOT meant to request, or imply a request of any features, and/or design changes to any existing/future application(s), and is simply, and solely to inform." Don't worry, we won't "bash" you. I think that this GUI is easier to be implemented in Chinese because the menu & icon names are a few ideograms short and look compact and tidy, whereas in English they are much longer and therefor look congested and bloated.

Anonymous Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:15:02 AM

Anonymous writes: you know there is an english translated site for the software? http://www.redoffice.com/?class=sy There is a free personal edition of the software.

Anonymous Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:53:43 AM

Burke writes: For me, some parts look like a vertical ribbon interface. However, compared to the current OOorg this is a giant leap forward in usability terms. Also note the icons in the windeco. This is something the KDE people dream of, at the moment.

Anonymous Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:57:39 AM

Anonymous writes: The "free trial" button on the English website reads "free forever" in the Chinese version.

Anonymous Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:59:00 AM

pns writes: If we use plasma to to handle menu + toolbar in all apps this can be implemented globally or like MS Office or like Mac OS top menu bar etc. I really wish there is a capability to do this just like KDE did for notification area. This can be used by amaroK like application to insert volume bar, progress bar etc right in the menu.

Anonymous Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:45:34 AM

Anonymous writes: http://static.sftcdn.net/fr/scrn/65000/65559/3_Symphony_B3_02.jpg Side panel for IBM openoffice branch too.

Anonymous Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:46:53 AM

drake writes: I think it's a great design. It's improve and extend some idea you have in KOffice 2.0 If there is some KOffice developer around, guy I think you have a new model to follow (just please don't go to far.... menu are still very useful, ribbon are too limited and inconsistent).

Anonymous Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:08:45 AM

omlx writes: I think you want like this : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Prototyping

Anonymous Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:42:55 AM

Tommy.S writes: I saw that about year ago and I liked it a lot. It followed same direction what even IBM Lotus (Symphony) did take as well. When I saw first time KOffice 2 I felt it was correct direction. Even that I have used daily the MS Office 2007 since release, I can not get the ribbon to be as powerfull as the old, currently even OOo used toolbar. Ribbon is not easy when it comes to poweruse. You can modify toolbar easy way (on ribbon you need XML editor tool from MS) and you get lots of more functions to toolbar to be shown at once than with Ribbon. Why I should go trough menus when I have all nicely on two row panel? Why I should switch ribbon menus (Ribbon is just a menu from other software what MS copied to own Office, not their invention at all) to get what I want, if I could have all functions shown at once? The Ribbon offers only two things. 1. sane default ones, and 2. order to build the document. First you start on the first menu, then you go to second and finally you are on the last menu and your document is ready. Of course you can always skip between menus to edit document and add there stuff but it just slows down. But when checkin for older menu+toolbar function, it really is faster. If you know what you need, you can place all the functions to own groups on the toolbar as well. You get all needed functions to correct steps so you achieve the same good sides of Ribbon, but just much faster and cleaner way. The sidepanel is altough great thing because we can have grouping, add a toolbox if we select specific tool and have the options for it shown on right on. Fast and simple. And when joined with the normal toolbar, it is even faster and better than Ribbon. But one thing what really IS better on ribbon, is the preview feature. But it was left halfway implented. Not all functions offer preview when hovering options but you actually need to click and open again the tool to try other. And what comes to usability. The Ribbon IS worse. Think what you actually see on the menu. First, you have three different kind buttons on menu. You have big Icon + Text what fills whole vertical space. Then you have Text-only functions. And then you have small icons-only functions. You have one, two and three row buttons. All mixed together. Text goes on different lines and your eyes can not read straight line of text of functions what you are searching. You can not see all the needed icons right away if you are searching something. You need to change the menu to see needed icons (or TEXT-only!). (But if you do it on correct steps from left to right, you do not need, but that is not case always). When you change the window side, the usage comes much harder. Office 2007 was designed for fullscreen use or the correct size what shows all menubuttons. And then you have on the menu the oldkind dropboxes what has no preview. You have pop-up windows for tool settings. It is a real mess what is just got nice outfit. And many likes it because you actually see less buttons than earlier. It is like comparing Konqueror on KDE 3.5 and Konqueror on KDE 4.3. The default buttons are limited and you feel the browser is much better to use. But power user who use konqueror as filemanager as well, soon notice that there is not all buttons what is needed, so they must be added. MS did nice hattrick. Change radically the UI, make it look simpler and add shiny eyecandy effects and animations. Then almost everyone loves it because it is change for the old ugly one what has small icons. For normal user the MS Office 2007 is easier to use because user can not see features what he does not need. It is like comparing KWrite and OOo by their features. Of course KWrite is easier because you can just type text and save it. Open older and edit files and print it. But it is so much limited in the use than OOo. And while MS did nicely hide buttons to new kind menu, it is still as complex, only the outlook fools.

Anonymous Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:55:50 AM

Johannes writes: Thanks for this review! It's more complete indeed that the one I wrote more than one year ago: http://www.johannes-eva.net/index.php?page=redoffice Unfortunately, the OOo Renaissance-Team refuses to consider developing a vertical UI. There were some proposals in this deirection, including mine: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Proposal_by_Johannes_Eva in early phases of OOo Renaissance. These were not taken in consideration. If you didn't do it alrealy, you could join the OOo UI mailing lists to ask them to consider a vertical UI for Renaissance! Sincerely, Johannes

Anonymous Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:08:23 AM

Quique writes: OpenOffice.org is LGPL. If RedOffice is a derivative of OOo, it should be released under the LGPL, too.

Anonymous Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:14:19 PM

Anonymous writes: Yep, do they keep the license? They should at least offer a patch for their changed parts in OO (maybe the interface is a seperate binary...)

Anonymous Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:43:25 PM

Thomas Zander writes: As a core developer on KOffice I got the strong feeling of deja vu. A lot of our paper design plans have a strong similarity to this, I recognize the 'toolbox' at the top left and the per-tool area below that as "Tool-Options" in KOffice2. Given that KOffice2 is still in the "make it just work" phase and there is little to no polish being applied to much of the functionality I think there will be a good chance to use these ideas and improve upon them. In KOffice a big part of the power comes from the ability for 3rd party developers to write new widget or new items in the toolbox and dynamically let them appear. So this setup you show is easy to do in KOffice2, but I think its a great base to continue exploring from. Not a destination.

Anonymous Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:15:04 PM

Anonymous writes: It looks good, but it makes just the same mistake as MS Office and other Suites: it doesnt allows you too choose how to set up panels/sidebars (I guess). Thats why I like KOffice, I can do it my way... @Thomas Zander & KOffice team Keep up the good work!

Anonymous Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:58:59 PM

Anonymous writes: Hey, I think the Apple iWork programs use a pretty similar style of interface... except the controls are not docked (something I personally find annoying about the Apple product).

Anonymous Thursday, October 29, 2009 12:00:17 AM

Anonymous writes: Hey, I think the Apple iWork programs use a pretty similar style of interface... except the controls are not docked (something I personally find annoying about the Apple product).

Anonymous Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:58:26 AM

Anonymous writes: I personally tend to favour SSuite Office’s free office suites. Their software also don’t need to run on Java or .NET, like so many open source office suites, so it makes their software very small and efficient. http://www.ssuitesoft.com

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