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DivX plugin phoning home?

DivX, Inc recently published a DivX browser plugin, called DivX Web Player.

After installing that plugin I noticed some strange requests when visiting a site embedding DivX files. Operas status bar showed that it tried to connect to "hints.netflame.cc". So I double checked in Firefox and Proxomitrons log window and found this:

+++GET 17557+++
GET /service/hint?fceid=pluginlaunchwin&host=www.divx.com HTTP/1.1
Host: hints.netflame.cc
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.2; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20051220 Firefox/1.6a1
Accept: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive

+++RESP 17557+++
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Content-Type: image/gif
Content-Length: 34
Expires: 0
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:34:11 GMT
Server: Apache Tomcat/4.1.30 (HTTP/1.1 Connector)
FcHSHash: 1637308464
Cache-Control: private,no-cache,must-revalidate
+++CLOSE 17557+++

So the plugin makes the browser connect to [url]http://hints.netflame.cc/service/hint?fceid=pluginlaunchwin&host=www.divx.com which sends a 1x1px gif.

netflame.cc is registered to
        Digital River
        Brian Eitrem  ********@digitalriver.com)
        9625 West 76th Street Suite 150 
        Eden Prairie, MN  55344
        US
        952-253-1234

I couldn't figure out how that site is related to DivX, but all this doesn't look very trustworthy.

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Comments

roy204 22. February 2006, 18:45

Hey there,

This is roy204 from DivX,Inc - main developper of the DivX Web Player.

This is just an anonymous ping to fireclick (a simple counter system owned by Digital River indeed) that we use to count how many time our plugin is used everyday.

It's not spying on anything as nothing is recorded at all. It's just a number being incremented. We will actually remove this ping in the future. For now it helps us see how this product is adopted and prioritize our next efforts.

DivX doesn't do spyware :wink: You can also read about this ping in the license agreement if you're curious.

Cheers.

larskl 22. February 2006, 19:06

You can also read about this ping in the license agreement if you're curious.



The license agreement, as usual, was written by lawyers for layers. No normal person would interpret these lines as the software pinging a rather dubious site (as it doesn't have any information about what it is doing).

Software should ask the user before phoning home in any way, even if it's just a ping. And the user should be able to disable that!

roy204 23. February 2006, 12:51

Thanks larskl that's good input.

I agree with you that it should be off by default and possible to disable it. I will work on something like that for a future update. These are temporary. Thanks!

Vojvoda 10. May 2006, 13:00

Web Player is not working in Opera 9 (Build 8367)!!! It just trys to connect to "hints.netflame.cc/service/hint?fceid=pluginlaunchwin&host=www.divx.com" and nothing else. Web Player just says "Connecting - Detecting format" and that lasts forever. Web Player works great in FireFox and IE. I do not care if Web Player will connect to some other site, I just want it to work in Opera 9.

qicai02 13. June 2006, 18:47

Thanks

BankiPolskie 15. July 2006, 10:25

Cool, many Thanks :smile:

Medium 16. October 2006, 22:58

Very interesting commentary! You have the total rightness writing about it. :yes:

AJordan 17. January 2007, 14:16

Cool DivX plugin Lars, I just found it and I'm downloading it right now.
Thanks.

Tcube 27. September 2007, 07:40

Follow up on sept. 2007

"This is roy204 from DivX,Inc - main developper of the DivX Web Player."

... agree with you that it should be off by default and possible to disable it. I will work on something like that for a future update. These are temporary. Thanks!

By roy204, # 23. February 2006, 12:51:16"


yeah yeah .... still connecting a year later ... kiss my ass good old boy Roy.

TCube

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