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The Norway Explosions
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/22/blast-rips-through-norways-capital-injuries-reported/?hpt=T1TERROR IN NORWAY
Bombing, shooting rampage in Norway
A deadly bomb blast rocks government buildings in the center of Norway's capital, Oslo, shortly before a gunman dressed as a police officer opens fire at a political youth camp on a nearby island.
It is terrible what happened today in Oslo, I couldn't find a topic so I created one. Feel free to share your thoughts, emotions or prayers regarding today's attack6. September 2011, 05:58:35 (edited)
This means that you cannot trust anything that he writes or says. Not anything. Some of it will actually be true, but you can never take his word for it.
"Cultural Christian" sounds like a rather accurate description. Not only of Breivik, but of many other Scandinavians, most of whom are non-psychopaths and non-murderous. Not unlike the way that many atheistic Jews still regard themselves as Jews because they identify with the cultural heritage.
6. September 2011, 08:38:03 (edited)
Originally posted by troels:
The big problem with getting a realistic view of Breivik is, that he is very likely a psychopath.
This means that you cannot trust anything that he writes or says. Not anything. Some of it will actually be true, but you can never take his word for it.
"Cultural Christian" sounds like a rather accurate description. Not only of Breivik, but of many other Scandinavians, most of whom are non-psychopaths and non-murderous. Not unlike the way that many atheistic Jews still regard themselves as Jews because they identify with the cultural heritage.
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No, sir; I have to disagree: I would that what you say is true… But the BIG problem is that those who lay claim to the criterion of "realistic views" quite some time ago rejected the category of psychopathy; hence, Breivik's actions can and will be considered not just rational but sane by some, given his rationalizations. And that is the crux of the problem that vexes me.
Is there nothing left that is not understandable, forgivable, acceptable — given the circumstances, the provocation, the rationale?
"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
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"I have heard it remarked that men are not to be reasoned out of an opinion they have not reasoned themselves into." Fisher Ames
The concepts of understandable, forgivable, acceptable are separate. Few would consider his views acceptable, though more than you would think, and many fewer yet his actions. Understanding his views and actions would, for most people, not lead to accepting them. Know yourself and know your enemy are old dicta, knowing the rest of the world is not harmful either. Forgiveness is mostly in the mind of the forgiver, who would also be the main benefactor.
Many (in Norway that would number in the low hundreds) have expressed violent fantasies online, against Muslims or the Labour Party, but almost none have acted on it (there was a racist murder by a neo-nazi gang a decade earlier, the aftermath of which all but annihilated the violent extreme right in Norway, and some fairly pathetic attempts at terrorism). The killer will be taken care of by the justice system, and pose little threat. The question is how big threat future like-minded actors would be. I would think it is rather low. Extremists of any kind are a fractious lot, and the right-wing ones more than most, they have the aggression, they may have the motivation, but rarely the skill, organisation, and money.
Bombing and shooting is not exactly innovative, but there is one aspect of Breivik that is cause for concern. Like bin Laden before him he argued for not attacking the enemy, but the enemy's supporters. Whoever heeds that message is likely to do more damage.
Someone said he doesn't believe government would spend that much money to frame a case on me. He said a bullet would be much efficient for them.
It's true. Feds did prepared such economic way for me. The most drammatic one was on 1/15/1999 in a form of "bank robbery". The plot was interrupted by a good samaritan which led to the death of the robber (alleged asset of the Feds). Police captain died hours later after his squad killed the robber. (alleged revenge from the Feds) (see "402. Bank robbery in San Francisco (1) (4/25/06) ", #404, #561, #562))
Another shooting death plot took place on 4/13/2006. (see "400. Bank robbery created for "mis-shooting" (4/20/06)")
The third attempt was in June 2008.( see "559. Plan to murder in the name of "Bank robbery" (7/19/08)")
I feel the similar danger recently. I stay home when it's bank's business hour to avoid a "bank robbery" murder. Then someone suggests that:
"Dwaine
Senior Member 07-24-2011, 06:50 PM
Mr.Sung would you be interested in running for president.I am sure you would do a better job than those that have been in office for the last 11 years."
"CinderAsh Senior Member 08-05-2011, 11:32 AM
You have the intelligence. Presumably some answers. Gain some heart and run as a representative for government yourself."
http://www.true2ourselves.com/forum/christianity-politics/6436-new-debt-ceiling-deal.html
My communication in the Internet are scrutinized by the Feds. They used to call other members of the forum to intimidate them in the name of "investigation". People scared. They either leave the forum or remain silent. Occasionally, the agents and their followers dialogue with me with smear and ridicules such like "mental problem", "Schzopherenic"..... Suddenly, some people suggest "running for president", "Start in your local area. Be seen and heard.". What's your think?
Criminal style from the assassination of JFK and M.L.King to anthrax letters to Senators and Washington D.C. sniper shooting spree, has its own way. It reminds me of the shooting case that led to the death of Fedral judge Roll and wounding the representative Giffords. The Feds just want to arrange another one like Arizona shooting case. I also worry the attempt of murder with gaspipe exploision.
686. Camp Utoya and Camp Casey (9/15/2011)
The tyrant of the NWO hate peace loving people that much that they put them as hitting target in their plot. We saw it in Norway killing (7/22/2011) and Hurricane Katrina event. (9/24/2005, a failed plot) The 7/7 London bombing was created to justify a dirty bomb attack on an anti-war gathering in US on 9/24.
With my own experience, I found the Feds had framed a case on me. The action date was 9/24/2005. (see detail in #342 and #343) Under my constant pre-warning, the plot went soured.
Quote, "342. Homeowner Association again (9/12/05)
A notice from H.A. forced a new requirement to clean the back yard before 11/1.
City offers a free dumping in time on 9/24.
I don't think it was a coincidence. Feds arranged me to do the dumping work on 9/24. I believe they plan a framed case on that day.
343. Killing two birds by one stone (9/17/05)
if the framed case goes on successfully, on 9/24 there will be a big terror attack in US to distract. "
9/24/2005 also was a day significant with: the landing day of Hurricane Rita and a big anti-war protest in Washington DC.
In early August 2005, Cindy Sheehan had set up a protest camp - Camp Casey (in memory of her dead son Casey) at Bush's ranch in Crawford, Tex.. She left there on 8/30 for a big protest planned on 9/24 in Washington. Her anti-war bus trip hadn't become a news issue. Why? It was distracted by Hurricane Katrina.
On 8/29, Hurricane Katrina drowned New Orlean. News of Katrina also drowned the news of Sheehan's anti-war bus trip. Following Sheehans north bound bus trip, another hurricane Ophelia in parallel way drew the eye balls of public. Three weeks later hurricane Rita which was blew up by the media as stronger than Katrina landed on Texas same day (9/24) the peace demonstration took place in DC. Today, media still talked about Katrina sometimes. Rare people knew there was a big anti-war protest in Washington at the same time. This was how an anti-war movement was distracted by Pentagon's climate alteration weapon.
On 9/17/2005, I warned that a terror attack would happen on 9/24 if a framed case on me would have gone through. I quote the article here: "Have you ever noticed that there will be a big anti-war protest on 9/24? Is that a coincidence? No, it's not. We know FBI infiltrate almost every organization. It is said the leadership of US Communist Party is controlled by FBI. Without the financial aid from FBI, US Communist Party can't survive. So it's natural that the leadership of anti-war movement are infiltrated by FBI too. Is 9/24 a particular day? No. Why it is selected for demonstration? Because Feds arranges a big terror attack on that day. It will not only distract the public attention from a framed case, but also will humiliate the anti-war movement to prove Bush is political correct."
If the framed case had been successful, then Camp Casey would have become Camp Utoya.
http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=bank+robbery+san+francisco+1/15/1999&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Do you have any newspaper records of these 'bank robberies'?
Originally posted by jax:
Bombing and shooting is not exactly innovative, but there is one aspect of Breivik that is cause for concern. Like bin Laden before him he argued for not attacking the enemy, but the enemy's supporters. Whoever heeds that message is likely to do more damage.
He has done more than that. Weren't the victims members of one of the main political party youth? With the massacre he stroked right at the deep of his "enemies" hearts by killing their children and at the same time he wanted to physically eliminate an entire generation of next to be leadership.
I don't see him as a lunatic but rather as a very dangerous man. So dangerous that only a few like him would be enough to change everything.
This one thinks, get rid of him.
Originally posted by johnnysaucepn:
Just how many times have you cut and pasted this same content?
http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=bank+robbery+san+francisco+1/15/1999&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Do you have any newspaper records of these 'bank robberies'?
Kat is a spammer, amongst other things. He's crazy as a tree full of owls too.
We are supposed to believe that the Fed has power to make hurricanes hit certain cities, that they can generate earthquakes, make tornadoes and I don't know what all else--- but they can't stop Katsung from posting. Uh, huh, right!!!!
A government that would be evil enough to kill several thousand of its own citizens to have cause to go to war, and has power to make weather and earthquakes--- and they're not able to stop Kat. OK, Kat, whatever.
Incidentally, full disclosure time: Kat has in the past accused me of being a paid government flunky, planted here to make his life miserable. I am not now, and never have been, a government operative. In fact, the government has no idea that I'm writing this stuff until they read it, the same as everybody else. No government type has at any time approached me concerning these things. Just to make this clear.
when I'm alone, I will look at them
shocked and just whisper quietly
"You can see me?"
Originally posted by mjmsprt40:
Incidentally, full disclosure time: Kat has in the past accused me of being a paid government flunky, planted here to make his life miserable. I am not now, and never have been, a government operative. In fact, the government has no idea that I'm writing this stuff until they read it, the same as everybody else. No government type has at any time approached me concerning these things. Just to make this clear.
It's always dicey, trying to renegotiate remuneration from shadow organizations, mjm… I wish you luck!
"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
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"I have heard it remarked that men are not to be reasoned out of an opinion they have not reasoned themselves into." Fisher Ames
Originally posted by mjmsprt40:
Incidentally, full disclosure time: Kat has in the past accused me of being a paid government flunky, planted here to make his life miserable. I am not now, and never have been, a government operative.
That's exactly what an undercover government agent would say
(sorry, couldn't resist)
Otherwise, the feds must make the three stooges look competent since they still didn't manage to arrest him and ship him off to Guantanamo Bay.
FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
Still, think of the sci-fi potential of government machines that could make weather and cause earthquakes--- all geared towards making one citizen's life a living hell. Something on the order of the old "The Prisoner" series comes to mind.
when I'm alone, I will look at them
shocked and just whisper quietly
"You can see me?"
Originally posted by mjmsprt40:
Still, think of the sci-fi potential of government of machines that could make weather and cause earthquakes--- all geared towards making one citizen's life a living hell.
( two letters added... )
Watched The Matrix lately?
FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
In big plot, the Feds used to organize natural disaster to help their plan.
In 7/22/2011 plot, (Signaled with Norway terror attack. The main target was New York, US) they arranged a historical heat in New York City that day. The purpose was to keep people from streets, (stay in air-conditioned room) because they organized a nuclear bomb attack. They evacuated the people in advance to avoid large casualty. This meant less compensation demand the government will face later. The same tactic they had applied on New York in winter time plot. (big snow storm) and August 2011 plot. (signaled with Hurricane Irene)
In 9/24/2005 plot, (signaled with Hurricane Katrina and Hurricane Rita) Three hurricanes were used to distract public notice on an anti-war bus-trip led by Cindy Sheehan. The main target was the protest crowd in Washington DC on 9/24. I think the Feds had originally prepared a dirty bomb attack on them.
In famous 9/11/2001 terror attack, seldom people knew that there was also a hurricane headed to NewYork. That was Hurricane Erin.
Hurricane Erin went in a strange route. It moved slowly in early September close to New York. On 9/11, it was in the nearest point to New York of its way. After the planes hit the WTC, Erine made a 90 degree turn and left New York.
I think Hurricane Erine was used as a cover up force for 911 plot. The Boeing planes that hit the WTC were taken over by the drone pilot system in their last movement. (The command center was in WTC 7 which was destroyed several hours later.) If the plane missing its target that meant the plot went failed, Hurricane Erin would have headed to New York to distract public attention. The hijacked plane would have been shoot down but reported by news that it was lost in hurricane. Military action always takes everything in consideration in advance.
Media and government beat the drum on Hurricane Irene (2011) because it was used as main force to evacuate people in their plan. Hurricane Erin (2001) was neglected because it was used as a spare force for the plot. Rare news talk about it because the news space was reserved for the main plot - WTC collapse. They need a shock and awe effect.
Here is the url of the route chart of Hurricane Erin of 2001:
9/11 Weather Anomalies and Field Effects
by Judy Wood
This page last updated, May 19, 2008
http://drjudywood.com/articles/erin/erin1.html
688. Anti-terror drill - bizarre coincidence (9/29/2011)
In big plot, the Feds used to organize a similar exercise too, to assure its success.
In 7/22/2011 Norway terror attack:
Norwegian Police Confirm Drill Identical to Breivik’s Attack
• Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com August 26, 2011
The Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten reports today police sources have confirmed that hours before Anders Behring Breivik launched his deadly attack at a political summer camp on Utøya island on July 22, police had conducted a drill for a “practically identical scenario.”
“Sources within the top level management of the police in Oslo have confirmed to Aftenposten that the drill finished at 15:00 that same Friday,” the newspaper reports. “All of the officers from the anti-terror unit that later took part at the bombsite at the government buildings and went out to Utøya to apprehend Anders Behring Breivik had been training on the exact same scenario earlier the same day and in the days preceding,” writes Andreas Bakke Foss.
The bomb attributed to Breivik went off only 26 minutes after the anti-terror drill finished, according to officials.
http://www.infowars.com/norwegian-police-confirm-drill-identical-to-breiviks-attack/
In 7/7/2005 London bombing: (The plot known with Hurricane Katrina, ended on 9/24/2005)
7/7 Mock Terror Drill: What Relationship to the Real Time Terror Attacks?
by Michel Chossudovsky August 8, 2005
A fictional "scenario" of multiple bomb attacks on London's underground took place at exactly the same time as the bomb attack on July 7, 2005.
Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, a private firm on contract to the London Metropolitan Police, described in a BBC interview how he had organized and conducted the anti-terror drill, on behalf of an unnamed business client.
The fictional scenario was based on simultaneous bombs going off at exactly the same time at the underground stations where the real attacks were occurring:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=821
In famous 911/2001 terror attack:
Was the NRO's 9/11 Drill Just a Coincidence?
Posted By: ChristopherBollyn Date: Friday, 1-Nov-2002 16:24:12
U.S. SPY Satellite Agency’s Mock 9/11 Drill Exposes Administration Lies
By Christopher Bollyn
American Free Press
The NRO, which works closely with the Dept. of Defense and CIA, had planned a simulated exercise in which a small jet “crashes” into one of the four towers at the agency's headquarters on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001. The government said it was a “bizarre coincidence” that one of the most important U.S. intelligence agencies had planned a mock plane-into-building crash on Sept. 11, according to the Associated Press who reported the story on August 22.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=25255
All those drills were identical to the coming "terror attack" and happened at same time at same place. They played mission to cover up the main attack. In case the perpetrators were found by the security guard at the site, they would pass the security check by disguising as part of the exercise. Here is how it interrupted the air defense:
9/11 War Games
paralysis of air defenses to ensure the attack succeeded?
"Is this real world or an exercise?" Col. Robert K. Marr Jr. Northeast
Air Defense Sector.
simulation of a plane crash into the NRO headquarters (near Dulles Airport, Virginia) - this was not a "terrorism" exercise but it did result in the evacuation of most NRO employees just as the "real" 9/11 was taking place, making it more difficult for the nation's spy satellites to be used to track the hijacked planes
The publicly available mass media articles about these exercises state that they were similar enough to the actual events that top NORAD personnel were confused, not sure if 9/11 was "part of the drill" or a real world event.
http://www.oilempire.us/wargames.html
Since 911, the “bizarre coincidence" becomes routine job.
689. Plant in garbage can and 6/10/2011 case (10/17/2011)
I have been blocked to access the Internet again since Oct. 2. What I can say is my revelation are too true to be known by others. The Feds are afraid of it. It also means another framed case will come. It may happen on 10/18. My wife is arranged a Philippine tour between 10/18 to 10/24.
How will the Feds frame me in the case? The frequent practice they do is to plant in trash. There was an evident one in 9/24/2005 case. The Feds arranged garbage dumping for me on that day. (see 342. Homeowner Association again (9/12/05))
About four years ago, our garbage cart was stolen. Since the neighbors are agents and informants, obviously they wanted us to buy a new one. Fearing the new garbage cart would be installed with detect bugs or planted drugs, I didn't order a new cart. I burnt the trash or threw them into public garbage can.
The latest attempt was on 6/10/2011. It was Friday, the garbage collect day for our community. At night of 6/9 my daughter urged me to take the recycle cart to the street. I refused. I hadn't done that for a long time. So I thought the Feds organized another case on 6/10 with the nuclear crisis in Nebraska. See (673. Another attempt of Nuclear attack (6/20/2011))
A news I learned several days later proved my worry. Those high ranking officials knew the planned disaster(used as distraction) was coming.
6/10/11 NASA Emails ALL Employees to PREPARE!
June 10, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZUPGw7p9I0&feature=player_embedded
Several weeks later, another news proved the 6/10 plot. Norway police had an anti-terror drill on 6/8, a prepare for the 6/10 "terror attack". The 6/10 plot went soured. They did it again in next month. That was the 7/22 "terror attack" done by Breivik.
The police forgot to inform practice
(Anti-terrorpolitiet avfyrte sprengladninger under en øvelse midt i Oslo, to hundre meter fra Operaen, men glemte å gi beskjed til publikum.) Anti-terror police fired explosive charges during a training center in Oslo, two hundred meters from the Opera, but forgot to notify the public.
HANS O. TORGERSEN Publisert: 06.08.2011 23.27 Oppdatert: 06.08.2011 23.27
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmobil.aftenposten.no%2Farticle.htm%3FarticleId%3D3569108
690. FBI the trash men (10/17.2011)
Another event proved the 6/10 plot related to trash, was a news two days later.
FBI expands agents' reach
Privacy advocates express concern over broader search rules
By Charlie Savage New York Times
WASHIGNGTO - The FBI is giving significant new powers to its roughly 14,000 agents - allowing them more leeway to search databases, go through household trash or use surveillance teams to scrutinize the lives of people who have attracted their attention.
(June 13, 2011 Mercury News)
The fourth amendment of the Constitution protects citizens from unreasonable search and arrest. One important role is to prevent the bad police to frame people by planting. Now the FBI issues their own rules to bypass the law. They can do it not on evidence but on "who have attracted their attention."
Recently there is a movement of "Occupy the Wall Street". It is expanding nationwide. I worry there may be a massive "dirty bomb" terror attack on the protesters in later October - the alleged time when the Feds carry out their framed case.
when I'm alone, I will look at them
shocked and just whisper quietly
"You can see me?"
Originally posted by mjmsprt40:
Kat has been slacking off a bit. He was weekly, then went two weeks, now it's nearly a month. Maybe the Feds are slowing him down a bit. Then again, maybe it's too hard to type when you're laughing yourself silly in an attempt to get others to believe this nonsense.
THEY must have replaced his DSL modem with an acoustic coupler, no doubt to distract him from another attempt on his life ( I bet the dropping temperatures everywhere are the work of HAARP and there's an elaborate plot to lure him outside where he'd freeze to death
)FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
Originally posted by Macallan:
I bet the dropping temperatures everywhere are the work of HAARP and there's an elaborate plot to lure him outside where he'd freeze to death
It is unusually cold for this time of year. It's 4°(C) as we speak! It's also been sunny. Normally we'd have fall storms with loads of rain and it'd probably only cool down to 8° or so at night. Suspicious or what!?!?
Originally posted by Frenzie:
Originally posted by Macallan:
I bet the dropping temperatures everywhere are the work of HAARP and there's an elaborate plot to lure him outside where he'd freeze to death
It is unusually cold for this time of year. It's 4°(C) as we speak! It's also been sunny. Normally we'd have fall storms with loads of rain and it'd probably only cool down to 8° or so at night. Suspicious or what!?!?
HOLY CRAP THEY'RE AFTER YOU TOO?!
FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
Originally posted by Katsung47:
About four years ago, our garbage cart was stolen. Since the neighbors are agents and informants, obviously they wanted us to buy a new one. Fearing the new garbage cart would be installed with detect bugs or planted drugs, I didn't order a new cart. I burnt the trash or threw them into public garbage can.
Katsung,may I make a suggestion? Since your neighbors all appear to be agents and informants, maybe your neighborhood is getting too strange and you should consider moving. Not to my neighborhood, please, it's nice and quiet here and I'd sure like to keep it that way, but still you might want to consider calling Bekins. I hear they're "gentle, quick and kind" when it comes to moving furniture.
Quickie note: Since I moved into this apartment complex two and a half years ago, the local police have been called in to the complex maybe half a dozen times, tops-- and the US Marshals were in the building across from mine once. Given the size of the complex-- that's really quiet.
when I'm alone, I will look at them
shocked and just whisper quietly
"You can see me?"
In a letter to 22 July Commission the Parliament's presidency draws a very critical view of police preparedness and protection of the elected officials in connection with terrorist attacks. Parliament's security people discovered the cars parked against the Parliament's facade immediately after the terrorist bomb. When the elected officials asked police for help, the answer was no: "The police did not have the capacity to take care of this."
- Charles F. Kettering
Originally posted by Macallan:
HOLY CRAP THEY'RE AFTER YOU TOO?!
I think they are. THEY are making all of Western Europe a few degrees colder than average just to let me know THEY are on to me.
23. October 2011, 11:22:02 (edited)
Hmmm..... You don't suppose that the Feds could be sending all that snow to get me to quit writing this stuff, do you? Nah, that wouldn't work. See, if I can't get to work that means I'm at home--- where this computer is-- typing this stuff because there's nothing else to do.
Edit, special side-note: Since I didn't have a shovel, it was fortunate that the neighbors were helping each other dig out. After the storm, the guys at the church I attend gave me a snow shovel. In light of what Kat posted about his garbage containers and his neighbors, maybe I should check that shovel to see if it contains bugs. Can't never tell what kind of strange things them thar feds might come up with.
when I'm alone, I will look at them
shocked and just whisper quietly
"You can see me?"
Originally posted by mjmsprt40:
I suppose now is as good a time as any to blame HAARP for weather in Chicago, too.
Here in Grand Rapids, just over the local pond, we blame our weather anomalies on Chicago!
Originally posted by jbrothernew37:
Originally posted by mjmsprt40:
I suppose now is as good a time as any to blame HAARP for weather in Chicago, too.
Here in Grand Rapids, just over the local pond, we blame our weather anomalies on Chicago!
BWA_HAHAHAHAHA!!!
when I'm alone, I will look at them
shocked and just whisper quietly
"You can see me?"
Originally posted by mjmsprt40:
I suppose now is as good a time as any to blame HAARP for weather in Chicago, too.
For those not in the know...
.......
Weather Warfare:
The Military’s Plan To Draft Mother Nature
by Jerry E. Smith
TABLE OF CONTENTS
INTRODUCTION
Science Beyond The Box -- HAARP -- Geophysical Warfare -- Chemtrails? -- Environmental Modification
Chapter 1: THE RAIN MAKERS
Weather Warfare:
Originally posted by mjmsprt40:
Hmmm..... You don't suppose that the Feds could be sending all that snow to get me to quit writing this stuff, do you? Nah, that wouldn't work. See, if I can't get to work that means I'm at home--- where this computer is-- typing this stuff because there's nothing else to do.
Obviously THEY want you to have plenty time making katsung look ridiculous. That's how nefarious THEY are
FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
Home Guard Soldiers were forced to put training ammunition in their weapons as they were to guard the streets of Oslo after the terrorist attack this summer.
- We didn't have enough ammunition this Friday evening.
- Charles F. Kettering
Originally posted by leirom:
Little (innocent) Norway:
Home Guard Soldiers were forced to put training ammunition in their weapons as they were to guard the streets of Oslo after the terrorist attack this summer.
- We didn't have enough ammunition this Friday evening.
Let's hope you don't have to use any ammunition. Personally, I hate reading of stuff like that terrorist attack, and the best way not to have to read of such attacks is for them not to happen in the first place. The only good thing is that it brings people like Kat out of the woodwork, and his conspiracy theories are good for diversion if nothing else.
when I'm alone, I will look at them
shocked and just whisper quietly
"You can see me?"
Department employees who were on holiday, when the bomb exploded in the government building 22 July, will also apply for compensation. They have been mentally stressed in retrospect, says Martha Randen at the law firm Vogt & Wiig .The office have got more than one hundred new clients after the terrorist attack. The law firm argues that the bomb must be regarded as an attempted murder on all employees in the government building.
- Charles F. Kettering
The Feds used to create big events such like natural disaster, terror attack and war to distract public attention from the case they framed on me. They used to have their assets to spread the disaster information to cheat religious people.
The Feds prepared a framed case on 10/21. 10/21 was Friday – trash collect day in my community. They prepared a big earthquake on that day and let Harold Camping to announce it was the world end day to justify the disaster. The similar attempt last time of “The judgment Day” was 5/21/2011. My wife was arranged a trip to East Coast between 5/20 and 5/22. (see “670. New warning in May (5/20/2011)” and 671) This time she was arranged a Philippine tour from 10/18 to 10/26.
Harold Camping Predicts End of the World, Again
Oct 11, 2011 1:33pm
Harold Camping, the Christian broadcaster who predicted the end of the world would come last May, says the true end is now near. He was off by five months, he says; the real day is Oct. 21.
The Family Radio website has the full text of his latest prediction.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/10/harold-camping-predicts-end-of-the-world-again/
I know the disaster was an earthquake because they prepared a largest drill the world has ever seen on 10/20.
Bay Area prepares for the big one with statewide earthquake drill
By: Bay City News | 10/19/11 11:21 PM
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Bay Area residents are expected to participate in a statewide earthquake drill Thursday at 10:20 a.m. (Courtesy photo)More than 8.5 million Californians will be refilling emergency kits, ducking under tables or standing in doorways as they participate in the largest earthquake drill the world has ever seen Thursday morning, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) said.
http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/2011/10/california-prepares-big-one-statewide-earthquake-drill
There were two earthquakes took place on 10/20 to justify the coming planned big quake. The miracle was that in last world end prediction, there was also a similar earthquake (magnitude 3.6) took place on 5/21. See #571.
2 earthquakes shake up San Francisco Bay Area
By: Sarah Gantz | 10/20/11 10:30 PM Examiner Staff Writer
Two earthquakes (magnitude 3.8 and 4.0) rattled the Bay Area on Thursday just hours after millions of people statewide practiced how to respond to the big one.
http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/bay-area/2011/10/2-earthquakes-shake-san-francisco-bay-area
You can see that was a routine job. From organizing the trip, action day selection (weekends) announcing the Judgment Day, to the scale of the cover up earthquakes. It was a skilled technique.
Of course, there was Iran war as I always said. ABC News reported Harold Camping’s prediction on 10/11. Next day A.G. Holder and FBI Chief Mueller announced “Iran’s plot to assassinate Saudi ambassador in US”. The comments in the Internet mostly think it is a sting to justify a war on Iran.
Originally posted by katsung47:
691. October 21 plot (11/1/2011)
The Feds used to create big events such like natural disaster, terror attack and war to distract public attention from the case they framed on me. They used to have their assets to spread the disaster information to cheat religious people.
The Feds prepared a framed case on 10/21. 10/21 was Friday – trash collect day in my community. They prepared a big earthquake on that day and let Harold Camping to announce it was the world end day to justify the disaster. The similar attempt last time of “The judgment Day” was 5/21/2011. My wife was arranged a trip to East Coast between 5/20 and 5/22. (see “670. New warning in May (5/20/2011)” and 671) This time she was arranged a Philippine tour from 10/18 to 10/26.
Katsung, I'm getting a might curious about this now. What, exactly, are you trying to toss in the trash that the Feds have to generate an earthquake as a distraction? And about arranging trips--- I make big trips any number of times, and the Feds can't even generate a halfway decent rain squall to cover for it... and they generate earthquakes so your wife can visit people in the Philippines? Just get an airline ticket-- it's cheaper and does less damage than earthquakes do. If she needs to make an entrance--- they sell megaphones at Radio Shack. That should work.
when I'm alone, I will look at them
shocked and just whisper quietly
"You can see me?"
Originally posted by katsung47:
Earthquake around magnitude 4 doesn't happen everyday. It is big enough to rattle people, but small enough not to cause actual damage. That's what the Feds want to justify a coming big quake. It means to create an earthquake, at the level what they need, is now a skilled technique for the Pentagon.
This one happened in California, in an area which has a history of earthquakes both large and small. You will have to go some to prove that the Pentagon did it, and that it's not just the shifting plates which is a well known reason for the quakes there. Oh, heck--- for that matter, so far you haven't proved that the Pentagon can generate an earthquake.
OK, here's one for you to think on. Kat, you've been all over the idea of the USA going to war against Iran. Now, if the Pentagon has power to make earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes and so on--- why send even one American soldier? Send a giant earthquake to Tehran. Figure a magnitude 8 or so-- that should get their attention. If that doesn't work, generate a EF4 tornado and send it to Tehran. Look, if you can make Earthquakes on command and cause violent weather to go where you want it to go, then from that day on there is no need to send a single American into harm's way. Just tell out enemies "Do it our way-- or else!". When they figure out we can make calamity happen to them, "or else" gains new meaning.
when I'm alone, I will look at them
shocked and just whisper quietly
"You can see me?"
Note: Garbage day here is usually Tuesday, and to date nobody has shown any interest in my collection of eggshells, tin cans, boxes and so on-- certainly not enough to cause an earthquake or to declare the end of the world just because I toss a bag full of trash. My guess is that most of the readers and responders here could say something similar-- nobody looks at our trash! Nobody generates disasters or even pays much attention--- except maybe cats,
if you had tuna for supper the evening before and you're tossing the tuna cans today.when I'm alone, I will look at them
shocked and just whisper quietly
"You can see me?"
Originally posted by mjmsprt40:
The mystery deepens. What is Katsung disposing of in his trash, that causes the Feds to launch an earthquake to distract public attention to his activities and cause Harold Camping to declare the world ending on Katsung's garbage-pickup day?
If anyone has an apocalypse in his backyard it would be katsung
Meanwhile, he can't post because these nefarious feds keep ringing his doorbell and then hide in the bushes.
Originally posted by mjmsprt40:
Note: Garbage day here is usually Tuesday, and to date nobody has shown any interest in my collection of eggshells, tin cans, boxes and so on--
That's what THEY want you to think.
FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
Originally posted by mjmsprt40:
Originally posted by katsung47:
691. October 21 plot (11/1/2011)
The Feds used to create big events such like natural disaster, terror attack and war to distract public attention from the case they framed on me. They used to have their assets to spread the disaster information to cheat religious people.
The Feds prepared a framed case on 10/21. 10/21 was Friday – trash collect day in my community. They prepared a big earthquake on that day and let Harold Camping to announce it was the world end day to justify the disaster. The similar attempt last time of “The judgment Day” was 5/21/2011. My wife was arranged a trip to East Coast between 5/20 and 5/22. (see “670. New warning in May (5/20/2011)” and 671) This time she was arranged a Philippine tour from 10/18 to 10/26.
Katsung, I'm getting a might curious about this now. What, exactly, are you trying to toss in the trash that the Feds have to generate an earthquake as a distraction? And about arranging trips--- I make big trips any number of times, and the Feds can't even generate a halfway decent rain squall to cover for it... and they generate earthquakes so your wife can visit people in the Philippines? Just get an airline ticket-- it's cheaper and does less damage than earthquakes do. If she needs to make an entrance--- they sell megaphones at Radio Shack. That should work.
Just normal trash, what else? Do you know what is plant? What is fake? What is "WMD" accusation? It means when a wolf wants to eat a lamb, it always find an excuse. I'm getting a might curious about this now, that is your mission as a provateur to discount their dislikes? It's sick to see some one pretending to be ignorant here.
I better watch out for the feds now
FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
Originally posted by katsung47:
It means when a wolf wants to eat a lamb, it always find an excuse.
Odd analogy. When a wolf wants to eat a lamb, it just goes ahead and does it.
when I'm alone, I will look at them
shocked and just whisper quietly
"You can see me?"
Breivik has testified in police interviews that he wanted to copy a liquidation method has been used for centuries in Europe.
Anders Behring Breivik (32) had memorized a speech he wanted to read if he followed his own plan to liquidate Eskil Pedersen, Jonas Gahr Støre, and Gro Harlem Brundtland on Utøya.
Terrosisten Anders said could not carry out the plans because of lack of time...
- Charles F. Kettering
Originally posted by johnnysaucepn:
Originally posted by katsung47:
It means when a wolf wants to eat a lamb, it always find an excuse.
Odd analogy. When a wolf wants to eat a lamb, it just goes ahead and does it.
That's normal wolf in nature. What I talk about are the wolves in sheep skin which masked with "democracy". You pretend to be innocent too?
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Norway killer found insane, unfit for prison
By BJOERN H. AMLAND and KARL RITTER 11/29/2011
The report, written by two psychiatrists who spent 36 hours talking to Breivik, will be reviewed by an expert panel before the Oslo district court rules on his mental state.
Their conclusions surprised many outside experts and contrasted with earlier comments by the head of the review panel, who told The Associated Press in July that it was unlikely that Breivik would be declared insane because the attacks were so carefully planned and executed.
But prosecutors insisted the psychiatric report describes a man living in a "delusional universe" — a paranoid schizophrenic who's lost touch with reality.
Disguised as a police officer, Breivik lured youths from their hiding places, then executed them. He also reportedly had calculated how many victims he would be able to kill before being arrested.
"It is difficult to see this as criminal insanity," Anders Forsman told AP. "He seems to have carried out the killings in a rational way. He is an efficient killing machine."
http://news.yahoo.com/norway-killer-found-insane-unfit-prison-173450617.html
Originally posted by katsung47:
Originally posted by johnnysaucepn:
Originally posted by katsung47:
It means when a wolf wants to eat a lamb, it always find an excuse.
Odd analogy. When a wolf wants to eat a lamb, it just goes ahead and does it.
That's normal wolf in nature. What I talk about are the wolves in sheep skin which masked with "democracy". You pretend to be innocent too?
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Norway killer found insane, unfit for prison
By BJOERN H. AMLAND and KARL RITTER 11/29/2011
The report, written by two psychiatrists who spent 36 hours talking to Breivik, will be reviewed by an expert panel before the Oslo district court rules on his mental state.
Their conclusions surprised many outside experts and contrasted with earlier comments by the head of the review panel, who told The Associated Press in July that it was unlikely that Breivik would be declared insane because the attacks were so carefully planned and executed.
But prosecutors insisted the psychiatric report describes a man living in a "delusional universe" — a paranoid schizophrenic who's lost touch with reality.
Disguised as a police officer, Breivik lured youths from their hiding places, then executed them. He also reportedly had calculated how many victims he would be able to kill before being arrested.
"It is difficult to see this as criminal insanity," Anders Forsman told AP. "He seems to have carried out the killings in a rational way. He is an efficient killing machine."
http://news.yahoo.com/norway-killer-found-insane-unfit-prison-173450617.html
It is entirely possible to be as crazy as a tree full of owls and do something like this. Living in your own delusional world doesn't rule out the possibility of methodically carrying out a diabolical plan by any means. In fact, it might make it easier to do something like this. How many sane people do you know who are plotting to blow up a school yard, or send a letter bomb, or do any of a long list of terrible acts? Very few, I'd bet.
when I'm alone, I will look at them
shocked and just whisper quietly
"You can see me?"
In other words there will be no trial, and he should be cured of his illness and released if that is possible, or detained in a psychiatric institution until no longer deemed a threat to society otherwise.
It would seem that the delusional universes of Breivik and the psychiatrists don't overlap, with the rest of us somewhere in between.The court psychiatrists believe Breivik is psychotic in part because he invented words. Words they should have googled.
When Anders Breivik Behring met the two psychiatric experts, Torgeir Husby and Synne Sørheim, 10 August, he recorded seven questions he wanted answered. One of the questions was: "Do you think all national Darwinists are psychopaths?"
The experts were confused because they had not heard the word before, and Breivik had to explain what he meant: A national Darwinist uses a pragmatic basis for survival. As the United States dropped the atomic bomb in 1945 and took hundreds of thousands of lives, to save millions of others.
Strange new words
There were many such words as the conversation progressed. And when this first meeting was over, summed up the committee that Breivik used words he pointed to be constructed, such as national Darwinists, suicidal Marxist, and suicidal humanism. They classified the phenomenon as "neologisms." Yet more weird, and for the experts unfamiliar, words, followed. Suicidal Humanism. Knight Chief Justice. Anarko-jihadists. All were classified as "neologisms."
A neologisms - new words - is an important concept in the diagnosis of a psychotic person. A patient who has a bizarre delusion that a normal stomach ache is because he has a dog in the stomach that will eat itself out, for example, can begin to talk about "gut-eating dogs." In the diagnostic manual of the World Health Organization ICD-10, belongs to neologisms a symptom group. If you have symptoms from at least two such groups can be classified as schizophrenic, which Husby and Sørheim makes a key point of the report.
Wednesday night I googled "nasjonaldarwinist" and got no hits. I think it was a bit strange, because it sounded so familiar. So I googled "National Darwinists" in English, which is the language Breivik use of both the manifest and the various discussion forums. It had nearly three million hits, and the highest ranked one was by the New York Times. In the book by the highly respected former CIA analyst Michael Scheuer, "Marching Toward Hell: America and Islam after Iraq". Scheuer advocates precisely the survival strategy for the United States as Breivik described. Bombs and brutal force against the enemy will secure our own.
Game Universe
I Googled further, and got several hits. All Breivik's self-proclaimed "new words" that psychiatrists seem to have accepted at face value and as a sign of bizarre delusions, are frequently used today, mostly in two areas. Either we are talking about the future of pessimistic visions related to the Islamization of Europe, "suicidalmarxisme," "suicidal humanism," "anarko-nationalism", etc. Or we are talking about games.
Yesterday I went down at Games Workshop in Møllergata in Oslo, a block from where Breivik parked the bomb car, and bought a five centimeters [two inch for you non-metrics] high Knight Chief Justice, which Breivik refers to himself as the manifesto, from a game universe called Warhammer. There were many dozens of variations, but the young shop assistants knew immediately what I wanted. That which in psychiatry is fantasy creatures associated with delusions, are a common figures for game-playing youth.
Relevant concepts
It is inside these two universes Breivik has been in the past two years while he sat hunched over the computer in his bedroom at Skøyen. And in these worlds the terms he uses are no more related to compulsive obsessions than what other participants may have. For people who "fight with the pen" to get all Muslims deported from Europe these are relevant political concepts that appear self-explanatory in context.
There has been expressed concern whether Sørheim and Husby has had sufficient insight into what kind of reality Breivik has moved in online. If they have understood the politically extreme perception of reality he has dealt with. The classification of all these words as "neologisms" suggests that they have not. And also that Breivik has tricked them when he said that there are words he has created himself.
It is quite possible that this has nothing to do with the final diagnosis. But it is an obvious weakness in a report that practically screams for more critical questioning.
"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
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Originally posted by OakdaleFTL:
Is there even one documented case of a criminally insane person being "cured"?
My Grandfather used to say that Reagan was cured when he finally switched from being a Democrat to a Republican.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
"Americans should not go abroad to slay dragons they do not understand in the name of spreading democracy." -President John Quincy Adams
Originally posted by OakdaleFTL:
Alex in A Clockwork Orange?Is there even one documented case of a criminally insane person being "cured"?
I actually think curing mental illnesses is feasible, though not with the medieval methods we are using today. The brain is fairly plastic.
However, back in the non-delusional world a psychiatric institution like this could just as well have as an entrance sign "Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate" (Abandon all hope, ye who enter here).
It is also a convenient decision, though I don't think that was the intent of the experts. A court case would be very messy. Up until now Breivik has been effectively muffled, but that would not be possible in a court case. Furthermore after the verdict he would be free to hold court himself in prison, meeting groupies, taking interviews and so on. If pronounced insane these rights would be curtailed, he would effectively disappear from public view. No interviews, no meetings. For his own protection, you know.
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