My Opera Mail Team

Welcome to My Opera Mail Beta

By Johan Borgborg. Thursday, April 7, 2011 11:10:00 AM

Welcome to My Opera Mail Beta and the first post from the Mail Team!

From today, all My Opera accounts also have an @myopera.com e-mail address and you can try out our new mail service at https://mail.opera.com, just log in with the same user name and password you use for My Opera, Opera Link or Opera Unite.

Our goal is to make a fast and friendly mail service that is efficient and easy to use on any device, whether you prefer to access your e-mail from Opera Mini on a mobile phone (dedicated mobile interface), a tablet with touch interface (large, comfortable buttons) or a desktop computer (extensive keyboard shortcuts).

This is the first public release of the service and you can expect old features to be refined and new to be added both during and after the beta period. We'll announce news on this blog, so press that Subscribe button now wink



My Opera Mail Beta is brand new, but it is also based on the systems and experience of the FastMail.FM team that joined Opera last year.

Those who have already used FastMail.FM will recognize a few bits and pieces, but major parts of My Opera Mail Beta have been rewritten as an AJAX application to take advantage of modern browsers and speed up the entire experience.

One of the more interesting additions compared to FastMail is a feature we originally planned for the initial version of Opera's built-in mail client "M2" but that we never had time to complete before the release of Opera 7.0: Conversation view. Grouping all messages in a thread as a single page makes even more sense for a Web service than a native application, so we decided to put in the extra effort to support conversations across folders on our Cyrus IMAP servers.

The new system has been in closed beta for a few weeks already and one of our beta testers posted an entire collection of screen shots, but the best way to try it is to simply head over to https://mail.opera.com and play with it!

Mail Update

Comments

Laurentlsaplai Friday, April 8, 2011 5:06:51 AM

Good work so far but...

It seems to work better on IE7 that latest Barracuda built (2081)

- Windows takes a very long time to load, if it loads at all.
- I was unable to send out a simple text message
- Email address auto-completion doesn't work when writing new message. It works in other browsers (just trying the Firefox laying around on my laptop)
- No Rich text editing in Opera

I repeat that last one: no reach text editing in Opera but when I tried on IE7 earlier today there was an option for rich text. Has it been removed or is IE7 simply more capable? wink

It's almost unusable on my laptop (running latest build on Ubuntu 10.10). Something must be broken...

I will try to set up access in M2 to see if it's better.

Eager to see more.

Cheers!

Laurentlsaplai Friday, April 8, 2011 5:23:11 AM

Questions:
Are we going to have 1 click setup in M2? so that it becomes super easy to integrate the webmail and the mail client and use either one, depending where we are and which device we use.

Also, are we going to have automatic address book integrations, a la Opera Link, between M2 and the webmail.
Once again, this would give users maximum flexibility depending on their circumstances

Cheers!

Laurent

Cutting Spoonhellspork Friday, April 8, 2011 5:39:56 AM

Looking great. Site design is pretty good, and IMAP is laser-smooth. Hoping for a better initial setup experience though. (Not all users would easily realize the IMAP port needed to be changed)

Also the example attachment in the welcome mail says: "Press the 'Back' button on your browser to get back tothe view message screen.", which will not make any sense to mailclient users.

Taufiq Ahmedtareqf1 Friday, April 8, 2011 5:56:32 AM

ahhh! one of my oldest email account is back with new look. Thank you Opera.

shakeel ahmedteamotantu Friday, April 8, 2011 6:02:20 AM

party party party party

Nimesh nimeshthakkar Friday, April 8, 2011 6:30:41 AM

https://mail.opera.com/m/ looks much better than https://mail.opera.com/mail/

Why 2 interface?

In Mobile interface, controls are overlapping.
http://my.opera.com/nimeshthakkar/albums/showpic.dml?album=6780452&picture=102340642

Mimis Mum (MM)mimi_s_mum Friday, April 8, 2011 6:32:11 AM

Originally posted by lsaplai:

Are we going to have 1 click setup in M2?

The man has said Yes. smile


[Addendum]
Already included in the second RC (2083) yes

zileut Friday, April 8, 2011 7:43:31 AM

You should improve attachment management because nowadays one want to send a big files with popular email providers (Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo mail) it is very difficult because big files are send slowly by this email provider and unfortunately they have a one more disadvantage that they have file size limit.

So you should create a storage where files can be uploaded and stored moreover this files can be shared with friends. It was ideal if the file size limit would be 100 MB.

Furkan Eralpfurkaneralp Friday, April 8, 2011 8:06:57 AM

Please change the MyOpera Mail favicon else than the Opera "O".

Mağruf ÇolakoğluZAHEK Friday, April 8, 2011 8:15:00 AM

up

Mimis Mum (MM)mimi_s_mum Friday, April 8, 2011 8:16:33 AM

Originally posted by furkaneralp:

Please change the MyOpera Mail favicon else than the Opera "O".

+1
What about the one like the avatar of this group? A big red O with @ in the middle? bigsmile

timmi Friday, April 8, 2011 8:23:20 AM


Not the top priority at first since mobile access is more important for us.



Speaking of mobile, no conversation view for opera mini and opera mobile? the inbox would be much more cleaner.

btw: quoting with opera mini & mobile does not work here...

celal yılmazcelalyilmaz Friday, April 8, 2011 8:51:49 AM

hello.
good site to get new mail. I like your site. I wish to add a page to an e-mail as soon as possible, but Turkish.
best regards

Johan Borgborg Friday, April 8, 2011 9:39:29 AM

Originally posted by lsaplai:

Questions:
Are we going to have 1 click setup in M2? so that it becomes super easy to integrate the webmail and the mail client and use either one, depending where we are and which device we use.



Yes, we're planning 1-click setup in M2 if you're a Link or Unite user and we're looking into contacts sync with Opera Link as well.

JoshJoshL Friday, April 8, 2011 9:41:04 AM

Hey, hello! I can't reply to the "webmaster" there!
This page - and other pages - are downloading good, but that replying has now long been stuck failing. Why!
The reply I'm trying to send now considers some errors there.
As I can't send it, here it is:
ATTACHMENT TEST

When I clicked "download", a new tab started and then stuck failing.
Until I returned to the message tab where I could see a usual splash screen to download.
Downloading was successful. However, it was then dim to admit the sense of the following words in the received doc:
«Press the 'Back' button on your browser to get back to
the view message screen.»
Because that "view message screen" hadn't at all disappeared anywhere..

By the way, the "stuck failing" tab's URL was https://mail.opera.com/at/d/f29112729u1/Generated-SOiIYe5Cmp87Cfc0obIkfw%40messagingengine.com/This_is_how_attachments_appear.txt


There's observed a more serious trouble.
The text of the message now has been constantly partly disappearing(!!!).
I think it's because of the automatic drafting, which seems to work with errors.

Johan Borgborg Friday, April 8, 2011 9:41:43 AM

Originally posted by nimeshthakkar:

https://mail.opera.com/m/ looks much better than https://mail.opera.com/mail/ Why 2 interface?

One is for Mobile and more basic browsers (IE6/7), one is for Desktop and modern browsers. We want to cover a wide range of browsers.

JoshJoshL Friday, April 8, 2011 9:47:14 AM

And please you should make "stop proceeding" feature there. As I can't stop that sticking re-re-re-sending attempts with my browser's instruments (only to close the tab I'm afraid).

JoshJoshL Friday, April 8, 2011 9:50:36 AM

And please where is a "Sent folder" there? If to check whether I've sent something or not, at least?

Michael A. Puls IIburnout426 Friday, April 8, 2011 9:52:28 AM

Originally posted by borg:

One is for Mobile and more basic browsers (IE6/7), one is for Desktop and modern browsers. We want to cover a wide range of browsers.



I didn't even know there was an https://mail.opera.com/mail/ version. The link on the mail tab points to https://mail.opera.com/m/ but that one is stuck at "loading" for me. Using desktop Opera on WinXP.

The /mail/ one looks horrible right now. All kinds of things overlap. The /m/ one looked nice the couple times I was able to get it to load and only "move to" and the search field overlapped a little.

The /mail/ one loses styles when opening the panel in Opera. Looks like someone thought it'd be a good idea to use media queries here. That's fine in itself. But, they should be used to provide a good layout at smaller resolutions, not for degrading the layout.

Chirpie Friday, April 8, 2011 9:54:15 AM

Originally posted by Outskirter:

Does Opera Mail offer POP3 access?

I don't really see why it should. POP3 is very old and outdated. IMAP is much better in every way, AFAIK.

Originally posted by lsaplai:

It seems to work better on IE7 that latest Barracuda built (2081)

It works fine here. Sounds like you have a broken installation, or that you are using some broken extension.

Originally posted by nimeshthakkar:

https://mail.opera.com/m/ looks much better than https://mail.opera.com/mail/

How did you access the last one?

EnricoEnrico89 Friday, April 8, 2011 9:57:09 AM

you should put the "reply" button and the "send" button (when trying to send a draw) in the top of the page and not in the bottom. It'll be more easy to use. Now you must scroll down the page to find the button

JoshJoshL Friday, April 8, 2011 9:58:52 AM

And there is observed some language mess there: clicking "Mail", I get a page with Russian titles at the top desk, and English - at the left menu. Other pages (though only one which is mostly available now) are thoroughly in English (which is my set preference for MyOpera).

Chirpie Friday, April 8, 2011 10:00:02 AM

Originally posted by zileut:

So you should create a storage where files can be uploaded and stored moreover this files can be shared with friends.

You mean something like my.opera.com? lol

JoshJoshL Friday, April 8, 2011 10:04:01 AM

I've just received a message into "Junk mail" from "Mail Delivery System":

Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
Mail Delivery System кому joshlThis is the mail system at host myoperaweb2.messagingengine.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
включенПоказать подробности13:18Junk Mail

This is the mail system at host myoperaweb2.messagingengine.com.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

The mail system

<webmaster@myopera.com>: host lmtp.internal[10.202.7.2] said: 550 5.1.1
<webmaster@myopera.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local
recipient table (in reply to end of DATA command)

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Jorge BustamanteJorge-Bustamante Friday, April 8, 2011 10:07:00 AM

Currently you cannot use mail.opera.com if you have a - in your username. We are working on this and hope to have it fixed shortly. cry


When I could use me. I could not prove it by nick you can not. But when I could confused

zileut Friday, April 8, 2011 10:08:16 AM

Originally posted by Chirpie:

You mean something like my.opera.com?



Yes

JoshJoshL Friday, April 8, 2011 10:16:42 AM

Originally posted by Jorge-Bustamante:

Currently you cannot use mail.opera.com if you have a - in your username. We are working on this and hope to have it fixed shortly. cry


Who are you answering this to?

i0i-0 Friday, April 8, 2011 10:46:55 AM

Where is the right place to report bugs?
We have again a problem with сyrillic names attachments via web-interface.

IgaIgaIgarashiT Friday, April 8, 2011 10:49:01 AM

It's well-done. The mail platform is Norway's idea? It's marvelous. It's close to what I have wanted to have!

Nekeav Nekeav Friday, April 8, 2011 10:54:24 AM

I have a problem seeing the mail using the Opera browser in all versions. With Firefox4 works well. I can not see the mail, the screen turns white, but I can see the contacts. Windows7 use 32bit. Sorry, if this is not the site to discuss the bugs.
Thanks.
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Furkan Eralpfurkaneralp Friday, April 8, 2011 11:38:25 AM

The birthday option in the contact details turns with the "Couldn't understand the date specified for BirthdayCncl" and it's not clear that how it should be written.

And hope that import from Gmail contacts will be served as an option.

yousafyousaf465 Friday, April 8, 2011 11:44:24 AM

it's not working with opera mail client. "connection to Pop server failed"

Michael A. Puls IIburnout426 Friday, April 8, 2011 11:58:51 AM

Originally posted by yousaf465:

it's not working with opera mail client. "connection to Pop server failed"



imap.myopera.com
port 993
tls checked
authentication auto

Once set up, "menu -> mail -> IMAP folders" and make sure you're subscribed to all of them.

smtp.myopera.com
port 587
tls checked
authentication auto

Mr. PurrsonalityMrPurrsonality Friday, April 8, 2011 12:32:08 PM

When I sent a test message from my myopera account to another account (at hushmail), the test reply I sent back from hushmail was not grouped 'conversationally' by the interface. But the next message sent out from the interface WAS grouped as a conversation with the hushmail reply, while the original message was still sitting there on its own. ???

Mesbekius Friday, April 8, 2011 12:36:06 PM

Originally posted by furkaneralp:

The birthday option in the contact details turns with the "Couldn't understand the date specified for BirthdayCncl" and it's not clear that how it should be written.


Use the form: yyyy-mm-dd (include the hyphens).

Furkan Eralpfurkaneralp Friday, April 8, 2011 12:45:25 PM

Originally posted by sbekius:

S.B. 8. April 2011, 15:36

Originally posted by furkaneralp:

The birthday option in the contact details turns with the "Couldn't understand the date specified for BirthdayCncl" and it's not clear that how it should be written.

Use the form: yyyy-mm-dd (include the hyphens).

Thanks, it's done. This should be also stated in the "edit contact" menu. Also, hope that an avatar can be set for every contact.

minnix Friday, April 8, 2011 1:30:41 PM

Thanks, a new free e-mail adress is always welcome. Would definitely like to have the option to compose rich-text e-mails. I see that it is a possibility though not a priority as pointed out here:

Originally posted by borg:

Will we be able to send html-emails?

Probably someday. Not the top priority at first since mobile access is more important for us.



I suggest you should consider adopting and implementing the CKEditor 3 which is currently in use at fastmail. Excellent RTE which seems to default to plain text mode so it shouldn't cause any undue heartache for mobile users while still providing a more diverse arsenal of tools for all. Here's to your future!

HenryAOTEAROAnz Friday, April 8, 2011 1:33:51 PM

V/ cool i like party

el_esponjoso Friday, April 8, 2011 1:35:39 PM

I like this new myopera service, but I have a question:

My Opera Mail will display ads at future just like Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo and other free e-mail services do it currently?

All that blank space next to messages should be filled with something.

Ankuryadavankur Friday, April 8, 2011 1:56:05 PM

I forwarded an email from gmail, and it look better in Opera if I press fit to screen button. Without it, I get 2 extra scrollbars - horizontal and vertical scrollbars within the email that only scroll about 10 pixels. The real working scrollbar is still the opera scrollbar.

The email comes out nice, with colored inlining of previous emails, but scrolling is not very smooth.

The email content takes only half of the screen, it could be wider.

Overall the feel is very clean. Quite likable.

Chirpie Friday, April 8, 2011 2:01:52 PM

Originally posted by zileut:

Originally posted by Chirpie:

You mean something like my.opera.com?

Yes

There you go. You already have what you asked for! up

lokomotivfuehrer Friday, April 8, 2011 2:22:40 PM

Great!
Yesterday I was sad that Nokias Ovi Webmail was closed and integrated into Yahoo. I was very fond of their no-frills design.
And today Opera starts their service with a no-frills design! smile *happy*
Keep it clean! Do not start stuff like FAcebook-Integration and Twitter support. Just plain webmail.

How much storage space does opera web mail offer?

zileut Friday, April 8, 2011 2:25:04 PM

Originally posted by Chirpie:

There you go. You already have what you asked for



Yes, but files upload in Opera Mail would be more simpler than in my.opera.com
and
if Opera mail had file storage, it would be a big advantage against to other email providers

Outskirter Friday, April 8, 2011 2:26:11 PM

@Chirpie: Thanks, but I wasn't asking whether POP3 access was a good idea or not. In fact, it wasn't even a request. I merely wanted to know whether it was under consideration. If not, no problem; POP3 is best for my needs, and since Gmail supports it (along with IMAP), I can simply stick with my Gmail account.

Chirpie Friday, April 8, 2011 3:03:28 PM

Originally posted by Outskirter:

POP3 is best for my needs

How come?

Guilhermenobodyus Friday, April 8, 2011 3:16:21 PM

I get the message "Currently you cannot use mail.opera.com if you have a - in your username. We are working on this and hope to have it fixed shortly."

But my username doesn't have a "-" at all. left

Furkan Eralpfurkaneralp Friday, April 8, 2011 3:23:22 PM

This new MyOpera mail is the greatest design for a webmail service i've ever seen. Really great. Is this a joke by the way, do you want ads for empty spaces? Who wants that his/her mail interface should be filled with clutter?

Originally posted by el_esponjoso:

el_esponjoso 8. April 2011, 16:35

I like this new myopera service, but I have a question: My Opera Mail will display ads at future just like Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo and other free e-mail services do it currently? All that blank space next to messages should be filled with something.

Fred Seamanfsmn10 Friday, April 8, 2011 3:49:39 PM

Just wondering if this is the same account as one a person creates in the Mail feature built into the browser. Or is that mainly for importing other email accounts? If so, then I can import myopera.com email account into the regular feature right?

Daniel HendrycksDanielHendrycks Friday, April 8, 2011 4:00:24 PM

Shouldn't it be mail.myopera.com?

JoshJoshL Friday, April 8, 2011 4:12:56 PM

O'k, I'm unsubscribing here, because there is more bother than answers.

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