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Monday, March 26, 2012 7:43:59 PM
"Usurp authority" is in addition interesting. It's the word authenteo (Strong's again) which literally means "one who acts by himself authority, autocratic; an absolute master . "
This phrase, "usurp authority" doesn't consult a woman -- precisely what, preaching on Sunday? Prophesying? Ministering in short of Wisdom or interpreting a tongue? "Usurp authority" means (pursuing the teaching of the Ephesian "goddess" cultus) that such a woman tries to take over the church -- "exercising total control and mastery". The following, of course, would be exactly per what the priestesses of Artimus would attempt to do!
By the way -- When people reading this passage together with go from "not usurp authority" to "For Adam was initially formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was at the transgression", it just seems really weird . Exactly why does indeed Paul launch into this peculiar argument from Genesis -- an argument he uses here in support of here?
It's because the incipient Gnostic teachings -- which often fit so well with the Artimus cultus -- conditioned that Adam was the main who was totally deceived and Eve (as a result of listening to the serpent) became dealing with of True Spiritual Perception and Knowledge!
Consequently, in light of this teaching at Ephesus, Robert says, basically, " NO! Adam was produced first , after that Eve, and it was Eve who was deceived! "
Over-all, after taking into thing to consider these cultural issues surrounding these instructions to the Ephesian Believers, the case for male-dominated ministry in your body of Christ is weak. In a sense, you may say these particular instructions would still apply today to any culture in which women were trained to adopt over a place of absolute spiritual leadership and teach the doctrine with demons. In such a case -- they need to learn quietly and humbly receive instruction using the truth!
Nevertheless this is simply False in most of your system of Christ today. The truth is, the male-dominated perspective doesn't really fit well with other passages inside New Testament. Some which come right off the top of my head comprise (a) Antics 16. 7 which mentions your apostle "Junias" (which for the reason that day is a usually female name); (b) Gal 2 where there's no "slave nor free" and "male nor female" with Christ; and (c) the location where the well-known preacher Apollos "spoke and taught the things of the Lord vigilantly, knowing only the baptism associated with John. And Aquila [man] and Priscilla [ person heard him, plus they took him and expounded to him the way of God more perfectly". (That last one is powerful -- due to the fact Jews believed females shouldn't be taught spiritual truth, yet it was eventually the husband/wife and man/woman group of Aquila and Priscilla who corrected Apollos theologically!)
Anyway -- when culture is taken into account -- there's just too much uncertainty about the 1 Tim 2 text for me personally to simply "accept" that teaching of some of our culture in restricting women from full and free ministry inside Church. rostrumWhether it is selecting a flower for your anniversary, or looking for the best flower to let her know that you're sorry for an argument, flowers have meanings and choosing a flower based upon its significance shows her that you're genuinely interested in her feelings and shows that there is a romantic side.
This phrase, "usurp authority" doesn't consult a woman -- precisely what, preaching on Sunday? Prophesying? Ministering in short of Wisdom or interpreting a tongue? "Usurp authority" means (pursuing the teaching of the Ephesian "goddess" cultus) that such a woman tries to take over the church -- "exercising total control and mastery". The following, of course, would be exactly per what the priestesses of Artimus would attempt to do!
By the way -- When people reading this passage together with go from "not usurp authority" to "For Adam was initially formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was at the transgression", it just seems really weird . Exactly why does indeed Paul launch into this peculiar argument from Genesis -- an argument he uses here in support of here?
It's because the incipient Gnostic teachings -- which often fit so well with the Artimus cultus -- conditioned that Adam was the main who was totally deceived and Eve (as a result of listening to the serpent) became dealing with of True Spiritual Perception and Knowledge!
Consequently, in light of this teaching at Ephesus, Robert says, basically, " NO! Adam was produced first , after that Eve, and it was Eve who was deceived! "
Over-all, after taking into thing to consider these cultural issues surrounding these instructions to the Ephesian Believers, the case for male-dominated ministry in your body of Christ is weak. In a sense, you may say these particular instructions would still apply today to any culture in which women were trained to adopt over a place of absolute spiritual leadership and teach the doctrine with demons. In such a case -- they need to learn quietly and humbly receive instruction using the truth!
Nevertheless this is simply False in most of your system of Christ today. The truth is, the male-dominated perspective doesn't really fit well with other passages inside New Testament. Some which come right off the top of my head comprise (a) Antics 16. 7 which mentions your apostle "Junias" (which for the reason that day is a usually female name); (b) Gal 2 where there's no "slave nor free" and "male nor female" with Christ; and (c) the location where the well-known preacher Apollos "spoke and taught the things of the Lord vigilantly, knowing only the baptism associated with John. And Aquila [man] and Priscilla [ person heard him, plus they took him and expounded to him the way of God more perfectly". (That last one is powerful -- due to the fact Jews believed females shouldn't be taught spiritual truth, yet it was eventually the husband/wife and man/woman group of Aquila and Priscilla who corrected Apollos theologically!)
Anyway -- when culture is taken into account -- there's just too much uncertainty about the 1 Tim 2 text for me personally to simply "accept" that teaching of some of our culture in restricting women from full and free ministry inside Church. rostrumWhether it is selecting a flower for your anniversary, or looking for the best flower to let her know that you're sorry for an argument, flowers have meanings and choosing a flower based upon its significance shows her that you're genuinely interested in her feelings and shows that there is a romantic side.
