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Darwin's first taste of freedom!

Well, sort of! p

Darwin 'asked' to come out by digging at his vivarium door, so I opened it for him. The first few times, he retreated back onto his log. But he kept coming to the front again once I closed the door and moved away. Then finally, one time he didn't back off. I opened the door, and offered him my arm to climb up on... and he climbed up! bigsmile Without being tempted by any food either, as he'd already eaten that day. He climbed up onto my shoulder and then onto my back. I sat on my bed and let him climb down. He very nervously explored my bed.

He was a bit scared of the big space around him, and kept his body very flat and low, but he was very interested in exploring his new surroundings smile

After about 10 minutes, I noticed him looking back over towards his vivarium, I could see him trying to figure out a way back over there! So I picked him up and lifted him back over. He didn't try to whip me at all! He did struggle a little bit, but stopped after a second or two. Yay Darwin! happy

Hopefully he will learn to associate being handled, or human contact, with more exciting things and places to explore.

Darwin is growing up fast!

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I thought it was about time for a new post! bigsmile

Neo is doing well. She came out for a wander around today, and enjoyed jumping around the furniture in my room and running down the landing! p She came and said a brief 'hello!' to Darwin, who responded by giving her a series of jerky head movements left This probably meant he was feeling a bit nervous of her being there, and also a slight warning perhaps that over 'here' is his territory, so don't even try to come near! knight Neo calmly walked off without responding to his concerns, and went to admire herself in the mirror instead cool

I should also add on that note, that two days ago Darwin did his first head bob! smile Ok, it was aggression, and directed towards me, but it was still cool to see that he is starting to reach adulthood happy

Darwin's training is still ongoing - he has good days and bad days. I am beginning to think that some of his aggression may be territory related, as he will come to me for food, and seems a bit quieter if he is out of his vivarium. He is just over a year old now, and should reach maturity anywhere between 18 and 24 months old. He's already decorating his own vivarium! lol


I decided to add a bit of (non-edible) greenery to Darwin's vivarium to make it more interesting for him to look at. He decided to check it out, and after a few licks realised it wasn't edible and now doesn't bother investigating this new addition to his home, which is good news for him and the decorations!

You can see he is already growing up and changing shape from the above picture - he has now lost his 'baby' green coloured belly, and it has been replaced with a similar red/orange colouration like the rest of his body! bigeyes His head is also elongating more, and his spikes are noticeably longer, compared to some of his earlier photos... (see below!) He is also quite a bit bigger, and chunkier, than when I first brought him home. Oh, and, most noticeably for me, he is now eating more than Neo does! yikes

Darwin's progress

I think that is pretty much all the taming processes covered for now, so I will finish with a final pic of Darwin, taken today, showing his current 'taming' state smile In the pic, he has voluntarily come to the open door of the vivarium, he knows he is about to be given some food, and he is allowing me to pet his back happy


His dewlap is relaxed, his eyes are open, and he is tolerating me interacting with him. This is especially good, seeing as he was the one to approach me, and I did not force the interaction. Still, I doubt he would do this out of pure want of interaction, if food wasn't nearby! whistle

I will keep working with him, and post any significant updates wink

I also noticed, after looking back at some of the photos of Darwin during his earlier 'taming' stages, that he seems to have grown a fair bit since then!! bigeyes Particularly in the post where there is a photograph of him being a 'spider-iguana' and hanging onto the temperature sticker in his vivarium eek He especially seems to have developed a more defined looking head and nuchal crest, and lost the more rounded baby characteristics of when he was a bit smaller. Infact, I am pretty sure in saying that he is a male, as his head shape, attitude and amount he is eating (bordering on similar to Neo! bigeyes) all seem to indicate this. However, I may yet be proved wrong, but I am willing to take this gamble for now! wink

Iguana taming - stage six

The next step is to just keep going with taming your iguana in this fashion - don't be worried if he seems to 'forget' or suddenly get scared by something, and seems to go back a stage. Just be really patient with him, and he should learn that you aren't going to hurt him. If he does go back a stage, drop back to the previous 'lesson' and make sure he is happy with it before you move on again. It is likely that he will 're-learn' the earlier stages a lot faster than the first time around, and will end up back at the point at which he freaked out and hopefully overcome it.

Once your iguana is happy sitting on your hand, you can try petting him on his neck or side with one or a few fingers. Sometimes iguanas may adjust to one way of contact quicker than the other, for example if your iguana has already been accustomed to being touched on his back, but not being lifted up. On the other hand, like Darwin, he may seem happier sitting on your hand than being petted on his back. He probably associates a hand coming over his back with being picked up, and that is what he may not enjoy.

Remember to approach him slowly, keeping your hand lower than he is. It's a good idea to pet your iguana with the back of your fingers, as this area of your finger had less fat covering it. Sometimes reptiles highly dislike people smoothing them with the 'fatty' side of the hand, as it sort of feels to them the equivalent of if you had a slightly clammy hand, and then ran it over a plastic surface - it sort of ends up 'juddering' due to the friction. This is similar (though obviously on a smaller scale!) to what reptiles, especially snakes which have smoother skin, feel when someone runs the palm of their hand down their body. Most become tolerant to some degree of this, but if you are just accustoming a new reptile to being touched, it's probably a good idea to start off on a good note smile


In this pic above, Darwin is just about tolerating me touching him eek He has his eyes closed because he is trying to block out the situation - he hates it, and would much rather be somewhere else! But it is a good sign that he hasn't run off this time p




A few days later, Darwin is sort of beginning to accept me petting him more 'properly'. I switched to petting him with the 'fatty' side of my fingers a few times, to get him used to the slightly different feeling (as obviously to handle him, I will have to touch him properly). With any reptile though, if you want to 'stroke' it like a cat or a dog for a length of time, please do so with the back of your fingers/hand! It will be much nicer for the reptile smile

Notice I was starting with his head area, then working back to his dewlap and then shoulders, and always to the side. This is to try and reassure him that I'm not trying to attack him (a sudden poke to the hindquarters, leg or tail may seem like something is attempting to take a chunk out of him, and likewise having a hand descend on him from above probably feels like being 'got' by something's talons! nervous) I approached him slowly, so he could see me coming. I also gave him plenty of opportunity to bite, whip or run away from me if he wanted to yikes This was to prove to him that I am more dominant than he is, and that he won't achieve anything by biting me to try and make me go away. If he wanted to run away, I'd let him go to somewhere he was more comfortable such as his highest branch, but then I'd try approaching him again in a few minutes to make sure he didn't think he'd 'won' devil If he realises that biting or running from me results in being left alone, he will probably carry on doing so! bigeyes The earlier picture of him with his eyes shut is a more submissive pose, meaning that everything he has tried has not worked, so he will just pretend I am not there until I leave him alone left right Eventually, he will realise you mean him no harm, will open up his eyes (like in the later photos) and hopefully one day learn to enjoy being petted! happy

Every time when I feed Darwin now, I let him come to me for the food, rather than offer it to him. He will sometimes now approach the open door of the vivarium if I wave a tasty rocket leaf at him! bigsmile

As for trying to get him used to being petted on his back/having a hand approach him and then rest on him, he is getting there slowly. If I tempt him onto my arm with food, he will normally let me pet his back whilst he is happily munching away smile When the food runs out, he sometimes continues sitting there for as long as 10 minutes before deciding to wander off again back to his basking spot or branch. I am hoping that he will learn to associate being petted with nice food, and so not mind it eventually! bigsmile

Iguana taming - stage five

When your iguana is happy(ish!) eating in your presence, and will take food from your hand, you can try stage five of iguana-taming! knight

Try approaching him with some food, first of all. Let him take it, but instead of taking your hand back straight away, leave it there and don't move it. He may start to lick (but hopefully not bite!) your hand, expecting more food to have 'appeared' there. Darwin did this the first time I tried it, he tried to tongue-flick invisible food from my hand into his mouth. Seeing as this wasn't working, he then 'bit' my hand - not really biting, he was just trying to pick up the food he expected to be there with his teeth, seeing as tongue-flicking it didn't work! bigeyes Anyway, just a little note incase this happens, try not to jerk or make a sudden noise or anything, as it will likely scare your iguana off! yikes With your other hand (hopefully before he gets frustrated and walks away! irked) put another piece of food on your hand, but using your free hand that isn't in the vivarium. He should eat it if he's hungry. Keep on doing this a few more times, and then start to position the food further and further away from him but still on your hand, maybe even going up your arm! (Don't feed him too much before you want him to start coming closer to you, as you want him to come to you for the food, not him think: 'Ok I'm full now, thanks very much but coming closer to you right now is not worth it!' p)

If he's comfortable enough with you, and perhaps hunrgy enough if you tempt him with is favourite food(s), he should eventually be brave enough to not even think about coming to you to take the food, even if it means he will voluntarily come into contact with your hand or arm smile

Here is Darwin. He's already eaten a few bits of food out of my hand, so I positioned some watercress further up my arm to try and get him to voluntarily climb onto me. He did, and in this pic he is debating if it's worth getting the food:


He checks nothing might attack him from the air...chef


Starts to become more interested in the food again, and his focus is now on the food:


...and then finally decides it is safe enough to eat it!bigsmile


(Apologies for blurry photo!! whistle)

When he's at this stage and fairly happy to sit there, you can carry on feeding him until he's had enough. When the food runs out, or he stops eating, he has a choice: he can continue to sit there as long as he feels comfortable to, or he can run straight off. Darwin decided to carry on sitting on my hand/arm for a little while this time. He's left wondering what happened, as he's no longer occupied with eating and suddenly realises he's actually sat on a human!!! yikes alien


He lowers himself slightly as he feels a bit scared - iguanas will do this if they feel so threatened that displaying to whatever is intimidating them will have absolutely no effect! In such a case flattening themselves and pretending to be a 'branch' is then the best option left right Neo has done this once, when my mum walked into the room she was in and she wasn't expecting it! Poor Neo actually flattened herself against the top of the chair she was on, and at the same time tried to slide around to the other side to position the chair back between herself and my mum, by extending her fore and rear leg so as to sort of hang at an angle! bigeyes

Darwin takes his time to have a look around, to make sure he's not going to be hurt by anything...


...double checks that I'm not looking like I'm about to attack him... bigeyes


...and then finally, he decides it is ok and nothing looks like it is going to eat him just now. I lift my arm up and towards to door if the vivarium, and I am left holding one little iguana in my hand! happy


I only held him there for a short time, perhaps a few minutes, before putting my hand with him on back on the floor of the vivarium to allow him to walk off if he wanted to. He walked off rather calmly and went up his log. I moved my hand to pull it back out of the vivarium, and Darwin immediately took up a defensive position atop his log! knight ...Just to make sure I knew not to grab him again, I suppose! I think this is purely a reaction he has developed, and hopefully he will let it go eventually wink

Iguana taming - stage four

When your iguana seems happy enough with you opening and closing his vivarium doors, putting your hand inside and moving about normally, moving objects around, coming closer to him, etc, you can start stage 4.

Try offering your iguana some of his favourite food - I found that leaves such as watercress or rocket are good, as the iguana can still take it from you if you hold it by the stalk, without coming into contact with your hand. Eventually you want him to learn that contact is not a bad thing, but initially the feeling of human touch is very alien alien and a little scary for an untame iguana. You can try and get him to actually eat out of your hand a little later on, when he is happy with taking food from you at all.

If your iguana is not hungry, it is likely he will not take food from you at all. The best time to try hand feeding him is in the morning, when he would normally be hungry and want to eat anyway. If he doesn't eat from your hand straight away, wait a while for him to assess the situation. He will be deciding if he is safe, and if taking the food from your hand is worth the risk! If you sit there for ages and nothing happens, or he runs away or closes he eyes to ignore you, leave the leaf next to him and close the vivarium door. Back off a bit, let him adjust back to his comfort level, and he should eat the leaf. Then, once he has got a taste for food, try hand feeding him again.

Wait until he is relaxed:


His dewlap should be relaxed; not extended defensively, knight neither tucked up really tight submissively scared

Offer him the food from below his eye level, and don't rush forward at him with it either. Talk to him gently, let him see that you are holding food, and show him it from a distance. Watch his eye to see if he is interested in it, then move it gradually closer to him.


Just to illustrate a BAD IDEA, the below picture shows what happens of you offer food from above him:


You can see Darwin's dewlap has become extended, and he is feeling uncomfortable with my hand and arm looming above him yikes At that point, I backed off and offered him the food from below him again, as I only wanted to illustrate that point for the blog! (Sorry Darwin, poor thing love) This was what happened next:




I had been working with Darwin for weeks before I got this response every day. If he is not very hungry, he will still not take food from me. Well, neither will Neo for that matter! p But as you can see, this method does seem to be working so far! smile As in the pic, he will sometimes come and half sit in my hand, putting his front two feet on it. This is good, as eventually I will try and encourage him to come and climb on my arm voluntarily, like Neo does bigeyes





Iguana taming - stage three

When your iguana appears to be fairly comfortable in your presence and doesn't run a mile every time you go close to his vivarium, it is time to begin the next stage. Don't be put off though if your iguana seems to go 'back' a stage at any point - he may be having an off day, just doesn't want any interaction that day, seems to 'forget' you aren't that scary, or perhaps he doesn't want to be bothered too much if he's busy basking/needs the toilet, etc.

The next stage is to open the vivarium door slowly. It helps massively if you have a vivarium with a door on the side, rather than at the top, as your iguana is less likely to freak out if he sees you approaching from under or to the side of him, rather than from above. Most predators will come and attack him from above in the wild, so behaving like one isn't a good idea! yikes

Open the door, talk softly to him to try and reassure him you're not a threat. He may be starting to recognise your voice from the time you've spent with him already, and he will have been listening and watching you all that time. Watch his reaction as you open the door: he may freeze, stick out his dewlap and puff himself up, turn sideways on to you to try and whip, or run away and hide. Or any combination of these, in whatever order! bigeyes

Darwin acted defensively at first:


He then sprang onto his log, so he would be in a better position to either fight me or run away from me 'invading his space' knight


He stood like that for a while, and then ran up his log to make himself feel safer as he is up higher:


He is turned sideways on, and is watching me like a hawk ninja Notice his very puffed up appearance of both his body and dewlap, both designed to make him look bigger from sideways on. Iguanas will always try to keep an enemy (or potential enemy!left) sideways on so they can give them a good whip if needs be. That is, if the initial display isn't scary enough to make the threat go away! knockout

The idea now is to get your iguana used to opening and closing his vivarium's door(s) every day, and not just when putting food inside or when going to clean out his vivarium. Do it at random times, so he knows not to get used to when this is, as he might start to realise you do it as soon as you get in from work, or just after you change his water. Maybe do it two to five times extra a day, not so much as to stress him out by doing it every hour yikes but enough to start to get him used to the sounds and movements, so they are not so alien to him.

Gradually, he should realise that the door opening is not a threat, and that you won't try and grab him every time you do this.

When your iguana seems to be 'happy' with you opening and closing his doors, you can try the next step: putting your hand inside the vivarium. Don't make a bee line for him, don't pay him any attention at all. Just keep all movements very slow, don't change direction suddenly, and try and keep below the level of the iguana at all times (or if he's sat on the ground, at least below his eye level). Put your hand flat on the ground inside the vivarium, touch the logs and other things inside there, make different hand movements like curling and extending your fingers, etc so he can see your hand and this will hopefully get him used the types of movements it makes.

Each time you do this, move your hand closer and closer to the iguana when you see he is ready. If he freaks out, you know to back off a bit and keep doing the same thing but just at a distance. Eventually, your iguana should learn that hands aren't 'bad', and won't go to grab him every time they are seen in or near his vivarium smile





Iguana taming - stage two

When your iguana is exploring his vivarium, eating normally and appears comfortable in his new home, you can start to encourage him to trust you.

Begin by acting normally in the room where his vivarium is. Just do what you would normally, walk about relatively slowly, talk softly, pick up various items like books, etc. Don't go right up to the vivarium just yet and glare at him - he will see it as intimidating. Obviously you will have had to go up to the vivarium when putting in food, cleaning the vivarium, etc and this might have been the response:





Going and hiding. Scared iguanas will hide a lot! awww Darwin used to hide whenever I reached in to change his food or water or to clean his vivarium.

You might also see a similar response if you approach the vivarium too closely, and the iguana doesn't feel comfortable with you being that close just yet! knight

The idea is to gradually decrease the distance between you and your iguana, so that he feels ok with you within a few feet of him. It's a good idea to just go and sit close to the vivarium, and read a book, watch t.v. (quietly!), listen to music (again, quietly or with earphones in!) or something like that. Once the iguana realises you are no threat, he may come out from hiding and begin to move around normally again - perhaps to get some food, or go back to his basking spot - as if you weren't in the room. This is a good sign, and from outside of his hiding place he can watch you: this is very important. Iguanas have no idea about human behaviour, such as what is 'normal' and what might be considered a threat. When he is watching you, begin by making very slow movements, and not doing anything sudden or jerky. To him, quick movements are predator-like, and will trigger an automatic response that will cause him to go and hide again! doh In the wild, everything seems to eat baby iguanas, so they are built to respond first and think later. Even if they KNOW you're not a threat to them, they will spring away out of reach, just incase. This is a completely natural, wild instinct, and it is what keeps them alive normally. Iguanas are very intelligent lizards, and will even learn to overcome this reaction (well, most of them do!) over time, as they learn to accept that humans are not a threat to them.

Also, avoid long periods of direct eye contact with your iguana. He will be trying to study you, and a lot of eye contact will be considered a threat. When you are close to his vivarium, make sure your head is always at his height or lower. Looking down at him is also likely to make him nervous. If you're down at his level, it will help him feel more comfortable smile Talk softly to him, use his name, but also talk normally, for example if someone else comes into the room. This is just to get him used to 'normal' levels of speech, so he isn't alarmed if somebody enters the room another time talking about something or another. Iguanas may eventually learn to respond to their owner's voice, and recognise when they are about to enter a room. Sometimes when I arrive home after work, I call to Neo to say hello, and she will respond by getting up from her basking spot and standing up on her rear legs with her front two up against the vivarium's door, asking to be let out, as she knows I will let her out if she's been in there all day! bigsmile

Iguana taming - stage one

I thought I'd do some posts on taming iguanas, as some people had been asking me advice on how to tame new iguanas on various reptile forums on the internet smile

(I'll use 'he' when referring to the iguana, so I don't have to keep typing 'he/she' all the time! p)

Taming methods can be applied to both young and adult iguanas, but depending upon each individual iguana their reaction to each stage and hence the timing of each could vary a lot. The main thing to remember is to be patient with your ig, and give him time to adjust to you. It can be a very stressful time for the ig, who is an essentially 'wild' animal until he learns to trust humans - and he will. Iguanas are intelligent animals and once he realises you aren't going to eat him, he should calm down naturally and 'accept' you to some degree or another. (I only say that because some iguanas who may have been previously mistreated may never fully learn to accept humans, and will be aggressive for the rest of their lives knockout In these cases, some may learn to accept their primary keeper but nobody else).

First of all, iguanas like routine. When one is moved into a new environment, he will not be happy about it sad When you get the iguana home, his vivarium should be already set up correctly for him. An important thing to remember is to provide him with some sort of hide that he can escape to if/when he feels threatened. I gave Darwin a pile of wood which he could hide under, or behind, if he wanted to:



A proper hide that you can buy in most pet or reptile stores would also work, as would a towel, decorative (fake) plant material or anything else suitable (and will not be eaten!) placed over a branch to make a sort of 'tent' where the iguana can hide his entire body. The iguana should be able to feel 'safe' in this spot, and if he runs and hides here, you should leave him there so he feels he is safe and cannot be reached (unless of course you need to catch him to give him a bath, take him to the vets, etc).

Once you put your iguana in his vivarium, leave him be for about two weeks for him to settle in before you try and begin to tame him. This may take a shorter or longer time depending upon your ig's natural temperament. The vivarium should be in a quiet place where people do not pass by all the time and disturb (or alarm) him. Once you see that he is spending more time exploring his vivarium and is not hiding all the time, you can try to start interacting with him more closely.









Winter iguana update

Neo is still not showing any signs of laying eggs, and I have had her out a few times now and had a good feel of her belly and I can feel nothing bigeyes I can only assume that she re-absorbed her eggs this year! I have taken her egg-laying chamber out of her vivarium now, but I'll keep an eye out incase she shows signs of wanting to dig, etc and put it back in again if so. Well, that's a first anyway!

Darwin is still a bit scared, but he is doing well smile He has hand fed from me three days in a row now, and when I offer him a leaf he takes it almost immediately if he wants it, rather than waiting about five minutes to see if it's actually a trick you're playing on him and that if he takes the food, you'll grab him. Either that or he thinks I poisoned it!!! left right

At the moment, both iguanas are enjoying basking in the winter sunshine smile







...and I have realised that both Darwin's and my windows need a clean after the camera and sunlight highlighted all the water marks on them!! yikes