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Lessons From A Weekend of Prayer

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Our church has just completed, as a part of its 13th birthday celebrations, a weekend of prayer. The idea is that for a 36 hour period from 9 pm Friday to 9 am Sunday we have the church open and we ask people to sign up for an hour or more to come to the church and pray.

I was really blessed when it turned out that we were able to cover every hour of that period in prayer. With a few people away, I knew that it might be a challenge, but we got there.

I was really blown away when I discovered that nearly two thirds of the prayer coverage was by men. I often hear pastors say that it's hard to get men's ministry going in a church. Well my answer to that is get the men to do the ministry. Give them a challenge, an important- even heroic - role and they will rise to it. Get them to commit to coming to church at 3 am just to pray alone and you will have a men's ministry happening right there!

Part of the challenge of this weekend was to bind the spirit of lawlessness that is being manifest in our community in dozens of ways at the moment. I believe that we did that by taking on a challenging discipline and being victorious in it.

We've often said, as have dozens of visitors, that there is an anointing of peace on our building. I experienced that powerfully this morning as I was praying. At one stage as I was praying with Troy, we suddenly both became silent and sat down and we felt this wonderful blanket of peace descend. The presence of God deeply restored our spirits as we sat there and received from Him.

It's been a great weekend. There have been many prophecies, drawings and a song written over this time.

God is good!

God Is Moving!

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This morning's worship was the most awe-inspiring time that I have experienced in ages.

Outwardly there wasn't anything obvious, but I felt there was a strong presence of God, an anointing in the praise time that I haven't felt for some time. It's hard to define but somehow I feel God is moving among us.

No miracles, no angels-- just a strong affirmation that God is in this place.

I was really touched by the boys grabbing flags to wave, Sarah dancing and other spontaneous expressions of praise. It was as if they all wanted to get in on the worship action!

Rozina's sermon about the levels of forgiveness was great, and well worth downloading and listening to.

I love being in church!
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Why Cell Church?


New Life is categorised as a cell church which means that we place as much emphasis on cell groups as on Sunday mornings.

Joel Comiskey gives some theological reasons as to why cell church is the "natural" form of church


Why Cell Church?   by Joel Comiskey

Whycell church? Why do we believe in it? Is it because David Cho’s church, the largest church in the history of Christianity, is a cell church? Is it because someone said the number 12 will bring blessings and growth? Is it because cell church is the strategy that many “great” churches are using?

The problem with the above reasons is that they don’t give long-term foundational strength. God has been showing me lately that theology must guide our strategies–and not the other way around. So what are the core theological reasons for doing cell church? Allow me to share three important ones:

1. The Trinity

Our God is a social God! He lives in relationship with the other members of the Trinity. God is not an independent, lone ranger. Individualism might be the cultural norm in the western world, but God loves community and unity (think of all the one-anothers in the Bible). One of the key values of cell church is that people need to live in community rather than hide in anonymity. The intimacy of a cell group encourages people to know and be known.

The Trinity is also an outreaching God. Evangelism flows from His very heart. God’s will is to reach lost people through His Son, Jesus, and the church is His instrument to make it happen. The cell church teaches each member must reach out through relational evangelism. Cells expect all members to develop relationships with non-Christians because such activity reflects the heart of God.

2. Priesthood of all believers

It’s quite easy for people to sit in church. Some churches grow large through filling pews. Yet, Scripture teaches that all believers are priests. Cells value the participation of every believer.

Part of the priesthood of all believers is the use of spiritual gifts. My books, The Spirit-filled Small Group and Discover, talk about how cells are the best atmosphere for spiritual gift use. In fact, all of the New Testament gift passages were written to house churches. Cell churches are rediscovering this important truth.

3. Making disciples

Christ’s last command to His disciples was to make disciples of all nations. I believe the essence of cell ministry is making disciples who make disciples. Cells are leader breeders and the best place to prepare disciple-makers. Multiplication is at the heart of cell ministry because new cells provide the environment for making new disciples.

On this blog, I often highlight large, growing cell churches or church planting movements. But such examples shouldn’t be our principal reason for doing cell church. The best reason is because cell church promotes key theological concepts and brings glory to the living God.

Why do you do cell church? Or, perhaps you’d like to add a theological concept not listed here. . . .

Joel

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Ministry in the Kingdom Age

Ray Ashmore writes:

By Ray Ashmore

ImageC.S Lewis wrote an essay once called “Meditation in a Tool Shed.” In it he described his being in an old tool shed. The door was closed and light was streaming through the cracks in the door. By the light he saw the inside of the shed, the dust particles floating in the air, the tools, dirt, and cobwebs in the shed. Then he moved to the door and stood in the light. By it he could see through the crack to the outside. He could see the blue of the skies and the clouds floating gently by. His point, of course, was that by observation we can see one way and by experience we see another way.

We are now moving from the church age in the kingdom age, a season where God completes His gathering work and prepares His bride for the wedding to come. From this kingdom age perspective He has raised up apostles and prophets to reveal His work to the church. These are Kingdom leaders. They are few in number and not at all well known. But by their experience and the revelation they've received, they, like the Sons of Issachar (1 Chronicles 12:32), have an understanding of their times. They have, as C.S. Lewis illustrates, stood in the light of God's calling and experienced what others have not--revelation of the times we're in.
Then there are other prophets who talk about the kingdom, who have a doctrinal understanding of the kingdom, and who see the new kingdom age from their observation of it, but who have not been called by God to stand in the light of kingdom revelation. These are church age prophets. They minister God's word and reveal God's will to fellow believers and accomplish God's purpose for them in this life. They are necessary agents of God in these transitional times. They have some degree of kingdom age understanding, but it's by observation, not by calling.

Most of the biggest names in apostolic and prophetic circles are these--church age prophets. They've accomplished much for God and have led His church to the river of crossing, but they themselves will not be able to cross over and prophesy from a kingdom age experience.

Now I ask you, should we disparage the work of these church age apostles and prophets? No. Did Joshua minimize the work of Moses? No. There are seasons and there are seasons. There are leaders and there are leaders. There are prophets and there are prophets.

The only major criticism that I can direct toward these well-known men and women of God is that some of them hear and pass on some aspects of kingdom understanding, adopting the message and adapting it to their ministries, but they refuse to acknowledge their place and calling, and refuse to yield to new leadership. They have become more career-focused than cause-focused. And they're beginning to proclaim the kingdom message as if it were their own.

Think of this: What if Moses had stubbornly rejected Joshua's calling and insisted on leading the people himself? Did he? No. But unlike Moses, these present-day apostles and prophets are cliquish, jealously protective of one another, and refuse to acknowledge their own calling's limitations in these days. It is because of this behavior that they, themselves, disparage their own ministries.

So, what response should kingdom age servants of God have toward these church age leaders? Very little. Kingdom age leaders must not get caught up in protracted squabbles that divert attention away from their primary callings. After all, one leader's value as Christ's servant is no greater than the value of another leader. It's just a matter of the times we're in, that's all. We must always remember, Christ yields His Lordship to no man. No exceptions.

A Bridge to the Community?

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Mega-church North Point Community Church in  Georgia, USA wants to build a $5 million bridge to ease parking congestion.
$5 Million Bridge to Somewhere: Tie it to the Purpose

Let's Build a Bridge

Church building campaigns can be hard for congregations to swallow. But how about building a $5 million bridge to ease parking congestion for a church?

That's what North Point Community Church outside Atlanta, Ga., is doing with their Let's Build a Bridge campaign. When I first saw it I literally thought it was a joke. As the opening copy explained:

Are you tired of sitting in the parking lot for twenty minutes after church? Do you hesitate to invite friends to church because of the complexity of getting on and off our campus? Have you ever skipped the closing song to beat the crowds to lunch?

Therefore North Point needs a $5 million, three-lane bridge that spans 1,000 feet of floodplain and wetlands. It's no joke. As North Point pastor Andy Stanley explains, this has been nine years in the making.

Church Marketing Sucks: $5 Million Bridge to Somewhere: Tie it to the Purpose

This raises lots of questions for me:

Is church attendance really the goal of what the church should be about?

What sort of disciples is the church producing if  skipping the last song for the sake of getting home early is a common practice?

What does this church imagine fellowship or community building is about?

Has the church as corporation overtaken the body as community?

How does any church position itself as a different form of organism if it just replicates what other human groups do?

This isn't a snipe at a particular big church in America. These are questions we have to face at every size of congregation- whether you have 20 people or 2,000 people the questions must be faced up to, particularly when a congregation is growing.


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Missional Church

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Catholic Christening

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Margaret and I went to the christening/ baptism of Caleb Loder this morning and enjoyed a very pleasant lunch and afternoon at the Loders' place.

It's the first time I've heard Father Vic preach, although we've talked informally numerous times. He very carefully explained the symbols of water, light, oil and white clothing. He also explained that baptism is a sacrament which carries the grace of Christ to the baby and represents the start of a walk with Christ. Just as enrolling in a school does not guarantee that you finish, baptism does not guarantee that you get to heaven.

Nicely done, I thought, and a sermon which would be at home in any evangelical church that practises infant baptism (or even adult baptism for that matter).

Faith or Fear

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Dan Edelen writes:



If you asked me what I thought was the general feeling sweeping the contemporary Church in America, I wouldn’t hesitate for a second. It’s fear.

Each day, my email inbox fills with messages of conspiracy, worries of persecution, legal rights abridgments, last days mania, and so on. What troubles me most is that I don’t ever get these messages from unbelievers but only from the Body of Christ.

If I were a visitor from another planet come to investigate the blue planet Earth, my assessment of American Christians would be that they are the most frightened people on the planet and that large chunks of their day are spent worrying about one threat after another. To find a reason for this, I would, being a good alien sociologist, consult their holy books to learn the reason for their fears.

That holy book, to my surprise, says this:

The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The LORD is the stronghold of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? When evildoers assail me to eat up my flesh, my adversaries and foes, it is they who stumble and fall. Though an army encamp against me, my heart shall not fear; though war arise against me, yet I will be confident.
—Psalms 27:1-3

God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. Therefore we will not fear though the earth gives way, though the mountains be moved into the heart of the sea, though its waters roar and foam, though the mountains tremble at its swelling. Selah
—Psalms 46:1-3

He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will abide in the shadow of the Almighty. I will say to the LORD, “My refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust.” For he will deliver you from the snare of the fowler and from the deadly pestilence. He will cover you with his pinions, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness is a shield and buckler. You will not fear the terror of the night, nor the arrow that flies by day, nor the pestilence that stalks in darkness, nor the destruction that wastes at noonday. A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you.
—Psalms 91:1-7

The LORD is on my side; I will not fear. What can man do to me?
—Psalms 118:6

The fear of man lays a snare, but whoever trusts in the LORD is safe.
—Proverbs 29:25

Do not call conspiracy all that this people calls conspiracy, and do not fear what they fear, nor be in dread.
—Isaiah 8:12

Strengthen the weak hands, and make firm the feeble knees. Say to those who have an anxious heart, “Be strong; fear not! Behold, your God will come with vengeance, with the recompense of God. He will come and save you.”
—Isaiah 35:3-4

…Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand….For I, the LORD your God, hold your right hand; it is I who say to you, “Fear not, I am the one who helps you.”
—Isaiah 41:10,13

“Blessed is the man who trusts in the LORD, whose trust is the LORD. He is like a tree planted by water, that sends out its roots by the stream, and does not fear when heat comes, for its leaves remain green, and is not anxious in the year of drought, for it does not cease to bear fruit.”
—Jeremiah 17:7-8

Do not fear the king of Babylon, of whom you are afraid. Do not fear him, declares the LORD, for I am with you, to save you and to deliver you from his hand.
—Jeremiah 42:11

You came near when I called on you; you said, ‘Do not fear!’
—Lamentations 3:57

And he said, “O man greatly loved, fear not, peace be with you; be strong and of good courage.” And as he spoke to me, I was strengthened and said, “Let my lord speak, for you have strengthened me.”
—Daniel 10:19

Fear not, O land; be glad and rejoice, for the LORD has done great things!
—Joel 2:21

“Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life? And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin, yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. “Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.”
—Matthew 6:25-34

“When they deliver you over, do not be anxious how you are to speak or what you are to say, for what you are to say will be given to you in that hour.”
—Matthew 10:19

“Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? And not one of them will fall to the ground apart from your Father. But even the hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not, therefore; you are of more value than many sparrows.”
—Matthew 10:29-31

But overhearing what they said, Jesus said to the ruler of the synagogue, “Do not fear, only believe.”
—Mark 5:36

“I tell you, my friends, do not fear those who kill the body, and after that have nothing more that they can do.”
—Luke 12:4

“Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom….”
—Luke 12:32

“Fear not, daughter of Zion; behold, your king is coming, sitting on a donkey’s colt!”
—John 12:15

For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!”
—Romans 8:15

Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.
—Philippians 4:6-7

…for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.
—2 Timothy 1:7

Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.” So we can confidently say, “The Lord is my helper; I will not fear; what can man do to me?”
—Hebrews 13:5-6

Now who is there to harm you if you are zealous for what is good? But even if you should suffer for righteousness’ sake, you will be blessed. Have no fear of them, nor be troubled,
—1 Peter 3:13-14

Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and for ten days you will have tribulation. Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life.
—Revelation 2:10


And being an alien sociologist, I would conclude that while Christians say they believe their holy book, they seem to leave plenty of room not to believe it when confronted with certain realities.

I would also note that while many portions of that holy book speak of fear, the majority of those references are to fearing the Christian God—though I would suspect, given the rest of the verses about Him, that this kind of fear is more reverential awe.

So I would scratch my scaled head with one tentacle and wonder about this strange religion that doesn’t believe its own holy book and seems to be more fearful of people, events, and man-made devices and schemes than the God of that same religion.

Stepping out of my overused illustration, I have to ask what the unbeliever thinks of all this fear coming out of the Christian camp in America. Isn’t it a turnoff? I mean, where is the comfort of faith that Christianity affords? Heck, if I were an unbeliever, what kind of witness do I receive when I hear talk from Christians that Congress is even now sharpening the blades on all those guillotines they’ve got stored away in some warehouse in North Dakota in preparation to remove a bunch of Christian heads? What sense do I get that Christians are any less fearful than the general populace (and perhaps even more fearful, when you get down to it)? Why would I want to have anything to do with Christianity?

All this fearmongering also makes us look ignorant, because in most cases those fears are unfounded. My email inbox fills with one warning after another, fear after fear, that a simple check of Snopes.com or FactCheck.org would prove to be a hoax, one that only makes us look silly for going off half-cocked. But then there’s the folks who believe that Snopes and Fact Check are in on the conspiracies…

Still, what is the worst that might happen? That we die and go to be with Christ our Lord, where we reign forever and ever with Him in glory? Does that sound awful? Or do we not believe our own message?

Here’s the truth: every person dies. Then why all the fear?

I’d say that this is a crisis of faith within the American Church, but as I’ve grown older in the Lord, I realize a different truth:

So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. By this is love perfected with us, so that we may have confidence for the day of judgment, because as he is so also are we in this world. There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
—1 John 4:16-18



The genuine crisis here is one of abiding in God and in His love. We don’t often think of love as the opposite of fear, but I would offer that the more we love God and love others, the less room exists for fear. As John notes, love is so big that it squeezes out any place for fear. Which proves what I have seen in my life: The most loving people I have known are also the least fearful.

So the word I have for the Church today is this: Love, don’t fear. If we spend time serving God and others in love, we won’t have time to worry, to read the latest fearful headlines in the newspaper, or to forward yet another conspiratorial email that only sends weak people’s shaky knees a-knocking.

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Traditional Catholicism and Contemporary Evangelicalism

A commenter at internet monk wrote this profound comment on the state of contemporary evangelicalism/pentecostalism:

The wedge contemporary evangelicals are driving between young and old is incredibly short sighted and deadly. Doesn’t the Bible itself say that the older should teach the younger? We’ve turned things around so that anything new (even if unproven) and appealing to the not yet mature, still developing young is trotted out as appropriate worship. More experienced, mature Christians who should be teaching the young about and sharing with them their great Christian heritage are instead asked to “get with it” or “get out.” The evangelical church will die if all it can do is try to keep up with secular culture and make its focus offering whatever the latest fads or glitz it can to “attract” the young as if the church were somehow dependent on a Christian advertising machine rather than God to draw people to Him.

I took Denise to morning mass at Stella Maris (”Star of the Sea”) Roman Catholic Church in Moultrieville, SC. Almost 50 in attendance, of every age. Two priests. Two acolytes and two altar boys. Traditionalist. Ad orientem. Eucharist offered in one kind and most didn’t receive it in the hand. Lots of other traditionalist stuff happening. Several Latin masses during the month. All the little things.

I’m watching a father bring his 5 year old (?) to mass, take his hand and dip it in the water, make the cross for him, then take him to his seat and show him how to genuflect. Teenagers around me- apparently on retreat- are immersed in the various actions of Catholic worship, as are all the worshipers of every age this morning. Of course, adults of every age. Plenty of men. At least half or more of the congregation was male.

The traditionalist flavor of mass is more interesting to me, even in this low mass on a weekday, and I’ve read Ratzinger’s Spirit of the Liturgy and know where these priests are coming from. There’s a sign at the entrance to the church saying the parish can’t register any more members from outside their boundaries. Translation: traditionalism is popular down here in Charleston.

The whole idea of the daily mass, and the level of devotion one sees among so many Catholics such as those surrounding me, has to be of real interest to any post-evangelical. Evangelicalism is diverse, but as a movement it is simply engaging less and less with worship, spiritual formation, spiritual disciplines and any form of tradition. The multi-site, internet driven model combined with evangelicalism’s inherent pragmatism and entrepreneurialism makes one wonder if clicking at the computer terminal or taking in the 20 minute drive up/drop in service can be far away as significant models of evangelical Christianity’s virtues.

I am especially impressed with how a small child and an 80 year old man are functioning within the same world of thought, ritual and understanding. Within evangelicalism, we have communities with strong elements of tradition that bind generations together, but overall, we have compromised this to the core, allowing the quest to make the faith acceptable to teenagers to define the style and substance of everything. Where has evangelicalism gone in the last 60 years? Toward maturity and the core of the faith, or toward the latest efforts to be relevant to the young? The old among us are often those who manage to hang on amidst a hurricane of changes.

I see evangelicals doing less and less that will hold anyone in the faith into their 80s. If I were 80, I wouldn’t go near 99% of evangelical churches. The traditionalists somewhere would have me as a customer.

One oddity. No crucifix up front. One on the altar (well, slightly above it), but no large crucifix at the front anywhere. Central figures: Madonna and Child. Is this unusual? I thought the crucified Jesus visually up front was the usual.

In one publication, the priest said that young people are hyper-connected to one another via technology, but unconnected to God. The church must offer that connection in its mass. Quite a provocative take on the purpose of all of this. No surprise how I feel about it, but he is saying that the church’s great role is to be that which connects us to God. You have to deal with that, because he is right about young people, but can the Protestant Gospel offer the connection to God without the church in the role of mediator? If not, then Catholicism makes a lot of sense.

I could never be a Roman Catholic for theological reasons that won’t change, but if I were, this traditionalist-flavored variety would be quite appealing.



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Real Worship is Demanding.

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The problem that many have with God is that we are so self-obsessed that we have never learned to take our eyes off ourselves for even one minute.

We spend our lives looking after our own comfort, standing on our own two feet, demanding our rights. Never does it occur to us that someone else might have a greater right to our attention and our allegiance.

Even amongst those who claim to be christians, many have only ever responded to God by asking Jesus into their heart to either escape the fear of hell or to ensure a more prosperous life now.

Worship is something that is so difficult because it demands that we offer ourselves- body, mind,soul- to another. Worship demands that we take the focus off ourselves and look deeply into the eyes of the one who has purchased us with His own life.

Ironically all of the attempts by the church to make worship easier get in the way precisely at this point. When we invest megabucks on lighting or sound or air-conditioning or creche, or when we produce inoffensive "seeker-sensitive" services, or develop a preaching message that pretends that Jesus is our great servant, then the church is conspiring with the fleshly demands of unconverted sinners in keeping the attention firmly directed to self.

To be honest, I don't know where the line is between maximising the participation of worshippers by minimising distractions and just simply pandering to fleshly comfort.

It's probably safe to assume that true worshippers will worship God in 0 degrees or 40 degrees, in wooden pews or padded chairs, with ye olde hymns played by an 80 year old organist with cataracts or a hip young band playing Hillsong. The same true worshippers will be equally jubilant in a home group as in the big celebration. They will rejoice in economic booms and recession, in war and in peace, in sickness and in health.

When God calls you to worship, are you looking at Him or at you?

Towards A Meaningful Liturgy

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Michael Spencer, the internet monk has been writing a very thoughtful series on evangelical liturgy. He's coming from a U.S. Southern Baptist tradition and is trying to engage his denomination with the need to develop depth of Biblical understanding and practice.

Since their experience is very similar to the practice in many Australian contemporary churches, including New Life, I thought it appropriate to share it here.

The Evangelical Liturgy 6: The Call to Worship

August 25, 2009 by iMonk

“Ascribe to the Lord the glory of His name; bring an offering, and come into His courts. Worship the Lord in holy attire; Tremble before Him, all the earth. Say among the nations, “The Lord reigns; indeed, the world is firmly established, it will not be moved; He will judge the peoples with equity.” Let the heavens be glad, and let the earth rejoice; Let the sea roar, and all it contains; let the field exult, and all that is in it. Then all the trees of the forest will sing for joy before the Lord, for He is coming; for He is coming to judge the earth. He will judge the world in righteousness, and the peoples in His faithfulness.”

No element of the evangelical liturgy is as clearly Biblical as the call to worship. It is deeply rooted in Biblical language, Biblical history and Biblical theology.

God’s call is fundamental to the general announcement of salvation and the specific work of the Holy Spirit in the life of the believer. God’s call creates, gathers and identifies. It invests an ordinary gathering with the significance of the people of God entering into the presence and purpose of God in worship.

The call to worship is a re-enacting of fundamental and highly significant aspects of the life of the individual and corporate people of God. We are called to God, called to worship, called to mission and called to present attentiveness to the Word and its work among us. We are called to think of God and to hear his commands and invitations.

In my own experience, there is a sense of betrayal that happens when a worship service fails to include a formal call to worship. The informality of many evangelical services is spiritually discouraging, leaving the worshiper with no corporate experience of God calling him/her to attention and the glad work of worship. It is as if we have simply been put together with no purpose any more significant than to do the next thing we are asked to do on someone’s list. Our identity, our “calling” into the experiences of praise, prayer and worship has been forgotten or completely overlooked. There’s something profoundly wrong with the relatively meaningless beginnings to many evangelical worship services.



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Please don't confuse this with worship

Yes it's music and Jesus gets a mention, but I don't think this really qualifies as praise or worship- and no we will not be doing this on any Thursday night any time soon.

Divisions begin with the heterodox

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Jared Wilson talks about the divisions being promoted by one group in the church.

I guess some half-wit will call me homophobic again.

Division Begins with the Heterodox

The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America has voted to allow congregations' appointing of homosexual clergy in non-chaste same-sex relationships.

I am not wringing my hands.

This is not a rant about homosexual behavior (which I believe is a sin, in case anyone's wondering). It is about what happens in evangelical discourse when these sorts of things are discussed.

When concerned folks raise voices of protest and warning, when they say adamantly "This isn't right," they are accused of singling out the sin of homosexuality for special treatment, laser-focusing in on the homosexual as a sinner above all sinners, worse than the rest of us.

But I actually think it's sort of the other way around. It is the proponents of gay clergy who single out homosexuality. It is they who are pressing us to respond to this issue. Nobody is pushing for resolutions on the allowance of adulterous clergy, of gossipy clergy, of alcoholic clergy, of p()rn-addicted clergy, or what-have-you.

It is not those who protest who are singling out this sin. It is the proponents of the sin as normative -- or at least, passable -- who are singling it out.

This reminds me of where we got our creeds -- the original stands for normative truth -- in the first place. They were subsequent to heresy. It took heretics to promote their particular heterodoxy for the Church to say, "Supposing we summed up orthodox doctrine as a standard of sorts?"

And so it wasn't the crafters of the creeds who were being divisive. It was the heterodox.
Just as it wasn't God who was being divisive when he said, "Don't eat from this tree," but it was the serpent who introduced the option of disobedience.

And it isn't those who believe the Bible when it says homosexual behavior is a sin that are being divisive; it is those who are introducing the idea that it isn't. If you push a decision on something that innovates on the Bible's testimony, you're creating the division. But, sure, many of us will oblige in parting ways with you. If pressed -- as when votes like this go the way they did -- we will cooperate in division.



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What Does Your Worship Space Say About Your Church?

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I've been thinking a bit about what a worship space says about a particular congregation and what they value. My thinking is prompted by the fact that I am not really happy about the way our worship space is currently arranged.

In a Catholic Church, it is clear that the altar is the dominant feature and that is because the Catholic Church places ultimate value on the sacrament of Holy Communion as the main focus of worship.

In many Protestant churches the pulpit is the dominant feature, representing the fact that the preaching of the Word is the focus of worship. A large Bible usually also takes pride of place as this is the dominant authority for all preaching.

In contemporary churches, there is often a more flexible arrangement, but again the dominant physical items represent the emphasis of that congregation.

For example, in churches that are inspired by music, then the band will be the dominant feature, usually located on a high stage with the instruments in places of honour all overseen by the projection screen. The term worship will become a synonym for music.

In most churches the seats are arranged in rows pointed to the front which means that the focus is on an anointing which flows from the leaders to the congregation who have no need to ever relate to one another.

So in our church building at the moment I see the following:

* we have rows rather than groups around tables.
* the music has taken up pride of place.
* we have a low table for communion because we value the input of little people in the sacrament, not because we devalue the sacrament. The communion table is easily pushed out of the centre when it becomes "inconvenient".
* a major factor in our placing of furniture is the need to facilitate other ministries such as the prams and the bookshop. These are important our each activities, but there is always a tension between the need to relate to the community and the need to facilitate our worship.
* a large banner encourages us to follow Jesus

As a church family, we value interactive worship styles. We value our interaction with those who are not yet a part of our faith community. We value contemporary worship styles, without being a slave to them. We value the Word of God- written and preached. We value the input of all people including children.

There are conflicts between all of these competing values. Too often the pragmatic need of just fitting everything in pre-empts all of these values, which is a sign of the culture in which we live where technology (what works) trumps art (what is valued for its own sake).

We have found in the past, for example, that the bookshop threatened to take over the worship area and we had to re-evaluate our layout before the bookshop completely took over the building.

As I've said many times in the last month or so, our current arrangement is temporary, a work in progress. Some time soon we might get something close to reasonable!




Who is in your small group?

From The Word For Today:

God-encounters
"'They...went through the towns, preaching.'"
Luke 9:6

One night a man walking to church saw four boys hanging out on a street corner, so he invited them to go with him. They did, and they went back again the following Sunday. Actually, these four boys became the nucleus of the Sunday school class he began to teach. Years later his friends decided to contact the four boys, see what had happened to them, and invite each to write a special birthday letter to be read at a surprise party for their old teacher. Their letters were real eye openers. One boy had become a missionary to China, one was president of the US Federal Reserve Bank, one was the private secretary to President Herbert Hoover, and the fourth was - President Hoover himself.

Sometimes your small encounters are God-encounters that take place when you're busy with other things or on your way to somewhere else. If you're not prepared you'll miss a real blessing, a chance to grow and an opportunity to put God's interests ahead of your own.

Jesus left the comfort of Heaven to walk the road of human need. You'll notice He didn't set up a throne in each town and say, 'This is My place, if you want to see Me come here.' No, He went to the marketplace. He went to the boats of fishermen. He went to the homes of ordinary people. The Bible says that Jesus and His disciples 'went through the towns, preaching the gospel.' So the moment your compassion is activated, stop. What seems like a small encounter may be a God-encounter, and produce results you never dreamed possible.



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Groping Towards A New Style of Community

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Last Sunday, I was surprised by my reaction to Rozina's question about Solomon and his wisdom. I was finding it hard to cope with the myriad demands of being a pastor on a Sunday morning. I'm not sure whether it was a physical thing or a spiritual attack but I found Sunday very stressful.

So when the sermon was interrupted by a question that I had no immediate answer to, I felt rather frustrated. The sermon was about getting wisdom, but the question was about failing of wisdom and I had no immediate answer to the question.

Anyway, that experience and some comments made by Michael Spencer in his podcast (www.internet.com) about teaching styles in the church, somehow forced me to a realisation of the tension in which we as a community live.

The tension is that God has called us to do a "new thing" with no description of what that looks like or a map of how to get there.

One thing I do know is that our expression of community has to be very different to anything currently available in the contemporary expressions of church. Community, christian style, has to be very different to

  • the pastor-centric authoritarian models common in Pentecostal circles
  • the institution-centric model of the Catholic Church
  • the pseudo-democratic approach of many mainline Protestant churches.


The style of worship also has to be different to what is currently practised in most churches.

I am very aware that what we do now is only a temporary arrangement,

On my best days, I welcome interactive discussion-style sermons. That's why each week I publish my personal reflections on each of the lectionary readings for the following Sunday. I also try to encourage a discussion on those readings in our facebook group.

I think that people learn best when we engage with Scripture as a community, working out together their implications for us. Unfortunately that is very hard work for the leader, and for it to work effectively, it needs the leader/preacher to really have their wits about them, providing guidance without completely dominating the discussion. If the preacher is not up to the mental/spiritual discernment necessary for the task that day, it's all too easy to fall back into the didactic rhetorical approach of just telling people the message for the day.

This all works well in a medium sized group, but how to do it in a much larger group? How do we engage in creative responses to scripture in ways which speak to the varying learning styles that people have? How do we structure our whole worship space to best use the gifts of all of our people?

There is a balance in all of this. We need some information in order to be able to contribute meaningfully to a discussion. There are times when the preacher has to nicely tell people that it's time to listen. There are also times when the best thing for a preacher to do is just shut up himself and let the rest of the community work it out together.

It's wonderfully easy when we have the capacity to just package up a particular format for each week, where people know that their role is just to absorb the anointing being imparted by the pastor.

I'm not so sure that leads to genuine growth in faith for anyone involved.

So we grope towards a new form of community. Some times it will be wonderful and other times less than ordinary. But it's all a part of the journey Jesus has called us to.

Equipping the Saints: What We Must Expect…and When

Dan Edelen sets some standards for disciple development.

Equipping the Saints: What We Must Expect…and When
August 10, 2009
Posted by Dan Edelen


When I follow trends in church programming, read other Christian blogs, engage Christian leaders, or read what Christians are saying in social media venues, I come to one inescapable conclusion: We Christians have little or no understanding of what constitutes a Christian worldview. Doctrine eludes us. Discipleship is something we do when we have time for it—and between shopping, working, and vacations, none of us supposedly has time. Far, far too many of us don’t know the foundational truths of the Faith we supposedly confess.

We don’t know what the Gospel is. We don’t know what the Bible says about important issues of life. We don’t know why Christ came, or how to know Him, or why He’s the only Way. We don’t know our eschatology or why it even matters. We don’t even know why our service matters. We simply don’t know what we’re talking about.

I’m an avid birder (birdwatcher being the antiquated term) with more than 30 years experience in that field. I can ID 85 percent of North American Birds on sight, but when it comes to my region of the country, that number approaches 100 percent. Any birder can be fooled, yes, but I know my region’s avians.

If I meet a guy who introduces himself as a fellow Ohio birder with similar multi-decade experience, a certain expectation exists. If this guy tells me he was just down at the lake the other day and saw an albatross, I’m going to think, Mr. Experienced Birder’s skills are about as sharp as a sack of wet mice. If he adds that he saw a Carolina Parakeet, too, then I know his credibility is bupkis. It doesn’t matter what he may say his credentials are, he’s doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

In truth, I can pretty much tell you how long people have been birding just by watching their ID methodology, their ability to talk out difficult IDs, and their willingness to admit they may not have gotten a good enough look at that last bird for a positive ID.

What’s scary to me is that it’s far harder to tell how long people gave been Christians by watching their behavior or asking them simple questions about the faith. It should be obvious, but it’s not. There should never be a reason—ever—for us to encounter a “seasoned” Christian and come away thinking that disciple is about as sharp as a sack of wet mice. And yet we have those people in abundance in our pews on Sunday.

What does that say about the way we American Christians disciple converts to maturity?

Honestly, what should be expected of a convert to Christianity at one, three, five, ten, and twenty years after that conversion?

I don’t know why Christian leaders are not asking this eternal-life-and-death question. It may be THE most important question to ask!

How would I answer that question? Well, below I give a “tip of the iceberg” list of five essentials per milestone year.

At one year, every convert to Christ should:

Have read through the entire New Testament once

Have completed a very basic theology class taught by pastoral staff that teaches core doctrines of Christianity

Know why Jesus is the sole source of salvation and be able to articulate that belief with supporting Scriptures

Be in a Bible study led by a mature Christian who knows the Scriptures and can communicate them effectively

Be participating in a church-sponsored service, teaching, or outreach program

At three years, every convert to Christ should:

Have read through the entire Bible at least once

Have completed an intermediate theology class taught by pastoral staff that covers a wider range of important doctrines, including any denominational distinctives

Be able to articulate what the Gospel is, with supporting Scriptures

Be participating in a church-sponsored class that gives an overview of the Bible and covers the major themes in each of the 66 books

Be serving as an understudy to a leader in a church-sponsored service, teaching, or outreach program

At five years, every convert to Christ should:

Be able to provide an overview of the major themes of each book of the Bible and exhibit a Christian worldview that understands the arc of creation, fall, redemption, and restoration

Have completed an advanced theology class that emphasizes apologetics and the finer nuances of Christian doctrine, including those that may be different from the church’s denominational distinctives

Understand the core teachings of at least one non-Christian religion or cult and how to rebut them

Be participating in a church-sponsored leadership class

Be serving as a co-leader in a church-sponsored service, teaching, or outreach program

At ten years, every convert to Christ should:

Be capable of teaching/leading one of the previously mentioned theology/Bible classes or a small group

Be commissioned as a church representative, capable of representing the church in ecumenical and interchurch events

Have helped to lead at least a half dozen people to Christ

Be discipling new converts

Be leading a church-sponsored service, teaching, or outreach program and be encouraged to start new ones to fill gaps in the church’s programs

At twenty years, every convert to Christ should:

Hold a church office or leadership position

Be able to identify spiritual gifts in others and mentor those people in those gifts

Be mentoring younger leaders

Be actively designing service, teaching, or outreach programs for the church

Be capable of planting a new church or serving on the mission field

I look at that list and wonder how any part of it can be deemed unreasonable. And if it’s not unreasonable, why are our churches not doing it?

It took me fifteen minutes to conceive the list above. One person, fifteen minutes.

If we want to know why the Church in America is making no inroads into reaching lost and broken people, we don’t have to go any further than the list above. If we want to know why our people are dull, listless, and incapable of articulating the Faith, look again at the list and see how our church educational programs compare.

What’s truly distressing is that anyone with a hobby he enjoys knows the path to becoming an expert in that hobby. She knows what is required to be the best she can be at her hobby. And he and she pursue that excellence too.

Knowing Jesus and serving Him is far, far above being a hobby. Yet we treat it like one. In fact, because so few people are experts at it, we may be treating Christianity as less than a hobby. A dabbling perhaps. Something we do between syndicated episodes of Scrubs or when it doesn’t interfere with shopping or a round on the links.

No reason exists why we can’t institute attainable educational standards for converts that assist them to maturity. None.

We have no excuses.

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I've just uploaded some photos that Josh and I took at our recent seminar and procession.

Click here to view the album or check out my facebook page.



Rev. Paul Zahl- On Homosexual Practice in the Episcopal Church

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I just came across this excellent talk given by Rev. Paul Zahl from the Episcopalian Church of the USA about the theological issues raised by ordination of actively homosexual people. It's not about homophobia, discrimination or anything else other than theology. As Zahl clearly argues in this article, there are some theological absolutes which, if ditched, reduce the church to unitarianism and away from the need for salvation.

I got a fair bit of abuse from one person who was more inspired by the chip on her shoulder than by what was written in a previous article I posted about homosexuality in the church. I'm not harping on a particular group of people here, but the fact is that the church world-wide has to come to terms with the fact that we can't just line up with what the world says is right when that contradicts scripture.

This is from internetmonk.com:

So I shall begin this brief keynote address summing up the actual reasons why traditional Episcopalians are opposed to the consecration of Gene Robinson and are also opposed to the blessing in the church of same-sex unions. I won’t harp on this, but feel the reasons need to be acknowledged, publicly, and theologically. It is not fair to call people on the traditional side “homophobic”. Of course homophobia is possible, but it is also a terrible slur in the contemporary context. It is like the word “anti-semitic”. It halts all discourse. Full stop. And it destroys people and careers. Homophobia and anti-semitism are real things. But as words, they are used overmuch today to tar and dismiss voices that may in fact be sincere and liberal.

So what is the big deal? Why do people like me stand against the Gene Robinson consecration and the blessing of same-sex unions? Why do we feel these two things are destructive of life in the Christian church? I note in passing that our struggle against them so far has been unsuccessful, failed, and demoralizing for the zeal and good conscience of our ministries.

Why is the issue so important?

First, we believe the gay position as we hear it undermines the anthropology of the Gospel. It undermines the teaching concerning the inherent sinfulness of the creature before the Creator. It wants to exempt a particular category of persons, gay men and women, from Original Sin on the basis that they are “created” a certain way, therefore how can it be wrong? For reasons beyond our human understanding we are all created sinners: distorted, inverted, libidinal and narcissistic. Our baggage is psycho-genetic, not the sum of our deeds. The gay argument confuses creation with redemption – as in the old 1970’s poster “God don’t make no junk”. That was a half truth then, and it is a half truth now. The core, universal, and seemingly impenetrable claim of the gay lobby is this: If I came into the world this way, then how can it be wrong? That claim is in opposition to the classic Christian doctrine, Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant, of the human being as being intrinsically and inherently fallen in all cases. The claim is Arminian explicity and Pelagian implicitly.

If the anthropology is flawed, then inevitably the soteriology is flawed. If “God don’ t make no junk”, then what need is there for a Savior? Why did Christ have to die on the Cross, if the need of the human race were not rooted in our paralysis and inability to help ourselves? The result of an overly high anthropology is an overly low soteriology.

The result of an overly low soteriology is a weak Christology. If Christ is not a Savior in the full and plain sense of the word, then He did not have to be God. The whole encounter of Jesus with the Pharisees in Mark, Chapter Two, when he made a connection between his divine authority and the forgiveness of sins, ceases to mean anything. High anthropology means low soteriology means inadequate Christology.

Finally, the Trinitarian implications of the weak Christology implicit in the gay lobby’ s argument – become now the Episcopal Church’s argument – are devastating. The Son who is no Saviour becomes automatically subordinate to the Father. We are quickly into Arianism and what we today call unitarianism. Now most theological liberals I know in ECUSA insist that they are Trinitarian Christians. And I believe them. But I wonder whether they have realized the implications for the whole of theology of the overly high anthropology of the arguments we have been hearing from the gay lobby and their friends. Please, think through the implications of a weakened profile of Original Sin.

The second “theological” argument traditionalists want to use is the hermeneutical one. I myself think this is second in importance to the theological “domino effect” I have just tried to spell out. The hermeneutical objection to the Robinson consecration is very important, but it is not decisive in quite the same way the argument from anthropology is. Nevertheless, we believe the plain and unexceptioned meaning of the Bible is against the practice of homosexuality in all cases. We cannot get around this. And I am grateful when folk on the other side acknowledge and do not try to weasel out of the “fact on the ground” of the Biblical voice against their idea. Yes, I realize there are wholly inclusive implications to Jesus’ and Paul’ s Gospel, but they stop at the Rubicon of homosexual practice.

The third “theological” argument – and I put the word “theological” in quotes to make the point that these arguments, unlike my first one, are more ecclesiological than theological in the pure sense – relates to tradition. We believe, and especially the many Anglo-Catholics among us, that such a break with catholic and universal Christian tradition that the Robinson consecration constituted is a mighty and awesome thing. To do any thing so completely in discontinuity with what everyone has said everywhere and in every time is simply so ambitious. It feels Promethean to me.

And finally, related to the argument from tradition, there is the ecumenical argument. It is alarming to have split ourselves off from the Roman Catholic Church and almost all the Orthodox Patriarchates, not to mention the large numerical majority of our Anglican co-religionists overseas, especially in the Global South.

Conceptually, neither the ecumenical argument nor the argument from tradition is binding for most theologians, and certainly not for most Protestant ones. That is why I emphasized the first piece of this – the move from low anthropology to final unitarianism. But the ecumenical argument does involve people’s lives, and respect for (millions of) others’. It surely has got to be weighed in and not just portrayed as a sort of primitive reaction to American unilateralism. I think of Janet Jackson’ s Tuesday apology this week to 99 million Super Bowl viewers: “if I have offended anyone…” Both her action and her apology smack of opportunism, and make me sick. Is our church guilty of Janet-Jackson thinking?

Now I began by saying that we need to look at the arguments concerning the issue, at least the losing ones – the ones from “my” side – so we don’t just skip over them in our rush to ecclesiological or structural arguments. I would like to conclude this part of our debate concerning “Anglican comprehensiveness” with a plea, from the position of weakness, to you, and by extension to the Episcopal Church as a whole, and to its bishops in particular.

My plea has a formal side and it has a material side.

The formal side, and I intentionally use philosophical language here in order to be as clear as possible, is a plea for Alternative Episcopal Oversight. Traditional people in the Episcopal Church, in order to feel able to stand and be secure, require a concrete gesture of generosity on behalf of the bishops. This would be to let us sign up with ECUSA bishops, and some overseas Anglican bishops, with whom we feel safe. Most of us, because of the titanic nature of the issues involved in the Gene Robinson consecration, no longer feel we can serve with zeal and in good conscience within the structures of ECUSA. We need the freedom to sign up with bishops and structures – and I do not mean the AMiA, although many of us feel we are being pushed out in that direction – we need the freedom or space to sign up with ECUSA and other overseas Anglican bishops with whose commitments we feel safe. We no longer feel safe in ECUSA.

I should add that my own bishop, Henry Parsley, voted against Robinson’s consecration and has been respectful of the traditional position.

What the ECUSA bishops need to allow us to do is have Alternative Episcopal Oversight on our terms, not on their terms. They need to cede control, for a season and a space, to us, the losers. The concession has got to come from the victors, the ECUSA bishops who have won this most impressive victory at Minneapolis, and not from the losers: us, in other words. I use the language of power here because our Christian faith teaches us that the stronger has always got to give up power to the weaker. That is Grace. God did it. Philippians, Chapter Two enshrines this principle theologically. “…Though he was in the form of God, (he) did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant…” (vss. 6-7).
The stronger, I repeat, the stronger, the victor, has to give up control and power to the weaker, the loser, in order for reconciliation, in the Christian sense of the word, to take place. So the formal side of my plea is for ECUSA to allow Alternative Episcopal Oversight without control or condition. My plea is for the bishops to lay aside their fears and trust us to God. I predict that if the bishops were to see their way to conceding this to us, the defensiveness and anger of people on my side would go down by half if not by three-quarters. In fact, if I understand people right, the day we are allowed to “call our own shots” in the area of AEO will be the day we come back to our original loyalty. I predict that. I predict it because it happens that way in love. Which brings me to the material side of my plea.

We are talking about Grace, or love, here. In relationships with people you love, you often do what they want to do simply because they want to do it. If my wife has an interest that I regard as dumb – let’ s just imagine! – I still need to make it, at least somehow, my interest. Not because of the interest itself – not at all – but because of my love for her. The ECUSA bishops need to give us what we so obviously, urgently, and desperately need, out of love. Not because of anything else. It has been astonishing to me, after almost 30 years ordained service in the Episcopal Church, that almost none of my old friends who are now Episcopal bishops or leaders on the ascendant side have reached out, personally. Ian Douglas is a significant exception.

The material principle behind the formal concept of Alternative Episcopal Oversight is, simply put, love.

There are so many illustrations in life of the principle of love from the stronger to the weaker. Lincoln’ s choice of “Dixie” as the song to be played by the White House band on the night that word arrived of Lee’ s surrender at Appomattox; the amazing overture of the Catholic President of the Republic of Ireland, John Bruton, to the Protestant Orangemen at Drumcree in the historic stand-off at Portadown in 1999; the simple miracles of reconciliation that happen every day in marriages and families and friendships throughout the world of our common life. Do you remember that line in John Ford’s 1939 legendary masterpiece, Stagecoach, when the whisky drummer beseeches the bickering passengers on the coach, just before the Indian attack as it turns out, to “have a little Christian charity”? The point is extremely important.

With the formal side of my plea granted, rooted and rooted only in the material principle of Christian love from the stronger to the weaker, the whole situation we are in would turn around. With its not being granted, I think I might safely predict that almost every traditionalist Episcopal minister and priest in the United States will no longer feel able to serve in ECUSA. There is a dire reality we are looking at. It is also a promising new future out there if the church can heed this plea.

Thank you very much.

Great Morning In Church

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One of the joys of being a pastor in a small church is that you can never be sure how many people will come on any particular Sunday.

If you're in a biggish church, say over about 70 people, statistical laws come into play so that while there is some variation the variations are not that large, or else are predictable.

With a small church it can only take one or two families to be away and that's a big hole in the people actually attending. While numbers aren't important as such, there are practicalities that you have to think about like how many communion cups are needed, how high to fiill the urn, whether you get the 2 litre offering bucket out or the 50 litre one :smile:

So today with Margaret & Tim away, along with the Misons and the Nashes, Gary & Tania it was starting to look like a big hole in our usual high 20's congregation was going to look decimated. The Coopers were supposed to be away, and Margaret Baxter came along with another bunch of likely absentees and it was starting to look like a bad night at cell group!

By the time we had finished the praise time we had 20 people. We had nearly all of our "likely absentees" present and the Coopers had decided that they were too crook to go to Newcastle so they came and shared their germs with the family- nice gesture guys! We also had a bunch of people there whom we weren't expecting, so it was all a pleasant surprise.

I'm sure that my sermon was hard to listen to because my voice is very scratchy right now and by the end of the sermon I thought my voice had given out completely.

We had a great time of fellowship afterwards also with people hanging around for quite some time.

On the surface it was a pretty ordinary morning. But it's often in the ordinary that God starts moving the extraordinary.

I wonder what night church holds tonight?