THE ROLE OF THE CHURCH
Saturday, 10. February 2007, 13:07:56
The Independence Activities of The Armenian Church
The proclamation of Constitutional Regime, the Collaboration of Tashnak - Hinchak
“The regulation on Armenian CATHOLICOS and Patriarchate”
The Activities of Patriarch Zaven Efendi
The regulation called “Nizâmnâme-i Millet-i Ermeniyân” (Regulation of the Armenian Nation), which reinforced the situation of the Armenian community in the Ottoman Empire on 29 March 1863, and which granted some additional privileges and autonomy concerning their self-governance, became effective. According to the Islahat Fermâni (Firman of the Reforms) this regulation, which included some new provisions, that were additional to the present rights, was a reward that was granted to the Armenians, who were considered as the most loyal citizens of the state. The Armenian Patriarchate Assemblies prepared this regulation taking the consent of the Ottoman Government. With this regulation, immense privileges were granted to the Armenians. This can be expressed as “a State in a state; governance in governance.” In a way, with this regulation, the Armenians wanted to eliminate the aristocratic dominance of the Armenian nobles. In this period, the Gregorian Armenians lived in 26 Episcopal branches under the administration of their patriarch in Istanbul; and the Catholic Armenians, whose majority was in the cities, constituted 13 Episcopal branches under the administration of a Patriarch (1). Kagik Ozanyan, the Armenian writer, expressed that this regulation incites the revolutionary spirit among the Armenians and “The Armenian Question” was put on the agenda (2).
THE INDEPENDENCE ACTIVITIES OF THE ARMENIAN CHURCH
After the declaration of “Regulation of the Armenian Nation” in 1863 the Patriarchs started to work in the national and political environments. This regulation was considered as a step for autonomy. They hoped that if the European intervention expanded because of the Lebanon incidents, this intervention would be very beneficial for them. The revolts (1780-1862) that were started for an independent Armenia in the Ottoman Empire, did not became succesful (3).
The idea of creating an autonomous state in the Ottoman Empire belongs to Migirdiç Hirimyan (1869-1873). Migirdich Hirimyan, born in 1820 in Van, became Vartabed (4) to the Akdamar Church in 1854, at the age of 34; thus, he became the member of the church. He started to publish the newspapers: The “Eagle of Van”, aiming at Armenian independence, was printed in the printing house he established in the Varak Monastery in Van; and “Eagle of Mus” was printed in the St. Garabed Monastery in 1863 in Mus. Hirimyan, who attracted attention through his sermons, was elected as the Armenian Patriarch in Istanbul in 1869 (5). His election as the Patriarch resulted in an increase in the national Armenian interests. As soon as he started to work he began his new job on these two principles:
a. To examine the “Regulation of the Armenian Nation” again and have it modified according to the demands and the needs of the provinces,
b. To attract the attention of the Armenians in Istanbul, the Assembly and the Government to Armenia.(6)
The bankers, moneychangers and the officials did not approve and opposed these ideas of Hirimyan, whose aim was to pull Armenians into dangerous adventures. They believed that their future was united with Turkey. Consequently, Hirimyan could not obtain his objective as a Patriarch, and he had to resign in August 1873.
His predecessor Patriarch Nerses Varjabedyan (1874-1884) pursued the idea of Hirimyan. In 1876, Abdulhamid II ascended the throne and the First Constitutional Regime was declared. During the Istanbul Conference (12 December 1876- 20 January 1877), which was held to settle the Bulgarian issue, Nerses Varjabedyan submitted a report prepared by the ex-Patriarch Hirimyan to the British Ambassador Henry Elliot concerning the so-called pressures on the Ottoman Armenians. However, because it was not on the agenda of the conference, his initiative was successful (7).
Reports and the applications of complaints by the Patriarchate which started in the Hirimyan era increased after the problems of Christians in Thrace. If we examine the reports of violence given by the Patriarchate to the Sublime Porte and the European countries, it is easy to notice that most of them were nothing but common police incidents. On one hand, the Patriarchate was exaggerating the most common incidents and informing the government about them, on the other hand, the Patriarchate transformed these incidents into serious political issues; and started to inform the European countries about them.
Before 1877-1878 Ottoman-Russian War there were two alternatives for the Armenians:
a. To remain loyal to the Ottoman State and the Turkish people,
b. To follow the steps of the other Christian communities in the Empire and to provide the intervention of the European states.
Patriarch Nerses sent a letter to the British Minister of Foreign Affairs, Lord Salisbury on 13 April 1878. The letter is as follows:
“It is no longer possible for the Armenians and the Turks to live together. Only a Christian administration can provide the equality, justice and the freedom of conscience. A Christian administration should replace the Muslim administration. Armenia (Eastern Anatolia) and Kilikya (8), are the regions, where the Christian administration should be founded... The Turkish Armenians want this... That is, a Christian administration is demanded in Turkish Armenia, as in Lebanon.”(9)
The Patriarch visited the British Ambassador to Istanbul, Layard on 17 March 1878 and told him that: “A year ago we did not have any problems with the Ottoman administration. However the Russian victory has changed the situation now. We want an independent Armenia in the East. If you can not help us, we will apply to the Russians.” When the ambassador asked him what he meant by “Armenia”, the Patriarch said, “Van, Sivas, Diyarbakir and Cilicia”. The ambassador said “Yes; but you do have not the majority in these places.” The Patriarch replied “We know this. Yet Russia is gaining lands now. The balance of powers between Russia and the Ottoman Empire changed. We have to take our future into account.” (10) Thus, he explained the objective of the Armenians.
Upon the peace request of the Ottomans, 1877-1878 Ottoman- Russian War ended on 31 January 1878 through the armistice concluded in Edirne (11), the terms of the peace agreement were settled in Ayastefanos (Yesilköy). During the peace negotiations in Ayastefanos (Yesilköy), Nerses Varjabedyan, in person and the Armenian notables negotiated with the Grand Duke Nikola, the head of the Russian delegation, the brother of the Tsar and they maneged to add an article concerning the Armenians. On 3 March 1878, the Ottoman State and Russia signed the Ayastefanos Agreement, which included heavy provisions. By stating the word “Armenia” in the 16th article of the agreement, the Ottoman State was forced to accept the presence of a state. However this agreement was not put into force.
When Patriarch Varjabedyan heard that the Ayastefanos Agreement would be modified in Berlin, he started to initiate the activities among the states that would participate in the congress. Within the context of this objective, the Archbishop of Besiktas Horen Nar Bey went to Russia (St. Petersburg) and was received by Tsar Alexander II. Horen Nar Bey requested him to continue protecting the Ottoman Armenians and to defend their struggle in the Berlin Congress. A delegation under the chairmanship of the ex- Patriarch Hirimyan visited the capitals of Europe (Rome, Vienna, Paris, London) and started to propagate in order to gain the politicians consent for the Armenian Struggle (Hai Tahd). The delegation had a project comprising of 7 articles, which stated the Armenian demands for the purpose of establishing Armenia in Turkey (12).
In addition to those activities, patriarch Nerses Varjabedyan sent a letter to the president of the Manchester Armenian Committee, Karekin Papazyan (13), stating that they were grateful to Russia and thanks to Britain, they gained the hope and goals, which was to attain material and moral prosperity. He also visited the British Ambassador, Layard, in Istanbul on June 30. He reported that they had given the project to the congress and he requested that the British should support this project. (14)
Additionally, Patriarch Nerses sent the falsified statistical figures of the church concerning the Armenian population in the big states.
As a result, this artificial problem, the 16th article of the Ayastefanos Agreement, was accepted as the 61st article of the Ayastefanos Agreement without many modifications on July 13, 1878. In this way, the Armenian question was established as the “Issue of Reforms”, that would be implemented in the Ottoman State under the supervision of the big states.
Nuryaz Çeraz participated in the Berlin Congress with ex-patriarch Hirimyan as an interpreter-secretary and published a brochure in 1879, which says that for the Armenians there was no need to sink into despair because of the results obtained in the Berlin Congress. Nuryaz Çeraz addressed them as follows (15):
“The Berlin Congress laid down the foundations of the national structure (The Armenian State)...Europe gave us arms; we have to use them before they rust...We acquired a gold mine through the Berlin Congress. It is our duty to run it and mine the gold”
As it is seen in the brochure, the Armenians were proposing the armed action and it was also stated that the European countries were supporting them.
Patriarch Nerses Varjebedyan believed that the problem should be worked out by means of revolution and rebellion and he founded the “Reforms Commission” in the Patriarchate. Towards the mid 1879, the Commission sent a circular to the Episcopacies and invited the Armenians to the rebellion with one statement. This circular also included what the Armenian religious people in the provinces were supposed to do (16).
Meanwhile, the Archbishop Mateos Izmirliyan, the Deputy Armenian Patriarch in Istanbul, dealt with sending letters to the episcopacies. When these letters are examined, it is easy to see that the Patriarchate was unfaithful and the aim of the action pursued was to demolish the government to provide foreign intervention, eventually to obtain autonomy (17).
The Governor of Sivas province, Hakki Pasha attracted attention to the below mentioned issues in his article, published in 1881 and 1882, when the activities of the Patriarchate against the state were reported to the Ministry of Interior (18):
1. The Patriarchate started sending circulars which mention revolution and rebellion preparations, to the bishops.
2. The Patriarchate fired or killed some of the sensible old bishops, who did not obey the rules of the Patriarchate and who were of the opinion that it was in vain for the Armenians to revolt and rebel and that the Armenian people would experience harm. Young and revolutionist bishops and priests replaced them.
3. The Patriarchate was involved in the censure, which was the duty of the state, through sending secret circulars to the European states, in order to show that they had the majority in the “Six Provinces”.
4. The Patriarchate propagated against the Turks and in favour of the Armenians in the European press, by collecting taxes using different names such as Famine Relief for the Armenians, payment of debts of Kudüs-ü ªerif and so forth. It tried to pretend to demonstrate the ordinary crimes as if they were the Armenian genocide. In short, it started a campaign based on the distorted incidents, fiction and slander.
5. The Patriarchate has hundreds of thousands liras (gold), which it collected from the Armenians under the pretence of “relief”. The armed gangs, which disseminated from Russia to Eastern Anatolia, with the help of local guards and using some of this money started to terrorise.
6. The priests demolished the respect for the rules of the government and obedience through posioning the minds of the Armenian people even the little children in the Armenian schools.
7. The Patriarchate is providing financial assistance to the committees it had helped to establish. It is useful to mention that the committees are under the administration of the Patriarchate.
After the death of Nerses Varjabedyan in 1884, the Bishop of Erzurum, Haratyun Vehabedyan (1885-1888) was elected as Patriarch in 1885. Vehabedyan disapproved the policy pursued by Migirdiç Hirimyan and Nerses Varjabedyan and he believed that it was useless to hope for help from Europe for the reformation of the condition of Turkish Armenians.
During the age of Haratyun Vehabedyan, who was the Patriarch for three years, the Armenian rebellion committees were expanded and opened branches in Europe and in America. The Armenian Revolutionist Parties adopted the Armenian nationalism ideal along with the church, in other words, the ideal revolutionary movement demanding autonomy. “Armenagan”, the first Armenian political party was founded in 1885 in Van. It was organised according to the model of its pioneers in Europe and had its own publication organ (19). In 1887, the Armenians founded their first Marxist party in Geneva. Later on they acquired the name “Hinçak Revolutionist Party” in 1890(20).
The Archbishop of Izmir Monastery, Horen Asikyan (1888-1894) replaced Haratyun Vehabedyan. During this period, the ordinary crimes in the provinces were exaggerated by the bishops and were reshaped and reflected to Europe as the “Turkish oppression and torture”(!).Their intervention was requested.
However, the Armenian committee members attempted to assassinate of Patriarch Horen Asikyan believing that he was not active enough for their cause. The Patriarch was only wounded and he resigned (21).
After Horen Asikyan, the Ex-Patriarch to Egypt, Mateos Izmirliyan was elected as the Armenian Patriarch to Istanbul (1894-1896). This boosted the morels of the Hinchaks. He employed officials and members, from the committees. Izmirliyan did not only disseminate the idea of revolution and rebellion but he also severely criticised the services provided by the government and he sent reports to the British Embassy and to the newspapers in London (22).
The rebellions, which took place in the period of Mateos Izmirliyan, started to expand rapidly to almost all the provinces (23). Thanks to the dexterity of Abdulhamid II, these rebellions were suppressed in a very short time. Izmirliyan resigned and went to Jerusalem. When he came back to Istanbul he was elected as Patriarch for the second time (1908-1909)(24).
The proclamation of Constitutional Regime, the Collaboration of Tashnak - Hinchak
Following the proclamation of the Constitutional Regime on 23-24 July 1908, the Patriarchate became accomplice a full of the committees. Thus, the Armenian Church acquired its role in terror after the proclamation of the Constitutional Regime.
The report No 602 on 3 December 1910 sent by the Russian Consul to Bitlis to the Russian Embassy to Istanbul (25), was clearly showed the relationship between the church and the Tasnak members.
Following the “Incident of 31 March” in 1909, in Istanbul temporarily there was no government and this provided the opportunity, which the Armenians sought. With the encouragement of Armenian Archbishop to Adana, Museg, the Armenian rebellion took place on 14 April 1909, with the aim of obtaining the intervention of the European countries through attracting their attention to this and establishing the Armenian State in Adana, Maras, Mersin and Iskenderun with the assistance of the Hinchaks (26). During 13 days, approximately 20.000 Turks and Armenians died in Adana incidents. And the Bishop Museg escaped to Alexandria in the second day of the revolt.
In the same period, on 29 May 1909, the Armenian Patriarch in Istanbul, Mateos Izmirliyan, left to Istanbul to replace the Catholicos Post, Eçmiyazin, Migirdiç Hirimyan, who died on October 1907. Yegice Turhan replaced Mateos Izmirliyan (1909-1911) as the Patriarch (27). After this, Hovannes Arsaruni was elected for the Post of Patriarch (1912-1913)(28).
“The regulation on Armenian CATHOLICOS and Patriarchate”
The activities of the Armenian Patriarchate to divide the country, necessitated the modification of the rights, that were stated in the “Regulation of the Armenian Nation”, granted by the Patriarchate and the State in 1863. With the “Regulation of Armenian Cathogicos and Patriarchate”, which became effective on 10 August 1916, the two separate posts like Cathogicos, which is spiritual and superior, and Patriarchate, which is semi spiritual, semi political and administrative, were put together and the single post, Cathogicos - Patriarchate Post emerged. The two Cathogicoses (Sis and Akdamar) in the Ottoman State and the two Patriarchates (Istanbul and Jerusalem) were abolished. The only post, Katogigos-Patriarchate replaced them. Its location was not Istanbul, the political center of the state; but the religious centre of Christianity, Jerusalem. The changes were materialized in the assemblies of the Patriarchate. The General Assembly (Millî Meclis-i Umumî) comprised of 140 members was abrogated and the Religious Assembly (Meclis-i Ruhanî) comprised of 12 persons and the Joint Assembly replaced it. The Ottoman State aimed at disconnecting the relation between the Cathogicos of Echmiyazin and Russia. Therefore, the Ottoman State tried to free the Ottoman Armenians from moral protection of Russia.
The Ottoman Empire was defeated in the World War I and the Entente Powers occupied its lands according to the provisions in the Armistice of Mondros, which was signed between the Entente Powers and the Ottoman Empire on 30 October 1918. Now, the time has come for the liberation of the country and the establishment of a new state, The Republic of Turkey.
The Activities of Patriarch ZAven Efendi
The Armistice of Mondros was an important step for the Armenians to establish Armenia. Zaven Efendi, the Armenian Patriarch, came to Istanbul on 6 December 1918 in accordance with the Regulations in 1918 (30). He established an organisation to found the independent Armenia (31). He collected aids like guns, bullets and money, tried to find the necessary equipment and got considerable assistance from the Greek Patriarchate (32).
Bogos Nubar Pasha made an application to the Entente Powers on 30 November 1918, using the title of “the representative of Turkish Armenians” and he requested from the Entente Powers and the League of Nations to take Armenia under their protection (33). In the mean time, on 12 February 1919, the Patriarch Zaven Efendi went to Istanbul, Paris and then to London for the realisation of the same issue. First, he met Bogos Nubar Pasha and he enlightened him concerning issues; next Lord Cecil, Lord Curzon and his deputy Lord Harding. He also negotiated with French Chambon and the Greek Prime Minister Venizelos (34). He visited the British King George V to express the gratitude of the Armenians (35). While he was coming back from London to Paris he met with the French President and the Prime Minister and he came back with feelings of contentment and hope (36).
After the foundation of the Turkish Republic and the Lausanne Conference, there was no Armenian Question. The Armenian Church in Turkey opposed the initiatives of the Armenian Diaspora that would put Turkey into difficulty let alone pose problems. The Armenian Patriarch continued to react against the so-called Armenian genocide.
Therefore Dikran Kevorkan, the Chief of the Armenian Church in Kandilli said the following in the TV program, called Ceviz Kabugu on 7 October 2000 concerning the newly started propaganda within 6 months:
“The genocide and relocation (Tehcir) (the act of moving someone from somewhere) mean different things. The intrigues of the imperialists, the Armenian leaders with apolitical visions (media, churches, and the religious people) caused all these incidents. The Patriarch is the spiritual leader. It is a mistake to ask him about his political views. What could have they done the imperialist powers if had not supported ASALA and PKK?”
The idea of Kevorkan about the “assimilation” was as follows:
“Turkey is the only country, where the Armenians can preserve their identity freely and strongly. The Armenians, in the Diaspora abroad, change their names before they start their struggles, because in those countries an assimilation policy. The Armenians in the Diaspora against Turkey, know very well that in some of the churches in America the sacrifice ceremonies are fulfilled in English. The Armenians are forgetting their own language. When you say this, you are criticised. Therefore, we, the Armenian citizens of the Republic of Turkey, are expressing our grief. Why? Because it is unfair to act towards the Kuvay-i Milliye (Power of Nation), commanded by Ataturk. All these are the intrigues of the outsiders, including PKK, ASALA, and this decree. Those are the ruse of the outsiders. We, the citizens in Turkey, are of the opinion that this is unfair. If the Armenians are wise they should not let themselves be used as a tool.”
REFERENCES
1. Ilber Ortayli, Tanzimattan Cumhuriyete Yerel Yönetim Gelenegi, Istanbul 1985, pp. 73
2. Esat Uras,a.g.e.,pp.412
3. See Erdal Ilter, Ermeni Mes’elesinin Perspektifi ve Zeytun Isyanlari (1780-1880), Ankara 1988, pp.97-115
4. The spiritual ranks of the Armenian Church are as follows: Katogigos, Patriarch, Bishop, Vartabed, Priest.
5. Esat Uras, a.g.e., pp. 417; Louse Nalbandian, a.g.e., pp.53; Kamuran Gürün, a.g.e., pp. 62,74-
6. The word, Armenian means the Eastern Anatolia. However the word Armenia is accepted as the geographical term, not as an ethnic term, in the geographical scientific milieus. As from the XIII. Century, the name Armenia, which means “High/ Upwards/ Mountainous Region”, did not occur by chance and until the second half of XIX. Century the region (Eastern Anatolia) was called “Turcoman Country”. For more information see H. Kemal Türközü, Türmen Ülkesi (Dogu Anadolu) Adi Emperyalizmin Etkileri, Ankara 1985, pp. 1-12; Kamuran Gürün, a.g.e., pp. 1-9; Mehlika Aktok Kasgarli, a.g.e., pp.329; Tuncer Baykara, Anadolu’nun Tarihî Cografyasina Giris, Anadolu’nun Idarî Taksimati, 1, Ankara 1988, pp.24-25,
7. Esat Uras, a.g.e., pp.417; Salahi Ramsdan Sonyal, The Ottoman Armenians,pp.41
8. Kilikya is a region between Taurus Mountains, Amanos Mountains and the Mediterranean. In the administrative context, Adana province was called Kilikya in the Ottoman Empire. The borders of Kilikya has changed sometimes.
9. F.O. 424/70, No. 134/I zikr., Bilal N. ªimsir, British Documents On Ottoman Armenians 1856-1880), Vol. I, Ankara 19R2, pp.173. Document No. 69
10. Kamuran Gürün, a.g.e., pp. 99.
11. Nihat Erim, Devletlerarasi Hukuk ve Siyasi Tarih Metinleri: Osmanli Imparatorlugu Andlasmalari, Vol.1, Ankara 1953, pp.381-385.
12. For the whole of the project, see Esat Uras, a.g.e., pp.459-485; Enver Ziya Karal. A.g.e., Vol. VIII, pp.132; L’ Angleterre et les Armeniens (18391904), pp.19-22.
13. For the text of the letter, see Esat Uras, a.g.e., pp.485-486.
14. Kamuran Gürün, a.g.e., pp.104.
15. Turkey No.4(1880). No.118/I. Zikr., Bilal N. ªimsir, a.g.e., pp.602-606, Document No.309..
16. Mehmed Hocacioglu, Tarihte Ermeni Mezalimi ve Ermeniler, Istanbul 1976, pp.181-182.
17. For the essence of the letter, see Aspirations et Agissement Revolutionaires des Comites Armeniens..., pp.308-310.
18. Mehmet Hocaoglu, a.g.e., pp.182-185.
19. Louise Nalbandian, a.g.e., pp.90.
20. Louise Nalbandian, a.g.e., pp104-117.
21. Esat Uras, a.g.e., pp.724-725. For the threatening letter to Horen Asikyan, sent by the Hinçak Committee see Aspirations et Agissement Revolutionaires des Comites Armeniens..., pp.310-311
22. Hüseyin Nazim Pasa. Ermeni Olaylari Tarihi, I. Ankara 1994, pp.66.
23. For the chronological order of the rebellions see Kamuran Gürün, a.g.e., pp.139-159.
24. Esat Uras,a.g.e.,pp.833; Salahi Ramsdan Sonyel, a.g.e., pp.281.
25. Aspirations et Agissement Revolutionaires des Comites Armeniens..., pp.95-103.
26. For more information on 1909 Armenian incidents see Cemal Pasa Hatirat (1913-1922), Istanbul 1922, pp.249-256; Esat Uras a.g.e., pp.810-829; Mehmet Asaf, 1909 Adana Ermeni Olaylari ve Anilarim, yay. haz., Ismet Parmaksizoglu, Ankara 1982; Salahi R. Sonyal, “The Turco-Armenian Adana Incidents in the Light of Secret British Documents (July, 1908- December-, 1909), “Belleten, Number:20 i (Aralik 197), pp.1291-1338.
27. Jacques de Morgan, a.g.e.,pp. 369: Raymond H. Kevorkan-Paul B. Paboudjian, Les Armeniens dans L’Empire Ottoman, Paris 1992, pp.29.
28. Jacques de Morgan. A.g.e., pp.369.
29. BOA, DUIT, No. 67/1-I; for the French version of the Regulation see, Hrant Vartabed, L’Empire Ottoman et L’Independence de L’Eglise Armenienne, Publications de Dadjar, No. 2, Constantinople 1917, pp.80-94.
30. Zaven Efendi, who worked as bishop in Erzurum between 1898-1906, in 1910 in Van and between 1919-1913 in Diyarbakir, was elected the Armenian Patriarch to Istanbul. However because of his negative activities he was sent to Baghdad. Following the Mondros Armistice he came back to Istanbul. For more information see Christopher J. Walker, a.g.e., pp.426-427; and see Zeki Sarihan, Kurtulus Savasi Günlügü, I, Ankara 1993, pp.136-137.
31. M.Kemal Atatürk, Nutuk, I, 1919-1920, Istanbul 1967, pp.2; Selahattin Tansel, Mondros’ tan Mudanya’ ya Kadar, I, Anakara 1973, pp.106
32. Ergünöz Akçora, “Milli Mücadele Yillarinda Kurulmus Faydali ve Zararli Cemiyetler,” TDTD, Number: 4 (April 1987), pp.20.
33. For the reference text of Bogos Nubar Pasha see Esat Uras, a.g.e., pp. 923-924.
34. Esat Uras, a.g.e.,pp. 943-944.
35. Esat Uras, a.g.e., pp.943-944
36. Esat Uras, a.g.e., pp.943-947.
WIDGETIZE
Anonymous # 20. November 2008, 22:08
ARMENS OR ARMEDMANS.......
What to do about so called armen genoside... 1) This subject it is not belong to newspapaper man or politicians.RESTRICTLY BELONG TO THE HISTORIANS with studing in ANKARA... 2)Politicians has limits on this; a)They are to make arraingmets fastest with historians to make them studies archives in ANKARA...(till then nobody has right to do otherwise(till then limited to talking to air..bribes,public money misused, under table payments etc, to the limited) b) after the historians results in Ankara any politicians has right to take action about the subject... 3)Anybody out there Turkish Goverment has open invitation to the armens nultiple times remainding to everybody come to table with historians study the open archives..armens knows they are going to loose that is why they are afraid not to come to the table... 4)Meanwile below explanations what the devil in them ,backing even further then armen versus -non armens -what happen to them when they are embarked from NOAH s ARK ,till then SAME CRAP repeats by sending the bill to non armens etc. ALL THE BELOW MATERIALS ARE TEXT ITEMS SHOULD BE TEACHED IN THE SCHOOLS For both sides and through out the world(currently fabricated armen stories backed by the under table paid followers and blessed the mess by the ortodoxs priest linked to the devil version egzist...) 5)strongly recomended to expose handful armens and illegal activities of their fo;;owers -politicians causing millions of armens trap in armenia from the truth unlees politicians directly make arraingment to historians quikly to the table,rather than stealing the job from historians by filling the pocets...limited to the TALK TO ME BABY... 6) enjoy the below ultimate explanations and HOW YOU CAN GET RIDE-OF YOUR VIRUS in multiple cases...(( Su ana kadar bu konularda tarihcilerimiz haric yetkisi olmayan kisiler on planda gozukmektedir. her zaman oldugu gibi kahvede dedikodu tarzinda kalabilen iyi niyet tasisalar bile onlar tarihci degil ,Malumunuz bu iki taraftada bu seviye otesine cikmaktan yoksun kalmaya mahkum olmus Ermenilerin kendi cikarlari icin Turklere karsi kullandigi seytansal bir iftiradir.Aglama bebegi olmalari kendilerine saniyelik vizeler saglamis,masa altindan Mafia tarzinda yandaslariyla sahsi maddi gelirleri diger devletlerin vatandaslarinin vergileriyle tek tarafli gizli cikarlari icin seytansal olarak kullanmis faturayi Turkler de dahil ermeni olmayanlara odettirdikleri Nuhun gemisi agri dagina indiginden beri baslamis plan bir asagilik konudur.Yani bu oyunlari Turklerden cok evvelden beri gelen bir seytansal kemirgen asaliklari herhangi bir devletin icinde olduklarindan beri devam eden ve ermeni kilisesi tarafindan desteklenen asagilik bir konudur.Setansal ve sahte bir uydurmacilari oldugu icin T.C. nin actigi arsivlere ve ve tarihcilerle uzerinden gidilme cagrilarindan kaybedeceklerini bildikleri icin kacinmaktalar ,seytansal karanliliklarla mafia tarzi kisisel cikarlari icin tercih ederek devam etmeyi secmislerdirT.C.tarafindan defalarca arsivler uzerinden Tarihcilerle gidilmesi davetini duymamazliklari devam ediyor.Nuhun gemisinden indiklerinden beri ayni namussuzlarinin aliskanliklari adet olmus kendilerince...eger masaya tarihcilerle otururlarsa foyalari ortaya cikacaklarini biliyorlar.... asagidaki eklemelerin karmasik olmasi gerekli olarak Ortodoks kilisesi de dahil yunan ,bulgar .sirp,rus ortodoks olarak ayni amaci paylasip ve diger yandas hiristiyan ulkelerdeki onemli mevkilerdekileri de kullanarak seytansal cikarlari baskalarinin vergileriyle sahsi olarak ceplere girmektedir.Eger bu sahis;ar konulari da ciddi ise ACIK DAVETE tarihcilerle arsivlere istinaden masaya oyursunlar.Bunun haricinde kalan sahislar sadece dedikodu yapmakla sinirlidir iyi kalpli olsalar bile ve seytanin elinde oyuncak olmakla sinirlidir... Simdi asagidaki karmasik gibi gorulen duxenlemeler bunun nasil bir sahtekarlik duzmecesi oldugunu ,ayrica sahte ermeni konusundan da otelerini seytanla el sikismis olanlarinin ayni pozisyona dustuklerini yansitiyor.Kisacasi Ermeni ve yandaslari bunlarin sahte oldugunu bildigi icin masaya oturmuyor ciddi olmayip hep taviz koparmaya da yuzsuzlukle devam edip(ERMENI ISTEMEDEN VERMELI) atasozumuze bile tas cikartacak cinsten seytansal bir tuzakla masa altindan cep doldurmak ve ortados kilisesi tarafinda na takdis rdilmekle devam eden seytanin takibinde olamakl;a kaliyor.... Eger ciddiyetleri varsa bu arsiler dogrultusunda sadece tarihcilerle sonuc alinabilecek konu.Bundan once hic kimsenin yetkisi yok yani siyasetcilerin (sadece masaya oturulmasina kadar yetkili-tarihci;er isini bitirinceye kadar beklemeli-sonuca gore ise devam etmeyle sinirlidir) yani siyasetci,ordan burdan gazeteci,diger sahislarla sonuclanmaz.iyi kalpli olsalar bile (supheli)dedikoduyla devama mahkumdur.... Asagidakiler insanligin seytansal tarafini egitimsel olarak karisik ve cok yonlu goster,ektedir.her zaman tarih gibi tekrar ederler ve sabrinizi gosterirseniz ermeni ve yandaslari da dahil ilk defa hayatinizda buyuk arinma katkilari olacaktir.Sahislarin icindeki seytan onlari terk edince Tarihcilerle masaya oturup arsivler uzerinden kendilerinin muzurlugundan kurtulmus okacaktir.... ACILISA SOYLE GIRELIM.... EDUCATIONAL TEXT ITEMS TO ARMENS AND THEIR FOLLOWERS......
((MUST SEE THE VIDEO) =gormeniz gereken video)))
http://yenisafak.com.tr/video/?i=145294
Please ,do find perfect match(ASTONISHING MATCH ARMEN THE RICH or ARMENS or ARMEDMANS , WHO REPAITS , SO CALLED GENOSIDE..TRY TO SEND THE BILL ,TO NON-ARMENS....) of the what happen to armens or how they became ARMEDMANS ....when they got out the Noah ship( on mt.Ararat....)
Of course ,when the ship arrives there was host waiting outside (the Lucifier)...When the children of Abraham start embarking ,somehow ,the armens , immediatly hand shake and recieved the Grand Deed (tapu) ( conditionally =''on ,sartli) of the region from the LUCIFIER ,who ever else beside them, turns up the stranger and armenians starts genosides.... but since they made the deal with the lucifer which the rules always ,must work backwards ,which is armenians claims, they became the genocide victims ...also, other rule of the LUCIFIER ,the tape , ( the story) must be endless tape and to be repated years and after years as we speaking know...) this armenian ,greek ,kurds issues are not obeying the land of the laws ,where they lived througout history and they refused to call theirself beeing citizen of that country .Wherever they lived in and they becamed molested by enemy of that countrys and always became cry babys after the dust setteled.This is kind of being dui, (drunk driving=etki altinda=sarhos))and being partner with the Lucufer ...(taking orders and gudience from priest not from the Bible, induvacually....)
,Man made organized crime ,with the joint star the Lucufer and no God in it whatsoever...they did deal with the Lucufer as a closed circut t.v (Non Armens must be genoside).Armens ,starts to send the Lucifier Bill of theirs , to the NON -ARMENS. always.....since then and as we speak now , to the current ones ,the Turks....(non armens=made by multi ethnics,,,) (also proverb of Turks created for them ; ERMENI ISTEMEDEN VERMELI;(since they lived under Turk Goverments which is multi-ethnic ...armens refers that Turks and for them, easy way to make the bill...)armens = armedmens and their so called armens genoside ,once a year ,in theirself , the Lucifier Virus vibrates at the highest....(only remedy for them . go to Ankara , with historians , open the archives. They were opened for the Koceryan and open invitation still waiting for them ,withalong ,multiple remaindings for them,but .they afraid to lose and they wont show-up,rather using the hoax issue , as usual ,making under table dealings , filling the pockets ,cannig everybody worldwide,including their own trapped people in armenia from the truth....(the reasons explained above)
REMARKS;
Noticed ,armen the Rich , ignoring to give answers , always ,(backward talkigs.,.etc.always...(as explained above ,stronge exposure to the Lucifier Virus ..) Now , all we know the armens , exposed to the this Lucifier virus long before the Turks they were living under the Turk goverments.... and they did multiple times massacers , to non armens , (to their shipmates...) when they embarked the Noah ' s ship... at Mt .Ararat ( AGRI DAGI = ismini boylece BUTUN AGRILARIN geldigi yer olmasindan almistir....Turk dilindeki essiz ve bir cok yerlerde hakli ve manidar isimlerinden ,sifreli , nedenlerinin gizliligine , en guzel bir ornek ,her zaman incelemege alinirsa aciklik getiren , hedefli ve nedeni olan , gizemli deyisler.le dolup tasarlar....)....and now ,as we are speaking . continue ,.Also , that is why Mt.Ararat , so important to them(you see since Noah Ark , they killed ,lots of NON-Armes, (therefore KAN TUTMASI etkisi altinda kaldilar....)
Unfortunatelly,their mess backed by the Ortodoxs priests and they are only limited , blessing the mess only... so, they can pocket money too...(Ortadokuz cekmekle mesguller...)
Hope ,this explanatios , will help , what was happening to armens the armedmans ( how they becamed of it...),way back then and know and will help to overcome and come clean their the Lucifier virus , with historians results , in ANKARA. according to their LUCIFIER VIRUES SYMPTOMS....they are suffering from and try to send that bill to non armens (P.S; The bill has two meaning 1) fatura demek 2) other meaning of the Bill ( kanun cikartmak)( by fooling or bribing (rusvet vererek) to worldwide , using other goverments at public services , (By wasting those countries tax moneies ) by missusing, passing laws the hoax armen genoside....unproven by the historians...
WITHOUT PROVEN BY THE HISTORIANS in ANKARA(this hoax issue ,currently,limited to worlwide politicians and self interest groups gains , as the hoax subject hostaged from historians result and never given chace to even start , for illegal , multi reasons gains(which is not their own job because ,unproven by the HISTORIANS which is their job. Politicians job is limited to make fastest arraingment to historians do their job in ANKARA and wait......after the resulted endorsement of the historians , politicians are limited to only make it offical....like a,b,c, it is that easy.... (as we speak now and before, there are worldwide , resulted genosieds ,focus on those ,(including your own , resulted ones or still undergoing here in there...domestically or internationally...)) if you really , like to stop , real genosides, and don't fall , for the hoax, so called armen genoside and insult the world.....) and the hoax so called armen genoside clamers and the followers ,busy to filling their pockets illegally ,by using those countries tax monies and they calll theirself their own public servants becams as a JOKE..
http://haber.gazetevatan.com/haberdetay.asp?detay=Ermeni_doktorlar_tarihte_esi_gorulmemis_bir_iskenceyle_esir_olan_15_bin_Turk_a_203375_1&Newsid=203375
. http://www.yayinonline.com/radyo/Anadolunun_Sesi.asp# From list select ANADOLUNUN SESI best sterio music which will cure all your problems GUARANTEE .... If you disconnected click over TRIANGLE MARK.(+)mark volume increase.(-)mark volume decrease ..... To be not to be.....OR Are you one of this OR not...See the related VIDEO.........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsPw649qN9I +++++. . . N O T O SJR-24 & SJR-26 AND WHY........................... WHOEVER IS WILL BE PUBLIC OFFICIALS OR IT IS. THE SUBJECT SO CALLED ARMENS GENOSIDE (UNPROVEN BY THE HISTORIANS NOT GIVEN CHANCE TO EVEN START BECAUSE DIRTY MONEY FOR THEM AND A FEW VOTE.BECAUSE THEY ARE CROOCK)) IS BELONG TO HISTORIANS.AS A POLITICIANS DO NOT STEAL THIS JOB FROM HISTORIANS.IT IS NOT WITHIN YOUR CATOGORY. BEFORE RESULTUD BY THE HISTORIANS YOU ARE USING THIS HOAX SUBJECT IN ORDER TO GET MORE VOTES.IN THIS WAY YOU ARE ALSO WAISTING TAX PAYERS MONEY WHICH PUTS YOU IN THE SPOT BEING DISHONUST FOR ALL THE USA AND ABROAD.AND GIVING DIRTY LOOK OTHER FOREING COUNTRIES..... THIS SO CALLED ARMENS GENOSIDE GENOSIDE (UNPROVEN BY THE HISTORIANS NOT GIVEN CHANCE TO EVEN START BECAUSE DIRTY MONEY FOR THEM AND A FEW VOTE.BECAUSE THEY ARE CROOCK)) BECAUSE OF YOU LOOK LIKES I MEAN BETRADING THE PUBLIC AT LARGE BECAUSE OF A FEW VOTE, and BLACK MONEY NEVER GIVEN CHANCES TO THE HISTORIANS FOR RESULTS. YOU ARE A THIEF BY STEALING THIS JOB FROM HISTORIANS. IF YOU CONSERED REAL RESULTED GENOSIDES YOUR OWN WHICH YOU DID PLEASE FIND BELOW SO KEEPS YOU BUSY. AND BEAR YOUR OWN GUILT IF YOU REALLY HONEST ONE. GO A HEAD AND PROOF TO US ALL US CITIZENS AND WILL BE GLAD TO SEE OUR TAX DOLLARS GOING TO WRIGHT DIRECTIONS.IF YOU DONT YOU ARE BUSTERD....http://people.sabanciuniv.edu/ficici/ Also READ THESE.....from press 15/10/07 ISTE ABD NIN KENDI GENOSIDE=KATLIAM SICILI...USTELIK HOLIVUD KOVBOY FILIMLERI ILE MILYARLARCA DOLAR KAZANIP....BIZLER DAHIL HERKES EGLENCE GORUNUMDE DOGAL BIR SEY GIBI SEYRETTI......GENERAL CUSTER=KASTIR BILE DEAD INDIAN GOOD INDIAN DEDI İşte Amerika'nın soykırım sicili Sözde Ermeni soykırım karar tasarısını Temsilciler Meclisi Dış İlişkiler Komitesi'nde kabul ederek "Tarih hassasiyetini” ortaya koyan ABD yönetimi, kendi tarihindeki kanıtlanmış katliamlara gözlerini kapatıyor Tarihi olaylar hakkında 'oylamalarla' hükme varılamayacağı, bu alandaki araştırmaların, konunun uzmanı tarihçilere bırakılması gerektiği yönündeki çağrıları dikkate almayan ve sözde Ermeni soykırım karar tasarısını kabul ederek 'tarihi hassasiyetini' gösteren ABD Kongresi, kendi tarihindeki kanıtlanmış soykırım ve katliamlara karşı aynı duyarlılığı göstermiyor. Tarihi kızılderili katliamı, zenci köleliği ile lekelenmiş olan, Klu Klux Klan gibi insanlığın ırkçı örgütlere yataklık eden, modern tarihinde ise Vietnam'dan Afganistan'a, Irak'a kadar sayısız savaş ve çatışmaya neden olan ABD, tarihindeki bu lekelerle yüzleşmek yerine, başka ülkeleri insan hakları ihlaller ya da soykırımla suçlamayı tercih ediyor. 19. ASIRDAN FELLUCE'YE ABD vatandaşı iki Yahudi gencin sahibi olduğu internet arama motoru 'Google'da yüzeysel bir arama yapıldığında bile ABD'nin sicilinin temiz olmadığı ortaya çıkıyor. İşte ABD'nin işgal ve soykırım sicili: 1898: Meksika'yı işgal etti, aynı yıl Küba'ya girdi.. 1921: Nikaragua'yi isgal etti, Sandino ve 300 kişiyi katletti. 1945: Hiroşima ve Nagazaki kentlerine atom bombası attı, 250.000 kişiyi katletti. 1950-53: Yüz binlerce Koreli'yi katletti. 1954: Binlerce Guatemalalı'yı katletti. 1955: Endonezya, Laos, Kambocya'da çok sayıda CIA operasyonu düzenlendi. 1950-59: Küba'da 60.000 kişi ABD destekli Batista birliklerince katledildi. 1975: Vietnam'dan kovuldugunda ardında 170.000 ölü, 80.000 sakat, onbinlerce tecavüz olayı bıraktı. 1970-75'te Kamboçya ve Laos'ta 1.000.000 kişiyi katletti. 1983: Lübnan'da 14.000 deniz piyadesi binlerce kişiyi katletti ve aynı yıl Grenada'da yüzlerce kişiyi katletti. 1989: Panama'ya asker çıkarttı, 5.000 Panamalı'nın ölümüne sebep oldu. 1991: Irak'a saldırdı ve100.000'nin üzerinde Iraklı'nın öldü. 2003: Irak'ı işgal etti. Ve akan kan hâlâ durdurulamıyor. 80 milyon Kızılderiliden geriye 10 milyon kaldı Amerika'nın yerlileri olan Kızılderililer, sömürgeciler kıtaya varmadan önce o topraklarda yaşamaktaydılar. “Beyaz adamlar” Yeni Dünya'ya vardıklarında dünyada toplam 400 milyon insan yaşıyordu. Bu insanların beşte biri ise bu kıtadaydı. Bugün Amerika'da çok az sayıda yerli yaşıyor. Yani 80 milyon Kızılderili'den 70 milyonu öldürülmek ve köle olarak satılmak suretiyle Amerika'dan silindi. Avrupalılar Amerikalı Kızılderilileri köle olarak satmak için gemilerle Avrupa'ya taşırlarken bir yandan da Afrikalıları aynı amaçla Amerika'ya taşıyorlardı. ALSO READ THIS....Turkish Republic owes to the WORLD passing AMERIKAN INDIANS GENOSIDE bill by the USA to the confisud world WHAT IS REAL GENOSIDE IS............TURKISH REPUBLIC MUST PASS AMERICAN INDIANS GENOSIDE (which is 100 persont pure genoside in the world)AGAINST USA AND TURKISH REPUBLIC MUST SHOW BY THIS ACTION TO THE WORLD (confiused world do not know what is genoside really) AS TODAY....THIS IS DUTY FROM THE TURKS TO THE MANKIND IN THE WORLD IN THIS ISSUE....AND EDUCATE THE HANDFULL MAFIA LIKE POLITICIANS IN THE WORLD.. AND SAVE MILLIONS OF THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD BEING HOSTAGE WHAT IS REALLY GENOSIDE.......ACT KNOW...WORLD IS WAITING YOU AS TURKISH REPUBLIC....(BELOW FIND THE AMERICAN INDIANS PURE GENOSIDE ARTICLE WHICH USA GOVERMENT FOUNDED . TOP OF IT FROM SCRATCH ............NOW WHOEVER YOU ARE AND CLAIM YOURSELF SO CONCERN ABOUT GENOSIDES THIS SO CALLED ARMENS GENOSIDE (UNPROVEN BY THE HISTORIANS YET) CROOK POLITICIANS AND UNDERGROUND OPERATIONS PAYING YOUR DIRTY BILLS ILLEGALLY THAT IS WHY YOU ARE NOT LETTING THE HISTORIANS DO THEIR JOBS WITH RESULTS BEFORE THAN YOU ARE THE BUSTERD FOOLING ALL OF US WITH OUR TAX MONEIES.....CARVE THIS IN YOUR FOREHEAD...THIS IS NOT PROVEN YET BY THE HISTORIANS. THEREFORE IT IS NOT YOUR BUSSINES IN THESE STAGE..... DIP NOT;HEY POLITICIANS WHY YOU MAKING YOURSELF ALSO JACK ASS AND GETTING IN TO SUBJECT WITHOUT PROVEN BY THE HISTORIANS,,,AND VAISTING PEOPLE TAX MONIES AND GETTING BLACK MONEY FOR YOURSELF AND A FEW VOTES. IF YOU HONEST AND AFTER HISTORIANS WORKED ON IT WITH THE RESULTS YOU WOULD GET MORE VOTES AND YOU WILL BE HONERED BY THE PEOPLE....PLEASE DONT BE LOWER YOUR GRADE FOR THE PEOPLE HERE AND ABROAD..... ALSO DO YOU NO GOOD YOU ARE COMING OUT AS POLITICIANS ON ONE SIDE AND I AM OTHER SIDE AS CITIZEN NOW TELL YOU SOMETHING SINCE YOU ARE STUPID AND DISHONESTED SHOWING UP FOR PUPLIC. TELL YOU HOW THE BEST WAY WHAT YOU SHOULD BE SAYING.......HERE IT IS; THIS SO CALLED ARMENIAN GENOSIDE NOT RESULTED BY THE HISTORIANS WHICH BELONG TO THEM NOT TO ME .I WANT HISTORIANS FINISH THEIR WORKS IMMEDIATLY AND I WILL WORK FOR THIS HAPPENS AND RESULTED BY THEM.AFTER RESULTED IT IS MY JOB TALKED ABOUT IT ANYWHERE I WANT. YOU SEE IUT IS EASY LIKE ABC...NOW YOU GET VOTES FROM BOTH SIDES PLENTY OF IT..... ONLY YOU WILL MISSED THE DIRTY MONEY AND USING THIS UNFINISH SUBJET LIKE A CHEWING GUM AND YOU WILL WAIST YOUR ENERGY NEGATIVE WAY AND DIVADING THE PUBLIC IN USA AND AROUND THE WORLD.... AS SINNERS.... _______ UFO noticed the article about so called genoside and numbers of missing armenians with along constintly purpuously with fabricated stories from handful mafia armenians such as KOCERYAN years after years for underground operations for the benefit of handful armenians(which majority armenians also being hostage from truths.UFO also realesed their archives in this issue states that no armenians being abducted furhermore many armenians beeing observed leavig by the French,English,Italian,and to multi international countries with political gains over Turks.UFO also includes latest censor results taken in armenia about stil where is going these ordinary armenias really in the past and present with the same motifs.Please do find below additions useful for yourself NOT TO BE SCAMMED ANYMORE.....Gonderen:UFO Tarih : 01/12/07 http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2007/12/01/dunya/adun.html ALSO Please do find one of the usefull UFO realeses previously how to stop this hoax matter.....ARMENIAN STUCK WITH GENOSIDE VIRUS AND HERE IS REMEDY FOR THEM.... this hoaxs so called GENOSIDE solutions is very simple.HERE it is HOW: Each person who hears armenian genoside must tell party. TURKS CALLED KOCERYAN TO THE TABLE with historians to get endorsment first so far armenians afraid they will lose .they dont respond. they chose to hostage the subject from historians. handfull armenians made hostege also ordinary millions armenians from the truth. subject being used underground operation=mafia=special interest making billions year after year with tax payers monies....Also EVERY MONTH TURKISH GOVERMENT MUST MAKE TAPE RECORDER TO WORLD PRESS SAYING THAT THIS MONTH ARMENIANS DIDNT COME TO THE TABLE IN ANKARA WITH HISTORIAN CLEARENCE BECAUSE THEY AFRAID AGAIN THEY WILL LOOSE.... YES UFO RECOMMEN D THIS FOR ARMENIAN CRAP CAN BE STOP FOR THEM....HEY KOCERYAN ARE YOU STILL LAVE YOUR ARMENIAS FROM THE TRUTH BY NOT COMING THE TABLE ...you alreay have millions with your associates...by coming the table your trapped ordinary armenians will have chance make money too.... ESCAPES FROM ARMENIA TO TURKEY FROM ARMENIAN GENOSIDE.....http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2007/12/31/son/sontur58.asp?prm=095344555752 ARMENIANS STUCK WITH THE GENOSIDE VIRUS.WHILE THEY WERE GOT OUT THE NOAH S SHIP AFTER THE BIG FLOOD THEY HANDSHAKE WITH THE LUCIFIER AND CONTAMINATED WITH LUCIFIER VIRUS... ......... ----------------------------- ++++++++++Watched movie so called armeniam genocide on channel 50 the armenian serving station.the movie was about after the big flood when the armenians get of the noah's ship they immediatly hand shake and recieved the deed of the region from the LUCIFIER who ever else beside them turns up stranger and armenians starts genosides.... but since they made the deal with the lucifer which the rules always must work backwards which armenians claims they became genocide victims ...also other rule of the LUCIFIER the tape(story) must be endless tape and to be repated years and after years as we speaking know ......(and seen many genocide happens by them since then) Film maker is jews who oppose to love of Moses and also connected to the LUCIFIER also looks fat on the introduction becuse of leaving his jews diet had lots of armenian free meals one after another and begs to to be donations one dollar or fifty cents even eartlhy belongins from wiewers...As above the game of The LUCIFIER must backwards and the tape (story) must be endless tape and.,.with their demonized helpers (because of dollars made and get some evil taste..)Rating i give the movie in the catogory of performance Of the LUCIFIER is 10 but .naturally it is impossible to have GOD in it(in GOD catogary) I GAVE BELOW ZERO...+++++++this armenian greek kurds issues are not obeying the land of the laws where they lived througout history and they refused to call theirself beeing citizen of that country wherever they lived in and they becamed molested by enemy of that countrys and always became cry babys after the dust setteled.this is kind of being dui (drunk diving)and being partner with lucufer(taking orders and gudience from priest not from the bible induvacually.manmade organized crime with joint star lucufer no god in it whatsoever...they did deal with lucufer as a closed circut t.v (Non Armens must be genoside).+++++++Please notice that armenian,greek, kurd, surbians ,rusians follow the ortodoxs priest doing so is same as followers of the LUCUFER which no god in it.Same thing in common they do share through out history also joins demonized helpers (ENEMY of THE TURKISH REPUBLIC)such as U.S.A. Rusians.Greeks,british.french ,italian etc...++++++As their anniversary all we do see outbreake of the LUCIFIER virus .Starts to vibrate again .To cure it and before throwup etc....they must remember the NOAH s ship and 24 Hours and 7 days they must priactice The BIBLE among WITH NON ARMENS and STOP SENDING THE LUCIFIER BILLS TO NON ARMENS,while they do that and the lucifier looks like the bird of the OSTERICH ( this bird thinks hiding itself by burriying little head in the bush or in the sand but all the body and big ass complete outside)This is the same style of the LUCIFIER ... how works among us .....+++++ This is from Hurriyet (press)......Ermeni vahşetinin Rus görgü tanığı 24 Mart 2007 A.A. Genelkurmay Başkanlığı, Ermenilerin doğu cephesinde yaptıklarına görgü tanıklığı eden Rus yarbayın günlüğünü yayımladı. Genelkurmay ATASE Başkanlığınca yayımlanan “Gördüklerim Anılarım” adlı anı kitabında, Birinci Dünya Savaşı sırasında, 1917 yılı sonları ile 1918 yılı ilk aylarında, Erzurum'da 2. Ermeni-Rus Kale Topçu Alay Komutanlığı yapan Rus Yarbay Tverdohlebov'un el yazısıyla tuttuğu günlüğündeki notlarına yer verildi. Rus yarbayın günlüğünde Ermeni vahşetinin boyutları, akıl almaz katliamları gözler önüne serilirken, “Ermeniler oldukça yeteneksiz, asalak, açgözlü, ancak başka bir milletin sırtından geçinebilen bir millet saymak mümkündür” deniliyor. Notlarda, “Ermeni askerler en aşağılık, en adi sınıftan sayılmışlardır. Bunlar, her zaman geri hizmetlerde görev yapmak için gayret göstermişler, cepheden kaçmışlardır” ifadeleri yer alıyor. Türkçe, İngilizce, Fransızca ve orijinalın tıpkı basımı (Rusça) şekliyle hazırlanan kitap, Genelkurmay Başkanlığının internet sitesinde de yayımlandı. Sitede yer alan bilgi notunda, “Gördüklerim ve duyduklarım Ermenilerle ilgili her türlü tahmin ve tasavvur sınırlarını fazlasıyla aşmıştır diyen Yarbay Tverdohlebov'un anıları, Ermeni iddialarına verilebilecek en güzel cevap niteliğindedir” denildi+++++++++ Sadece Israil cikarina hizmet eden ve KOLE ARAYAN yalanci ve sinsi Bush yonetiminden dazlak ve cilali ve parlak kafali Cheny Ankara yi KAZIKLAMAK icin geliyor. Dazlak ve cok parlak kafasindaki isik yansimasindan Gozlerinizin KOR OLMAMASI icin SIYAH RENKLI GOZLUKLER giyilmesi ve KULAKLARININIZI TIKAMANIZ vucut ve can sagliginiz icin ACIL KODUYLA DUYURULUR..... From press http://www.stargazete.com/index.asp?haberID=148825 ++++++++ Ah Su HAHAMBASLARI (ve bunun Gibileri ve takipcileri) From press........http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/gundem/8512507.asp?gid=229&sz=47705 (ASAGIDAKI YORUM INSANIN HER GUN KARSILASTIGI IYI VE SEYTANIN NASIL MESAFE YAPTIGINA DEGINEN EGITIMSEL VE GERCEKLI BIR IZAHATTIR...) BUTUN HAHAMBASILAR SADECE DIGER HAHAMBASINI TAKIP EDER... MUSA dan ve onun insan askindan VE ALLAH ASKINDAN nefret ederler.Onun icin HAHAM baslari destegiyle MOSAD gizli servisi kurulmus ve SADECE HAHAMBASLARININ VE SADECE seytansal POLITIK VE PARASAL CIKARINI ve MUSA nin ismini ve onun Allaha olan askini ve insanin ALLAHA sevgisini ONLEMEK ICIN.... ( HAHAMBASI VE HAHAMLAR ALLAHIN ILK YAZILI EMRI OLAN TEVRAT TA ANIDEN ALLAHA KARSI OLARAK SEYTANI TEMSIL ETMEK ICIN ILK SIRADA ROL ALMAK TA KARAR VERMISLER) TEVRAT ve INCIL de HAHAMBASLARI ve SADECE ONLARIN TAKIPCILERI ALLAHIN GAZABINA DEFALARCA UGRAMISLARDIR,HEPSININ OZETI OLAN KURAN BUNU ACIKCA SON OLARAK BELIRLER.... (hahambaslarinin suphe cekmeyen VEYA supheyi o an icin farkedemeyenleri de dahil ucuncu parti olarak kullanmalari( ISA nin ROMA lilar tarafindan oldurtulme tezgahligi VE bunun her gun ARAMIZ DA tekrar edilmesi ve SEYTANIN tekrar tekrar memnun ettirmekteki kararliliklari icin HER GUN DEVAMINI SAGLAMAK HAHAMLARIN TEK GOREVI DIR VE AYNI MODELI DEGISIK TOPLUMLARDA DA DUNYA CAPIN DA GERCEKLESTIRILMESINDEN SEYTANA HIZMET VERMEK ICIN ILK ON SIRAYI TUTMAK ICIN YEMIN ETMISLERDIR...)) AYNI ZAMAN DA ALLAHA KARSI VE SEYTAN CIKARI NA YAPTIRIMA KATILAN YANI SEYTANA YENIK DUSEN KISILER DE VE BUNA EN UFAK BILE KATKI YAPANLAR DA ALLAH TARAFIN DAN HAHAMBASI VEYA HAHAM SIFATI TASIMASA BILE AYNI CEZALI DURUMDA OLDUKLARI YANI SEN VE BEN OLARAK GUNCEL YASAMIMIZ DA IMA EDILIYOR....... ATALARIMIZIN DEDIGI GIBI DE ELEMTERE FIS KEM GOZLERE SIS DIYEREK. ALLAHA YAKINLIGIMIZI 24 SAAT 7 GUN ALLAHA VE BIRBIRIMIZE ISPATLAYALIM.....BOL SANSLAR.......( ILAVE http://www.stargazete.com/index.asp?haberID=148662 CHINA HELPS TURKISH GOVERMENT IN POLITICS.... fROM PRESS....CHINA TEACHES THE USA HUMAN RIGHTS TO USA(BUT TURKISH GOVERMENT DOESNT DEFEND ITSELF ON USA CHARGES)(UNFORTUNATELLY TURKISH GOVERMENT BUSY BREAKING LAIKLIK LAWS AND ATATURK ILKELERI AND ETC. WHERE TURKISH REPUBLIC FOUND ON IT.... From press http://yenisafak.com.tr/dunya/?t=14.03.2008&c=4&i=105441----------------------------- USA WON AGAIN THE PRIZE (THE BEST DOUBLE FACE) Details on http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/dunya/8354535.asp?gid=229&sz=12775 AND ALSO http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/gundem/8393855.asp?gid=229&sz=28371 AGAIN and AGAIN ...From press .....http://w9.gazetevatan.com/haberdetay.asp?tarih=28.02.2008&Newsid=164459&Categoryid=1 ,,,, Once more USA SHOWS support and PROOF of terorisim =USA double face=Faceles=USA needs terorisim so he can sell more guns = American intrests=Whatever makes money with no morals=USA couldnt be friend because orcestra terorisim with CIA= here previously repeating news once more .......Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 USA HAS TO COME CLEAN by HITTING TERORIST TARGET HIMSELF UNDER HIS CONTROL Conguralitions to USA ...Just made 20 million dollars...by giving double informaions to terorist and to Turks.USA expects more gun sales to both sides very easly...and Turks can built again the empty concrete buildings....nice going to USA..... USA has to come clean by hitting terorist himself which is under his control... not looking profits from both sides.... OTHERWISE USA STILL SUPPORT TERORISIM FOR THE BIG PROFITS IN THE WORLD ON GUN SALES..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 USA PLANS TO TRICK TURKS ONCE MORE.... FOR ITS DIRTY WORKS..... http://www.yenisafak.com.tr/dunya/?t=11.12.2007&c=4&i=86927 ---------------------------------- NEW U.S.EMBASSADOR TO ANKARA (as brained wash and kissed ass so called armen genoside....) http://www.milliyet.com.tr/Dunya/HaberDetay.aspx?aType=HaberDetay&Kategori=dunya&KategoriID=&ArticleID=998185&Date=02.10.2008&b=Yeni%20buyukelciden%20Ermeni%20yaniti...&ver=46---------------------------------------------- USA EMBASSADOR in ANKARA Ross Wilyims should be kicked-out which embassy (VERY MUCH OVERDUE) became CIA head quarters being contacts some ethnic turks to be used against Turkish Republic to many dinners, party invitations, frequent trips in Turkey and contacts and bad speaches for it which hurts two state relations and are being made with USA tax payers money for covert operations hurting the State to State relations between two country and much more.... (activities getting to be more HORNEY in each time....) . FLASH...FLASH.... ULTIMATE SOLUTION FOR USA ECONOMY,,,here how it is; As everybody knows whenever USA goverment needs more money he just prints for himself,now the idea is the same goverment money printing machine maksimum recommended size must be 2X2 feets in model must be given to each houshould and each houshold responsible the amount of the money to be print and meet their expecess,,,,this will solve all USA economic problems... ____________________ ANY OTHER WAYS WILL NEVER WORK...IT WILL LOOK LIKE ONE DAY STAND ONLY ... ANY CURRENT TRYS ...IT WILL BE EVEN WORST THAN (NOT ENOUGH)ONE DAY X-MAS GIFT supplys to here among us,,, IMAGINE,IN YOUR FIRST MODEL MACHINE GIVEN TO YOUR HOUSHOLD ,NO MORE FINANCIAL PROBLEMS..... recommendations politicians and how to look good domestic and abroad...WHOEVER IS WILL BE PUBLIC OFFICIALS OR IT IS. THE SUBJECT SO CALLED ARMENS GENOSIDE (UNPROVEN BY THE HISTORIANS NOT GIVEN CHANCE TO EVEN START BECAUSE DIRTY MONEY FOR THEM AND A FEW VOTE.BECAUSE THEY ARE CROOCK)) IS BELONG TO HISTORIANS.AS A POLITICIANS DO NOT STEAL THIS JOB FROM HISTORIANS.IT IS NOT WITHIN YOUR CATOGORY. BEFORE RESULTUD BY THE HISTORIANS YOU ARE USING THIS HOAX SUBJECT IN ORDER TO GET MORE VOTES.IN THIS WAY YOU ARE ALSO WAISTING TAX PAYERS MONEY WHICH PUTS YOU IN THE SPOT BEING DISHONUST FOR ALL THE USA AND ABROAD.AND GIVING DIRTY LOOK OTHER FOREING COUNTRIES..... THIS SO CALLED ARMENS GENOSIDE GENOSIDE (UNPROVEN BY THE HISTORIANS NOT GIVEN CHANCE TO EVEN START BECAUSE DIRTY MONEY FOR THEM AND A FEW VOTE.BECAUSE THEY ARE CROOCK)) BECAUSE OF YOU LOOK LIKES I MEAN BETRADING THE PUBLIC AT LARGE BECAUSE OF A FEW VOTE, and BLACK MONEY NEVER GIVEN CHANCES TO THE HISTORIANS FOR RESULTS. YOU ARE A THIEF BY STEALING THIS JOB FROM HISTORIANS. IF YOU CONSERED REAL RESULTED GENOSIDES YOUR OWN WHICH YOU DID PLEASE FIND BELOW SO KEEPS YOU BUSY. AND BEAR YOUR OWN GUILT IF YOU REALLY HONEST ONE. GO A HEAD AND PROOF TO US ALL US CITIZENS AND WILL BE GLAD TO SEE OUR TAX DOLLARS GOING TO WRIGHT DIRECTIONS.IF YOU DONT YOU ARE BUSTERD....http://people.sabanciuniv.edu/ficici/ Also READ THESE.....from press 15/10/07 ISTE ABD NIN KENDI GENOSIDE=KATLIAM SICILI...USTELIK HOLIVUD KOVBOY FILIMLERI ILE MILYARLARCA DOLAR KAZANIP....BIZLER DAHIL HERKES EGLENCE GORUNUMDE DOGAL BIR SEY GIBI SEYRETTI......GENERAL CUSTER=KASTIR BILE DEAD INDIAN GOOD INDIAN DEDI İşte Amerika'nın soykırım sicili Sözde Ermeni soykırım karar tasarısını Temsilciler Meclisi Dış İlişkiler Komitesi'nde kabul ederek "Tarih hassasiyetini” ortaya koyan ABD yönetimi, kendi tarihindeki kanıtlanmış katliamlara gözlerini kapatıyor Tarihi olaylar hakkında 'oylamalarla' hükme varılamayacağı, bu alandaki araştırmaların, konunun uzmanı tarihçilere bırakılması gerektiği yönündeki çağrıları dikkate almayan ve sözde Ermeni soykırım karar tasarısını kabul ederek 'tarihi hassasiyetini' gösteren ABD Kongresi, kendi tarihindeki kanıtlanmış soykırım ve katliamlara karşı aynı duyarlılığı göstermiyor. Tarihi kızılderili katliamı, zenci köleliği ile lekelenmiş olan, Klu Klux Klan gibi insanlığın ırkçı örgütlere yataklık eden, modern tarihinde ise Vietnam'dan Afganistan'a, Irak'a kadar sayısız savaş ve çatışmaya neden olan ABD, tarihindeki bu lekelerle yüzleşmek yerine, başka ülkeleri insan hakları ihlaller ya da soykırımla suçlamayı tercih ediyor. 19. ASIRDAN FELLUCE'YE ABD vatandaşı iki Yahudi gencin sahibi olduğu internet arama motoru 'Google'da yüzeysel bir arama yapıldığında bile ABD'nin sicilinin temiz olmadığı ortaya çıkıyor. İşte ABD'nin işgal ve soykırım sicili: 1898: Meksika'yı işgal etti, aynı yıl Küba'ya girdi.. 1921: Nikaragua'yi isgal etti, Sandino ve 300 kişiyi katletti. 1945: Hiroşima ve Nagazaki kentlerine atom bombası attı, 250.000 kişiyi katletti. 1950-53: Yüz binlerce Koreli'yi katletti. 1954: Binlerce Guatemalalı'yı katletti. 1955: Endonezya, Laos, Kambocya'da çok sayıda CIA operasyonu düzenlendi. 1950-59: Küba'da 60.000 kişi ABD destekli Batista birliklerince katledildi. 1975: Vietnam'dan kovuldugunda ardında 170.000 ölü, 80.000 sakat, onbinlerce tecavüz olayı bıraktı. 1970-75'te Kamboçya ve Laos'ta 1.000.000 kişiyi katletti. 1983: Lübnan'da 14.000 deniz piyadesi binlerce kişiyi katletti ve aynı yıl Grenada'da yüzlerce kişiyi katletti. 1989: Panama'ya asker çıkarttı, 5.000 Panamalı'nın ölümüne sebep oldu. 1991: Irak'a saldırdı ve100.000'nin üzerinde Iraklı'nın öldü. 2003: Irak'ı işgal etti. Ve akan kan hâlâ durdurulamıyor. 80 milyon Kızılderiliden geriye 10 milyon kaldı Amerika'nın yerlileri olan Kızılderililer, sömürgeciler kıtaya varmadan önce o topraklarda yaşamaktaydılar. “Beyaz adamlar” Yeni Dünya'ya vardıklarında dünyada toplam 400 milyon insan yaşıyordu. Bu insanların beşte biri ise bu kıtadaydı. Bugün Amerika'da çok az sayıda yerli yaşıyor. Yani 80 milyon Kızılderili'den 70 milyonu öldürülmek ve köle olarak satılmak suretiyle Amerika'dan silindi. Avrupalılar Amerikalı Kızılderilileri köle olarak satmak için gemilerle Avrupa'ya taşırlarken bir yandan da Afrikalıları aynı amaçla Amerika'ya taşıyorlardı. ALSO READ THIS....Turkish Republic owes to the WORLD passing AMERIKAN INDIANS GENOSIDE bill by the USA to the confisud world WHAT IS REAL GENOSIDE IS............TURKISH REPUBLIC MUST PASS AMERICAN INDIANS GENOSIDE (which is 100 persont pure genoside in the world)AGAINST USA AND TURKISH REPUBLIC MUST SHOW BY THIS ACTION TO THE WORLD (confiused world do not know what is genoside really) AS TODAY....THIS IS DUTY FROM THE TURKS TO THE MANKIND IN THE WORLD IN THIS ISSUE....AND EDUCATE THE HANDFULL MAFIA LIKE POLITICIANS IN THE WORLD.. AND SAVE MILLIONS OF THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD BEING HOSTAGE WHAT IS REALLY GENOSIDE.......ACT KNOW...WORLD IS WAITING YOU AS TURKISH REPUBLIC....(BELOW FIND THE AMERICAN INDIANS PURE GENOSIDE ARTICLE WHICH USA GOVERMENT FOUNDED . TOP OF IT FROM SCRATCH ............NOW WHOEVER YOU ARE AND CLAIM YOURSEF SO CONCERN ABOUT GENOSIDES THIS SO CALLED ARMENS GENOSIDE (UNPROVEN BY THE HISTORIANS YET) CROOK POLITICIANS AND UNDERGROUND OPERATIONS PAYING YOUR DIRTY BILLS ILLEGALLY THAT IS WHY YOU ARE NOT LETTING THE HISTORIANS DO THEIR JOBS WITH RESULTS BEFORE THAN YOU ARE THE BUSTERD FOOLING ALL OF US WITH OUR TAX MONEIES.....CARVE THIS IN YOUR FOREHEAD...THIS IS NOT PROVEN YET BY THE HISTORIANS. THEREFORE IT IS NOT YOUR BUSSINES IN THESE STAGE..... DIP NOT;HEY POLITICIANS WHY YOU MAKING YOURSELF ALSO JACK ASS AND GETTING IN TO SUBJECT WITHOUT PROVEN BY THE HISTORIANS,,,AND VASTIG PEOPLE TAX MONIES AND GETTING BLACK MONEY FOR YOURSELF AND A FEW VOTES. IF YOU HONEST AND AFTER HISTORIANS WORKED ON IT WITH THE RESULTS YOU WOULD GET MORE VOTES AND YOU WILL BE HONERED BY THE PEOPLE....PLEASE DONT BE LOWER YOUR GRADE FOR THE PEOPLE HERE AND ABROAD..... ALSO DO YOU GOOD YOU ARE COMING OUT AS POLITICIANS ON ONE SIDE AND I AM OTHER SIDE AS CITIZEN NOW TELL YOU SOMETHING SINCE YOU ARE STUPID AND DISHONESTED SHOWING UP FOR PUPLIC. TELL YOU HOW THE BEST WAY WHAT YOU SHOULD BE SAYING.......HERE IT IS; THIS SO CALLED ARMENIAN GENOSIDE NOT RESULTED BY THE HISTORIANS WHICH BELONG TO THEM NOT TO ME .I WANT HISTORIANS FINISH THEIR WORKS IMMEDIATLY AND I WILL WORK FOR THIS HAPPENS AND RESULTED BY THEM.AFTER RESULTED IT IS MY JOB TALKED ABOUT IT ANYWHERE I WANT. YOU SEE IUT IS EASY LIKE ABC...NOW YOU GET VOTES FROM BOTH SIDES PLENTY OF IT..... ONLY YOU WILL MISSED THE DIRTY MONEY AND USING THIS UNFINISH SUBJET LIKE A CHEWING GUM AND YOU WILL WAIST YOUR ENERGY NEGATIVE WAY AND DIVADING THE PUBLIC IN USA AND AROUND THE WORLD.... AS SINNERS.... __________ WARNING TO THE POLITICIANS IN TURKEY...which is DO NOT MENTION anything regarding TURBAN (basortusu) or try to put in agenda.You will be under violation on LAIKLIK (religion on regarding in items in TURKISH REPUBLIC umberalla at large.Induvucually you may do in your privite life and times except in official hours on duty on public buildings.....Since founder ATATURK wants you come in your senses doing so in this way which is mandotary for public safty at large in govermental level which founded on.Since his time basortusu is not pullud out from ordinary citizens heads in their belives and daily lives. The messages given by him stronlgy to you politicians and holding chair for the name of the public levels and explained by laws what where how you should be presented in benefit to all for us.......YOUR ONLY GOAL SHOULD BE HOW THE BEST WAY SERVE TO THE TURKISH REPUBLIC and hands off any religious or spiritual items or subjects....people indivucually know what to do in these subjects in their lives ....Ataturk indicated all the physicall aspects by the laws to everybody UNDER THE TURKISH REPUBLIC....TO MAKE YOU MORE UNDERSTAND CLICK OVER THIS AND READ .http://w9.gazetevatan.com/haberdetay.asp?tarih=28.01.2008&Newsid=159149&Categoryid=9 ALSO always you should remember GREEK and armenians ORTODAX HEAD CHURCH (in Istanbul ) always has been praying to the ancient multi greek gods.Therefore no special gain for them in Turkish soilAs they repeadly making politicical issue If they need more they shold go to the PARTENON which is headquarters of the GREEK GODS)(Topraklarimizda sadece Turkiye ye ve Turklere karsi ORTADOKUZ CEKMEYE DEVAM EDEN BIR CEMAAT OLARAK KALMALILAR) In Istanbul In that premises there is ONE DOOR WITH PADLOCK(kilit)ON IT AND THAT DOOR WILL NEVER WILL BE OPEN UNLESS ONE TURK BEEING HANGED(sacrifised)They are hiding behind of the cros but warshipping to greek gods against Turks always.That is why no peace will be between greeks ,Armens and Turks....Under the best demokrasi in the world in Turkey they are allowed to do so only without given more demaging benefits to them by the TURKISH GOVERMENT. to the Turkish goverment and multi ethnic citizens of it NATURALLY CALLED T U R K I S H to pissed off the enemies .....YOU ARE UNDER OBLIGATION TO FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES OF THE ATATURK WHICH IS FOUNDER OF THE TURKISH REPUBLIC AND YOU CAME WILLINGLY TO SERVE on limited terms FOR IT BY THE LAWS REGARDING YOUR SPIRUTURAL OR ETHNIC BACKGROUND AS A PROUD OF ONE OF THE TURKISH......Also read this http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2008/02/03/guncel/axgun03.html-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 New cure found for SARKOZY (saRkozi Sizofrania) the enzime in Turkish escardo(suluk) where in Black Sea coast of Turkey(facing russia which is an Eurupan country)Also, the second Turkish escardo(suluk)on Eagean coast of Turkey(facing Greece a Europan country) and also in the Mediterranian Coast of Turkey(facing Cyprees which is in Europe) HERE IS HOW TO SARKOZY CAN CURE HIMSELF: Daily empty stomack one pound each from these 3 locations he must consume daily and he must drink ONLY one of world famous Turkish wine on his choise for his life time...This also,will lift THE CURSE FROM GREEK GODS for his vision problems.... ALSO, please ,find the Future Offical Drink of the EU "SULUK ON THE ROCK" (All the ingredients must be from Turkey due to the special healing enzimes....) (The Land Of The GARDEN of EDEN as mentioned in the BIBLE) Here is the recepie :( As explained above ) 1-Same amount SULUK from the mentionod 3 locations 2- only mix with the world famuous Turkish wine (red or white your choise 3- and VALA ready to go it is that easy.... http://www.yenisafak.com.tr/dunya/?t=12.01.2008&c=4&i=92785 and my sometime ago comment about Sarkozy past and his future came true... which was......New cure found for SARKOZY (saRkozi Sizofrania) the enzime in Turkish escardo(suluk) where in Black Sea coast of Turkey(facing russia which is an Eurupan country)Also, the second Turkish escardo(suluk)on Eagean coast of Turkey(facing Greece a Europan country) and also in the Mediterranian Coast of Turkey(facing Cyprees which is in Europe) HERE IS HOW TO SARKOZY CAN CURE HIMSELF: Daily empty stomack one pound each from these 3 locations he must consume daily and he must drink ONLY one of world famous Turkish wine on his choise for his life time...This also,will lift THE CURSE FROM GREEK GODS for his vision problems.... ALSO, please ,find the Future Offical Drink of the EU "SULUK ON THE ROCK" (All the ingredients must be from Turkey due to the special healing enzimes....) (The Land Of The GARDEN of EDEN as mentioned in the BIBLE) Here is the recepie :( As explained above ) 1-Same amount SULUK from the mentionod 3 locations 2- only mix with the world famuous Turkish wine (red or white your choise 3- and VALA ready to go it is that easy.... BABACAN vs. GREEK GODS BABACAN EMBARESES THE GREEK GODS WITH HIS SMILE,WHILE THEY HORRASES TURKISH FISHERMANS AND PLANES... MEVLANA WELCOMES YOU...http://www.yenisafak.com.tr/aktuel/?t=29.12.2007&c=5&i=90139 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 SASUNYAN YOU HAD TO BE IN ANKARA FOR YOUR http://www.yenisafak.com.tr/dunya/?t=14.12.2007&c=4&i=87382 UFO noticed the article about so called genoside and numbers of missing armenians with along constintly purpuously with fabricated stories from handful mafia armenians such as KOCERYAN years after years for underground operations for the benefit of handful armenians(which majority armenians also being hostage from truths.UFO also realesed their archives in this issue states that no armenians being abducted furhermore many armenians beeing observed leavig by the French,English,Italian,and to multi international countries with political gains over Turks.UFO also includes latest censor results taken in armenia about stil where is going these ordinary armenias really in the past and present with the same motifs.Please do find below additions useful for yourself NOT TO BE SCAMMED ANYMORE.....Gonderen:UFO Tarih : 01/12/07 http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2007/12/01/dunya/adun.html ALSO Please do find one of the usefull UFO realeses previously how to stop this hoax matter.....ARMENIAN STUCK WITH GENOSIDE VIRUS AND HERE IS REMEDY FOR THEM.... this hoaxs so called GENOSIDE solutions is very simple.HERE it is HOW: Each person who hears armenian genoside must tell party. TURKS CALLED KOCERYAN TO THE TABLE with historians to get endorsment first so far armenians afraid they will lose .they dont respond. they chose to hostage the subject from historians. handfull armenians made hostege also ordinary millions armenians from the truth. subject being used underground operation=mafia=special interest making billions year after year with tax payers monies....Also EVERY MONTH TURKISH GOVERMENT MUST MAKE TAPE RECORDER TO WORLD PRESS SAYING THAT THIS MONTH ARMENIANS DIDNT COME TO THE TABLE IN ANKARA WITH HISTORIAN CLEARENCE BECAUSE THEY AFRAID AGAIN THEY WILL LOOSE.... YES UFO RECOMMEN D THIS FOR ARMENIAN CRAP CAN BE STOP FOR THEM....HEY KOCERYAN ARE YOU STILL LAVE YOUR ARMENIAS FROM THE TRUTH BY NOT COMING THE TABLE ...you alreay have millions with your associates...by coming the table your trapped ordinary armenians will have chance make money too.... ESCAPES FROM ARMENIA TO TURKEY FROM ARMENIAN GENOSIDE.....http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2007/12/31/son/sontur58.asp?prm=095344555752 ARMENIANS STUCK WITH THE GENOSIDE VIRUS.WHILE THEY WERE GOT OUT THE NOAH S SHIP AFTER THE BIG FLOOD THEY HANDSHAKE WITH THE LUCIFIER AND CONTAMINATED WITH LUCIFIER VIRUS... ......... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 SOYKIRIM iste soykirimin gercek yuzu.... http://people.sabanciuniv.edu/ficici/ DREAMS COMES TRUE.... http://w9.gazetevatan.com/haberdetay.asp?tarih=28.12.2007&Newsid=154142&Categoryid=10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 USA HAS TO COME CLEAN by HITTING TERORIST TARGET HIMSELF UNDER HIS CONTROL Conguralitions to USA ...Just made 20 million dollars...by giving double informaions to terorist and to Turks.USA expects more gun sales to both sides very easly...and Turks can built again the empty concrete buildings....nice going to USA..... USA has to come clean by hitting terorist himself which is under his control... not looking profits from both sides.... OTHERWISE USA STILL SUPPORT TERORISIM FOR THE BIG PROFITS IN THE WORLD ON GUN SALES..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 USA PLANS TO TRICK TURKS ONCE MORE.... FOR ITS DIRTY WORKS..... http://www.yenisafak.com.tr/dunya/?t=11.12.2007&c=4&i=86927 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 HISTORY ....USA(white man) vs native INDIANS (nothing to THANKS on thanksgivig about.......) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21936101/ USA(white man) makes jokes on THANKSGIVING DAY to NATIVE INDIANS (nothing to thank for them.....) HISTORY ....USA(white man) vs native INDIANS (nothing to THANKS on thanksgivig about.......) Turkish Republic owes to the WORLD passing AMERIKAN INDIANS GENOSIDE bill by the USA to the confisud world WHAT IS REAL GENOSIDE IS............TURKISH REPUBLIC MUST PASS AMERICAN INDIANS GENOSIDE (which is 100 persont pure genoside in the world)AGAINST USA AND TURKISH REPUBLIC MUST SHOW BY THIS ACTION TO THE WORLD (confiused world do not know what is genoside really) AS TODAY....THIS IS DUTY FROM THE TURKS TO THE MANKIND IN THE WORLD IN THIS ISSUE....AND EDUCATE THE HANDFULL MAFIA LIKE POLITICIANS IN THE WORLD.. AND SAVE MILLIONS OF THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD BEING HOSTAGE WHAT IS REALLY GENOSIDE.......ACT KNOW...WORLD IS WAITING YOU AS TURKISH REPUBLIC....(BELOW FIND THE AMERICAN INDIANS PURE GENOSIDE ARTICLE WHICH USA GOVERMENT FOUNDED . TOP OF IT FROM SCRATCH)++++++!+++++++(from press 15/10/07 ISTE ABD NIN KENDI GENOSIDE=KATLIAM SICILI...USTELIK HOLIVUD KOVBOY FILIMLERI ILE MILYARLARCA DOLAR KAZANIP....BIZLER DAHIL HERKES EGLENCE GORUNUMDE DOGAL BIR SEY GIBI SEYRETTI......GENERAL CUSTER=KASTIR BILE DEAD INDIAN GOOD INDIAN DEDI İşte Amerika'nın soykırım sicili Sözde Ermeni soykırım karar tasarısını Temsilciler Meclisi Dış İlişkiler Komitesi'nde kabul ederek "Tarih hassasiyetini” ortaya koyan ABD yönetimi, kendi tarihindeki kanıtlanmış katliamlara gözlerini kapatıyor Tarihi olaylar hakkında 'oylamalarla' hükme varılamayacağı, bu alandaki araştırmaların, konunun uzmanı tarihçilere bırakılması gerektiği yönündeki çağrıları dikkate almayan ve sözde Ermeni soykırım karar tasarısını kabul ederek 'tarihi hassasiyetini' gösteren ABD Kongresi, kendi tarihindeki kanıtlanmış soykırım ve katliamlara karşı aynı duyarlılığı göstermiyor. Tarihi kızılderili katliamı, zenci köleliği ile lekelenmiş olan, Klu Klux Klan gibi insanlığın ırkçı örgütlere yataklık eden, modern tarihinde ise Vietnam'dan Afganistan'a, Irak'a kadar sayısız savaş ve çatışmaya neden olan ABD, tarihindeki bu lekelerle yüzleşmek yerine, başka ülkeleri insan hakları ihlaller ya da soykırımla suçlamayı tercih ediyor. 19. ASIRDAN FELLUCE'YE ABD vatandaşı iki Yahudi gencin sahibi olduğu internet arama motoru 'Google'da yüzeysel bir arama yapıldığında bile ABD'nin sicilinin temiz olmadığı ortaya çıkıyor. İşte ABD'nin işgal ve soykırım sicili: 1898: Meksika'yı işgal etti, aynı yıl Küba'ya girdi.. 1921: Nikaragua'yi isgal etti, Sandino ve 300 kişiyi katletti. 1945: Hiroşima ve Nagazaki kentlerine atom bombası attı, 250.000 kişiyi katletti. 1950-53: Yüz binlerce Koreli'yi katletti. 1954: Binlerce Guatemalalı'yı katletti. 1955: Endonezya, Laos, Kambocya'da çok sayıda CIA operasyonu düzenlendi. 1950-59: Küba'da 60.000 kişi ABD destekli Batista birliklerince katledildi. 1975: Vietnam'dan kovuldugunda ardında 170.000 ölü, 80.000 sakat, onbinlerce tecavüz olayı bıraktı. 1970-75'te Kamboçya ve Laos'ta 1.000.000 kişiyi katletti. 1983: Lübnan'da 14.000 deniz piyadesi binlerce kişiyi katletti ve aynı yıl Grenada'da yüzlerce kişiyi katletti. 1989: Panama'ya asker çıkarttı, 5.000 Panamalı'nın ölümüne sebep oldu. 1991: Irak'a saldırdı ve100.000'nin üzerinde Iraklı'nın öldü. 2003: Irak'ı işgal etti. Ve akan kan hâlâ durdurulamıyor. 80 milyon Kızılderiliden geriye 10 milyon kaldı Amerika'nın yerlileri olan Kızılderililer, sömürgeciler kıtaya varmadan önce o topraklarda yaşamaktaydılar. “Beyaz adamlar” Yeni Dünya'ya vardıklarında dünyada toplam 400 milyon insan yaşıyordu. Bu insanların beşte biri ise bu kıtadaydı. Bugün Amerika'da çok az sayıda yerli yaşıyor. Yani 80 milyon Kızılderili'den 70 milyonu öldürülmek ve köle olarak satılmak suretiyle Amerika'dan silindi. Avrupalılar Amerikalı Kızılderilileri köle olarak satmak için gemilerle Avrupa'ya taşırlarken bir yandan da Afrikalıları aynı amaçla Amerika'ya taşıyorlardı. ++++++++ Gonderen:CAKIR Tarih : 08/12/07 ---------------------------------------------------CHINA TEACHES THE USA HUMAN RIGHTS (BUT TURKISH GOVERMENT DOESNT DEFEND ITSELF ON USA CHARGES) From press http://yenisafak.com.tr/dunya/?t=14.03.2008&c=4&i=105441----------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 Amerikan indian tribe (SITTING BULL) going to celebrate KURBAN BAYRAMI in their style.... http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/dunya/7898675.asp?gid=180&sz=63241 THIS IS WONDERFUL NEWS.....KIZILDERELILER TURK KOKENLIMI.....ISTE CEVABI......http://w9.gazetevatan.com/haberdetay.asp?tarih=28.01.2008&Newsid=158993&Categoryid=7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 Sog protests Bush in Turkish(copy and paste the adress completly and on tags click over BUSH) http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=baris+akarsu-bush&search=Search -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 Singer PINK protests BUSH with video Watch(dear mr.president) http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=PINK&search=Search sanatçı Pink'in şarkısının sözleri şöyle: SEVGİLİ BAŞKAN Biz geri kalanlar ağlarken nasıl uyuyabiliyorsun? Bir anne çocuğuna veda etme şansına sahip değilken nasıl rüya görebiliyorsun? Nasıl başın dik yürüyebiliyorsun? Gözlerimin içine bakıp nedenini söyleyebilir misin? Sevgili Başkan, yalnız bir çocuk muydun? Yalnız bir çocuk musun? Hiçbir çocuğun geride bırakılmadığını nasıl söyleyebiliyorsun? Aptal değiliz ve kör değiliz. Sen cehenneme giden yolu döşerken, onlar senin hücrelerindeler. Nasıl bir baba öz kızının haklarını elinden alır? Ve nasıl bir baba, kızının eşcinsel olma ihtimalinde ondan nefret edebilir? Viski ve kokainden buraya yine iyi yol katettin! First Lady'nin ne diyebileceğini tahmin edebiliyorum. Ben sana sıkı işin ne olduğunu anlatayım. Bebek beklerken asgari maaş kazanmaktır. Evin bombayla yıkıldıktan sonra inşa etmektir. 14.01.2008 WHO IS TURK OR TURKIHS......... Good hearted Ardent brought up the subject which is alltime sleeping carbon copy subject in human beeing where good versus evil 24-7 Here how it works.....within the borders of Turkish Repeblic all the citizens called Turk,Turkish citizen.If i ask you your etnic background you may say yours....because everybody has different ethnic back ground....it may reached to hundred kimds.Everybody open their eyes there is no only Kurdish or Armenian bakgrounds in Turkey.These two idiots flahsing therself to other many ethnic backgrouns in turkey just like the bird OSTERICH hide his little head in the sand but big body and the ass complete expose outside but this bird still thinks itself hided...this is sad to others be like that as all called Turkish citizen .Anybody dont like to be Turkish citizen you may go out of turkey.If you dont and act like still Kurd and armenian you have to kill other ethnic background people reaching in numbers hundred.But kurd and armenian flashing on their face also evil twist suddenly calling them Turk.In deed in this style to match kurd armenian also turk because they are citizen of turkey just like others in turkey See how the devil in them try to switch gear in front of my eyes.entering different catogery.no commen sence,no logic,no sience to proof this cris s cross the devil in kurds and armens.psicolacigly they need lots of sessions to get the point flashing their ethnic backgrounds on to others in large numbers . They are in default coming out like that Because i did not asked their backgrounds they flashed on my face .Because i am another one of the ethnic they call me turkish. to me they are turkish too while they are citizen of turkey. (Through out history they have been used by the enemies of TURKEY.Becasuse they live like closed circut tv only..easy target like bird .After all said and done they been punished by the goverment whicever they live in and what land of the laws they broke..and they start cries..and these all time repeats....)I will be so honest not to tell my ethnic background because no body asked me i am accused to be turkish directly by these two...Okey these two sick ethnic flashers beeing used and abused by the Enemies of turkey to come out like that to make a evil case ...Why they are so dam heads to countinie to be slave to devil like that to be used ,abused and molested always.Change citizenship and pile top on top on the land if you can find only kurds or only armenians because look like any body else kind is not kurd or armenian and label them oppositly by continuuing devil game....you dont need to get shot by other etnics and die stupidly also call them turk if you come forward as kurd armen ethnic backgroud to others ethnics(you have nerve to call them just turks)indeed you should ask same way indivucually what it your ethnic background rather than acting like the famuous bird OSTERICH.It is turning me off seen just the big ass which they are not awere of doing that also the devil blinding the eyes so dirty work continues. now hope whoever reading this with the brain and connected to the heart (eacother) and no loose wire will spot the devil twist how working in humans just for desturuction and being the tool for devil only. if everybody focus this things deeply we are just BROKE THE CODES OF THE DEVIL...very simply and shows up simply such a style in different cases amongs us. We should be extremly causus how good versus devil senorio.I do deeply thanks to Metin and Ardent Gave me opportunities to exprees i mean try to express this spirutually victimized kurd and armen subject.Notice this unsetteled spirutual in induvucuals and issues cannot be express even with exceellent english.only person or persons performing shows the BEAUTY or THE BEAST .As a summery I still wont tell my ethnic background to kurd or armen because they never asks me... but i will prudly tell them i am Turk.They tell me that already under the devil order...Hope you figured out the evil twist... ALSO,BEING TURK OR TURKISH IS A PRIVALAGE GIVEN BY THE TURKISH REPUBLIC. to you and need to earned to get it .Just look like DRIVERS LICENCE is a privilage to given to you to drive.If you misused you may kill yourself or kill sdomebody. you will be penalized by the goverment or it will be revoked your licence...... Sorry forgot to add these links to help everybody understand what is really what just like having physcho therapy ...hope it will be helpful to everbody ...Educational video to the world(What & who is TURK or TURKISH Within the borders of TURKISH REPUBLIC ....and only you may say your ethnic background if you are asked ...) http://www.hepimizsehidiz.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 EDUCATIONAL...to the world...What and Who is is Turk within the borders of the Turkish Republic ...and only you may say your ethnic background IF you are asked http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2007/12/18/son/sontur49.asp?prm=0,1709515 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 Educational SUBJECT to the world(What & who is TURK or TURKISH Within the borders of TURKISH REPUBLIC ....and only you may say your ethnic background if you are asked ...) http://www.yenisafak.com.tr/gundem/?t=08.12.2007&c=1&i=86398 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 EDUCATIONAL...to the world...What and Who is is Turk within the borders of the Turkish Republic ...and only you may say your ethnic background IF YOU ARE ASKED http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2007/12/22/son/sontur24.asp?prm=14201548 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 Educational video to the world(What & who is TURK or TURKISH Within the borders of TURKISH REPUBLIC ....and only you may say your ethnic background if you are asked ...) http://www.hepimizsehidiz.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 EDUCATIONAL...to the world...What and Who is is Turk within the borders of the Turkish Republic ...and only you may say your ethnic background IF you are asked http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2007/12/18/son/sontur49.asp?prm=0,1709515 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 Educational SUBJECT to the world(What & who is TURK or TURKISH Within the borders of TURKISH REPUBLIC ....and only you may say your ethnic background if you are asked ...) http://www.yenisafak.com.tr/gundem/?t=08.12.2007&c=1&i=86398 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 EDUCATIONAL...to the world...What and Who is is Turk within the borders of the Turkish Republic ...and only you may say your ethnic background IF YOU ARE ASKED http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2007/12/22/son/sontur24.asp?prm=14201548 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 THE TRUE STORY...MUST BE MADE MOVIE...... * http://www.yenisafak.com.tr/aktuel/?t=02.12.2007&c=5&i=85200 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gonderen:, Tarih : 22/12/07 Midnight Exspress Truth Revealed ...Watch 2 part videos (copy and paste to your adress bar the whole thing) http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=midnight+express&search=Search -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- ENJOY THE BEST MUSIC OF THE OTTOMAN MILITARY BAND (lots of virayety of song sending their loves throug-out to the world.....) http://www.4shared.com/file/13290767/21117fac/Mehter_-_Ceddin_Deden.html?err=no-sess
____________________