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Open Page in IE inside opera window with Neptune Plugin

Tuesday, 3. October 2006, 20:58:40

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Many websites are design to work with IE only and users need to use IE for those. Firefox has a IE tab. Now using Neptune PLug-in you can open a IE tab inside opera too. Its easy and works great. See detail instructions below.

It is very easy to open page in IE inside opera using neptune Plug-in.

Step-1: Download neptune Plug-in and install.
Update: Neptune plug-in is updated with their new installer. Now it works smooth s opera detects the plug-in files from its own location.
If you go to tools>advanced>plug-ins, You are likely to see the following:
MeadCo's Neptuneapplication/x-meadco-neptune-axax
C:\PROGRA~1\MEADCO~1\npmeadax.dll

Step-2: You need modified menu/shortcut/button to use the feature open in IE. Just do either or both of the following options:

a)Custom Button(Easiest option): It is very easy . Just go to operawiki site and choose your button (thanks to ale5000 for creating view in IE button). There are different options like "view in IE" in the same tab(recommended), "view in IE" (opens in new tab) and open in IE(separate IE window). Just clcik on the button. It it wll ask for adding this custom button. Just add it and drag it anywhere in the toolbars you like. To open page in ie, click tha button in your toolbar, it should open the page in ie in the same tab.Sometimes you need to click again on the button to make it work.

Alternately, you can simply use my custom toolbar which already includes the button. Firefox switchers can also get firefox like toolbar with this button included. Right click in the link above and save target as to "Toolbar" folder under your profile directory. Go to Tools>Preferences>advanced>toolbar>select the toolbar setup.


b) Menu item (Advanced option):
First Download this zip file(thanks to tatepa) to desktop(or anywhere) and then right click on the zip file>extract to " c:\Program Files\Opera". This will create a folder named Open-In-IE. Then Download this menu setup (right click in the link and save target as) to "Menu" folder under your profile directory (usually in win xp c:documents&setting\username\application data\opera\menu and in vista in Win Vista C:\Users\yourname\AppData\Roaming\Opera\menu). You can always find your exactly profile directory from help>about opera. Then open opera, go to Tools>preferences>advanced>toolbar> select the menu file>ok.

Now. open the page you want to view in IE. Right click>Open in IE. The page will now open in IE.Only thing is that the new page will appear blank and will display "click to activate and use this control". Just click on the page and content will show up. but you can avoid this also by using "noclicktoactivate " user JS.

Another optional userjs you can download which sometimes helps playing activex content smoothly in some webpages.

Hope it helps. Might look too many steps but it is easy if you follow instructions. Once setup, its nice.

If you like to open certain sites always in IE:

Fred Erik, is one of the great opera users in this forum and he has kindly visited my blog to provide this wonderful user script that allows you to open certain sites in IE always.(for example windows update site). Just see the comment section below this post.

Installing user scripts: See instructions on "How to install user scripts".

Finally, if you install IE7Pro, then you can have some added features in IE.

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Comments

fred_erik 18. January 2007, 15:18

c) First, make sure you have User Javascript activated (Tools -> Prefences -> Advanced -> Content -> Javascript Options -> choose a UserJS folder)
Add this UserJS to your UserJS folder. To make a site automatically open using Neptune, just add the adress to the UserJS, just like the ones already in there. www.windowsupdate.com is one of the sites I already added as an example.

fred_erik 3. March 2007, 19:10

By the way: I also created a sort of tutorial for this. Over here.

Call Me Yo Daddy 10. March 2007, 10:40

After following the instructions above it wasn't working at first until I did one strange thing. I don't know why this worked but it did. After insuring that both IE and Opera had the appropriate plugins I simply dragged and dropped the IE icon over the Opera icon on my desktop. That caused a Window to pop up asking if I wanted to open or save the file. I chose to open it. That brought up IE. Once it was up I just closed it out and then opened Opera back up and clicked on the "View In IE" icon in Opera and my home page which is the Opera community page showed perfectly in Opera. I even downloaded an update from Microsoft in in Opera. :lol:

I hope this helps others. This is just awesome. This really makes Opera complete for me. Some sites I visit will not except Opera and even if I mask it as IE or Firefox it still will not work. Now I don't have to bring up old and ugly IE for certain sites. I can just use it's engine only. :yes:

By the way thank you so much for making these instructions available to everyone. Jon T. the CEO of Opera himself needs to call you and personally thank you. p:

X.Homer.X 14. July 2007, 17:51

I got this to work, but i would like to know, how do you switch back? I can get it to open with ie, but when im done, i cant switch back. :frown:

operafan2006 14. July 2007, 18:12

Glad that it worked for you.
To open the page in opera again, simply refresh the page or hit back/forward button.

opera_guy 25. August 2007, 00:22

This stopped working with the introduction of Opera 9.2. Arghh!

operafan2006 25. August 2007, 05:23

No, neptune still works great. If anyone has any problem, please report to forum for discussion.

JordyV 6. October 2007, 16:20

It did work for me in the end, but with the buttons >>"view in IE" in the same tab<< Opera totally crashes when rightclicking in the IE tab.
With the >>"view in IE" (opens in new tab)<< Opera hangs when I click on a menu item after rightclicking. So it's a nice feature, but if Opera crashes in the worst way I've ever seen, I have to stick to >>open in IE(separate IE window)<<

JordyV 6. October 2007, 16:35

Ow, and when using the >>"view in IE" (opens in new tab)<< I always get a bunch of SCRIPT ERRORS FOR IE. Something with an unregistered DLL-file, but it doesn't specify which one. This may be an IE setting, but I can't find which one. All errorreports are turned off.

operafan2006 6. October 2007, 18:50

JordyV,
Which version of opera you are using ? I see neptune working fine with opera 9.23 for me. Fred erik's blog reported few issues though(http://my.opera.com/fred_erik/blog/2007/06/05/opera-9-2-and-up-is-incompatible-with-neptune-plugin). Have you checked individual plug-in files ? Also if opera seems like freezing, try minimizing it(by clicking on the opera window icon in windows task bar) and maximize it again. That might help.

JordyV 6. October 2007, 20:40

Ah, I was still using 9.22 as 9.23 wasn't a necesarry update for me. I updated to 9.23 and it works properly now. Thanks for the quick reply.

But do you maybe know how to get rid of these javascript errormessages?
They keep popping up many times when loading in an IE frame.

fred_erik 8. October 2007, 15:58

Nederlandsche Opera versie! Vriend! P:

You can use step two from my package for this, but it's more like a workaround, as it closes the error messages immediately.

However, there is no real solution, as it is a bug (or the lack of a feature) of the Neptune plugin, which we cannot edit. You should ask MeadCo, it's developer for that, but they have stopped developing the plugin a long time ago, so it's highly unlikely they'll do it.

JordyV 9. October 2007, 10:20

@ fred_erik:
Nee, alleen Nederlandsche Windows. Kon bij installatie helaas niet voor Engels kiezen :frown: Voor de rest gebruik ik alleen Engelstalige programma's. Nederlandsch zuigt :smile:

Thanks for the link. I installed STEP 2 and the errormessages disappear automatically. Now this plug-in is very useful!

operafan2006 10. October 2007, 02:17

Great work again by Erik.thanks.

widestrides 17. October 2007, 12:20

It renders a blank page which comes up if I reload. But while it may be rendering in IE, it doesn't function. I have a site that I cannot login to in Opera and I still can't login to it with this Open in IE fix. Sigh! Running Opera 9.23

FoxM 20. January 2008, 20:50

Does this work for Linux systems?

operafan2006 20. January 2008, 22:08

Not sure. Looks like neptune plug-in page mentioned windows.
http://www.meadroid.com/neptune/about.htm

FoxM 21. January 2008, 01:36

yes... :frown: that's why I ask P:

I will have to try it... hope not to mess all things up P: (high risk when talking about Microsoft products)

Red.Nose 13. February 2008, 09:34

Hi Operafan2006
Saw this link. Have not tried it, yet.
What links look "funny" in Opera, and better in IE?
(Some excamples)
I am just curious, because I have not seen such pages, yet.

Greetings
Red.Nose


ZAHEK 24. February 2008, 22:48

thanks so much.it's very useful.

sus4ntoh 21. March 2008, 04:57

Hello all,

I hope you guys can help me with this issue I am having for the last 45 minutes. I have installed neptune plugin and it looks it is working (I tried using option 1 by using the custom button). If I want a page to load in IE, i load in opera and click on the custom button and it gives me the page in IE. Great... the problem i am having is I want to use the script that Fred Erik created so it will auto load in IE but I can't get it to work. In order to use the script do I have to use option 2 which is the menu item?

operafan2006 22. March 2008, 02:10

no, you don't need menu item for the script to work.

gpc 30. March 2008, 15:19

NEPTUNE refused to install on my Win2000 machine. It simply sais: Unexpected error. Resource not found.

This possibly is a lack of resources/dll's normally found in XP but not installed in WIN2k.

After some work, I got it working in my environmet, Opera9.25.

0. Stop OPERA.
1. Don't exit neptune's installer when receiving the upper error.
2. Localize neptune's temp folder - usually "\Dokumente und Einstellungen\<user>\Lokale Einstellungen\Temp\IXP000.TMP" on _german_ win2000.
3. Put files npmeadax.dll, Neptune.inf into "\Programme\Opera\program\plugins"
4. Open a DOS box in "\Programme\Opera\program\plugins". Enter the command "regsvr32.exe npmeadax.dll". You'll get a confirmation the dll has registered.
5. Add the toolbar icon as described.

Now you can run NEPTUNE without errors.

operafan2006 31. March 2008, 15:16

thanks for the info. I don't have a win2000 machine to check the error.Anyway, it might help other users.

a4gen2 25. April 2008, 23:16

Opera still hangs for me on certain (many) sites. Windows update and others, for example. Followed instructions above re: copying plug-in files manually. No luck. Would really like to get this working, if possible.

Yndi 12. June 2008, 21:43

The Button works fine for me, the user Java-Skript from fred_erik and you don´t work for me.
www.aol.de only works with the button for me.

mrmr1993 15. June 2008, 16:39

A messy, quickly scripted version of fred_eric's script set to run on any page with an object tag or a script tag calling ActiveXObject

http://files.myopera.com/mrmr1993/UserJs/IERender.js

Yndi 17. June 2008, 21:36

Thank you for your work, but AOL webmail still tries to open in Opera, so it´s not working for that(tried to mask/identify as IE/FF, but no sucess)

epyupc 19. June 2008, 02:18

I have the same problem a s an above user... after loading the plugin, and calso manually copying the files to the opera plugin folder..

1.I click on "view in IE"
2. Another page pops up and the status bar gives info like "Website found waiting for reply" and so on until "DONE"

3. The page is totally blank
4. I have to press F5 and Esc in quick succession, and then the page shows in IE. After this, I can easily use the page in IE..

Why do I have to quickly refresh and stop the refreshing to show the page?
If I delay pressing the Escape button , it loads the page in Opera, not IE

operafan2006 19. June 2008, 13:43

use view in ie (same tab) button. also, if it takes more than 2 seconds to open, press the button again.
Please note that the opening of page in ie is entirely dependent upon neptune plug-in and I think they haven't updated it for long time. Some anomalies is possible.
pm to fred erik about the always open in ie script.

fred_erik 21. June 2008, 08:59

Operafan2006 and others: the link on my site to the IERendering.exe file doesn't work anymore, I've put it on drop.io here, if anyone ever needs anything from it, so you don't have to bother me. :wink:

Sope 24. June 2008, 18:44

epyupc - seems like I have the same bug as you. Have you come up with an answer yet? I originally set up the Neptune plugin with Opera 9.27 and it was working correctly but it broke after upgrading to Opera 9.50 :irked:

Yndi 26. June 2008, 07:13

Well, I´m again using basic version. Works and it´s possible to block content.

mrmr1993 3. July 2008, 21:33

Okay, well, if anybody's still interested, I've reprogrammed the script i created last month. It's not necessarily better, but it's different, so, if you're interested, feel free to have a look. http://files.myopera.com/mrmr1993/UserJs/1IERender.js

jmead 7. July 2008, 18:54

Hi

This downloadable resource of yours:

http://files.myopera.com/operafan2006/blog/neptune-unzip%20it.zip

is in contravention of the terms under which we offer Neptune for free download.

++++++++++++++++++++

Important License Information

MeadCo's Neptune executable is not redistributable. You may install it on a single Windows PC by downloading it from this page free of charge.

As a publisher you may not host it on your own Internet/intranet servers nor pre-install it across your intranet without first acquiring a web/intranet publishing license and the Neptune SDK + support package here.

However, we grant you the right to link only to this download page [http://www.meadroid.com/neptune/download/] from any external web resource to allow your visitors and end users to download and install the plug-in free of charge.

++++++++++++++++++++

You don't have our permission to redistribute our binaries. Please take the link down.

Thanks

Jerry

MeadCo

operafan2006 7. July 2008, 19:49

Hi Jerry, I removed that link. If anything else bothers you in this post, please let me know. I will remove that immediately.

But please note that you need to update your installer so that users can get a smooth install and opera detects the plug-ins. If you had that fixed, there was no need for this post even.

jmead 8. July 2008, 07:22

Hi

Many thanks for your prompt reaction. I probably missed the zips dealing with copying around around our individual fies, too, btw. They should be included.

>> you need to update your installer <<

Quite right. Please try the current installer:

http://www.meadroid.com/neptune/download/index.htm

A few months ago the Neptune binaries were slightly updated to deal with a couple of weirdies of our own (we DO test on all alpha and beta builds of Opera & report bugs as appropriate, btw) and in particular the install system has been changed to remove the need to manually find and copy files about the place.

So you might want to remove anything Neptune-ish from Start | Programs | MeadCo along with any exisiting copies of npmeadax.dll, then grab the new installer and give it go.

It should now deliver the smooth experience you're after (the first change since the days of pre-Gecko Netscape, btw!)

Jerry

operafan2006 8. July 2008, 21:05

Hi Jerry,
The new installer looks good to me as I just tried it. Opera automatically detected the plug-ins from the neptune installation directory. Nice.
The one suggestion I have is that although there are custom buttons available in this forum to execute that plug-in, there is no official interface to make that plug-in work in opera. Thats why users created such help pages. I would suggest that you guys create a button for opera(just the same as we have in this forum) to open IE using neptune. This way it will be easier for users to collect everything they need from your website to make your product work in opera.
Thanks for this nice work anyway.
operafan2006

jmead 9. July 2008, 13:20

>> I would suggest that you guys create a button for opera <<

Great thought, thanks. I'll put that up to our (over-worked and highly volatile) devs, and hope not to get beaten up again!

Thanks again for your prompt co-operation over this issue, btw. As you say, with the new installer we can get the updated code installed and running much more satisfactorily.

Jerry

Centromedia_Com 19. October 2008, 05:09

wow ! MeadCo's Neptune plug-in is perfect, but the autocomplete feature does not work and nor the wand does work. That is a important feature that is missing. If the autocomplete feature would run then I would install the plug in immediately over all our pc's in the company.

Giulio

operafan2006 20. October 2008, 14:02

Centromedia_Com, please understand that the plug-in just opens IE inside opera. Now its all IE function. Since there is not wand in IE, it will not work. Due to security reason, opera will not support FF like IE tab or active-x kind of thing like IE.

epyupc 20. October 2008, 16:04

The plugin works, but I have the same problem that I mentioned above.

I click on "View in IE"

The page becomes blank and the status bar reads:

"Website found waiting for reply"
then" 24 items left" etc
and
DONE.

But the page is blank!
If I reload, and quickly stop, the page is visible in IE.
But only if I do this...!

I tried changing the options for redraw instantly to redraw after a few secs etc.
Didn't work.

operafan2006 20. October 2008, 17:04

As I mentioned "Sometimes you need to click again on the button to make it work.". So click once and click again ont he button. the page will appear immediately.

epyupc 21. October 2008, 08:52

Thanks opera fan!

that worked.

But can the button be changed somehow to make it work with one click?

mabdul 1. November 2008, 15:57

is there any option that I/we can use the gecko engine inside opera with a similar way?

operafan2006 1. November 2008, 21:08

I don't know.you may put in the forum for others to step in.

Sope 19. December 2008, 17:05

Today I've had another go at setting up this Neptune plugin with no success. The installer still does not copy the plugin to the relevant browsers plugin folders and if I copy it there manually I still get the blank page problems - dissapointing :frown:

On further inspection it appears the MD5 of the file I downloaded today is exactly the same as the file I downloaded and tried out in June so no further development then, despite the website now claiming integration with Google Chrome too!

Maybe I'm missing something or it's to do with my setup but IMHO I think this plugin needs more work in order for it to live up to it's promises.

Lex1 26. January 2009, 23:42

I still get the blank page problems


Button on http://operawiki.info/CustomButtons#webdev updated and works in Opera 9.6 and 10 (for me, at least).

Sope 27. January 2009, 16:27

QUOTE:
"Button on http://operawiki.info/CustomButtons#webdev updated and works in Opera 9.6 and 10 (for me, at least)."

Lex1 - thanks for the heads-up.

The new updated button on that page works a treat. I finally have the Neptune plugin working again - cheers!

operafan2006 31. January 2009, 22:47

Thanks for the update. great. I was just clicking twice as work around.

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