Opera Mobile

Opera Mobile 10 beta for S60 phones

By Igor Netto. Tuesday, 3. November 2009, 09:39:22

Today is an exciting day for Symbian smartphone users. After a long wait, the Opera Mobile browser is available for Symbian S60.

When you launch Opera Mobile you will immediately recognize the most characteristic and useful features of the Opera desktop browser: Speed Dial, tabs, integrated search engine and much more. You will also notice the new and elegant user interface, the same already introduced for Opera Mini 5 beta. These familiar features coupled with the new, fluid user interface will make your mobile Internet experience easier and more enjoyable.

The new UI is only the beginning. Under the hood, you will find the newest Opera browser engine, which will boost speed and compatibility with Web sites and services: the power of a desktop browser on your mobile!

If that were not enough, we add Opera Turbo to the mix to improve your experience on slow networks and reduce the quantity of data downloaded from your phone.

You can have a quick view of Opera Mobile 10 beta on YouTube and, if you have a Symbian S60 smartphone from Nokia, Sony Ericsson or Samsung, you can download it directly on your phone from m.opera.com/mobile.

We are looking forward to your downloading the new Opera Mobile browser and receiving your comments!

Known limitations:
- Asian language phones are not supported.
- Soft keyboard is shown even though hard keyboard is slid out and in use.
- Only partial IME support.
- Occasional freezes under stress conditions.
- Opera Link is not included in the beta.

Opera Mobile 9.7 beta available for downloadOpera Mobile 10 beta for S60 phones - multi-language and updated version available

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thobi # 3. November 2009, 09:41

finally, cool

Tamil # 3. November 2009, 09:42

serk69 # 3. November 2009, 09:49

cool

persianweblog # 3. November 2009, 09:54

Kuja-IX # 3. November 2009, 10:10

Still no non-touchscreen Windows Mobile version

ouzoWTF # 3. November 2009, 11:06

vbaros # 3. November 2009, 11:14

All I can say is thousand Thank you! This is making a web experience so much better on my 5800.
Thank you for the full JavaScript support, AJAX and user experience never seen before.

paxmir # 3. November 2009, 11:18

Thanks, although it appears that the Yes/No (Exit/Menu) buttons (or their labels) are swapped on the internal display of my Nokia E90 Communicator... External screen shows them correctly.

KYren # 3. November 2009, 11:36

Posting from e71 using Opera Mobile. Everything's fine as for now.

I think the image quality in turbo view should be at least medium. No flash support yet, no sync, and the scrolling speed using the scroll key isn't as swift as on the OM. Btw, I am loving everything else.

piroxicam # 3. November 2009, 11:49

Thank you very much. It's indeed a much more sleek design and much more faster and rich surf experience. I'm really enjoying it.

adiq90 # 3. November 2009, 12:25

Great browser! Great, great, great!

rafaelluik # 3. November 2009, 13:06

If we were able to "download" torrents it would be awesome.
It would be something never seen before in a mobile browser.

ariesptn # 3. November 2009, 13:08

thank you very much

cant wait to try it.

FataL # 3. November 2009, 15:20

UiQ?
Or removed SE p1i from the header says everything?

kxp # 3. November 2009, 18:22

the buttons are in the opposite place when using E90 on inner screen.

This means for an example if i clicked the lower hotkey to press accept to the end-user-license i actually clicked exit.

OK a second bug... when writing numbers i get letters on the inner keyboard. That's annoying..

And a feature request - custom searches

Update: www.forumcinemas.ee renders... well it doesn't render almost at all.

myregs # 3. November 2009, 19:18

works not really good on nokia s60v5 devices.

mini 5 vs mobile 10 comparison

program load -> page loading (profile page on vkontakte.ru, which among most visited sites by opera users) -> zoom -> scrolling till the end of the page -> checking amount of used ram -> closure

nokia 5530 v11.0.54. origianl java machine.

page loading
opera mini 5: 25 sec
opera mobile 10 with turbo: 55 sec

ram usage
before program opening -> after page scrolling
opera mini 5: 47 mb -> 37,5 mb (9,5mb)
opera mobile 10: 47 mb -> 24,1 mb (22,9mb)

with such an amount of used ram (over 30mb with few medium sized opened pages) you can't use anything else, but opera only. with opera 5 you can at least listen music with music player and have IM program running on the background.

quite poor port. looking hopefully forward of optimisations.

myregs # 3. November 2009, 20:33

checked opera:config

that's might be not a port. still ram usage is too big, very very hope for optimizations in beta 2.

looks like there is fingertouch (may be that was "nearby elements" in links settings), but not completed yet. freeze and popup appearing on the top of the screen. looking forward of this feature. can't also get fonts to work. it's always using s60 serif, but i have all main windows fonts installed on the phone, so site can teorically pick them up - like verdana, arial, times etc

Khaled-Khalil # 4. November 2009, 02:59

please, correct the link, you forgot "http://" in "www.opera.com/mobile/next", that make it link to "http://my.opera.com/operamobile/blog/www.opera.com/mobile/next" (from the current directory).

Khaled-Khalil # 4. November 2009, 03:00

oh, i forget to say

congrats

War10ck # 4. November 2009, 03:10

Who cares about S60? Where is the windows mobile version?

myregs # 4. November 2009, 04:21

lot of people care
http://www.mforum.ru/analit/pubs/090266.htm

s60 makes over 70% of market sales

KYren # 4. November 2009, 04:34

Unlike the other brands, nokia's latest handsets are available even in the farthest corners of India.

kumarlomash # 4. November 2009, 06:27

Must say that I am so thankful, I just bought Omnia HD and what could have been a better time for you guys to launch the all-new-touch-supported web browser.

Few concerns/queries though:
- Is flash going to be supported going forward in version 10.0? And will I be able to watch youtube and other in-browser video?
- The keyboard provided by in the browser is a bit sluggish, the "Done" button in particular was consistently non-responsive at times.

Overall, I must say great job! And yes, I am using it as my default browser - keep up the good work.

tomassplatch # 4. November 2009, 10:44

Great stuff, works like a charm. Thank you.

Purdi # 4. November 2009, 10:57

Originally posted by myregs:

works not really good on nokia s60v5 devices.

Maybe it's too slow and sucky?

ram usage
before program opening -> after page scrolling
opera mini 5: 47 mb -> 37,5 mb (9,5mb)

You left out the Java environment which needs to be loaded as well.

with such an amount of used ram (over 30mb with few medium sized opened pages) you can't use anything else, but opera only.

That's insane. If your phone has THAT LITTLE MEMORY, you should NOT be opening multiple pages! Jesus Christ, do you think this is magic or something?

If your phone is low on memory, you will have to keep the number of open pages low. That goes without saying.

with opera 5 you can at least listen music with music player and have IM program running on the background.

That's because Opera Mini opens stripped down pages, while Opera Mobile is a full browser. Of course the latter will require more power.

quite poor port.

No, it's your understanding that's poor. You think your crappy low-mem phone can open an unlimited amount of pages at once. That's just insane!

Purdi # 4. November 2009, 10:57

Originally posted by kumarlomash:

Is flash going to be supported going forward in version 10.0?

Flash isn't supported in ANY browser. Flash is only available a plugin. The browser needs to support plugins.

myregs # 4. November 2009, 12:49

Purdi
that amount of ram includes everything what needed for opera mini. as said - it's amount of free ram before running midlet and before midlet closure.

no, opera mini is a full browser as well. the only small difference it's got full compresstion, while opera 10 has got only image compression. it's also got more functional render engine, but it's not worth it such a ram usage. there is no any visible difference on vkontakte profile page between opera mini 5 and mobile 10. s60 browser 5 have ram usage close to opera mini, if not even less than opera mini. it will eat ram only with lots of large images, because have no compresstion. but opera 10 eats twice more than opera mini 5 ram even with no any loaded pages, and even more than twice than s60 browser 5. that is not a port, as it have new render engine, bu poor memory management is obvious.

90% of all S60 device and at least 40% of all smartphones have 128mb ram or less.

myregs # 4. November 2009, 13:07

same vkontakte page

opera mini 5: 47 mb -> 37,5 mb (9,5mb)
opera mobile 10: 47 mb -> 24,1 mb (22,9mb)
nokia s60 browser 5 (also full browser, built on webkit): 31,3 mb -> 20,2 mb (11,1mb)

jckhng # 4. November 2009, 13:49

Ok, I know I sound like a spoilt brat. But any chance of a version with fixed font for poor owners of Asian Language phones like me? I hope it is soon!

ZAHEK # 4. November 2009, 14:44

snoopy11hk # 4. November 2009, 15:50

WM is no more the target for opera mobile team, right?
perhaps it is time to switch to android

masonic # 4. November 2009, 18:02

Wow!....I'm loving this browser. I can imagine how the beta 2 version will be :-)

Purdi # 4. November 2009, 18:33

Originally posted by myregs:

no, opera mini is a full browser as well. the only small difference it's got full compresstion, while opera 10 has got only image compression.

Wrong. In Opera Mini the page is handled by Opera's servers before it is sent to the Opera Mini client in a special format.

In Opera Mobile with Opera Turbo, text and images are compressed, but the browser on the phone still handles everything.

but opera 10 eats twice more than opera mini 5 ram even with no any loaded pages, and even more than twice than s60 browser 5.

Wrong. First of all the S60 browser sucks, and is hardly capable of anything. Second, Opera does NOT use twice as much memory as the sucky S60 browser.

90% of all S60 device and at least 40% of all smartphones have 128mb ram or less.

Sucks for them.

Purdi # 4. November 2009, 18:34

Originally posted by snoopy11hk:

WM is no more the target for opera mobile team, right?

WTF are you whining about? Opera has lots of different teams working on different things. They can actually work on a WM and S60 version at the same time!

perhaps it is time to switch to android

But according to your logic "Android is no more target"!

myregs # 4. November 2009, 19:01

s60 browser renders most of sites perfectly well, it's also perfectly works with ajax. it's got big bandwidth consuption, but nontheless it loads pages quickly enough. not as fast as mini of course, but still faster than mobile with turbo enabled.

yes it ieasts twice less ram than opera mobile 10.

as i noted above. one page loaded - vkontake.ru profile

opera mobile 10: 22,9mb
nokia s60 browser 5: 11,1mb

and s60 displays it perfectly, while opera mobile 10 has render issues on titles.

catt4u2002 # 4. November 2009, 19:28

First off all I would like to thank all of your guys at Opera to give us the Mobile 10 for Symbian.

I use it since yesterday on my Samsung Omnia i8910HD, running the HyperX 1.25 speedrom and it's AWESOME FAST.

Free memory on my phone (with Handy Shell+Handy Weather running in the background) 176MB.
With Mobile 10 running 156MB, so still plenty of MB's left

This is really THE BEST AND FASTEST BROWSER on the market today for (smart)phones.

I'm used to Opera on my pc and I hope you take the Mobile 10 out of Bèta soon and add the sync.function for the bookmarks.

Thanks to Mobile 10 the only drawback of browsing with a smartphone not running OS X is completely disappeared

catt4u2002 # 4. November 2009, 19:33

Originally posted by myregs:

while opera mobile 10 has render issues on titles

Sorry, but I totally disagree!
No problems redering txt/titles what so ever.
I think this is an RAM problem with your phone

bizty # 4. November 2009, 19:39

Is there any options for choosing network service in opera mobile 10 beta 1? Like the mini 5 beta has. Both runs in nokia 5320 xPressmusic

catt4u2002 # 4. November 2009, 19:41

Originally posted by kumarlomash:

The keyboard provided by in the browser is a bit sluggish, the "Done" button in particular was consistently non-responsive at times.

Tried a 'Hard reset' on your device before installing Mobile 10?
I always do a hard reset before and after flashing and to make a clean install of my apps.
Works wonders

Purdi # 4. November 2009, 21:17

Originally posted by myregs:

s60 browser renders most of sites perfectly well, it's also perfectly works with ajax. it's got big bandwidth consuption, but nontheless it loads pages quickly enough. not as fast as mini of course, but still faster than mobile with turbo enabled.

You are wrong. The S60 browser is extremely slow. With Turbo in Opera, there's no competition what so ever.

tomassplatch # 4. November 2009, 21:21

i have to agree with purdi there. on my e51, opera beats the built in browser hands down.

kenouz1234 # 4. November 2009, 22:38

How I can report the bugs of opera mobile 10 beta?

myregs # 5. November 2009, 00:39

Yes it is. It's slightly slower than s60 browser but a lot slower than mini.

Same with Opera 10 Desktop. With Turbo enabled it's even slower than without Turbo.

KYren # 5. November 2009, 01:57

Yes, that's why I run it without the turbo. Without turbo it's faster actually. Thank god, I have 128 MB RAM on my phone. OM4 is faster than OM5 and Opera Mobile. I wish Opera Mobile gets at least as fast as OM4 with improved image quality and supports sync, flash, IM clients, widgets etc. I dream of a mobile browser that does everything that a desktop browser does.

catt4u2002 # 5. November 2009, 10:11

Originally posted by KYren:

I dream of a mobile browser that does everything that a desktop browser does.

Dream on

Purdi # 5. November 2009, 11:11

Originally posted by myregs:

Yes it is. It's slightly slower than s60 browser but a lot slower than mini.

Wrong. It is faster than the S60 browser. Mini is faster because it compresses more.

Same with Opera 10 Desktop. With Turbo enabled it's even slower than without Turbo.

Only if you are on a very fast network. Turbo is supposed to be used on SLOW networks.

Purdi # 5. November 2009, 11:13

Originally posted by KYren:

OM4 is faster than OM5 and Opera Mobile.

Nope, OM5 is faster. Unless you have a really sucky phone which can't handle OM5.

I wish Opera Mobile gets at least as fast with as OM4 with improved image quality and supports sync, flash, IM clients, widgets etc.

That's just insanity. Opera Mobile will NEVER be as fast as Opera Mini because Opera Mini compresses the data a lot more, and doesn't need to do much because it's all handled by a server. Also, Flash is a PLUGIN, and is not supported by any browser. They all use the plugin.

KYren # 5. November 2009, 11:46

Purdi, really OM4 is an excellent browser for my e71 which isn't a touchsreen phone.
I love reading RSS feeds using OM. I wish I could read them using Opera Mobile as well. I think at least this wish isn't an insanity.
Kath

Zajczyk # 5. November 2009, 12:46

I find it really nice however RAM consumption should be optimized, I even managed to open Facebook on my E61. But there is a small problem with Space key onaE61, if you press space, it is interpreted as an "a" key, you need to press Function key and then Space. Thumbs up, I hope the space bug is fixable.

Purdi # 5. November 2009, 13:39

Originally posted by Zajczyk: