Oliver Reed meets the army.
Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:27:26 PM
When I joined trhe army in 1957, I was in the line to get on the train to Aldershot. So was Oliver Reed. I asked him which platform to get the Aldershot train from. Waterloo is the biggest railway staion in London. He said:
"Follow me, that's where I'm going. National service as well."
When we got to the barracks, we lined up outside the RMAC (medics) in front of the seargent major and we had to give our names, and occupations, we noticed the Sargent Major couln't spell. Ollie went first and said:
Reed has two "E"s and not "EA" and his occupation was playboy".
BLOODY PLAYBOY! What's a playboy?"
"It's a kind of actor, sir."
"You'll be a bloody actor by the tinme I've finished with you. Next!"
"Roy Smith; S . M . I . T . H"
"Being bloody funny lad?
We'll soon knock that out of you."
That was my first meeting with Oliver Reed. I served alongside as his Oppo for two years in the RAMC, the Royal Army Medical Corps.








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Weatherlawyer # Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:51:08 AM
This is from the book:
National Service and Marriage
I was Twenty one, and getting married a week later to my childhood sweetheart, (my father would not sign for me to get married earlier.)
One of the jokes at my wedding was my best man Graham, reading a letter from Her Majesty the Queen, inviting me to two years in the army, free of charge and to report to Aldershot in two weeks time.
But it was no joke.
One week on honeymoon and then Joyce saw me off to Aldershot from Stoke station. Arriving at Euston station I had to cross over to Waterloo to catch the Aldershot train. When I went down to the underground it was like another world, I didn’t have a clue what to do.
There were thousands, of people (to my mind.)
Seeing a ticket man I asked him directions and he said to get a one shilling ticket and follow the yellow line, which I did, ending up on a platform with a sign saying Aldershot (among many others.) A train came in, the doors opened, I got in, and the doors closed, and off we went within seconds.
Sitting there looking at the train map I counted five stations and then mine, but to my surprise it was another station. I panicked and asked the fellow next to me if he could help.
‘Oh you came to the wrong side of the platform’ he said, ‘you should be going the other way’
"Bloody hell! What a to do" I thought.
"Don’t worry" he said, "you can stay on here all day going round till you come to your station it just takes a bit longer this way".
Sure enough, after about twenty minutes the train arrived at Waterloo.
Going up a large moving staircase I arrived at the top to see a large number of entrances with their destinations above. At last I came to gate number eight which said Aldershot.
"Thank god, I thought".
One and a half hours wait. Whilst waiting I noticed a lot of other lads about my age with their cases so I guessed we were all going to the same place; the ‘Army’.
I met up with a smart, straight backed fellow with a cockney accent.
"Are you going for National Service?".
"Yes. Queen Elizabeth Barracks" he said, "Royal Army Medical Corps. By the way, my name’s Ollie. Ollie Reed.".
‘Mine is Roy".
At Aldershot, we both got off, a soldier was shouting:
"Anyone for Queen Elizabeth, jump on this lorry".
"We jumped in with a number of others. About 20 minutes later we arrived at the camp.
"Get in line at that door, and enter when called by the sergeant who will take all your particulars!" another soldier bellowed at us.
Ollie was in front of me as we were going through, then he heard the sergeant keep saying "how do you spell this?"
Ollie turned to me and said:
‘They can’t bleedin’ spell, we’ll have some fun here."
Ollie was next, the sergeant shouted: "Name?"
Ollie spelt it out for him.
The sergeant looked up at him and if looks could kill, Ollie was a dead man.
"Occupation?’"
"Playboy." said Ollie,
"Bloody play boy?’ What’s that?"
"It’s a kind of actor Sarge" said Ollie laughing, but with no sound coming out of his mouth.
"You’ll be a shitting actor by the time I’ve finished with you lad" said the sergeant.
"Next!" the Sergeant shouted.
"The name’s Roy Smith. S.M.I.T.H" I said,
"You being bloody funny lad?" The sergeant screamed
Oliie nearly fell over. I thought that if I stayed with this fellow I was going to get into trouble but when we got into the barracks room his bed was next to mine, "Oh dear!" I thought, "that’s all I need."
Looking back it was the most enjoyable two years of my life. Ollie became my best mate and I’d like to think I was his. Going through training and attending many courses like first aid and with Ollie I attended the intelligence course. Why is beyond belief but later it
became very useful to me.
The two years soon went, getting into trouble and getting out of trouble seem to come natural to Ollie. But a head ache to our commanding officer, Captain Roger Bannister:
"It’s a good job you are a fast runner Smith" he used to say.
Playing football for the regiment and being picked for the army side kept me very fit, although I never once beat the captain, nobody ever did and I often came second winning many trophies for the regiment in cross-country races.
After eight weeks of training we were given a thirty six hour pass. This enabled us to go out of the camp and to go anywhere as long as we were back by Monday morning at 6 am for parade.
I told Ollie that this didn't give me enough time to go home. He told me to come with him to London for a night as we could stay at the Salvation Army Hostel or Nuffield Centre, as there were plenty of places for servicemen.
Dave Alps, who bedded the other side of the billet asked if he could come with us, and before we had chance to arrange things there were five of us.
Come Saturday morning we managed to get a lift in the camp lorry which dropped us off at Fleet railway station -which was the nearest to us at around three miles away.
The next station was Aldershot and Ollie said we'd be better off at Fleet because at Aldershot we would spend all our time saluting bloody officers. After ten minutes the train arrived and there was a rush for a seat.
We walked quickly along the corridors looking into every compartment until we came to two men who were looking into one of the compartments that contained only one man. We brushed them aside and rushed in.
‘Come in boys sit yourselves down I see you are in the medics’ said the little man sitting in the corner by the window.
I looked at this man, he was slim, with a very sharp featured face, long slim nose and ferret like eyes that were looking all over us.
‘How do you like the army?’ he said looking at me. I was getting worried, "I know this man so be careful what you say Roy" I thought.
‘Well, it gets you fit, I’ve never felt so healthy. This is our first pass and we are going to London for the night.’
The man then asked what I was before I went into the army. I told him I was a bricklayer and I had just served my apprenticeship and had had only two weeks on full money.
He then asked me my name:
"Smith, Roy Smith Sir" I said.
"Ah Woy, do you know where that name comes from Woy?"
Then it hit me straightaway.
I knew this man, I had heard him talking many times on the radio and television, he had a problem pronouncing his R’s, it was Field Marshall Montgomery.
"No Sir I don’t" I said.
He told me that in the first world war a lot of American’s helped us, and some had the Christian name Roy, the most famous being Roy Rogers the cowboy, he told me that my father must have liked cowboy films, we all laughed.
He never stopped talking to us all the way to Waterloo. The lads could not understand me calling him Sir all the time. We walked along the platform at Waterloo. I told the lads who this man was. He now had two men with him, one on each side. I told them it was Montgomery and we all came to attention as he passed us. He looked at us with a smile on his face.
He stopped in front of me and said "you are quite an alert fellow Woy, with good alertness and observation you will make a good soldier."
I thanked him and he carried on along the platform to be met by two red capped Sergeants.
I saw him many times but never had the pleasure to speak to him again. He lived in the next village along, Fareham, and he would walk to do some shopping and visit the Post Office but there were always reporters and photographers following him, as were the two men who I had brushed aside in the corridor on the train.
As I have said, he was very talkative and was always asking questions. I have only written about those directed to me, which reminds me of my answer to him about being in the medics.
I was having a problem.
Being a bit macho, I thought being a nurse, running about the ward with a bed pan or on the battlefield carrying a stretcher was not me.
"Well Woy, why did you join the medics?".
I told him that as I was playing football at the time and the club told me to volunteer for the medics, as they had an agreement with them saying that if I played for the army on Wednesdays I would get a weekend pass, enabling me to go home and play for the club.
"Well" said Monty "you know it is very important being a medic, don’t feel out of the action; because the first thing a soldier shouts when wounded is "Medic!".
"And when bullets and bombs are going off all around, it takes a lot of courage to go to him with only a first aid kit. There are more medals given to these soldiers although it is only a small regiment."
I had never thought of it that way but I told him I thought I would still prefer a rifle to a first aid kit. He told me that I would have to volunteer to join another regiment to do that.
He also said he was a socialist and was delighted when they got elected to run the country. I did not pay much attention to this although I was a little surprised as I thought he would have been a Conservative.
It was later that I realised he, and many more in the army had voted against Churchill because he was Conservative and they all agreed with Monty to have a change and all voted Socialist.
After my two year service ended I moved back to Staffordshire, into a council flat and life returned to normal. Only talking on the phone to Ollie reminded me of the army.
One of my duties was to supervise the sergeant’s mess. One day on the menu was brown stew and dumplings. This was the Potteries "Lobby and Barmy Balls" and when asked by the RSM what was on the menu I loudly that.
The RSM looked at me with a stern look until Sergeant Delucca explained about the Potteries food. He was a Potteries man from Hartshill.
"For God’s sake Roy, don’t put spotted Dick on for dessert" Delucca said, laughing.
Ollie, myself, and Mumford and a couple of the lads used to sneak to the local pub (called the Windmill if I remember) and have a couple of pints. Ollie didn’t drink, but came all the same, looking for girls.
One night he did have a pint and the next morning on parade dropped one of his clangers.
In the medics when you are "given the order to number" it was in fours.
Ordinary regiments call their numbers one to however many there are in the line, for example there may be 40 in the line which meant the last man would shout 40. The medics would shout in fours, 1234, 1234, 1234, 5634.
Ollie was not paying attention as he was number one and I was number two, he shouted five I shouted six two, and of course the drill sergeant came looking at me thought it was me.
So he put his nose on my nose with such a stern face I started to laugh, until the RSM came into view, he quickly gave the order to number off and he stayed with me to make sure that it went right this time.
[I have no idea what the last two paragraphs were about. I will have to ask Roy. I was with him on Friday to post this in the Newcastle Under Lyme library computers but they have Microsoft Office which munged this in a Gedit .txt file.]
I’ve already said that Ollie would join in any courses going. One day he came to me with forms to be an officer.
"You must be joking, a commissioned officer?
No way" I said.
"Will you help me to fill in this form he said?"
"Yes I replied and it was then that I realised that Ollie had difficulty in reading and writing.
We would now call it Dyslexia. Ollie was away about a couple of months and was back with three stripes.
"Not good enough".’ he said.
It was about this time we began to drift apart.
I was into sport and Ollie was with fellows who liked acting and was always putting on shows in the NAAFI.
There was only one show I joined in and this was the Black and White Minstrel Show. I had done this at school and like an idiot had told Ollie.
Ollie was brilliant and a new friend named Berry was also very good.
Another time the RSM called me to tell me about another RSM who would be staying at the Mess and everybody, me especially, must see that he gets looked after.
‘He’s here for about four to six weeks and he is boxing for the commonwealth’ said the RSM.
His name was RSM Amin, a six foot African weighing about 26 stone. He was very pleasant, no problems at all.
I found it difficult to have a conversation with him and I always asked him if he wanted to do this and that. I suppose years later, people had wished I had put a cyanide tablet in his morning coffee.
[Regimental Seargent Major Idi Amin one time president of Uganda. There is a little more in the book later. But what a list of celebs to meet one after the other like that. Makes you wonder if anyone would remember today's celebrities if they were met with in similar circumstances.]
Around a couple of years later, Ollie rang me to say he was coming to the Potteries to look around.
He wanted to see Burslem and the other towns, as he was reading Clayhanger, and he was hoping to get a part in it.
He also wanted to visit Wedgwood and Doulton and to get a brown teapot for his Grandparents from a company called Sadlers. I told him I would pick him up at Stoke Station. He arrived on the Wednesday at 10.30 and after his usual greeting he told me he had not passed his driving test.
We went to Burslem, and he bought a figure from their shop in Nile Street and then we went over to Sadlers. I knew Peter Sadler, as I had done some building work there. Peter showed us around, showing us all the beautiful teapots, but Ollie said that his Gran wanted a brown one.
These happened to be the cheapest, but I don’t think this had anything to do with it, as it was what his Gran wanted.
I drove him to the Wedgwood shop, he bought a few items in blue and white china then I drove him through all the six towns, he said he had never seen anything like it, it was like being in another world and kept on about the toilets being outside.
He said: "one thing that would get me the part would be talking like you, like a Quaker, with thee and thou and wut". We had a meal and a couple of pints in the North Stafford Hotel opposite the station then he caught the 6pm train and he made me promise to call on him in London at any time.
[Oliver Reed was quite a famous British actor back in his prime. Unfortunately there was little for him from Hollywood in those days and the British industry was as ever, very badly run.]
Weatherlawyer # Tuesday, November 20, 2012 12:12:23 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Bannister
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Montgomery,_1st_Viscount_Montgomery_of_Alamein
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idi_Amin
Originally posted by anonymous:
Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:
Best I can do you for. Sorry.
When I see him next I will have this stuff sorted out to post directly from him.