Roy Smith

Ragged Trousered Philanthopists

Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:36:02 PM

The first book by a prolitarian in Britian was about a builder like me.

The author was Robert tressel.
He died of tuberculosis before the book was published.

It was a library book when I read it. So it has been in print for decaades.You can find a copy of it here:
http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/gutbook/lookup?num=3608

If you have read it write and tell me what you though of it.

Oliver Reed meets the army.

Comments

Roy Smithraggedarris # Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:41:50 PM

It reminded me of how you got my start in the trade. I was a bricklayer for about 50 years. Only 20 on site as a bricklayer but most of the rest of that time in management.

Ricky Tomlinson told me I was a hairy arsed bricklayer because I was working when the builder's strike of 1970's was on.

He came with a gang of thgs and threatened us.
I thought he was alittle coarse but they were spoiling for a fight and outnumbered us (as is the way of thugs) so we had to stop.

So much for the freedom our parents suffered for.

Roy Smithraggedarris # Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:45:09 PM

A few days later, he ws arrested in Shrewsbury and sent to jail.
I have met Idi Amin, Colonel Gadaffi and several other people like them.

Tomlinson was the worst of the lot.
50 years later I can finally say I have got my own back on the *******.

~ latemate ~Lazeeitus # Wednesday, November 23, 2011 5:53:02 PM

..hello roy . thats very interesting . all you've written here . gives me/us lots to think about and thats good . . well to begin with,i did read that book many years ago . and thought its a great book that perhaps shud be essential reading as part of studies . its very much a part of our history-from the poor workers point of view and it obviously relates to many things,even now ..

Weatherlawyer # Friday, November 25, 2011 2:25:28 AM

Yes it is much more readable and timeless than that Jane Austin, Daniel Steel crap that is all that modern television seems interested in converting to made for TV film.

I've read Roy's book, proofread some of it. It's nothing like that. I told him to put more trade secrets and interaction in his next one.

Tressel didn't do that either but I'm sure it would be an amazing thing if he had so that we could compare then and now. I might try to do something with Tressel's work as it's out of copyright these days.

I'd have to research the old building trade methods. The rest of it, dialogue and all that is all done.

I read a similar style book from he 60's or later about long distance lorry drivers.

I wish I had remembered the name or something. I wonder if I concentrate I can remember a couple of phrases to look it up online. There is just so much male stuff that has never been written.

All that men get to read is war books, miserable hard done by naval recruits and soldiers from the Napoleonic era or cheeze brained cowboy yarns.

No wonder the only books in most libraries are for women. Men never go to them. And no wonder.

Weatherlawyer # Tuesday, February 14, 2012 5:59:23 AM

What you do with these Roy is just clip the link and send it to the forums like this:
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=215333&t=1329199131&page=15#comment11622222

~ latemate ~Lazeeitus # Sunday, February 19, 2012 5:10:38 AM

. . W,when you say its out of copyright these days,the book, what exactly does that imply ? . .

Weatherlawyer # Sunday, February 19, 2012 3:26:04 PM

When you write something, anything, nobody has any rights to coy it without your permission. Within certain limits that is the way things are supposed to be.

You can make a copy of some things if it is for certain reasons, education or research for example.

After so many years, in this country it is 70 years after the death of the author. (I think something similar is true in the USA too.) Copyright laws are much the same all over the world.

You can give someone the right to copy and sell or give away your work. And you can sell someone the right to do so. The same is true for music and computer programmes. That is what all the fuss is all about with the RIAA business in America.

There is a smaller rider with the production of non copyright material. You can't just use someone else's set up. That prevents you using the same format as someone else's copy of the material, newspapers or a borrowed book that was more recently produced than the original work.

You can't just copy something from Shakespeare using the same format as a book published in the last whenever for example. That's so that you can't just set up a print shop and produce your own recent edition using another printers styles.

Of course there wouldn't be any point to that anyway as you can alter the original to suit your own print set up with modern computers in five minutes.