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HDFC Bank Personal Loan - Rates, Negotiation tips

Based on my experiences with HDFC Bank personal loan DSAs. In today's trend (Dec 2009) HDFC bank personal loans can be sourced at 14.5% pa interest rate. The maximum is 16.5%. The processing charges are 2.5%. Prepayment / Preclosure charges are 2 to 5% of the outstanding amount. Loan is provided on a Fixed ROI, Diminishing balance method. So preclosure during the first half of the loan tenure is always considered best.

Personal Loans are there to help our immediate purchase/finance requirements. Going on a trip? building or extending a part of your home? domestic appliance purchase? Personal loans are one of the avenues through which you can get money quickly.

Personal Loan <= Credit Card
The obvious truth is Personal loan is similar to Credit card purchase, except that the rate of interest is less. Normally Personal loans in India are offered at the rate of 11% to 18% per annum. Depending upon the tenure, loan amount and banks the Rate of interest varies.

So do not think Personal loan as easy money or it does not blows a hole in your pocket. Actually it is a lesser evil than credit card loans.

Some basics of Personal Loan
- Personal Loans differ from other loans because it is offered on the basis of your salary income or business income.
- There is no physical security needed. No jewels, No shares, No lands, No houses. It is offered purely based on the review of your salary and your credit worthiness.
- Since personal loans does not require any securities, it is not offered to everyone who applies for such loan. The decision remains at the sole discretion of the DSA and the Bank.
- And important point - Personal Loans carry high rate of interest compared to other type of loans.

So who are these DSA?
DSA or Direct Sales Associates are the private companies who does the sourcing, verification work at the primary level. They call potentials, collect requirements and pass qualifying applicants to the Bank. So DSA's are pretty much low level officials who mostly work on phone calls and Application form collection, money collections etc.

Before you start
Before jumping ahead calling any agents or banks, do some research online. Check websites like apnaloan.com and other sites and find out the maximum and minimum range of interest rates offered by banks. Mostly nationalized banks offer lowest rates, while commercial banks like ICICI, HDFC levies higher interest rates.

Then finalize how much money you would need, and the tenure (loan period) you might require to repay. The fundamental tip is - borrow less money, and pay it as quick as possible. So your loan amount should not exceed your requirements and the tenure should be as short as possible.

How to Start?
Remember, Personal loans are always offered on the trust worthiness of your financial profile. So it is better to start with a banking concern with which you have a long time relation. Starting with your bank is the best way, always. Do not fall for some blind offers or calls from unknown or non-reliable sources.

Call your Phone banking and register for a Personal Loan. Or, if your bank has a website supporting online application, then use that. In the next few day, you will receive a call from the local DSA. They will start by saying "I am so-so, calling from <your> bank". Actually, bank never calls their customers. So the caller is no one but the DSA tele-caller.

Also, parallely apply for loan at some other websites too. Make a note of all registrations and corresponding bank's interest rates in a paper. Within the next few days, you will receive phone calls from all DSA's.

What information they commonly ask?
For a salaried person, the question mostly revolve around
1. Your net salary (take-home)
2. Your employer details, employment duration etc
3. How much money needed, duration of loan etc

What happens then?
Once these information are collected, they run their validation process and give you the results. Mostly they maintain a checklist of companies according to the profile. If your company is in the list, the processing time will get shorter.

Negotiating
Based on the company profile and salary you get, they usually have a "below X / above X" rule. The X is a benchmark salary limit. If your net salary is below this benchmark then a certain set of charges, interest rates apply. If net salary is above this benchmark then another set of charges, interest rates apply.

If your credentials are good , then the agent usually starts with a high interest rate. Most people who are aware of negotiation option start negotiating well and get a good deal. Others or newbies usually fall for the higher interest rate. And DSA agents will try hard to maintain their stance for higher interest rates. Because if they settle for low interest rates, their commission will be reduced. Who will be ready to lose their precious commission? Try to judge the tele-caller and find out if she/he is dominating. Usually their tones are always commanding.

During the first call, provide them only the basic information they need and ask them what will be their best offer to you. Definitely they will not give their best offer, but will give you the high interest rate package. Just note it down along with the name of the caller and say "Okay. Thanks for the information. I've pinged couple of DSA's too. I will choose the one who gives me a better offer." and hang up. Dont even wait to listen what they say. :-)

Immediately, they will call you again and say that, it is a best offer and surely they will process it within next 3 days or even 48 hours! The best reply is - "Well, Thanks for the speedy process offer. I am not in a hurry anyway. Let me go through all offers from DSAs and pick the one that make me happy". The next question will be "Sir. Shall I call you back tomorrow?". Pretend to think for a second and reply "Call me next week" and hang up. No need to be polite.

Once you get enough calls from DSAs and recorded the details, go through and check it against the online websites. Mostly you will find the offers are on the costlier side.

Within 2 or 3 days you will receive calls asking you about the status. Now it is your turn to play. Ask them better discounts. Discount in interest rate is priority no:1. Waiver of processing charges will be a jackpot but it is rare. Tell them that you are an existing customer of the bank, and you have the right to get a discounted package rather than a default retail package.

Tell them that their interest rates are high and you are considering another DSA who offered a better package. Unless they offer a good discount of rate of interest and procesing charges you will pick the other one. When they ask you how much their competitor offers, tell them the lowest offer you found in the internet. The negotiation starts. Tell them that if they give the best offer you will go with them, or else the competitor DSA gets the business. Once you speak like this, the tele-caller will understand he/she is not talking to some common man and you are a tough negotiator. Usually, the next call will be from the manager of the team with reduced interest rates and better packages. Again tell him you are not in a hurry and will take time until their deal makes you happy.

Carry on for a total of 6 or 7 calls max. After that you will definitely get a good offer and pick the best one.

Things to note
- Never show that you are urgently in need of money
- Take your time
- If they dont agree, then cut the call immediately with a "Thanks. Bye".
- Make the calls to DSAs in the second half of the month. Because second half of the month is always busy to complete their target. You get a competitive edge.
- Whenever they say it is not possible - say "yes it is possible. You can do it."
- Call them by their name. Dont continue a call without names.
- Make sure you tell them that you will finalize the deal for the best offer.
- Do not tell abrupt lies. For example, dont say "Another DSA is offering me 10% interest" while the lowest market rate is 13%. THey are in business, and so they too know the market well.
- Marginal lies are okay. "Another DSA is offering me close to 13.5%" while the lowest market rate is 13% is fine.

The free insurance offer
Totally useless option that will benefit the bank in case something happens to you. Typically this insurance is a security implied, to cover the loan amount and not to cover you. For example if the applicant dies, the insurance money will go to the bank, and not to the applicant's family. If the applicant is stupid enough, the DSA will even impose that insurance charges on him. So better dont fall for the insurance gimmick.



bidding adieu - Huawei Smartax MT841 - ADSL2+ Switch/Modem

Huwaei SmarTAX MT 841



One of the good thing about Huawei products is - Robustness, and the bad thing is - it is Chinese. So life expectancy is little short. After 4 years of service (almost 24x7 switched on) my broadband modem Huawei SmarTAX MT841 started going erratic with frequent line drops, resets and hang-ups. I decided to take it to BSNL velachery and today I visited the exchange.

"Time to shelve it" said the BSNL engineer after checking it's status. He then gave me a replacement modem called "DNA 211" which has Wi Fi inbuilt! That was good. That modem is a standard-issue ADSL2+ model with built-in 4 port switch and a Wifi port. Though I am not sure about the WiFi specs, I suspect it is pretty much a standard 802.11 C revision. It is manufactured by ITI of India.

Plugged the modem in, plugged the ethernet cable and rebooted my computer. Now the connection is stable and accessing internet is smooth as usual. :-)

- Rajesh Sundaram

Car Price Guide - Q4 2009 - Indian Car & UV segment

Here is the Price Map Guide of all Major Indian Cars. Compiled for Q4 2009. Includes Cruz and Xenon XT as well.

TUPM-ICS-Q4-2009.pdf



- Rajesh

Change is the only constant!

Don't know who said these words - "Change is the only constant". Actually, change is what keeps the life rolling. It is present everywhere. Starting from changing dresses daily, to changing mobile phones once in a while, changing restaurants once in a while and so on. And there are certain constants which will not change, cannot change and should not change. The most important of them is - Wife. Don't change wife, because you cannot and she wont let you! :-D hahah.. Jokes apart, without a change, life becomes bored.

Now, change is applicable in almost all cases - that includes JOB. Sticking to one job lets you become obsessed with it. Hate it or like it, you wont escape. You won't change. You are not ready to accept the change. Once your mind gets accoustomed and starts feeling comfortable with a job, you are locked.

Sometimes it takes a bold move, to break the comfortness and venture into hunting for a better job or another job just for the sake of change. :-D I hesitated for nearly 4 years.. and today I feel I should change. Will i change? Tough question..

Drivers for Compaq Presario c700 series laptops (c702TU)

Was breaking my head to find out the drivers for my friends laptop which is a Compaq Presario c700 series (c702TU is his model). The HP support website does not give any drivers except for Matrix storage drivers from Intel. This particular model uses Celeron Processor with 2 channel audio (few models with HD audio, some with cheap AC97) and churns out pixels using the onboard GM965 chipset.

So somehow I figured out a manual from HP's website and found out the following hardware config for c700 series.

Chipset : Intel 965 (including GM965 Mobile Chipset) Chipset and Graphics Drivers
Visit Intel website. Goto the Download drivers in Support page. Then Choose Chipsets, Your preferred OS (XP in my case) and click the Chipset Drivers set. No need to choose the Laptop chipset drivers. Intel provides all in one driver Installer which contains drivers for Desktop, Laptop and Server chipsets.
[Download Intel Driver Page]

Network Controller : Realtek 8139 NIC Chipset
c700 series uses the Realtek 8139 Ethernet chip. Visit Realtek's website and download the drivers. [Download Realtek 813X series drivers]

Audio Drivers : Conexant HD Audio - Venice 5045
When installing XP, all HD audio hardware requires Microsoft's UAA drivers needed to be installed prior installing chip specific audio drivers. [Download Microsoft UAA Audio Drivers]

After installing Microsoft UAA drivers, do the following.

Download this Conexant HD audio driver and install. The automatic install program will fail but that is expected. Go to Control Panel > Device Manager. Single right-click on the ‘unknown’ audio device and select “Update Driver”. From the Hardware Update wizard:

Select ‘no, not this time’ when asked to connect to the internet, click next.

Select ‘install from a specific location’ (advanced), click next.

Select ‘Don’t search, I will choose the driver to install’, click next.

In the list of common hardware types, scroll down and select Sound, Video, and Game controllers, click next.

In the resulting dialogue box, click Have Disk.

Browse to the folder where SP36090 was extracted (e.g. C:\SWSetup\SP36090) and select CpV30D5a.inf, click OK

In the next dialogue, select Conexant High Definition Audio-Venice 5045. If you receive a warning that Windows cannot verify compatibility with this drive, select ‘Proceed’ or ‘Ignore’ (or whatever option that allows you to continue installing the driver).

That's it. Driver installed.


PS : Part of these procedures are from Zyxware Website. You can find the WiFi installation procedures in Zyxware Website.

Daffodil - Unisex Saloon and Spa at Velachery

After Ramamoorthy was transfered from Green Trends, velachery to Green Trends Thambaram, I was unable to find a similar good hair stylist in velachery. Sprouts and Naturals are over-crowded and not sure if I could find a good stylist there.

Today, while driving to office, I noticed Daffodil which was just a few buildings away from my home. Daffodil Unisex Spa and Saloon was started fresh and was hardly a month old. I decided to give a try there and opted for a hair cut. The interiors are good and air-cooled. It has separate sections for Women and Men offering full range of Saloon services. My stylist was courteous and asked me the necessary questions about style, the level of cut etc. Then he proceeded slowly and expertly. We had a little chit-chat during the hair-cut. Unlike other parlours where they pressingly cross sell other services, this guy didnt cross-sell. But yes, there was a subtle cross-selling which was within acceptable limits.

It took nearly 20 mins to finish with my hair cut. The charges were Rs.70 for hair cut alone. For hair wash they charge Rs.30 separately. They also offer some sort of 50% discount on Facial packages and Combo Packages till December.

Overall the experience was good. But the catch is - they are new. So it might take some time for them to offer consistent quality and service.

Daffodil Unisex Saloon is located just behind the HP petrol bunk on 100 feet road. Both walk-in and appointment services available. Ph: 044-22593671





Personal Finance : Monthly Savings & Expense forecast Calculator - Spreadsheet

I was working out a simple calculation for my personal finance, trying to figure how much should I save for my annual savings like Insurance, ULIPs, Bonds etc. It then iterated on and on and on, and I even included a wishlist column.

What does this Spreadsheet do?
The spreadsheet attempts to capture your monthly expenses, then capture your savings (captured for Per-Year, but automatically calculates for Per-Month internally) and a Wish List - items that you wish to buy the next year. For example an LCD TV, or Gadget or BlueRay player or even a Home Appliance.


What will it show to me?
Using this spreadsheet, you can find out how much you should save each month for meeting your yearly-savings and to buy Wish List items. This is not a Finance calculator, but a tool to give a ball-park idea to meet the savings need.



Instructions:
The Spreadsheet was created in OpenOffice and exported to Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP formats. I've given both formats here. You can download both and checkout for yourself.

  1. Fill all the pale-yellow colored cells with the amounts. You can add/delete irrelevant heads.
  2. The spreadsheet automatically calculates the Monthly shell for savings (such as Insurance, Bonds etc)
  3. Additionally, if you fill out the Wish-List columns, it will calculate Monthly shell for Wish List too.
  4. On the top you need to enter your monthly salary to find out how much you spend towards expenses, Savings instrucments and optionally for wishlist.
  5. The cash-in-hand is the estimated amount remaining after all expenses are deducted from your salary.


Download
OpenOffice 2.0 Spreadsheet : myForeCast.ods
Microsoft Office 2000/XP : myForeCast.xls

- Rajesh Sundaram

Review - Creative Live! Cam Chat - Web Camera



Creative Live! Cam - Chat is the basic Web Camera from Creative's stable. It has a unique three-log stand that looks cute and exudes a fashion statement for Professionals. The back leg is foldable and the camera is mounted firmly on its place.

Features
- VGA CMOS Sensor
- Can capture Snapshots and Video upto 800x600 JPG and 800x600 at 15fps
- Focus ring
- 2 year warranty

Installation
As the booklet says, install the drivers first and not the web camera. During the driver installation, you will be asked to plug-in the web camera. At that time, plug-in the camera in a free USB slot and the driver will continue installing further. Interestingly, the installation software attempts to hook a startup entry in windows boot so that when you restart the computer the automatic-software-update and program registration will appear. Many firewalls may scream at that hooking attempt. Just allow the hook. No issues anyway. You will be asked to restart the system once the installation is completed.



The drivers and accompanying web cam suite called "Live! Cam Center" software is pretty basic and very easy to use. The Live! Cam software allows you to take snapshots and video in multiple resolutions. It has a handy gallery in the right panel. The default video formats supports are AVI and WMV. The default still image formats supported are JPG and GIF. The camera software supprts two color models. The i420 and RGB color spaces.


Performance
Creative Live! Cam Chat features an automatic tuning feature (software based) which enhances the video according to the light and ambience that surrounds you. Infact you dont even need to adjust any settings like in any other web cams.

The video is perfect and clear. No noise is observed even in low lights. But if the room is overly bright then, bleaching (over exposure) may appear. Overall the quality is fine.

What to expect from this Web Cam?
Though the camera features a VGA sensor, it does not capture video at 640x480, 30fps resolution (only 15fps is possible). So that puts this cute cam in the basic camera category. But through software interpolation the camera can capture video upto 800x600 at 15fps. The camera's sweet spot performance for video is - 320x240 at 30fps. And for Still image is - 640x480.

Worth mentioning is the zero-noise in low-light and good focus. The focus is better than any other webcam in its level, and overall the cam offers better clarity with good color space handling.

Pros
- Zero Noise in Low light
- Good focus
- Auto Tuning works really good
- Good color space and clarity in video
- upto 320x240 video in 30 fps

Cons
- No 30 fps support for 640x480 and 800x600 video.
- No Integrated Microphone.


Conclusion
At Rs.650 on street, Creative's Live! Cam Chat is a value-for-money entry level Web Camera with Good video and image quality.


My life with Maruti Suzuki Alto LXi

I bought my Alto LXi purely based on budget and maintenance factors. Alto is one-step above India's basic car, the Maruti 800. It has got some better comforts than Maruti 800 and carries a tuned-up engine. The top-end 800 costs Rs.2.2Lakhs and a top-end Alto costs Rs.2.75Lakhs. The extra 55k can be justified for a all-new design (though it looks kinda outdated now), decent interiors, Power steering and a lovely Air-con. Logically anyone who has driven a 800 will feel much better inside an Alto.

Why did I chose the Alto?
I chose Alto from a list that carried WagonR, Santro and a Bolero. Looking at long term, the EMI, value, cost of Depreciation, yearly renewals such as Insurance made me chose Alto LXi. Infact fuel economy is one more influencing factor too.

Is Alto a city car?
Combined with a tuned motor of Maruti 800 (delivers 45 bhp) and a good Air-con, Alto gives you all the basic comforts for a city car. It has got enough power for the stop-and-go, city traffic. It will cool up the cabin decently and quickly. It has got enough space to carry 2 people in the rear and a third one can squeeze in, but cannot avoid rubbing shoulders.

My Life with Alto
Hate it or Love it. Alto is one unique car. It has got decent bits of everything to make you determined to buy a better-in-all-aspect car next time. Haha.. it's a joke. But yes, Alto does offer you everything a modern car has. It has basic safety - Seat Belts that makes you crave for Air bags. It has got basic comfort - standard definition seating that makes you long for wider and more ergonomic seats. It has got a decent engine which is derived from an outdated engine. It shows up when you try to over-take and try some sudden pick-ups. It has got a good Air con, which will make you wish for a Climate control. It has got a 800-based vague long-throw gearbox that makes you wish for a slick gearbox. (The classic gear-box problem of 800 and Alto exists. It appears to be a design problem, and the effect is - the first and Reverse gears are tight.. i mean really tight to slot in. Not all the Altos and 800s suffer from this, but generally few notices it.) It has got bit somewhat cramped interiors that makes you wish for a better space.

Inspite of all these can-live-with shortcomings, Alto is fun to drive in the city. Switch on the aircon and slot in the gear, you are set to go. You can cruise thru the bumper-to-bumper traffic effortlessly. On the highways it is a different story. I've scratched other's egos a lot of time. I've zipped past, and chased Lancers, Accents, Innovas, Santros, Esteems and even Skodas , who then got their egos scratched zipped past me at 140 hmph. Had there not been the speed limiter that puts Alto's range within 130 kmph, I would have tried overtaking them again. The car is such a ego-scratcher! :-D hahah...

So what makes Alto the number one selling car in India? It's the decent-bits-of-everything, fuel economy and maintenance. City driving gives you an FE of around 13 to 14 kmpl with / without aircon. Highway driving gives you 17 to 19kmpl with/without aircon. Maintenance wise, it doesnt burn any hole in your pocket. Just make sure you check the timing belt, engine oil, and clean the air filter once in 3 months. With decent boot space for weekend getaways and shopping, and space for a loving family of four, decent for occasional long drives, and a price that no other brand can match - Alto is the choice for many Indians.

Conclusion
I love my Alto and most possibly I am going to keep it as long as possible. Even if I have to buy a new car / UV, Alto will stay in my Erode home. I am not going to sell it.


Landmark Forum - Landmark Education in Chennai

This is the continuation of my previous post related to Landmark Forum - the self-realization program offered by Landmark Education.

After reading several sites and other stuffs, I lost interest in doing Landmark Forum. I don't see a point in sitting for 2 continuous days hearing that I am a "*erk" and someone breaking me away emotionally and psychologically. And finally that someone 'builds' a new me psychologically again. That's a risky deal I think. There are so many ways one can change their views about their self. Improve their self and produce amazing results. There are at least a dozen ways that are better than Landmark's brainwash style approach. Take for instance, Yoga, Dhyana, keeping focused, practising self-improvement techniques, time-management and being good to everyone etc etc.

Two weeks ago, I received a phone call from a chennai co-ordinator who volunteers for Landmark Forum. He asked for the remaining payment and my signed enrollment form for the upcoming session. I told him I got a big schedule for the whole month at work. So I cannot attend the session. But he didn't wanna let me hang my phone. He talked about the 'commitment' i made when I attended the first intro session and wanted to continue my commitment. Hearing this I was like - "what the *uck?? from where do these guys learn to talk like this??" and I firmly told him I will get back to him after a few days.

After a few days I received a call from Krishna who is a manager for LF working from Bangalore. With a nice accent he asked me the details of my referral, when did i attend, how do i feel about that etc etc. Then he jumped to the question that I haven't paid the money and haven't enrolled yet. I told him that I decided not to join Landmark Forum. Hearing that, he immediately switched his tone to more soft and more "counselor" like. He asked me to put aside all my idea, thoughts and invited me to have a "conversation" with him. I switched on the speakerphone and started listening.

The speech started off with a note about the commitment I had when enrolling and giving priority to it. As I told him that I have a business schedule that requires me 24x7 for the whole month, he talked about "commitment" again. He even asked me if something is outright serious.. will I attend the serious matter or attend the work. I told him that I will attend the serious matter first and adjust the work accordingly. "Well.. then missing a Landmark Forum is one such thing. You should replan your schedule accordingly" - he said.

Then I told him that Landmark Forum is not such a serious issue to miss. If not now, I can attend it when the next session comes up. Krishna again seemed to be frustrated, he started pressing the importance of LOVE and commitment I had .. I must have in my life and I cannot go away because the things around me take control of me and bla bla blaaa. After 40 minutes of dragging, finally Krishna Sulugodu of Landmark Education gave up and I hanged.

I informed my wife about the phone conversations and told her that I am not going to attend the Forum anyway. Three days back I received a final call from Krishna enquiring about whether I have re-evaluated my decision. I replied a firm "NO". The Krishna Sulugodu's tone changed to a harsh tone. "Rajesh. Here after when you make commitments, try to stick to that". I said "Thank you. I will" and I hanged up.

I started laughing out. Paying a Rs.2000 advance is not a commitment. When do guys like Krishna will learn talking real-business?

All right. Krishna's aim was pure business. He has to convert two leads into contacts (as we speak in CRM terms) and he miserably failed in that. That makes a total loss of Rs.12000 in the estimated forecast for Landmark Education. Well they will definitely make that money with their talks and making those poor chaps who are attending the seminar in chennai now, to bring more and more people into Landmark Forum.

Here is the email I received from Krishna.



Dear Participant,


Welcome to the Landmark Forum.

This letter is intended to give you the necessary information to facilitate your participation.

The dates and timings of your Landmark Forum are as follows:


Day Date Start Time End Time
Friday 9 Oct, 2009 9.00am Approx 11pm
Saturday 10 Oct, 2009 9.00am Approx 11pm
Sunday 11 Oct, 2009 9.00am Approx 11pm
Tuesday 13 Oct, 2009 7.30pm 10.45pm


Venue for Friday, Saturday & Sunday :
M.S.R MAHAAL
Marriage Hall
9, Raja s.Annamalai Road,
Purasawalkam,
Chennai - 600 084


( Opp. ) - Hotel Dasprakash - Poonamellie High Road ( P.H Road )

Please ensure that you arrive at the venue by 8.15a.m on Friday, 9th October 2009.

In addition, I would recommend that you visit the venue before 9th October to get clear for yourself the direction and parking, the duration and distance.

It is critical that you take care of the following aspects as you are getting ready for your Landmark Forum, if you haven’t already done so.

1. Your leave of absence from your work place and home.

2. Appropriate and accurate planning of all that you need to do and handle in all areas of life as you are in the Landmark Forum.

3. Your health and wellbeing, getting enough sleep and the like.

It is mandatory that you attend all the sessions of the 3 day and one evening of the Landmark Forum.

I HAVE NOT RECEIVED YOUR FORUM INFORMATION FORM YET, PLEASE DOWNLOAD THE FORM, FILL IT UP, SIGN ON EACH PAGE AND SEND IT TO ME IMMEDIATELY.

ALSO YOUR BALANCE PAYMENT, WHICH IS NOT RECEIVED BY US. PLEASE COMPLETE IT IMMEDIATELY


Thanking you for choosing to be our partner in having life work for everyone.

For any support or further information, please call us
Sajna Kumaravel 98402 58039
Neha Shah 90030 88778
Kalyan Kumar 99406 82275

--
Thank you.


Krishna Sulugodu
Landmark Forum Registration Fulfillment Manager
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LANDMARK EDUCATION BREAKTHROUGH TECHNOLOGIES Pvt. Ltd.
III FLOOR, FARAH WINSFORD,
# 133, INFANTRY ROAD,
BANGALORE – 560 001.
PHONE: +91-80-2286 4821-25
+91-80-2286 2020
FAX: +91-80-2286 4827
www.landmarkeducation.com



- Rajesh Sundaram
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