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Microsoft Security Essentials problems and what has to be fixed

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The program is very simple to use since it doesn't offer all that many settings.
However i've noticed quite some problems that need to be addressed.

First and most important is performance hit. After testing, it turned out that MSE is scanning archives on-access. This indeed offers early detection of malware inside archives, but also results in a significant performance hit. I see no reason to scan archives on-access (don't mistake archives for runtime packers!). Malware inside archives is benign until you extract it in one or another way. And once you do that, the usual file scanner will pick it up. So i really hope Microsoft will add option to disable on-access archive scanning (the option in settings is for on-demand btw).

Second issue that's also very important is the update process. Checking for signatures only ever 24 hours is just not enough these days, because 24 hours is a huge time frame for threats today.
If you've just updated and new threat just emerges, Microsoft creates definitions for it and you won't recieve it for next 24 hours. For one whole day! That's just not acceptable.
Every antivirus, be it free or payable should check for new definitions each time internet connection is detected and after that at least every 2 hours. This way it's ensured that antivirus has the newest signatures when it's the most important.

These two issues are the most important and i hope Microsoft will fix them fast. Because on-access archive scanning is really bogging down my netbook. And i even cought it few times to bog down my main system with Core i7 920 and 6GB of RAM. And that's what was worrying me the most.
Issue regarding definition signatures is also important.

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Comments

Anonymous 13. October 2009, 16:32

keigo writes:

keep up the wonderful job. And have fun in ljubljana, maybe we'll catch up one day. :)

Willem Nuijen 24. October 2009, 18:12

Err, there's just an option to disable scanning within archives... (Settings -> Advanced). Are you absolutely sure that is just for on-demand scanning?

RejZoR 24. October 2009, 19:20

I am, because i've tested it.

Anonymous 25. October 2009, 18:52

Anonymous writes:

installed av essentials good by the way,do i have 2 uninstall windows defender keep gettin message sayin defender switched off please switch on but does not respond please help

Willem Nuijen 25. October 2009, 19:00

It replaces Defender, see for more info: http://www.asymmetrics.nl/?q=node/33

Anonymous 25. October 2009, 19:19

Anonymous writes:

does it override defender or do i have 2 do it manualy

Willem Nuijen 25. October 2009, 19:38

As stated in (http://www.asymmetrics.nl/?q=node/33):

More specifically, concerning the above 2 processes, "Msseces.exe is the front-end GUI of MSE(Microsoft Security Essentials). (...) MsMpEng.exe is the back-end of MSE (Microsoft Security Essentials). It is important to remember that this process is actually used by both Windows Defender and MSE. When you install MSE, then Windows Defender is automatically turned off and MSE uses this process."

Anonymous 25. October 2009, 20:04

Anonymous writes:

thanks 4 that as u can tell am a computer beginer

Willem Nuijen 28. October 2009, 00:52

And it gets even worse. Although I did experience it myself already (but I thought it was due to my crazy proxyish solution I currently have), now the German renowned magazine C't confirms it: MSE sometimes refuses to download updates, for up to 7 days, even though new updated definition files are available. Bad stuff, very bad.
Source: http://www.heise.de/security/meldung/Microsofts-Antiviren-Software-verschlaeft-Updates-837599.html (English translation)

Willem Nuijen 10. November 2009, 23:31

Check out here to force daily/hourly/whatever updates for MSE via a command-line tool that comes with it and the Windows Task Scheduler: http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/microsoft-security-essentials-automatic-virus-signature-update/

Willem Nuijen 16. November 2009, 19:12

AddictiveTips.com just released a tool to solve this update problem, especially when one has chosen to disable Windows Update (normally needed to retrieve MSE updates). Grab this MSE Update Utility here.

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