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Even the pros get fed up

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I've been working really hard on layouts using as much CSS as will display properly across browsers, and I've been trying to go for a very clean, polished look. I'm not always successful, so I decided to see how they did their layout at, say... the NY Times (I mean, these people have several fonts named after them fergodssake... so they must know something about layout & design, right?)

OK, so I check them out, and downloaded their two main stylesheets, and lookie what I found at the bottom of http://graphics8.nytimes.com/css/common/global.css: (for those following along at home, scroll to the verry bottom of the page, and check out the webmaster's comments:

/* move this crap to section front if needed, what a mess... - James

ul, ol {
padding-left: 0px;
margin-left: 18px;
_margin-left: 22px;
}

*/

Now, far from criticising, I actually find it refreshing that someone, at this level of their profession, can find it frustrating to deal with the demands of a high-powered client who wants things to be a certain way... regardless of whether it will work with the unyielding demands of the technical environment.

Anyway, you can go to the URL listed above & download the stylesheet for yourself (and you might as well download the HTML file and this stylesheet while you're at it.

Enjoy

"Never trust a newspaper that doesn't have a comics page."

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Comments

Coleen 4. November 2007, 02:51

ul, ol {
padding-left: 0px;
margin-left: 18px;
_margin-left: 22px;
}

Here. Can you help me, please

Robert Hurley 4. November 2007, 03:02

what page?

Coleen 4. November 2007, 03:03

This page. On top. "Even the pros get fed up"

Robert Hurley 4. November 2007, 03:08

no idea. this was written by a web designer at Microsoft.

Coleen 4. November 2007, 03:11

Thanks. Have a nice day!

Robert Hurley 4. November 2007, 03:12

sorry I couldn't help more here. but the distinction is not crucial.

Coleen 4. November 2007, 03:21

Yes. i know. i have already search in google.com.
i have a answer.
margin: 0 0 0 4px; /* margin for all browsers */
_margin-left:6px; /* margin for IE 5+ on win, including IE 6 in standard
mode */
_margin-left:8; /* margin for IE 5+ on win in quirks mode, but not IE 6
when it is in standard mode */

However Thanks

Robert Hurley 4. November 2007, 03:24

cool

Coleen 4. November 2007, 03:30

oh. i have already seen "Occupation: web designer"
my friend website want to have advice about face.
Can you help me.
http://www.smiletravelvietnam.com
Thanks before

Robert Hurley 4. November 2007, 03:45

have him contact me at my web design site, glassangel.com. My email there i roberthurley@glassangel.com

Coleen 4. November 2007, 03:51

Ok. I 'll send him. Thanks. Nice to meet you

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