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Calling for a just war?

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Don't get me wrong, please. I am not in favour of wars - on the contrary.

But sometimes there's a call for a "just" war in the world. Many have described the western "adventures" in Iraq as a just war. I strongly disagree. To me, the war in Iraq is all about defending achieved privileges in the west.

Others have described WW2 as a just war. Maybe so....

That's a long story - I'd rather go straight to the point:

Myanmar. Burma. The situation is horrendous - you know that, I'm sure. People are dying as I write from deceases, thirst and hunger because a government, well, rather a junta can't stand the idea that foreign people bringing life-saving necessities into the country will see and report the misery and maybe even bring "wrong" ideas to the population of Burma just before a scheduled "election".

For that reason tonnes and tonnes of high-energy biscuits and other life-saving stuff is standing idle in airports just outside Burma.

That's obviously absolutely insane. A catastrophe of the present scale should cast all other considerations aside and should allow any help needed to access the country immediately.

Of course. Otherwise I will not hesitate to call the present political situation a genocide.

I have been told that the obvious solution to the problem, namely dropping emergency supplies from aircrafts without permission from the junta, can't be done since it would be an act of war.

This, I think, calls for a just war. I am not in doubt.

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To refuse aid is absolutely unconsciousable, even by that regime's standards. I hope a solution is speedily reached :frown:

By SittingFox, # 10. May 2008, 10:31:52

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I´m afraid the UN has to use force here to make a path for the aid to reach the ppl in need. We´re wasting too much time. ppl are dying by the thousands :irked:

By nopanic, # 10. May 2008, 10:49:11

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I agree. The actions of the junta clearly indicate an absolute disregard for the well-being of the people. A horrendous situation.

By musickna, # 10. May 2008, 13:27:29

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I was watching the news this morning and it was showing pictures of the food waiting to be sent into Myanmar, also picutres of people in need, just horrific!

By cakkleberrylane, # 10. May 2008, 14:01:06

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I agree Allan, the arrogance of this regimes lack of action,lack of ANY feelings for their OWN people :insane: and...."the socalled election" in THIS situation is ABSOLUTELY beyond words :bomb:

By RuneSB, # 10. May 2008, 17:09:59

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I've seen reports that the "government" there has seized all the aid that has been allowed into the country, not allowing it to reach the people who need it.

That, to me, constitutes war crimes of the worst kind.

By Stardancer, # 10. May 2008, 17:10:32

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And I read today that shipments are being held up so the names of the generals who run the junta can be stuck on the boxes to make it seem as if it came from them and not the UN and other world agencies.

People are dying for propaganda. I have rarely felt as much disgust as I feel for these generals, revealing themselves through these and other actions to be the utter scum of humanity.

By musickna, # 10. May 2008, 17:37:20

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Judging from the comments here, the so-called government of Burma must feel quite alienated in this world.

By ricewood, # 10. May 2008, 18:07:45

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I agree, Allan. Unfortunately, and I hate to be "Debbie Downer" on this one, but the U.S. has been in this situation before in the 90s, in Somalia, and that came to a total disaster.

So I seriously doubt the U.S. would do anything. Now if other countries would like to follow your plan, I would certainly applaud them. Just be careful. Things sometimes have a way of turning nasty real quick. And then you're left with...no, I'm not going to say it.



By edwardpiercy, # 10. May 2008, 18:41:49

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Edward - there's no such thing as dealing with things in a simple way, particularly when dealing with politics.

You're right. Things can become really nasty. It's just that I think it's more than enough nasty already.

By ricewood, # 10. May 2008, 19:12:11

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True. And sad.

By edwardpiercy, # 10. May 2008, 19:25:40

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I just received a mail from UNICEF Denmark, which I support with a small amount of money every month.

It says, that UNICEF has 130 people stationed inside Burma - and aid will be sent to Burma as from now with ordinary passenger flights. The UNICEF people will get the stuff at the airport and bring it out in the country as they can best. That's something at least.

If you wish, you can watch a video from today (in Danish) from the distribution central here in Denmark. The lady in the video says, that they will have glucoses, surgery kits, vitamin A and other necessities in Burma very soon.

http://www.unicef.dk/Files/Flash%20Film/Supply%20film%2010%20maj.mpg

By ricewood, # 10. May 2008, 19:52:08

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Thats good to hear. I support UNICEF too.
But I really hope that the UN makes a move in this.

By nopanic, # 10. May 2008, 20:47:45

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Indeed, that would be even better if the whole of UN acted together. One way or another.

By ricewood, # 10. May 2008, 21:57:26

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...yes Allan, they better start talking now. They always have to do that a lot before they make a move :frown:

By nopanic, # 10. May 2008, 22:53:29

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to not say the people in Afrika that suffer from years wtih no food, medicine, water and other necessities just because the local gangs fight for power.
While they're fighting people are dying...

By b_laudanum, # 11. May 2008, 14:52:51

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I wrote out a long response to this, explaining how complicated it was, how devastating it was, how you can't just trample on the rights of the most despicable nations but really it comes down to utilizing the channels we have.

Short of the UN or some other large group of nations deciding to take action for the public good over the objections of Burma's junta, I see little direct help coming to those in need. It is sad.

Yum

By WillYum, # 11. May 2008, 18:49:52

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Truly sad news Allan.

Well upsetting news actually.
Good to hear that some supplies have begun comming through.

By Duplo, # 12. May 2008, 04:03:30

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We live in a crazy world, that is for sure

By misund007, # 12. May 2008, 19:36:27

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You already know my views on War..


It seems, to me, that our attitude (I mean the attitude of whatever administration we voted in) is always based on political diplomacy. There's not a lot I can add to all that's been said before my post, but I want to say that its ironic the USA administration is acting with great speed, offering - so I read - a sum of $250k and moving to station part of its fleet off the shore of Burma. Some will find it disagreeable, even perhaps, 'tasteless' for me to ask why the massive resources of the USA were not initailly (and subsequently) employed speedily to help and to rescue the other dreadful calamity that took place in New Orleans, a state in the USA's own territory. Before any one, maybe, starts tp splutter "it's not the same thing!" let me quickly go on to add that I welcome any and every effort to help give aid and succour and comfort to the stricken families in Burma and to save as many lives as possible. If it were not for the distrust by the Military Regime of Western countries in general, and the the USA in particular, something would have been accomplished in a more efficient and timely way.

Though some might debate my logic, one thing is crystal clear, the Military Junta in Burma is a callous regime, intent on holding on to its power in a ruthless grip that pays little or no attention to the real issues of human rights; nor does it have any intention of allowing foreign charity aid workers to play any active part in Burma during this terrible time or, one can reasonably say, any future time. The USA and the UK moved mighty forces to evince a "regime change" in Iraq and still that War drags on, long after the so called "regime change". The Junta in Burma have held down the populace in a military claw for 60 years. I wonder why the most powerful nation on earth, together with its "runner", did not move, decades ago, to carry out a "regime change" in Burma? My question is of course deliberately naive and intended to provoke comment. I already know the answer to the question.

Yours truly,

Lokutus Prime

By lokutus_prime, # 13. May 2008, 23:35:21

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What can I do but thank you all for the thorough and thoughtful comments.

There are many dilemmas in issues like this - and I fully understand that there's no simple solution. Whatever we do, it's bad in some way or the other.

By ricewood, # 14. May 2008, 12:01:11

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