DigiNotar First Step: Disabling the Root
By Yngve Nysæter Pettersenyngve. Tuesday, September 6, 2011 7:45:29 PM
There is a first time for many things. Sometimes this is positive, but other times it is unfortunate. This time, we're dealing with one of the latter variety.
Today, we have updated the Opera Rootstore and disabled the DigiNotar Root (Note: DigiNotar is not in any way associated with DigiCert, which is another CA).
The reason for this action is due to last week's news about the large scale attack on DigiNotar's CA systems and the subsequent discoveries about what has happened after the attack.
This is the first step in our handling of this incident. We are currently testing further updates that will add the DigiNotar Root to our "Untrusted" repository.
That a CA gets attacked and even tricked into issuing certificates that turn out to be fraudulent is not, by itself, a reason to revoke trust in a Root CA. CAs are high profile targets for criminals given the role CAs have in the online security framework; it is how the CA responds to such events that determine how much we can trust it.
In this case, DigiNotar's response has unfortunately fallen short in many respects, including the following:
For these reasons, we are today discontinuing distribution of DigiNotar's Root.
A couple of points to note:
Please note that this action does not affect the Dutch Government CA "PKI Overheid" Root CA, which is in the process of revoking the subCA certificate they issued to DigiNotar.
In relation to these events, the browsers and the Certificate Authorities in the CABForum are monitoring the situation and are discussing further improvements to how certificates for secure websites work, both in browsers and on the CA side.
Update Sep 8: Second stage deployed.
Today, we have updated the Opera Rootstore and disabled the DigiNotar Root (Note: DigiNotar is not in any way associated with DigiCert, which is another CA).
The reason for this action is due to last week's news about the large scale attack on DigiNotar's CA systems and the subsequent discoveries about what has happened after the attack.
This is the first step in our handling of this incident. We are currently testing further updates that will add the DigiNotar Root to our "Untrusted" repository.
That a CA gets attacked and even tricked into issuing certificates that turn out to be fraudulent is not, by itself, a reason to revoke trust in a Root CA. CAs are high profile targets for criminals given the role CAs have in the online security framework; it is how the CA responds to such events that determine how much we can trust it.
In this case, DigiNotar's response has unfortunately fallen short in many respects, including the following:
- They did not inform the affected websites, the browsers or the CABForum (CA/Browser Forum) about what had happened for more than 5 weeks, and they only did so after one of the certificates turned up being used in a MITM attack against Google websites. This can be compared against the fact that the browsers were informed about the (successful) attack on Comodo, as well as the (unsuccessful) attack on Startcom, within a few days of the events.
- While they did revoke a number of certificates that were fraudulently issued, they did not inform the affected websites, and they did not discover that a certificate for Google's domain had been issued until after Google had learned of the certificate from users being actively attacked with it (a discovery made possible by a recent Chrome security measure implemented for Google's sites) and informed DigiNotar and the browsers about it.
- The reason for the delay in discovering this certificate was that the attackers had tampered with the log information in the certificate issuance system for at least one of the subCAs. It is presently unknown whether the attackers also tampered with the logs for the other subCAs.
- Due to the log problems, it is in fact still unknown how many certificates that were really issued by this system or for what websites! We have seen reports that more than 500 certificates were issued during the attack, with less than 300 being positively identified, according to our information.
For these reasons, we are today discontinuing distribution of DigiNotar's Root.
A couple of points to note:
- No user action is needed to get this update. If your installation does not have the DigiNotar Root installed already, visiting a site with a DigiNotar issued certificate will trigger a "Unknown issuer" dialog; if this happens, click "Reject" on the dialog.
- This first step of our planned revocation does not remove, or untrust, the DigiNotar Root from Opera installations that already have the Root installed. For these installations, sites using DigiNotar certificates will continue to work as before, indicating a secure connection, as will the EV-enabling of the Root until the next weekly download from the repository server (using the menu choice Help->Check for Updates will trigger an immediate update). For advanced users: if your installation has this certificate, and you want to untrust it now, you can do so by following these steps:
- Go to the Root Certificate Management dialog in the Menu->Setting->Preferences->Advanced
Preferences->Advanced->Security->Manage Certificate->Authorities. - Locate the "DigiNotar Root CA" entry and click "View".
- Uncheck the "Allow connections to sites using this certificate".
- Click "OK" on the viewer dialog, the Certificate Manager and the preference dialog.
- The DigiNotar certificate is now untrusted, and visiting sites issued from the Root will cause Opera to refuse to connect to the site, without displaying a certificate warning.
Please note that this action does not affect the Dutch Government CA "PKI Overheid" Root CA, which is in the process of revoking the subCA certificate they issued to DigiNotar.
In relation to these events, the browsers and the Certificate Authorities in the CABForum are monitoring the situation and are discussing further improvements to how certificates for secure websites work, both in browsers and on the CA side.
Update Sep 8: Second stage deployed.








z@h3kZAHEK # Tuesday, September 6, 2011 8:47:38 PM
Sorry there is no here the certf. named ""DigiNotar Root CA" but one certf. is below in Opera 12...
Is the same?
DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA
DigiCert Inc
www.digicert.com
US
DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA
DigiCert Inc
www.digicert.com
US
olli # Tuesday, September 6, 2011 8:52:09 PM
You would only get the cert if you visited a site using it
z@h3kZAHEK # Tuesday, September 6, 2011 8:57:39 PM
Shall we warn our Turkish users about it?
olli # Tuesday, September 6, 2011 9:01:58 PM
z@h3kZAHEK # Tuesday, September 6, 2011 9:15:13 PM
Yngve Nysæter Pettersenyngve # Tuesday, September 6, 2011 9:19:12 PM
This problem only affects the certificate called "DigiNotar Root CA" (and exactly that spelling).
(BTW: if you remove DigiCert you will break lots of Opera autoupdate functionality, including the certificate update mechanism)
Thu Winwikipedian # Tuesday, September 6, 2011 9:32:48 PM
Please run Windows Update as Microsoft flicked the kill switch on DigiNotar and release an update that has revokes the trust of the following DigiNotar root certificates and placed them in the list of untrusted certificates:
Windows users are now prevented from accessing sites with SSL certificates issued by DigiNotar instead of being presented with a certificate warning.
Previously, users going to sites using the DigiNotar cerficate is presented with an error screen with the option to continue as shown:
However, after the application of the update, the option to continue has been removed:
To test this behavior go to the https version of the DigiNotar's website.
All Windows users using automatic updates will apply this update and no reboot is required. However, on request from the Dutch government, Microsoft has delay the rollout of this update to users in the Netherlands and their territories until next Tuesday (Patch Tuesday coincidentally). This will give time for the Dutch websites to swap all their certificates to another, perhaps more trustworthing certificate authority. Therefore, the user would have to manually run Microsoft Update to receive the patch.
See http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/2607712.mspx for more details.
To read more about the fiasco, see my blog posts The end of DigiNotar as we know it and Certificate authorities (CA) goes wildJimtoyotabedzrock # Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:18:56 AM
http://pastebin.com/1AxH30em
http://pastebin.com/85WV10EL
http://pastebin.com/jhz20PqJ
Cutting Spoonhellspork # Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:00:39 AM
Still hoping issues like this could be resolved between Opera's trust model and ESET's advanced security system.
Very happy to hear that Opera has completely revoked DigiNotar.
Yngve Nysæter Pettersenyngve # Thursday, September 8, 2011 4:23:08 AM