Which one is better?
Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:01:50 PM
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This is also an example how difficult photography can be because of high contrast when shooting against light and trying to get either the sky or ground correctly exposed. One just can't get both without extreme tricks. Contrast masking once again was a solution to get some sort of a compromise. But which one is better? Or should one just shoot either the sky and forget the ground or vice versa?



Tom RondelloFrlmnk # Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:21:51 PM
I don't find that possibility very convenient but you're doing tricks like that all the time.
When I was down in the narrow canyon of Hermit Creek I took multiple exposures for that reason but really with the intent of referring to the photo for artwork. (That's even more farfetched right now
Sami Serolaserola # Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:25:53 PM
Originally posted by Frlmnk:
Yes, and that is usually called as HDR technique and is usually done with 3 pictures. But as I try to prove with my example, even mobile phone can have surprisingly extensive dynamic range already, thus giving possibility to produce acceptable picture using contrast masking.
The ultimate question still goes: which one is better?
Tom RondelloFrlmnk # Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:44:01 PM
I'd prefer to be able to set up a blind or even take a whole day for one landscape shot but that is difficult when scrambling between the hot sun and shade on a desert trail, for sure.
I'm juggling too much, sometimes, but, mostly not enough!
Sami Serolaserola # Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:51:12 PM
Originally posted by Frlmnk:
Touché!
So, the story goes:
Is it enough to show just the silhouette of cranes against the sky where one can see the weather front? Or would it be nice to see also what happens on the ground?
Lorenzo CelsiLorenzoCelsi # Thursday, August 18, 2011 1:41:42 PM
Tom RondelloFrlmnk # Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:15:38 PM
As well as one across the bow?
For rents icks.
Sami Serolaserola # Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:07:56 PM
Originally posted by LorenzoCelsi:
Thanks
Originally posted by Frlmnk:
Not possible with cameras I have. That would need some modification:
http://www.naturfotograf.com/UV_IR_rev00.html
Mad Scientist (عادل)qlue # Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:30:44 PM
The reason I ask is because it seems to have a distinctive stigmata similar to what my phone produces. The centre is slightly more red (or magenta?)while the border has a bluish hue.
As to your question, I prefer the one on the right.
Sami Serolaserola # Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:58:05 PM
Originally posted by qlue:
Mobile but not Nokia. I have ZTE Blade. Yes, that stigmata is actually quite annoying.
I've been trying different editing techniques and tonight I think I finally discovered something that works, at least for me:
Mad Scientist (عادل)qlue # Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:24:47 PM
So you manage to eliminate the colour distortion? What technique do you use?
Tom RondelloFrlmnk # Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:31:45 PM
The one on the right shows more of the construction but the one on the left is consistent with your caption, which would be the point of the photo, wouldn't it?
Sami Serolaserola # Friday, August 19, 2011 4:14:29 AM
Originally posted by qlue:
No idea
Originally posted by qlue:
Sorry
1) Duplicate layer and add alpha channel into it for transparency.
2) Select blend tool and set mode for 'add color', gradient for 'from foreground to transparent' and shape for 'circle'.
3) Set foreground color for cyan.
4) Use blend tool to draw line from center to one corner (on duplicate layer). You should get cyan round shape that blends to background.
5) Set opacity of that layer approximately to 10% (almost completely transparent.
Very brutal way but I think is better than do nothing
Originally posted by Frlmnk:
That was not the point but you can crop one third from the bottom of the picture away and there you have what I had in mind
Mad Scientist (عادل)qlue # Friday, August 19, 2011 5:31:05 AM
(P.S: That's using GIMP.)
Sami Serolaserola # Friday, August 19, 2011 6:11:12 AM
Originally posted by qlue:
Your method sounds actually better
Mad Scientist (عادل)qlue # Friday, August 19, 2011 7:23:48 AM
Sami Serolaserola # Friday, August 19, 2011 7:26:40 AM
Mad Scientist (عادل)qlue # Friday, August 19, 2011 8:42:58 AM
Sami Serolaserola # Friday, August 19, 2011 8:50:10 AM
Originally posted by qlue:
It's one right from the pain bucket. I also just figured out what would be the perfect approach to this "selective color balance" issue and I will write a post about it today evening. Much better than painting with cyan is to use blend tool to select an area and then do the color balance for this selected area. Paint always covers but color balance ain't
If you just can't wait then have a peek here how the blend tool can be used: http://www.bartbusschots.ie/blog/?p=774